Money Records

[jam66]

Anyone know where information on the Money label hides on the Interwebs?

 

thought I'd have a nosey because of an interest in The Meadowlarks/Larks and of course the sublime Make Me Yours was on the imprint. First looked at the discography on Soulful Kinda Music then dived into the web. the only thing I can get out of Goggle at the moment is the cashmoney label with 'lil ^&*%*&% Wayne or Niki Minger.

 

The discography at Soulful Kinda piqued my interest even further as for a label that ran from '54 to around '73 they had what seems so few releases. So any info on who formed it and how it managed to run almost under the radar for so long??

 

Did a search on here but didn't manage to find anything so if it's just a matter of pointing me in the right direction that's good too.

[Ady Croasdell]

I did 3 volumes of the Money Soul Story on CDKEND 209, 267, 316. All still available and as in depth about it as you'll find. The Bettye Swann one is a bit old now but features her story at money CDKEND 197

[Roburt]

Try typing Money label into the search facility at the '45cat' web site.

[jam66]

Yeah got the discography from Dave's site Roburt, just drawing a blank on information about the label itself.

Cheers Ady.

[Mike]

the search on here using  quotes to get better matching and select all content - does throws up some stuff - not a lot but may be of interest if haven't tried the "" already

https://www.soul-source.co.uk/search/?q=%22money+records%22&sortby=relevancy&page=1

[jam66]

Cheers Mike, have to remember the quotes for future searches, caught up in fascinating older threads now. Thanks....I think

[Robbk]

18 hours ago, jam66 said:

Anyone know where information on the Money label hides on the Interwebs?

 

thought I'd have a nosey because of an interest in The Meadowlarks/Larks and of course the sublime Make Me Yours was on the imprint. First looked at the discography on Soulful Kinda Music then dived into the web. the only thing I can get out of Goggle at the moment is the cashmoney label with 'lil ^&*%*&% Wayne or Niki Minger.

 

The discography at Soulful Kinda piqued my interest even further as for a label that ran from '54 to around '73 they had what seems so few releases. So any info on who formed it and how it managed to run almost under the radar for so long??

 

Did a search on here but didn't manage to find anything so if it's just a matter of pointing me in the right direction that's good too.

Record shop owner ("Dolphin's of Hollywood"), John Dolphin founded Money Records in 1954, after having sold his Recorded in Hollywood Records label masters.  He ran Cash and Money Records until his untimely death from a shooting in late 1958.  His wife ran the label into the 1980s.

[Ady Croasdell]

7 hours ago, RobbK said:

Record shop owner ("Dolphin's of Hollywood"), John Dolphin founded Money Records in 1954, after having sold his Recorded in Hollywood Records label masters.  He ran Cash and Money Records until his untimely death from a shooting in late 1958.  His wife ran the label into the 1980s.

What was Ruth putting out in the 80s Robb? I've not seen any tapes later than mid 70s.

[Robbk]

8 hours ago, ady croasdell said:

What was Ruth putting out in the 80s Robb? I've not seen any tapes later than mid 70s.

I thought I remember yet another re-issue of "Can You talk, and maybe a couple others of Money's '70s releases being re-released (pressed up) for The Low-Rider Scene in 1980 or 1981.   Maybe I'm remembering incorrectly, and that was in the late 1970s?

[Ady Croasdell]

Can you talk was Dootone and Now-Original sound subsid. I think you're mixing up Dootone and Money

[jam66]

Ady, did Money record exclusively at Gold Star?

[Robbk]

15 hours ago, ady croasdell said:

Can you talk was Dootone and Now-Original sound subsid. I think you're mixing up Dootone and Money

Yes, I mixed up "Can You Talk" being on Dootone, rather than Money, but I remember some very late Money re-issues (but maybe I'm just remembering the mid '70s re-issues.  Anything after 1971 or so, is a blur to me.

[jam66]

Here's some images of Dolphins record store. Seems it opened 24hrs in order to cater to the shipyards and armaments industry during the Korean War and drew large crowds to the store by having a 'live' DJ in the window.

 

[jam66]

There's also a slight link to the beginnings of the Latino scene in the area as one of the most popular DJ's in the store window was a chap by the name of  Dick 'Huggy Boy' Hugg who played R&B but later went on to champion a more Latino sound.

 

 

[Robbk]

That Grand Opening in 1962 (above photo) was Dolphin's #2 store on Crenshaw Blvd. near 51st St. in Liemert Park (The Crenshaw Area).  The original store on South Central Avenue near Vernon Avenue, in South Central Los Angeles (about 6.5 miles east of the new store) was opened in the late 1940s.

[jam66]

Apparently Mr Dolphin was a bit of an operator and took his records out to the stores himself, not because he couldn't get a distributor as is the story behind many of the labels and artists we listen to but simply to cut out the middle man. In the following article the writer informs us that no one was surprised when he called his labels Cash and Money. Perhaps not that much of a surprise him getting shot over royalty payments perhaps. One of the less savoury characters, or at least from what one reads.

 

Also in the following article is a little tid-bit about Herb Reed and the beginnings of the Platters.

 

https://www.uncamarvy.com/Turks/turks.html

 

 

3 hours ago, RobbK said:

That Grand Opening in 1962 (above photo) was Dolphin's #2 store on Crenshaw Blvd. near 51st St. in Liemert Park (The Crenshaw Area).  The original store on South Central Avenue near Vernon Avenue, in South Central Los Angeles (about 6.5 miles east of the new store) was opened in the late 1940s.

Cheers Robb, was the original store where they had the DJ in the window then?

Edited May 9, 2016 by mike
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[Robbk]

3 hours ago, jam66 said:

Apparently Mr Dolphin was a bit of an operator and took his records out to the stores himself, not because he couldn't get a distributor as is the story behind many of the labels and artists we listen to but simply to cut out the middle man. In the following article the writer informs us that no one was surprised when he called his labels Cash and Money. Perhaps not that much of a surprise him getting shot over royalty payments perhaps. One of the less savoury characters, or at least from what one reads.

 

Also in the following article is a little tid-bit about Herb Reed and the beginnings of the Platters.

https://www.uncamarvy.com/Turks/turks.html

 

 

Cheers Robb, was the original store where they had the DJ in the window then?

Yes.  I thought I had made that clear in my post.  But I don't speak English very often, so maybe mine is rusty.

Edited May 9, 2016 by mike
article removed

[Robbk]

Those group histories above were written and researched by Marv Goldberg, and come from Marv Goldberg's (Group) Notebooks, with help from Victor Pearlin, Gordon Skadberg, and Ferdie Gonzalez.  If such copyrighted Internet sections of articles are posted, the author should be credited.

[Mike]

19 minutes ago, RobbK said:

Those group histories above were written and researched by Marv Goldberg, and come from Marv Goldberg's (Group) Notebooks, with help from Victor Pearlin, Gordon Skadberg, and Ferdie Gonzalez.  If such copyrighted Internet sections of articles are posted, the author should be credited.

have removed the article content as per Robbk comments above

please do not post complete articles from other sites unless you have permission to do so 

thanks

 

[Ady Croasdell]

In the mid 60s the store DJ (simultaneously going out on radio) was AC Scott aka Al Scott, owner of Call Me records and Ruth Dolphin's right hand man. He recalled Tammi Terrell turning up for a P A in a fur coat looking incredible. I wrote about it in detail in one of the Kent Money CDs

[Robbk]

I would guess that Ruth Dolphin was the money partner with Al Scott in Call Me Records, and was a half-owned subsidiary of Money Records.

[jam66]

On 09/05/2016 at 17:36, RobbK said:

Yes.  I thought I had made that clear in my post.  But I don't speak English very often, so maybe mine is rusty.

No Robb not exactly. I've seen you post elsewhere that you've worked for Disney, it must get hot in those costumes so perhaps it's a little heat fatigue?

 

There was method in my madness for as you can see in the following photo which the poster is at pains to point out has a 'Live' notice in the window but it looks more like the second store judging by the other photos hence the question. Here's hoping you get better at the "English as it is wrote"  for as Churchill famously said 'Up with this we will not put.'

On 09/05/2016 at 18:24, ady croasdell said:

In the mid 60s the store DJ (simultaneously going out on radio) was AC Scott aka Al Scott, owner of Call Me records and Ruth Dolphin's right hand man. He recalled Tammi Terrell turning up for a P A in a fur coat looking incredible. I wrote about it in detail in one of the Kent Money CDs

With all due respect Ady I don't wish to spend nearly £40 for CD's I won't play I stream all my music now. I know what fantastic booklets you put out as when I did buy CD's I bought some of yours. I also posted as a talking point to see what other people knew. I swear sometimes it's like a dank corner of the ancient Library Of Alexandria with a gaggle of grave robbers squabbling over the deceased's effects.

 

Still a pastime for me and I've hardly been anywhere for years so I've lots of thing I'm finding out that the rest of you take for granted. Plenty of sounds I've not heard and plenty to re-activate for me personally thanks to the wonderful WWW. Rationing myself too wouldn't want to become jaded.

 

Sorry for putting up the full article Mike went full retard for some reason I know the rules I post elsewhere on the net. Marv suggested putting a snippet up as he's always changing it, another aside Robb I did put a link in.

 

So be a bit gentler with us bungling amateurs. I try and advertise the site wherever I have a comment or an opinion about something as it's such a valuable resource.

l'd have warned them a charisma bypass may be a good idea before visiting if I'd have been aware.

 

 

 

 

Edited May 10, 2016 by jam66
tidy up.

[Ady Croasdell]

Well you got some bits for free. Have you streamed the Money CDs? Sadly I don't know how that works. Did you like the unissued tracks?

[jam66]

Listened to some of the clips on the Ace website, I only really stream/youtube oldies don't get into pinching the newer issues. Definitely worth a listen there's quite a few I've enjoyed, I've still a few to listen to still. I really like The Larks harmonies which is what piqued my interest really tight I feel.

 

I do not underestimate what you've done and continue to do to bring as full and exhaustive overview of the music we love Ady. Couldn't resist a little dig  though. 

[Chalky]

On 9 May 2016 at 10:24, ady croasdell said:

In the mid 60s the store DJ (simultaneously going out on radio) was AC Scott aka Al Scott, owner of Call Me records and Ruth Dolphin's right hand man. He recalled Tammi Terrell turning up for a P A in a fur coat looking incredible. I wrote about it in detail in one of the Kent Money CDs

Mighty fine read they are too...there is a book in there somewhere 

[jam66]

Apparently, though I've not had word back yet, the Blendells Huggies Bunnies could have been written in some form of celebration of the aforementioned Huggy's groupies.