Roburt Posted August 18, 2016 Posted August 18, 2016 (edited) I know it's been mentioned in the past but this label still confuses me ...... It was based in New Orleans but had a California derived name (seem to recall the owner was originally from SanFran) .... they cut one of their artists up in Memphis (at Stax & Royal Studios utilising Isaac Hayes & Davis Porter as writers / producers), so I'm OK up to now (though still confused) ..... They started up in 1962, lapsed in 63, returned in 65 and then shut up shop for good in 66. On the face of it, they had a straight forward numbering system; 101,102,103.104, etc. BUT they put out 2 different versions of # 105 + before & after returning, put out 2 different versions of # 110 .... there was no # 112 .... BUT there were 2 St Louis related releases that had weird numbers ........ 3221X14 ... and ... 15235(A) .... Anyone know the reason for those 2 'out-of-sequence' numbers AND ALSO ... what the St Louis link was ??? Would guess the Ace / Kent team are the best to provide the answers .... Edited August 18, 2016 by Roburt 1
Roburt Posted August 18, 2016 Author Posted August 18, 2016 Seems one of their NOla artists passed away in 2014 ..... Warren B. "Porgy" Jones Obituary Warren "Porgy" B. Jones, a resident of New Orleans, LA, passed away peacefully after a brief illness on Thursday, August 21, 2014 at the age of 74. He grew up in the French Quarter of New Orleans, and was a student of the legendary music educator Yvonne Busch. By the time he was in high school he was performing with such New Orleans R&B greats as Johnny Adams, Lee Dorsey, Eddie Bo, Tommy Ridgely, and Ernie K-Doe, and was on recordings produced by Cosimo Matassa. After leaving New Orleans for New York, he became a successful session musician and sideman, and appeared on records by Ray Charles, Jerry Butler, Marvin Gaye, Groovesect, Gladys Knight, Curtis Mayfield, Otis Redding, Smokey Robinson, the Temptations, and many others. He performed around the world, and toured with the Red Sanders Big Band, Ray Charles, the Slide Hampton Band, and Art Blakey, among others. As recently as 2013, he had performed at the Jazz Journey event at Dillard University, produced by the New Orleans Jazz & Heritage Foundation.
Kris Holmes Posted August 18, 2016 Posted August 18, 2016 i always thought st louis frisco was a different label?
Roburt Posted August 18, 2016 Author Posted August 18, 2016 Well if they're different labels, one stole the logo off the other & they had both registered their publishing with BMI as Frisco Music ..... The Porgy & Polka Dots 45 with the Brilliants info superimposed ...
Kris Holmes Posted August 19, 2016 Posted August 19, 2016 oh right, confusing, gotta be the same then? although not included on the Ace/Kent comp.
Kris Holmes Posted August 19, 2016 Posted August 19, 2016 good read here https://www.offbeat.com/articles/connie-larocca-and-frisco-records/ 1
Blackcab Posted August 19, 2016 Posted August 19, 2016 How do you know the Brilliant's are from St. Louis?
Roburt Posted August 19, 2016 Author Posted August 19, 2016 (edited) This show was staged in 1966, about a year after their Frisco 45 escaped ... can't think that they were touring (unless they were tagging along with Carla Thomas) ... I believe that apart from the star act, the rest of the bill were locals (Bob Kuban In Men, Herman Grimes + Johnny Kay & the Runaways were certainly locals). The Del-Rays who had a 45 on local label Arch were produced by the MC on this show (Nick Charles) ... Michael McDonald (who sang lead on some Delrays cuts) was from St Louis .... Edited August 19, 2016 by Roburt
Roburt Posted August 19, 2016 Author Posted August 19, 2016 Got final confirmation, from a St Louis music web site, that the Brilliants were a local band ......... No info on them but they're listed here .... https://www.stlmusicyesterdays.com/Bands.htm
Ady Croasdell Posted August 19, 2016 Posted August 19, 2016 8 hours ago, Kris Holmes said: oh right, confusing, gotta be the same then? although not included on the Ace/Kent comp. Say Yeah is but not Riding High. It was an Ace CD from 1998. Has anyone got a sound file for Riding High?
Roburt Posted August 19, 2016 Author Posted August 19, 2016 (edited) Ady, do you know what the link was between the Frisco label & St Louis acts .... .... no doubt a local radio DJ or even Oliver Sain ...... .... if a radio DJ then probably KXOK jock Nick Charles though he had a strong relationship with Stax -- via the Arch label. Edited August 19, 2016 by Roburt
Ljblanken Posted August 22, 2016 Posted August 22, 2016 my favorite Frisco release. i know this doesn't help answer any of your questions (but it can't hurt!)... Wanda Rouzan - long time no see
Ady Croasdell Posted August 22, 2016 Posted August 22, 2016 On 8/19/2016 at 17:38, Roburt said: Ady, do you know what the link was between the Frisco label & St Louis acts .... .... no doubt a local radio DJ or even Oliver Sain ...... .... if a radio DJ then probably KXOK jock Nick Charles though he had a strong relationship with Stax -- via the Arch label. No, there's no clue in the notes for the Frisco Story or Impressed-the CD the Brilliants are one. Soz. I'm sure its a radio DJ link up, maybe a favour swap between DJs
Roburt Posted August 22, 2016 Author Posted August 22, 2016 2 hours ago, ady croasdell said: No, there's no clue in the notes for the Frisco Story or Impressed-the CD the Brilliants are one. Soz. I'm sure its a radio DJ link up, maybe a favour swap between DJs Ady ..... perhaps a favour for playing a few Frisco tracks on the DJ's St Louis radio stn show.
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