Rudzy Posted October 11, 2006 Share Posted October 11, 2006 Anybody tell me anything about this one please. the label states Audio Devices Inc, Glenbrook, CT. USA. This i bought of a Collector from Liverpool in the 80's and he swore it was deffo the real McCoy. certainly sounds nice... Anybody? Thanks Rudzy Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Eddie Hubbard Posted October 11, 2006 Share Posted October 11, 2006 Hello Rudzy , the writing on the label looks exactly like Richard Searling's , wonder if it's an acetate that he had cut before selling the original to that guy from Weymouth for [ at the time ] mega bucks ? Just a thought , Best Wishes ,Eddie Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Rudzy Posted October 11, 2006 Author Share Posted October 11, 2006 Hello Rudzy , the writing on the label looks exactly like Richard Searling's , wonder if it's an acetate that he had cut before selling the original to that guy from Weymouth for [ at the time ] mega bucks ? Just a thought , Best Wishes ,Eddie Nice one Eddie, good to hear from you, if richards on here maybe he can confirm. keep in touch buddy rudzy Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest woolie mark Posted October 11, 2006 Share Posted October 11, 2006 Anybody tell me anything about this one please. the label states Audio Devices Inc, Glenbrook, CT. USA. This i bought of a Collector from Liverpool in the 80's and he swore it was deffo the real McCoy. certainly sounds nice... Anybody? Thanks Rudzy could be a US blank cut in the uk - is it one sided? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Rob Wigley Posted October 11, 2006 Share Posted October 11, 2006 Hello Rudzy , the writing on the label looks exactly like Richard Searling's , wonder if it's an acetate that he had cut before selling the original to that guy from Weymouth for [ at the time ] mega bucks ? Just a thought , Best Wishes ,Eddie BRIAN DONKIN from Poole, I think Eddie was it £600 ???? cica 1979 thiink i was on £60 a week !!! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Eddie Hubbard Posted October 11, 2006 Share Posted October 11, 2006 BRIAN DONKIN from Poole, I think Eddie was it £600 ???? cica 1979 thiink i was on £60 a week !!! Hello Rob , nearly right , think it was Neil Donkin , I was on about £45 a week at the time !! Best Wishes ,Eddie Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ady Potts Posted October 11, 2006 Share Posted October 11, 2006 Hello Rudzy , the writing on the label looks exactly like Richard Searling's , wonder if it's an acetate that he had cut before selling the original to that guy from Weymouth for [ at the time ] mega bucks ? Just a thought , Best Wishes ,Eddie Hi Eddie, Funny you should say about this. I was just looking at the scan, it looks like the hand that has written the info on this one, is similar to an Audiodisc acetate of True Image - I'm not over you yet, that I had a few years ago. Think it was an 8" acetate? Regards, Ady. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted October 11, 2006 Share Posted October 11, 2006 That's definitely Richard's writing and it's about as authentic as my male vocal of Thats No Way To Treat A Girl Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Rudzy Posted October 11, 2006 Author Share Posted October 11, 2006 could be a US blank cut in the uk - is it one sided? mark, theres something on the other side, but i ain't got a clue what it is some pop record... That's definitely Richard's writing and it's about as authentic as my male vocal of Thats No Way To Treat A Girl so you think its richards old copy aswell Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted October 11, 2006 Share Posted October 11, 2006 mark, theres something on the other side, but i ain't got a clue what it is some pop record... so you think its richards old copy aswell I ended up with his copy of Flame N King and the writing on the sleeve is identical mate, honestly Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Rudzy Posted October 11, 2006 Author Share Posted October 11, 2006 I ended up with his copy of Flame N King and the writing on the sleeve is identical mate, honestly i wonder why he had it cut in the states? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted October 11, 2006 Share Posted October 11, 2006 i wonder why he had it cut in the states? Nothing to do with the States Paul, I bought an emi of Jumping At The Go Go back in late 75 and it had a US audiodisc label on it - they used to be everywhere. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ady Potts Posted October 11, 2006 Share Posted October 11, 2006 i wonder why he had it cut in the states? Hi Rudzy, He would have had them cut over here, but used old blanks from the States. In the case of yours, I would guess he found an acetate that had been cut on one side only, with a pop tune from what you've said, then had the Consruction cut on the blank side. In fact this rings true with the one I had, as on one side they had attempted to cut the True Image track, but it comes to an abrupt stop half way through. This would be because the cutting needle broke, probably caused by the Shellac having hardened with age, most probably because the blank was a few years old. So they had to flip it & re cut it on the other side. Ady. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Soulie78 Posted October 11, 2006 Share Posted October 11, 2006 (edited) I ended up with his copy of Flame N King and the writing on the sleeve is identical mate, honestly Wow Mr. Smith! You've got a very well trained brain. I bought the 45 and the sleeve from you about 3 or 4 years ago and you can still remember. Yes the writing some kinda looks the same. cheers, Martin Edited October 11, 2006 by soulie78 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted October 11, 2006 Share Posted October 11, 2006 Wow Mr. Smith! You've got a very well trained brain. I bought the 45 and the sleeve from you about 3 or 4 years ago and you can still remember. Yes the writing smoe kinda looks the same. cheers, Martin Yeah and it was probably £15 so you owe me £150 at least Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Soulie78 Posted October 11, 2006 Share Posted October 11, 2006 Yeah and it was probably £15 so you owe me £150 at least No paid 20 GBP. Two months later it was 150 GBP, sometimes the luck is on my side but very seldomly,,, Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Rudzy Posted October 11, 2006 Author Share Posted October 11, 2006 Hi Rudzy, He would have had them cut over here, but used old blanks from the States. In the case of yours, I would guess he found an acetate that had been cut on one side only, with a pop tune from what you've said, then had the Consruction cut on the blank side. In fact this rings true with the one I had, as on one side they had attempted to cut the True Image track, but it comes to an abrupt stop half way through. This would be because the cutting needle broke, probably caused by the Shellac having hardened with age, most probably because the blank was a few years old. So they had to flip it & re cut it on the other side. Ady. Thanks for the input Ady, It does kinda look good on US acetates rather than the UK emi discs, during the 70's i was cutting emi's every week at Dereks Kettering Base. recently i remember Kev Draper mentioning that he preferred to have his emi's done in New York for that extra buzz. Pete Lawson was fond of cutting emi's aswell... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Paul Posted October 11, 2006 Share Posted October 11, 2006 The handwriting analysis is very helpful but we really need more evidence to wrap this case up. Get some good fingerprints or DNA, then we can put this guy away for a long time. Agent Mooney FBI Headquarters Washington DC Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
arnie j Posted October 11, 2006 Share Posted October 11, 2006 The handwriting analysis is very helpful but we really need more evidence to wrap this case up. Get some good fingerprints or DNA, then we can put this guy away for a long time. Agent Mooney FBI Headquarters Washington DC very good mate, made me laugh Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Eddie Hubbard Posted October 12, 2006 Share Posted October 12, 2006 mark, theres something on the other side, but i ain't got a clue what it is some pop record... Prehaps he had the original B side put on the other side , does " My heart would sing " ring any bells ? Best ,Eddie Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Rudzy Posted October 12, 2006 Author Share Posted October 12, 2006 From what i can make out its called "Stay" - dont think its the same people as on the a side tho Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Godzilla Posted October 12, 2006 Share Posted October 12, 2006 Have you heard 'My Heart would sing"? It's a bizarre little ditty - starts off like a fairly twee pop song then goes kind of funky garage. It's miles less commercial than Hey Little Way Out Girl, and as it's the official 'A' side it's no wonder it didn't sell on release. Unmistakeably the same band though. White or not I really like the lead voice and the girly back-up is sweet. Godz Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dave Thorley Posted October 12, 2006 Share Posted October 12, 2006 From what i can make out its called "Stay" - dont think its the same people as on the a side tho Hi Mate It is Richards old copy, remember him getting cut when he sold it. He sold a bunch of stuff to him and got most of them cut onto dubs before he sent them out. Audio disc blanks were very common over here in the 70's. Many of the cutters used them as they were much cheaper than UK blanks even with shipping. Also it was very common to keep down cost and use discs that already had a pop record on the other side. Ian Clark used to use a cutter in London that picked up old disc round the markets that only had one side used and cut onto these. I have a few he got done for me way back then with pop and reggae flips. Dave Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Rudzy Posted October 13, 2006 Author Share Posted October 13, 2006 Hi Mate It is Richards old copy, remember him getting cut when he sold it. He sold a bunch of stuff to him and got most of them cut onto dubs before he sent them out. Audio disc blanks were very common over here in the 70's. Many of the cutters used them as they were much cheaper than UK blanks even with shipping. Also it was very common to keep down cost and use discs that already had a pop record on the other side. Ian Clark used to use a cutter in London that picked up old disc round the markets that only had one side used and cut onto these. I have a few he got done for me way back then with pop and reggae flips. Dave Thanks for that Dave - Much appreciated. There's nothing quite like the aroma of a Freshly cut acetate, the forerunner to Glu sniffing(if you know what i mean) Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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