Rolyak Or Rolyat

[Zanetti]

Hi,

Does anyone know the difference between both productions? I recognized that there are two dif record companies for O.C. Tolbert Hard Times  /w You gotta hold on me

Is there a boot? Or a just a mispelling lbl? Which is the rarer one?

thx in adv 

Zanetti

[Dazz]

Rolyak is the first issue and I believe rarer than the Rolyat issue by a ratio of 1:3

don't think it has been booted, perhaps just re-issued with the location move.

[Greg Belson]

Hey.....the two 45's feature different versions of 'Hard times'. The misspelt Rolyak label is the first release and the drums are more relaxed. The Rolyat take features more metronomic, crisper drums that snap way harder.....that's my favored release out of the two.

No boot, just Jack Taylor addressing the label name and tightening up the groove....personally, it took me longer to get the Rolyat 45, but don't take that to gauge rarity.

Check them both out here on this DCGS from 2012. Spool to 41 mins 15 secs for the Rolyat release, and 54 mins 11 secs to hear the Rolyak version.

 

 

Edited May 23, 2016 by Greg Belson

[Ady Croasdell]

You might like to try the Kent CD remix from Dave Hamilton's multi-track in stereo and available as a download too.

[Robbk]

The company was in New York.  But O.C. Tolbert was a Detroit artist, and arranger, Joe Hunter, was based in Detroit.  So, were these 2 cuts recorded in Detroit, although paid for by A financier in New York?

[Tricky]

Sister New York label to Rojac and Tayster.Streetcar Music and Jack Taylor (Rolyat)

Recorded in Detroit by Dave Hamilton.

Jack Taylor had already released Hamiltons tracks by Chico and Buddy on Tayster.

That was shared between Taylors Streetcar and Hamiltons Demoristic music.

 

 

[KevH]

Always assumed Rolyak was the misspell,until noticed the address difference. Rolyat is Taylor in reverse. Nice tune,had it on Rolyak.

Edited May 24, 2016 by KevH

[Zanetti]

Thankx guys For bringing into focus 

17 hours ago, Greg Belson said:

The Rolyat take features more metronomic, crisper drums that snap way harder.....

Cool ... thx Greg ... never heard the dif take ... sounds really interesting

[Ady Croasdell]

7 hours ago, RobbK said:

The company was in New York.  But O.C. Tolbert was a Detroit artist, and arranger, Joe Hunter, was based in Detroit.  So, were these 2 cuts recorded in Detroit, although paid for by A financier in New York?

Jack Taylor worked out of Detroit as well as New York. With Dave Hamilton in particular; he issued one of Dave's Chico & Buddy 45s on Tayster. Sorry Tricky, i hadn't spotted your response.

Edited May 24, 2016 by ady croasdell