As I haven't got all the variations of these 45s in stock at the moment can any of you guys tell me which ones are definately different mixes. and how are they different and which ones are the most desirable. FREE price guide Ed. 4 for the best information

LASHAWN COLLINS

WHAT YOU GONNA DO NOW / GIRL CHOOSES THE BOY SINCERE 1003 green label

WHAT YOU GONNA DO NOW / GIRL CHOOSES THE BOY SINCERE 1003 light blue label

WHAT YOU GONNA DO NOW / GIRL CHOOSES THE BOY SINCERE 1003 red label

WHAT YOU GONNA DO NOW / A BOY CHOSES A GIRL SINCERE 1003 yellow label

Also need the same info on:

SYL JOHNSON

DO YOU KNOW WHAT LOVE IS / THE LOVE I FOUND IN YOU SPECIAL AGENT 200 DJ

DO YOU KNOW WHAT LOVE IS / THE LOVE I FOUND IN YOU SPECIAL AGENT 200 red label

DO YOU KNOW WHAT LOVE IS / THINGS AIN'T RIGHT SPECIAL AGENT 201 yellow label

thanks

john.

  john manship said:

As I haven't got all the variations of these 45s in stock at the moment can any of you guys tell me which ones are definately different mixes. and how are they different and which ones are the most desirable. FREE price guide Ed. 4 for the best information

LASHAWN COLLINS

WHAT YOU GONNA DO NOW / GIRL CHOOSES THE BOY SINCERE 1003 green label

WHAT YOU GONNA DO NOW / GIRL CHOOSES THE BOY SINCERE 1003 light blue label

WHAT YOU GONNA DO NOW / GIRL CHOOSES THE BOY SINCERE 1003 red label

WHAT YOU GONNA DO NOW / A BOY CHOSES A GIRL SINCERE 1003 yellow label

Also need the same info on:

SYL JOHNSON

DO YOU KNOW WHAT LOVE IS / THE LOVE I FOUND IN YOU SPECIAL AGENT 200 DJ

DO YOU KNOW WHAT LOVE IS / THE LOVE I FOUND IN YOU SPECIAL AGENT 200 red label

DO YOU KNOW WHAT LOVE IS / THINGS AIN'T RIGHT SPECIAL AGENT 201 yellow label

thanks

john.

John,

good to hook up with you on here mate,hows tricks.

strange request- what are you planning on a house remix 12".

i'll go and check my syl johnsons for you...

SYL JOHNSON

DO YOU KNOW WHAT LOVE IS / THE LOVE I FOUND IN YOU SPECIAL AGENT 200 DJ

DO YOU KNOW WHAT LOVE IS / THE LOVE I FOUND IN YOU SPECIAL AGENT 200 red label

DO YOU KNOW WHAT LOVE IS / THINGS AIN'T RIGHT SPECIAL AGENT 201 yellow label

thanks

john.

Syl Johnson..thought red label and demo's( 200) were the same mix,and yellow (201) was a different mix.

  Stereotype said:

SYL JOHNSON

DO YOU KNOW WHAT LOVE IS / THE LOVE I FOUND IN YOU SPECIAL AGENT 200 DJ

DO YOU KNOW WHAT LOVE IS / THE LOVE I FOUND IN YOU SPECIAL AGENT 200 red label

DO YOU KNOW WHAT LOVE IS / THINGS AIN'T RIGHT SPECIAL AGENT 201 yellow label

thanks

john.

The Red one is the Northern Version

The Yellow one is inferior

not sure on the Demo, but have been led to believe its the yellow version.

Hope this helps

the mix with the intro is on both red and yellow Special Agent 200 with flip The Love I Found In You.

yellow Special Agent 201 with different flip, Things Ain't Right, off top of my head this is one without intro, maybe someone else will verify as well. imo probaby the rarest?

white demos without the intro (drum and piano) probably the rarest and white demos with the intro (horns) do exist as well.

Edited October 7, 200618 yr by chalky

I haven't really got a jar of glue John... but i'm sure i would have remembered hearing a different version of Lashawn Collins... probably just not heard it yet eh.

Here's my yellow label copy anyway... maybe fellow soul sourcers will post the other colours up and that way we can all compare them.. i think it's dead interesting

  chalky said:

the mix with the intro is on both red and yellow Special Agent 200 with flip The Love I Found In You.

yellow Special Agent 201 with different flip, Things Ain't Right, off top of my head this is one without intro, maybe someone else will verify as well. imo probaby the rarest?

white demos without the intro (drum and piano) probably the rarest and white demos with the intro (horns) do exist as well.

The red Special Agent copy has the best and longest intro. The yellow copy MAY be rarer, but not so SPECIAL. Wish I had not sold my copy four of five years ago! :fool:

Martin

Ive never sen a yellow issue with the drum and piano intro??

who has one..anyone..??

white demos have the same intro as I have one and it doesnt have horns

as chalky suggests

and may mate has the red issue and the intros they are the same

so are you saying there are 3 different intros on the demo too??

demo without drums and piano

demo with horns

and my demo which is the same as the red issue with drums and piano but no horns??????????????????????

3 diffferent issues albeit on 2 colours

and 3 diff demo takes..

now im confused

WTF is that all aboot

stranger that fiction

the gasher

  chalky said:

the mix with the intro is on both red and yellow Special Agent 200 with flip The Love I Found In You.

yellow Special Agent 201 with different flip, Things Ain't Right, off top of my head this is one without intro, maybe someone else will verify as well. imo probaby the rarest?

white demos without the intro (drum and piano) probably the rarest and white demos with the intro (horns) do exist as well.

My light blue copy of LaShawn Collins plays exactly the same version as joans yellow copy.

best, bri.

Hello John

Re Syl Johnson:

My red No 200 has the full intro and includes horns etc and has an extra drum beat throughout the record, which is unlike the yellow one. Played it once at a mates birthday do and Rod Shard hadn't heard this version before with the extra beat going through. If this is different to other red ones let me know and I will post a clip.

Someone once told me the red was the rarest of the two issues.

Hope this helps

Dunc

why not someone just post all the diff versions so

we can hear them please..as im confused aboot

horns and extra drumbeats throuought.??

post up them clips PLEASE I need to decide whats what

John,

Had all the Lashawans at one time or another and i cant tell them apart mate. Always kept with my blue one i bought off you at Cleethorpes a few years ago.

Actually i googled lashawn Collins a couple of years ago, got an old photo from the 60s/70s listing all the people in the photo. One was Lashawn, i emailed the person posting the photo trying to get info but got no joy....lets face it as the old football chant goes....there really has to be "Only one lashawn Collins....One lashawn Collinnnnnssssss!"

Chris

Chris

OK Gasher

Here's the red one taken from the vinyl 2 mins ago. Someone please post the yeller one then perhaps we can all vote for the better version.

First played at The Pendulum club in Manchester (Before Wigan and Stafford) as verified by Les Hare!!!

Edited October 7, 200618 yr by dunc

Problem with recording, will try again

one last try. Added:::: I can't hear the clips so go to the SOUNDS section above and there is a clip there. Dunc
 

Edited September 7, 201311 yr by mike

  john manship said:

As I haven't got all the variations of these 45s in stock at the moment can any of you guys tell me which ones are definately different mixes. and how are they different and which ones are the most desirable. FREE price guide Ed. 4 for the best information

LASHAWN COLLINS

WHAT YOU GONNA DO NOW / GIRL CHOOSES THE BOY SINCERE 1003 green label

WHAT YOU GONNA DO NOW / GIRL CHOOSES THE BOY SINCERE 1003 light blue label

WHAT YOU GONNA DO NOW / GIRL CHOOSES THE BOY SINCERE 1003 red label

WHAT YOU GONNA DO NOW / A BOY CHOSES A GIRL SINCERE 1003 yellow label

.............................

John, regarding the LaShawn Collins, the light blue and yellow copies are the superior versions as they have the twinkling vibes which give the record so much charm .

The green copy lacks the vibes completely and make the tune sound "empty" and gives it an "unfinished" or demo like feel.

Don't know about the red copy, sorry, haven't heard it. Cheers.

[Here's the red one taken from the vinyl 2 mins ago. Someone please post the yeller one then perhaps we can all vote for the better version.

wow...never thought that was a red one my mates is red and its the same as my white demo here is the link to how ours sounds

this one below..

https://www.soulclub.org/stream/Syl_Johnson...hat_Love_Is.ram

so straight away thats 2 versions on red issues

Must admit I prefer the intro on mine drums and piano... and im not took keen on that triangle all the way through your version..Personal preference of course..

kinda get on your neveres a bit.

thanks for the posting..lets see if we can get some more versions

Edited October 8, 200618 yr by the gasher

  Chris Anderton said:

John,

Had all the Lashawans at one time or another and i cant tell them apart mate. Always kept with my blue one i bought off you at Cleethorpes a few years ago.

Actually i googled lashawn Collins a couple of years ago, got an old photo from the 60s/70s listing all the people in the photo. One was Lashawn, i emailed the person posting the photo trying to get info but got no joy....lets face it as the old football chant goes....there really has to be "Only one lashawn Collins....One lashawn Collinnnnnssssss!"

Chris

Chris

onev of the LaShawn's is a diff. mix not sure which one 'cuase like you or anyone I've never had all 4 at the same time?

When finding different mixes you need to check the deadwax.

I've spent a little time looking for some Syl Johnson in our stock and come up with these so far.

Deadwax matrix SP1 is on both labels

1. red stock copy

2. White Demo this mix is the PIANO intro mix a little weaker than mix

deadwax matrix 20079 -2 is also on the Red label is the brass full-on intro with piano backin'

Note there is NO different in the design of the Red labels, both mixes have identical labels.

a little confusing, so what's the deadwax matrix on the yellow copy which i don't have at the 'mo? or do both matrix's exsist on that colour too.

Same question for the white demo.

Thanks for the help so far

Edited October 8, 200618 yr by john manship

Thanks for the help on this especially from "Sunnysoul" So there another question. Does the RED LABEL Lashawn Collins have the full VIBES backing. ??

  john manship said:

When finding different mixes you need to check the deadwax.

I've spent a little time looking for some Syl Johnson in our stock and come up with these so far.

Deadwax matrix SP1 is on both labels

1. red stock copy

2. White Demo this mix is the PIANO intro mix a little weaker than mix

deadwax matrix 20079 -2 is also on the Red label is the brass full-on intro with piano backin'

Note there is NO different in the design of the Red labels, both mixes have identical labels.

a little confusing, so what's the deadwax matrix on the yellow copy which i don't have at the 'mo? or do both matrix's exsist on that colour too.

Same question for the white demo.

Thanks for the help so far

Great thread this.

On the white demo, there are no markings in the dead wax at all, & it's this cut....

https://www.soulclub.org/stream/Syl_Johnson...hat_Love_Is.ram

I seem to remember the yellow one is the other cut. You've got one, or you had one didn't you Ted? Ted

  pottsy said:

Great thread this.

On the white demo, there are no markings in the dead wax at all, & it's this cut....

https://www.soulclub.org/stream/Syl_Johnson...hat_Love_Is.ram

I seem to remember the yellow one is the other cut. You've got one, or you had one didn't you Ted? Ted

Ihave mate gonna post it later

  Tedsoul said:

Ihave mate gonna post it later

Ted, sorry Potsy

Go to specsavers it's a very faint lightly scratched in SP-1

Edited October 8, 200618 yr by john manship

I swear when I had this a couple of months ago on the yellow label, the artist was LaSawn Collins or LaSaun not LaShawn Collins...posted a scan up on here at the time

Go to specsavers it's a very faint lightly scratched in SP-1

  john manship said:

Ted, sorry Potsy

Go to specsavers it's a very faint lightly scratched in SP-1

Oh blimey...yeh, I see it now...oops no it's gone again

I was warned it would make me go blind

  the gasher said:

Go to specsavers it's a very faint lightly scratched in SP-1

I had to get the magnifier out to find it

and then I looked at my white demo

That's all those cold Northerly's going up yer kilt every time you bend over to put another one on the deck mate...

Do you know what love is - Sly Johnson - Special agent yellow issue

info in the grooves DYKWLI 20079-2 and 20080-1
sounds like ther is either a pressing plant fault or its worn

I'm sure I took a recording of the white demo when listing it for Andy. Won't be till mid week at least till I can look through tapes. It's the same as the one Ady posted, drums, piano and horns intro.

Edited October 8, 200618 yr by chalky

EXAXCTLY THAT TEDWARD..

ITS CHILLY ROUND THE TROSSACHS

AS THEY SAY

  pottsy said:

That's all those cold Northerly's going up yer kilt every time you bend over to put another one on the deck mate...

THATS THE WHITE DEMO VERSION INTRO WITHOUT THE STOOPID FECKING

CHINK CHINK CHINK SOUND

THATS WHAT THAT IS..SAME AS MINE

SP-1 W/D

THE BEST VERSION IMO BUT ONLY BECAUSE I HAVE IT

IF I DINDT AND HAD THE OTHER CHINKY ONE

ID SAY THE SAME ANYWAY..

  chalky said:

Do You know What Love Is - Syl Johnson - Special Agent

Not sure which release this is from...quality not that great either

  john manship said:

As I haven't got all the variations of these 45s in stock at the moment can any of you guys tell me which ones are definately different mixes. and how are they different and which ones are the most desirable. FREE price guide Ed. 4 for the best information

LASHAWN COLLINS

WHAT YOU GONNA DO NOW / GIRL CHOOSES THE BOY SINCERE 1003 green label

WHAT YOU GONNA DO NOW / GIRL CHOOSES THE BOY SINCERE 1003 light blue label

WHAT YOU GONNA DO NOW / GIRL CHOOSES THE BOY SINCERE 1003 red label

WHAT YOU GONNA DO NOW / A BOY CHOSES A GIRL SINCERE 1003 yellow label

Also need the same info on:

SYL JOHNSON

DO YOU KNOW WHAT LOVE IS / THE LOVE I FOUND IN YOU SPECIAL AGENT 200 DJ

DO YOU KNOW WHAT LOVE IS / THE LOVE I FOUND IN YOU SPECIAL AGENT 200 red label

DO YOU KNOW WHAT LOVE IS / THINGS AIN'T RIGHT SPECIAL AGENT 201 yellow label

thanks

john.

Re Special Agent Label - What else was released on the label

200 Syl Johnson

201 Syl Johnson

202Homer Walker JR

203 Barbara Acklin

Anything else?

  Pete-S said:

I swear when I had this a couple of months ago on the yellow label, the artist was LaSawn Collins or LaSaun not LaShawn Collins...posted a scan up on here at the time

Yep, have had a green copy that was LaSawn......

Girf

  john manship said:

Thanks for the help on this especially from "Sunnysoul" So there another question. Does the RED LABEL Lashawn Collins have the full VIBES backing. ??

Yep, the red label one has the vibes too....

Cheers Girth

  Paul Dunn said:

Re Special Agent Label - What else was released on the label

200 Syl Johnson

201 Syl Johnson

202Homer Walker JR

203 Barbara Acklin

Anything else?

Nothing else

The last mp3 link did not work on my pc. Try clicking on the last played clip on the left. That works on mine.

20079-2 writen in deadwax

Dunc

  Paul Dunn said:

Re Special Agent Label

202Homer Walker JR

I have this on a Damon Acetate..untortunately it has started shedding the wax.

I also have an issue copy (yellow label).

What's the value on this?

  pikeys dog said:

I have this on a Damon Acetate..untortunately it has started shedding the wax.

I also have an issue copy (yellow label).

What's the value on this?

Paid around $50 for mineon ebay about 6 months ago

Thanks for all the info guys:

One last question does the YELLOW label Syl Johnson exist with the SP-1 mix ??

If anyone has one please let me know asap.

So who gets the free Price Guide???

I'll let'cha know

  john manship said:

Thanks for all the info guys:

One last question does the YELLOW label Syl Johnson exist with the SP-1 mix ??

If anyone has one please let me know asap.

So who gets the free Price Guide???

UNLESS anyone has one then Ive got to say John..ive seen half a dozen of the Yellow copies

and none of them have had the the sp-1 mix

I'll let'cha know

Its got to be me John

Becuase im a poor jock

Edited October 10, 200618 yr by the gasher

  john manship said:

Thanks for all the info guys:

One last question does the YELLOW label Syl Johnson exist with the SP-1 mix ??

If anyone has one please let me know asap.

So who gets the free Price Guide???

I'll let'cha know

Do you mean Special Agent 200 on Yellow John? I've been told, pretty sure it was mentioned on the RSF when this disc talked about some time ago, that thew SP-1 mix does exist on both Red and Yellow Special Agent 200. Haven't seen myself, can only pass on what was said on the RSF.