Amsterdam Russ Posted July 26, 2016 Posted July 26, 2016 (edited) Over the last 18 months or so, I've been aware of the rise of the word "banger" to describe uptempo soul sounds. In more recent months it seems to have overtaken "stomper" as the defining word for fast tracks. But what exactly is a "banger", and who can lay claim to the introduction of the word into the Northern Soul lexicon? Is a "banger" just another name for a "stomper" or does it embrace broader styles - "funky Northern", or gospel/soul tunes, for example? Can something be a "banger" but not a "stomper" and vice versa? And while people can stomp to "stompers", what do they do to "bangers"? I think we should be told! Edited July 27, 2016 by Russell Gilbert
Len Posted July 26, 2016 Posted July 26, 2016 I've never seen the word used, only a 'banging' night (which means 'fantastic') I hope you're not telling 'porkies' (Ged it?) All the best, Len 1
Popular Post dean jj Posted July 26, 2016 Popular Post Posted July 26, 2016 A banger is either a sausage or a firework silly. 4
Amsterdam Russ Posted July 26, 2016 Author Posted July 26, 2016 12 minutes ago, LEN said: I've never seen the word used, only a 'banging' night (which means 'fantastic') I hope you're not telling 'porkies' (Ged it?) All the best, Len A quick search on Soul Source for the word "banger" shows that it is commonly used by people on here. The screen grab here shows a few examples... https://www.soul-source.co.uksearch/?type=all&q=banger In fact, looking through those results for the earliest use of the word "banger" to describe a tune, I see it's KeithW, who used it extensively in sales posts in 2005. The next independent use of the word is by Sebastian, whose makes it his choice word of description in 2006. There is also an unidentified "guest" - presumably from Stateside - who also uses the word in sales posts. Ezzie Brown is then next to use it on this site - in July 2007. Others start to use the word after, and by 2010/11, it's being used increasingly, but only by a handful of people. Thereafter, it starts to enter the general lexicon and appears to be almost (but not quite, bearing in mind that you, Len, haven't heard of it) in the mainstream. 2
Amsterdam Russ Posted July 26, 2016 Author Posted July 26, 2016 11 minutes ago, Dave Girdwood said: It's a Scottish thing Russ ;) I initially though so, but someone over here - Dutch, and not directly associated with "Northern Soul" - used the word recently to describe a funk/soul tune. Also seen it extensively used by the likes of Greg Belson. Now I see it all over Facebook, and not just through you guys in Scotland. 1
Len Posted July 26, 2016 Posted July 26, 2016 6 minutes ago, Russell Gilbert said: Ezzie Brown is then next to use it on this site - in July 2007. Others start to use the word after, and by 2010/11, it's being used increasingly, but only by a handful of people. Thereafter, it starts to enter the general lexicon and appears to be almost (but not quite, bearing in mind that you, Len, haven't heard of it) in the mainstream. I stand corrected - I don't come on Soul-source much so missed it Len
Popular Post neckender Posted July 26, 2016 Popular Post Posted July 26, 2016 2 hours ago, Russell Gilbert said: Over the last 18 months or so, I've been aware of the rise of the word "banger" to describe uptempo soul sounds. In more recent months it seems to have overtaken "stomper" as the defining word for fast tracks. But what exactly is a "banger", and who can lay claim to the introduction of the word into the Northern Soul lexicon? Is a "banger" just another name for a "stomper" or does it embrace broader styles - "funky Northern", or gospel/soul tunes, for example? Can something be a "banger" but not a "stomper" and vice versa? And while people can stomp to "stompers", what do they do to "bangers"? I think we should be told! I assume you bang to bangers? I think its a term used by hipsters who've infiltrated the Northern scene. 6
Amsterdam Russ Posted July 26, 2016 Author Posted July 26, 2016 2 minutes ago, neckender said: I assume you bang to bangers? I think its a term used by hipsters who've infiltrated the Northern scene. Well, you'd have thought so. But never seen anyone doing that at an event… yet.
Modernsoulsucks Posted July 26, 2016 Posted July 26, 2016 2 minutes ago, neckender said: I assume you bang to bangers? I think its a term used by hipsters who've infiltrated the Northern scene. You'd look good in a beard, Mark. Hi-ho, hi-ho it's off to dj I go. 1
Gold Band Posted July 26, 2016 Posted July 26, 2016 (edited) I thought Banger just meant great, top, terrific etc As in a Banging good sound, but then again it might be just a midlands term not to offend the Scots obviously Kirsty Edited July 26, 2016 by Gold Band 2
Geeselad Posted July 26, 2016 Posted July 26, 2016 27 minutes ago, Gold Band said: I thought Banger just meant great, top, terrific etc As in a Banging good sound, but then again it might be just a midlands term not to offend the Scots obviously Kirsty that's what I mean, its just not very des, not a style descriptive, it just describes a top tune, not a style
Will Posted July 26, 2016 Posted July 26, 2016 It's an Americanism which has creeped in, for a tune/event that's good https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=banger A similar thing has occurred with craft beer (US) and real ale (UK). Real ale is often now called craft beer by people in Britain, even though the two terms don't necessarily both apply to the same product. 1
Peter99 Posted July 26, 2016 Posted July 26, 2016 Stompers are crap., If bangers are stompers then they're crap too. Peter
Lionelonthevinyl Posted July 26, 2016 Posted July 26, 2016 I relate "stompers" to soul music....I relate "bangers" to sausages....kind regards....Rob 1
Md Records Posted July 26, 2016 Posted July 26, 2016 Recently I was looking through someone's sales in this country and asked what a record unknown to me was like - "Exotica" was the description given to me, I'm still none the wiser. Des
Geeselad Posted July 26, 2016 Posted July 26, 2016 3 minutes ago, SOUL INC said: Recently I was looking through someone's sales in this country and asked what a record unknown to me was like - "Exotica" was the description given to me, I'm still none the wiser. Des its a catch all term to describe music that cant be flogged to people who like soul, funk, R&B. much like titty shaker 1
Pauldonnelly Posted July 26, 2016 Posted July 26, 2016 the stuff I like now is called "pedestrian crossover " 1
Amsterdam Russ Posted July 26, 2016 Author Posted July 26, 2016 "Banger" certainly does appear to be widely in use out there. Just seen Dave Thorley post up a tune on Facebook and describe it as a "banger". The tune in question? The C.O.Ds - She's fire. A banger stomper if ever there was one! 1
Peter99 Posted July 26, 2016 Posted July 26, 2016 I thought banger was just a term for a great record - irrespective of style. P
Modernsoulsucks Posted July 26, 2016 Posted July 26, 2016 1 hour ago, SOUL INC said: Recently I was looking through someone's sales in this country and asked what a record unknown to me was like - "Exotica" was the description given to me, I'm still none the wiser. Des Excrementotica ? 1
Amsterdam Russ Posted July 26, 2016 Author Posted July 26, 2016 39 minutes ago, Peter99 said: I thought banger was just a term for a great record - irrespective of style. P Exactly what I'm trying to find out. Never seen a sweet soul tunes described as a banger, so tempo seems to be a factor. It also seems that an unhealthy number of people on here have an obsession with sausages. 1
Len Posted July 26, 2016 Posted July 26, 2016 26 minutes ago, Russell Gilbert said: It also seems that an unhealthy number of people on here have an obsession with sausages. God you may be right I'm sort of having a weeks holiday (working from home first week of School hols) Yesterday AND today I thoroughly enjoyed 'the moment' of eating a sausage sandwiche in the garden, and am already looking forward to tomorrows' 'happy snack'......I hope it doesn't turn in to a problem Len 1
Lionelonthevinyl Posted July 26, 2016 Posted July 26, 2016 22 minutes ago, LEN said: God you may be right I'm sort of having a weeks holiday (working from home first week of School hols) Yesterday AND today I thoroughly enjoyed 'the moment' of eating a sausage sandwiche in the garden, and am already looking forward to tomorrows' 'happy snack'......I hope it doesn't turn in to a problem Len That's a banger Len.....Rob 1
Winsford Soul Posted July 26, 2016 Posted July 26, 2016 Banger. WTF. sausage or old car nothing more ,nothing less. There's enough shit on here calling Northern soul different things without anymore Steve 1
Geobuch335 Posted July 26, 2016 Posted July 26, 2016 Just to be pedantic,generally in scotland we call sausages sausages .the sausages most british people call bangers we call links..... This is due to our invention of square sliced sausages. Folk will travel miles for the best square slice.... Next week What scots deep fry and eat....! A roll on sausage and potatoe scone with an egg is bangin A top uptempo tune is a stomper Geo 3
Winsford Soul Posted July 26, 2016 Posted July 26, 2016 4 minutes ago, geobuch335 said: Just to be pedantic,generally in scotland we call sausages sausages .the sausages most british people call bangers we call links..... This is due to our invention of square sliced sausages. Folk will travel miles for the best square slice.... Next week What scots deep fry and eat....! A roll on sausage and potatoe scone with an egg is bangin A top uptempo tune is a stomper Geo Love square sliced sausage meat. Don't see it much in Manchester. Deep fried mars bars by any chance ? Square sausage meat on potato cakes. Yummy Steve
Peter99 Posted July 26, 2016 Posted July 26, 2016 49 minutes ago, Winsford Soul said: Banger. WTF. sausage or old car nothing more ,nothing less. There's enough shit on here calling Northern soul different things without anymore Steve Give me a spam fritter, (round not square), , mash and baked beans. Make that three spam fritters, mash and baked beans and I'll keep quiet. I like spam fritter's i do.. You can buy them in Morrisons now but I haven't had one since school - I may have to change that soon. Spam fritter anyone........... 1
Amsterdam Russ Posted July 26, 2016 Author Posted July 26, 2016 Just spotted another well known record dealer applying the term "banger" to an uptempo track - this time to The Traditions, Twinkle little star... Tempo seems to be everything...
Winsford Soul Posted July 26, 2016 Posted July 26, 2016 1 minute ago, Peter99 said: Give me a spam fritter, (round not square), , mash and baked beans. Make that three spam fritters, mash and baked beans and I'll keep quiet. I like spam fritter's i do.. You can buy them in Morrisons now but I haven't had one since school - I may have to change that soon. Spam fritter anyone........... Peter. Good evening spam fritters come as standard when you order a breakfast over the big hill on the dark side Steve
Peter99 Posted July 26, 2016 Posted July 26, 2016 6 minutes ago, Winsford Soul said: Peter. Good evening spam fritters come as standard when you order a breakfast over the big hill on the dark side Steve Ay up my mate. Nice, very nice. Hope all is well mate. I remember, with great fondness, a most superior steak and kidney pudding when roughing it a bit in Stockport. Rather random I know, but so was (trying) to sleep in a burnt out motor vehicle. Oh how we lived and laughed. Totally off topic. 2
Guest Soulskate70 Posted July 26, 2016 Posted July 26, 2016 The word "banger" has been used to describe dance and hip hip tunes (not soul) for as long as I can remember.... I remember DJ's back in the day shouting out "this one is an absolute banger" and the playing a very good, heavy dance or rap track. I guess the term may have crossed over and now just means a "top tune"......
Chalky Posted July 26, 2016 Posted July 26, 2016 who said a sweet soul record can't be a banger.....this one has all the ingredients 3
Amsterdam Russ Posted July 26, 2016 Author Posted July 26, 2016 Depends on your definition of a banger. Which is...?
Amsterdam Russ Posted July 26, 2016 Author Posted July 26, 2016 33 minutes ago, Soulskate70 said: The word "banger" has been used to describe dance and hip hip tunes (not soul) for as long as I can remember.... I remember DJ's back in the day shouting out "this one is an absolute banger" and the playing a very good, heavy dance or rap track. I guess the term may have crossed over and now just means a "top tune"...... Back when would you say?
Codfromderby Posted July 26, 2016 Posted July 26, 2016 i thought stompers were the bang bang beat tunes like the champion or larry santos, the tunes where the thump thump of the dancers feet echoed everywhere , the flasher was a great one, imho
Chalky Posted July 27, 2016 Posted July 27, 2016 9 hours ago, Russell Gilbert said: Depends on your definition of a banger. Which is...? My definition? Well the scan was obviously aimed at those with a sense of humour, Pork as in pork sausage As for the term, I've only ever seen in mentioned on line, never heard it in a venue by a Dj or any dealer and personally I couldn't care less.
Pga1 Posted July 27, 2016 Posted July 27, 2016 Hiya, too many bangers will be followed by a funk bomb, cheers
Amsterdam Russ Posted July 27, 2016 Author Posted July 27, 2016 21 hours ago, Gold Band said: I thought Banger just meant great, top, terrific etc As in a Banging good sound, but then again it might be just a midlands term not to offend the Scots obviously Kirsty 21 hours ago, Will said: It's an Americanism which has creeped in, for a tune/event that's good https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=banger A similar thing has occurred with craft beer (US) and real ale (UK). Real ale is often now called craft beer by people in Britain, even though the two terms don't necessarily both apply to the same product. 16 hours ago, Peter99 said: I thought banger was just a term for a great record - irrespective of style. P 11 hours ago, Soulskate70 said: The word "banger" has been used to describe dance and hip hip tunes (not soul) for as long as I can remember.... I remember DJ's back in the day shouting out "this one is an absolute banger" and the playing a very good, heavy dance or rap track. I guess the term may have crossed over and now just means a "top tune"...... So, four useful points of view on what a "banger" might be. Thanks for those. The consensus of opinion (from those not obsessed by sausages) is that a "banger" is an adjective used to describe a "top tune" and can mean great/good/fantastic and any other superlative you care to think of. There seems to be no association with a specific musical style or genre. An upbeat tempo appears to be a factor in whether a tune can be a "banger" or not. To my mind "banger" appears to be replacing "stomper" in certain circles, possibly by elements of those who have moved beyond the frequently strict signature tempos of "traditional" Northern Soul tracks and have embraced the broader spheres of funkier tempos and crossover grooves that have expanded the nature of the scene over the last ten years or so. Like it, dislike it, or couldn't care less, I reckon the word "banger" is going to become even more widely used in the future than it is already.
Philly Posted July 27, 2016 Posted July 27, 2016 Jeez ..... you guys sure like to dissect things It seems to be the new term used if a tune has a banging reaction .... I think But for me this comes to mind .... 3
Amsterdam Russ Posted July 27, 2016 Author Posted July 27, 2016 30 minutes ago, Philly said: Jeez ..... you guys sure like to dissect things It seems to be the new term used if a tune has a banging reaction .... I think But for me this comes to mind .... A tune that has an "explosive reaction" on the dance floor is what I was thinking, so you're pretty spot on.
Twoshoes Posted July 27, 2016 Posted July 27, 2016 Reading this thread I've come the conclusion it's possible to be in Bangor at a banging Bonfire party eating a banger while listening to a banger chatting up a banger as someone sets off a banger, I've now got a banging headache or is that just a northern expression 2
KevH Posted July 27, 2016 Posted July 27, 2016 Two exotica's or tittyshakers, played one after the other,could well also be bangers.
Pga1 Posted July 27, 2016 Posted July 27, 2016 Obviously you would get to Bangor in an old banger, cheers 1
Stretfordender Posted July 27, 2016 Posted July 27, 2016 1 hour ago, Twoshoes said: Reading this thread I've come the conclusion it's possible to be in Bangor at a banging Bonfire party eating a banger while listening to a banger chatting up a banger as someone sets off a banger, I've now got a banging headache or is that just a northern expression Banging on again Bill, see you int doghouse Friday Bangers - it's all subjective 1
Alan Walls Posted July 27, 2016 Posted July 27, 2016 Young un's of all tribes and none these days often refer to a sound they like as a banger, regardless of genre or tempo. For whatever reason it seems to have crept into Northern lexicon as a replacement for stomper, which by general consensus was used to describe tracks that were either fast or otherwise ooomph-laden (a certified madman roaring out gutbucket vocals - Jimmy Robbins, for instance; loud, blaring horns; badass lyrics...) Personally, I define a banger as a record that is both fast and ooomph-laden. Then there's Aggro Soul, which is pretty much my defination of a banger... 1
Woodbutcher Posted July 27, 2016 Posted July 27, 2016 Or is that the sound of feet stomping to the beat on the dancefloor is being replaced by the sound of walking sticks banging along to the beat in the seated areas , ain't none of us getting any younger after all ... 3
Guest Byrney Posted July 27, 2016 Posted July 27, 2016 If a record makes you want to.throw plastic chairs at coppers - then it's safe to consider such a record as 'a banger'.
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