Tlscapital Posted December 15, 2015 Posted December 15, 2015 Can't put my hand on my stock copy at this moment. So I just played my newly acquired promo copy and 'I'm a coward' sounds like an other take... or am I confused by the clearer sound on my converted and improved turntable ? Even 'puppet on a string' sounds different (not an other take necessarily) but this is maybe only my new hi-fi "sound". Anyone out there knows better ?
Weingarden Posted December 15, 2015 Posted December 15, 2015 The Correc-tone sides are completely different recordings from the Ric-Tic and Sonbert ones.
Robbk Posted December 15, 2015 Posted December 15, 2015 28 minutes ago, tlscapital said: Can't put my hand on my stock copy at this moment. So I just played my newly acquired promo copy and 'I'm a coward' sounds like an other take... or am I confused by the clearer sound on my converted and improved turntable ? Even 'puppet on a string' sounds different (not an other take necessarily) but this is maybe only my new hi-fi "sound". Anyone out there knows better ? Your ears are fine. "I'm a Coward" is VERY different from "Gino Is a Coward", in tempo, instrumentation and vocal, and background singers. And, "Puppet On A String", although much closer to the re-recorded 1964 version, were both recorded 2 years earlier. After Wilbur Golden, at Correc-Tone had so much trouble financing his record company, and his chief A&R man, Robert Bateman left, and Gino saw that Correc-Tone was doing nothing for his career, he, himself, shopped those 2b songs of his to Ed Wingate and JoAnne Jackson at Golden World Records. They liked the songs and knew of Gino's great local club act and following, and got them to record updated versions of the 2 songs. And they used those cuts to re-launch their Ric-Tic label imprint in a new Detroit-based operation. Their previous Ric-Tic label, operated in 1962 and early 1963, shared the number series with Golden World, and recording was done in New York.
Tlscapital Posted December 15, 2015 Author Posted December 15, 2015 10 minutes ago, RobbK said: Your ears are fine. "I'm a Coward" is VERY different from "Gino Is a Coward", in tempo, instrumentation and vocal, and background singers. And, "Puppet On A String", although much closer to the re-recorded 1964 version, were both recorded 2 years earlier. After Wilbur Golden, at Correc-Tone had so much trouble financing his record company, and his chief A&R man, Robert Bateman left, and Gino saw that Correc-Tone was doing nothing for his career, he, himself, shopped those 2b songs of his to Ed Wingate and JoAnne Jackson at Golden World Records. They liked the songs and knew of Gino's great local club act and following, and got them to record updated versions of the 2 songs. And they used those cuts to re-launch their Ric-Tic label imprint in a new Detroit-based operation. Their previous Ric-Tic label, operated in 1962 and early 1963, shared the number series with Golden World, and recording was done in New York. Hi Rob, thanks for your very complete input as usual, but here I am specifically trying to figure out if we can compare both Correct-Tone; the promo versus the issue/stock copies... are they different take ? Like the Miracles 'shop around' and the 3 different cuts/takes... I know about the SonBert and Ric-Tic re-recording.
Robbk Posted December 15, 2015 Posted December 15, 2015 All the Correc-Tone WDJs and stock copies I ever heard were the same for both "I'm A Coward" and "Puppet On A String". Wilbur Golden always had cash-flow troubles. I'd be surprised if he recorded both those songs twice, and released them both twice. There's enough confusion with those songs' releases on so many different labels as it is (Correc-Tone, SonBert, Ric-Tic, Do-De-Re). To have one more version of each song would really confuse things.
Roburt Posted December 16, 2015 Posted December 16, 2015 (edited) Not related to this 45 at all, but it does date from the right period, details a Gino Washington live gig and is just nice (IMHO) .............. Dont forget that there was 'Police supervision at all times' at these events held at the Owosso Armory !!! Edited December 16, 2015 by Roburt 1
Tlscapital Posted December 17, 2015 Author Posted December 17, 2015 On 15 décembre 2015 at 00:30, RobbK said: All the Correc-Tone WDJs and stock copies I ever heard were the same for both "I'm A Coward" and "Puppet On A String". Wilbur Golden always had cash-flow troubles. I'd be surprised if he recorded both those songs twice, and released them both twice. There's enough confusion with those songs' releases on so many different labels as it is (Correc-Tone, SonBert, Ric-Tic, Do-De-Re). To have one more version of each song would really confuse things. I've just manage to dig out my old stock copy, and yes it's the same recording... the improvement I made on the tone-arm are so dramatic in sound that sometime I re-discover such or such tune. Thanks all, problem solved.
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