Colsoul Posted April 16, 2016 Posted April 16, 2016 (edited) the Earl Jackson on ebay w/d soul self satisfaction, has flip side looking thru the eyes of love the one I have has sss on both sides and thought and bought it as original ? anyone know if it came out twice on demo as on popsike there are two type faces used one like mine and one thicker and bolder, col Edited April 16, 2016 by colsoul addition
Chris L Posted April 16, 2016 Posted April 16, 2016 There were 2 different demos releases, 1st one is mine I sold about 2.5 years ago, flip had "eyes of love" never saw one with Self satisfaction on the B side.
Roburt Posted April 16, 2016 Posted April 16, 2016 (edited) Track produced, arranged & conducted by Johnny Pate who also co-wrote the song. I visited him back when he lived in Vegas and made a point of asking him about this cut. "Who was it by & what was the song title" he said ... "have no memory of that session at all & can't even recall working with a guy called Earl Jackson". So much for getting the low down on this NS anthem then. Picture of Johnny with a few of the 45's I'd taken along (got the sleeves autographed). Edited April 17, 2016 by Roburt 2
Chris L Posted April 16, 2016 Posted April 16, 2016 2 hours ago, Roburt said: Track produced, arranged & conducted by Johnny Pate who also co-wrote the song. I visited him back when he lived in Vegas and made a point of asking him about this cut. "Who was it by & what was the song title" he said ... "have no memory of that session at all & can't even recall working with a guy called Earl Jackson". So much for getting the low down on this NS anthem then. I guess the rolling mill quantity of arrangements and productions not hard to believe.
SHEFFSOUL Posted April 16, 2016 Posted April 16, 2016 6 hours ago, Chris L said: There were 2 different demos releases, 1st one is mine I sold about 2.5 years ago, flip had "eyes of love" never saw one with Self satisfaction on the B side. the second 45 looks like a west coast press, same as the issue?
Pga1 Posted April 17, 2016 Posted April 17, 2016 Thought it was our jackie of mirwood fame, under one of his many names ' like bob relph and earl (Jackson) Cheers
Chris L Posted April 17, 2016 Posted April 17, 2016 8 hours ago, SHEFFSOUL said: You would have thought that ABC might still have the info ?
Garethx Posted April 17, 2016 Posted April 17, 2016 I've always suspected that 'Earl Jackson' was a psuedonym for a white artist.
Kegsy Posted April 17, 2016 Posted April 17, 2016 (edited) On 4/16/2016 at 13:05, colsoul said: the Earl Jackson on ebay w/d soul self satisfaction, has flip side looking thru the eyes of love the one I have has sss on both sides and thought and bought it as original ? anyone know if it came out twice on demo as on popsike there are two type faces used one like mine and one thicker and bolder, col I've never seen a demo with SSS on both sides and I cant find any mention or evidence of one anywhere, I've had both type faces and both had Looking Thru as the flip side. Edited April 17, 2016 by Kegsy
Colsoul Posted April 17, 2016 Author Posted April 17, 2016 it must be a miss press, it has a squiggle ending with a z type thing on both sides in the deadwax ,Col
Tony Smith Posted April 19, 2016 Posted April 19, 2016 On 17 April 2016 at 03:29, Pga1 said: Thought it was our jackie of mirwood fame, under one of his many names ' like bob relph and earl (Jackson) Cheers "Earl" was Earl Nelson not Jackson.
Roburt Posted April 19, 2016 Posted April 19, 2016 Earl Jackson was a guy in his own right ... I'm chasing up a lead in New York that (hopefully) will result in us (finally) getting the full SP on Earl .... MORE LATER ... 1
Roburt Posted April 19, 2016 Posted April 19, 2016 Sometimes you just can't win ............... I chased up my New York contacts ..... that's coz ......... Earl Jackson was a singer & a songwriter but he had little success as a singer, so I went off down the songs road .... ..... Turns out that Earl wrote in partnership with a number of guys ....... 1st off is Gregory Carroll: GC was originally from Baltimore but was then NY based & wrote for the likes of Doris Troy. He produced stuff for NY based Twirl Records (Jo Ann Courcy) + Tina Florence for APT. GC also wrote FOR J R Bailey (Chuck Wood -- who was also from Baltimore originally but moved to NY to finish his schooling & then stayed on) and for Billy Frazier (NY based ?). 2nd; He wrote with (Josie) Armstead & (Valerie) Simpson - then NY based. 3rd; he wrote with Johnny Mitchell, a NY based guy. He also wrote with Bobby Smith (who arranged stuff for Sonny Knight & Jimmy Robins). He wrote with Morty Craft (who worked with the likes of Faye Adams, Tony Middleton, Diplomats & Earl Grant in NY). Lastly, he also wrote with Roger Bass (Gwen Owens & the Utopias). I chased up the little indie music publishing company Benday Music (based in NY) that represents Earl. There I got in touch with the publisher's rep Vanessa Benton. I got this message back ........ I'm sorry I can't be of any help to you. I do wish you the best on tracking him down. If I come across any information that would be helpful I will let you know. Best of Luck. Sincerely, Vanessa Benton ........... (no doubt she's the Ben in BENday). So it seems that we are fated to never get the full SP on Earl Jackson ........... SORRY .........
Andy Rix Posted April 19, 2016 Posted April 19, 2016 Thanks John is anybody in touch with Josie Armstead or Val Simpson ..... They might know more The song looks like it was written around September 1968 Andy
Roburt Posted April 19, 2016 Posted April 19, 2016 BTW, Benday Music (these days) is based in Jamaica, New York.
Colsoul Posted April 19, 2016 Author Posted April 19, 2016 nice to know Earl has a great pedigree in the business, ,Col
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