Glenssoulsounds Posted February 3, 2016 Posted February 3, 2016 ANY ONE ELSE NOTICED ON (SOME)? COPIES OF THIS (BOOTLEG LONDON DEMO)OF OPEN THE DOOR + OUR LOVE,...BOTH SIDES ARE DIFFERENT CUTS TO THE (CLASSIC VERSIONS) ANYONE WITH ANY INFO ??? ON HOW THIS HAS COME ABOUT....CURIOUS OR WHAT..... & HOW MANY ALT'S WERE DONE ? WERE THEY WITHDRAWN ?ARE THERE STILL SOME ABOUT ?....I KNOW YER INTERESTED NOW ?.....GLEN.
Glenssoulsounds Posted February 3, 2016 Author Posted February 3, 2016 THANKS FOR THAT,...STILL DONT UNDERSTAND WHY ONLY SOME PLAY THOSE CUTS? & NOT ALL....
Mick Holdsworth Posted February 3, 2016 Posted February 3, 2016 Do you have a copy of each to play. or is it just by going on sound clips from different listings (which are indeed different, but not necessarily the correct sound clip - I mean the sound clips don't always line up with records for sale if ripped from YouTube etc). Just a thought. However, If you do have a copy of each, there must be a difference in the matrix. Cheers Mick
Glenssoulsounds Posted February 3, 2016 Author Posted February 3, 2016 Hi mick,...long time hope yer well,,i bought 2 demo's 1 to frame ,one to play out (to save my s'side demo)they both play the alt cuts?...found a s'clipp on an ebay listing of a copy but that was the (normal) cut....strange....cheers,...glen
Soul-slider Posted February 3, 2016 Posted February 3, 2016 (edited) Well, if you look at the listings on ebay they've been selling quite well this evening....wonder why? 3 sold in the last hour..... https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Darrell-Banks-Open-The-Door-To-Your-Heart-Love-Is-Northern-Soul-45-Listen-/141893820752?hash=item210987e150 Edited February 3, 2016 by Soul-Slider
Sean Hampsey Posted February 4, 2016 Posted February 4, 2016 Aren't these things Bootlegs? Where did they come from? Anyone know? Sean
Mick Holdsworth Posted February 4, 2016 Posted February 4, 2016 13 hours ago, GLENSSOULSOUNDS said: Hi mick,...long time hope yer well,,i bought 2 demo's 1 to frame ,one to play out (to save my s'side demo)they both play the alt cuts?...found a s'clipp on an ebay listing of a copy but that was the (normal) cut....strange....cheers,...glen Hi Glen, Yes, I'm fine Sir. So, as I understand it, you have two copies but both are the same alternate (Atco LP) versions of both sides. Does anyone have a copy that is the original take, or is this just one press run of the Atco versions, where copies from sellers with orig soundfiles are just a mistake. Cheers Mick
Soul-slider Posted February 4, 2016 Posted February 4, 2016 I've just ordered one so I'll let you know when it comes...
Sjclement Posted February 4, 2016 Posted February 4, 2016 Better put the pressing plant on standby looks like there could be a run on this title LOL I wasn't aware that the album cuts were any different (although my mates got an original copy and I'm sure he's told me before.....sorry Kev) the album cuts seem a bit rushed and Darrell has trouble getting the lyrics out perhaps it was the chore of re-recording what was a big seller at the time. In answer to the question was the Atlantic recording in stereo and therefore a better option for re-recording, or was it contractual, or is it a clever marketing ploy (planting Easter eggs) I've got to admit to liking the idea of framing it maybe this is the answer to what to do with all the latest 'superior' boots that can only be given away
Stateside Posted February 4, 2016 Posted February 4, 2016 38 minutes ago, sjclement said: Better put the pressing plant on standby looks like there could be a run on this title LOL I wasn't aware that the album cuts were any different (although my mates got an original copy and I'm sure he's told me before.....sorry Kev) the album cuts seem a bit rushed and Darrell has trouble getting the lyrics out perhaps it was the chore of re-recording what was a big seller at the time. In answer to the question was the Atlantic recording in stereo and therefore a better option for re-recording, or was it contractual, or is it a clever marketing ploy (planting Easter eggs) I've got to admit to liking the idea of framing it maybe this is the answer to what to do with all the latest 'superior' boots that can only be given away I think it is different. I'll give it a listen when I get home tonight. Kev
Glenssoulsounds Posted February 4, 2016 Author Posted February 4, 2016 Removed contents of this post. It's one thing to discuss current bootlegs but site policy is not to allow sales of such on here, nor to promote outlets which sell them. ROD 2
Chalky Posted February 4, 2016 Posted February 4, 2016 (edited) yep lets get in there quick and make these bootleggers rich Edited February 4, 2016 by chalky 3
Sean Hampsey Posted February 4, 2016 Posted February 4, 2016 (edited) Bad enough trying to keep pace with US Counterfeits never mind folk doing one on UK collectable and rare 45's. Edited February 4, 2016 by Sean Hampsey
Harrogatesoul Posted February 4, 2016 Posted February 4, 2016 No surprises any more... We're now framing bootlegs for prosperity for gods sake...
Tobytyke Posted February 4, 2016 Posted February 4, 2016 (edited) it really is depressing. Almost every week bootlegs are discussed on here, I'm beginning think most people are in favour .,boasting about purchasing and even framing them. if no one bought them no one would press them Sadly there seems to be no solution! Edited February 4, 2016 by tobytyke correction
Shinehead Posted February 4, 2016 Posted February 4, 2016 5 minutes ago, tobytyke said: it really is depressing. Almost every week bootlegs are discussed on here, I'm beginning think most people are in favour .,boasting about purchasing and even framing them. if no one bought them no one would press them Sadly there seems to be no solution! People do want to buy them and till the market drops this activity will continue , these sort of boots though con no one I suppose and it is just a sideshow to the scene that most people on here relate to. 1
Stateside Posted February 4, 2016 Posted February 4, 2016 The album version is different to the single on both tracks. This is the most noticeable difference. Haven't heard the boot version but I presume this is the one referred to. Kev
Glenssoulsounds Posted February 4, 2016 Author Posted February 4, 2016 (edited) no its different again ??? this is the "bootleg version" OUR LOVE..SOUND CLIPP UPLOADED....ENJOY...GLEN. darrell_banks.mp3 Edited February 4, 2016 by GLENSSOULSOUNDS
Swifty Posted February 4, 2016 Posted February 4, 2016 22 minutes ago, GLENSSOULSOUNDS said: no its different again ??? this is the "bootleg version" OUR LOVE..SOUND CLIPP UPLOADED....ENJOY...GLEN. darrell_banks.mp3 I think you'll find that's J.J.Barnes ????? 2
Stateside Posted February 4, 2016 Posted February 4, 2016 2 minutes ago, SWIFTY said: 3 minutes ago, SWIFTY said: I think you'll find that's J.J.Barnes ????? think you'll find that's J.J.Barnes ??? 25 minutes ago, GLENSSOULSOUNDS said: no its different again ??? this is the "otleg version" OUR LOVE..SOUND CLIPP UPLOADED....ENJOY...GLEN. darrell_banks.mp3 You beat me to it Swifty 1
Tobytyke Posted February 4, 2016 Posted February 4, 2016 I did try to give the heads up that it was J J Barnes in a previous post relating to the London boot. on the 24th January 1
Swifty Posted February 4, 2016 Posted February 4, 2016 So we have a boot of a record that is actually somebody else , FFS the SWONS has officially gone mad !! What next an Impel boot of Ann Sexton but sung by Frank Pop Ensemble , who fooking knows eh? Cheers Swifty 2
Kris Holmes Posted February 5, 2016 Posted February 5, 2016 so post up the different version of Open The Door To Your Heart now & let's see who that is
Pga1 Posted February 5, 2016 Posted February 5, 2016 Well you couldn't. Make it up, well someone did. I can see it now, the ultimate northern soul track. Two respected obscure artists on one label,miscredited.American recording, Iconic song on rare uk demo that's a boot. Think that covers most bases. Strange thing is, in the future this frankensteinesque disc may become collectible, doubt I'll be here, though if I am I'll probably too busy p. ing / crapping and dribbling to care. Cheers 1
Harrogatesoul Posted February 5, 2016 Posted February 5, 2016 Who's doing these ones then? Do we know? Hilarious ignorance and sh** for brains bootleggers.
Soul-slider Posted February 5, 2016 Posted February 5, 2016 14 hours ago, SWIFTY said: So we have a boot of a record that is actually somebody else , FFS the SWONS has officially gone mad !! What next an Impel boot of Ann Sexton but sung by Frank Pop Ensemble , who fooking knows eh? Cheers Swifty Well we've also got the Candi Staton 'Unity' boot that plays her 1999 re-recording!
Shinehead Posted February 5, 2016 Posted February 5, 2016 This topic has fu**ked my calendar up I keep thinking April the first has been and gone 3
Chalky Posted February 5, 2016 Posted February 5, 2016 I have a wry smile for all those enterprising Djs who rushed and bought one thinking they had some new and exclusive to play at T'Dog n Duck this weekend 3
Shinehead Posted February 5, 2016 Posted February 5, 2016 Love to see GLENSOULSOUNDS reply to the revelation of the answer to his question. 1
Glenssoulsounds Posted February 6, 2016 Author Posted February 6, 2016 The answer to the "revelation" about the "darrell banks" boot is quite simple, the point of the question was to share this "cock-up" in title/artist of the 45 ? i have a "j j barnes" our love & knew it was the same track & ,i was simply making others aware of it, & as already stated"it will end up being a collectors item in itself, like it or not,....thank one & all. glen.
Shinehead Posted February 7, 2016 Posted February 7, 2016 (edited) 15 hours ago, GLENSSOULSOUNDS said: The answer to the "revelation" about the "darrell banks" boot is quite simple, the point of the question was to share this "cock-up" in title/artist of the 45 ? i have a "j j barnes" our love & knew it was the same track & ,i was simply making others aware of it, & as already stated"it will end up being a collectors item in itself, like it or not,....thank one & all. glen. Thanks for sharing the information that this record plays 'JJ Barnes' instead of 'Darrell Banks' , if anyone bought it and did not like the 'Barnes' version they could frame it I suppose Edited February 7, 2016 by shinehead
Popular Post Chalky Posted February 7, 2016 Popular Post Posted February 7, 2016 15 hours ago, GLENSSOULSOUNDS said: The answer to the "revelation" about the "darrell banks" boot is quite simple, the point of the question was to share this "cock-up" in title/artist of the 45 ? i have a "j j barnes" our love & knew it was the same track & ,i was simply making others aware of it, & as already stated"it will end up being a collectors item in itself, like it or not,....thank one & all. glen. Why didn't you share all this information in your initial post rather than ask why it was an alternate take, was it a withdrawn alternate take and how many was done. If you knew it was JJ Barnes why buy two copies, one to frame and the other to save wear on your Stateside copy 4
Sjclement Posted February 7, 2016 Posted February 7, 2016 1 hour ago, chalky said: Why didn't you share all this information in your initial post rather than ask why it was an alternate take, was it a withdrawn alternate take and how many was done. If you knew it was JJ Barnes why buy two copies, one to frame and the other to save wear on your Stateside copy Surely you mean Revilot 1
Chalky Posted February 7, 2016 Posted February 7, 2016 53 minutes ago, sjclement said: Surely you mean Revilot Glen said "i bought 2 demo's 1 to frame ,one to play out (to save my s'side demo)" in post 4 or 5.
Glenssoulsounds Posted February 7, 2016 Author Posted February 7, 2016 firstly, i bought the 2 copies unheard,..played them & thought thats ..j.j.barnes ?.was not 100% sure because of the slightly alt cut of "open the door" on other side...thought i would open it up for informational & disscusional reasons,...seems to have worked,...thanks to everyone,.....still the underlying question is,...why the j.j.barnes cut on the london label credited to darrell.banks,.....glen.
Shinehead Posted February 7, 2016 Posted February 7, 2016 2 minutes ago, GLENSSOULSOUNDS said: firstly, i bought the 2 copies unheard,..played them & thought thats ..j.j.barnes ?.was not 100% sure because of the slightly alt cut of "open the door" on other side...thought i would open it up for informational & disscusional reasons,...seems to have worked,...thanks to everyone,.....still the underlying question is,...why the j.j.barnes cut on the london label credited to darrell.banks,.....glen. It is not on the London label though is it Glen it is a bootleg and done by stupid bootleggers at that. 1
Glenssoulsounds Posted February 7, 2016 Author Posted February 7, 2016 its on a bootleg london label yes...
Dave Moore Posted February 7, 2016 Posted February 7, 2016 45 minutes ago, GLENSSOULSOUNDS said: its on a bootleg london label yes... And right there is the elephant in the room that you seem to be ingoring. LOL! Regards, Dave 2
Popular Post Woodbutcher Posted February 7, 2016 Popular Post Posted February 7, 2016 Sounds like someone got taken in to me and is now trying to save a little face ... Must be the first recorded case of a bootleg djing individual getting inadvertently scammed by a bootleggers f**k-up ... don't know what the world's coming to ... Just how these are supposed to become valuable 'rarities' in years to come escapes me too ... 6
Stockholmsoulfox Posted February 7, 2016 Posted February 7, 2016 (edited) I've always liked the J.J Barnes take. I used to have the very pretty, Revilot multi-coloured stock copy.. Given the surreal, bootleg, mistaken identity and occasionally defensive nature of this thread what's your favourite version? .... Edited February 7, 2016 by stockholmsoulfox 1
Sean Hampsey Posted February 7, 2016 Posted February 7, 2016 5 hours ago, WoodButcher said: 4 hours ago, stockholmsoulfox said: I've always liked the J.J Barnes take. I used to have the very pretty, Revilot multi-coloured stock copy.. Given the surreal, bootleg, mistaken identity and occasionally defensive nature of this thread what's your favourite version? .... Darrell Banks UK London Demo orig (US Revilot) version Pete. Wouldn't trade mine for 1,000 Bootlegs. Sean 1
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