Rick Scott Posted November 14, 2015 Posted November 14, 2015 MAYBE BEEN DISCUSED ON HERE BEFORE, NOT SURE BUT HERE GOES. HAVING MANY YEARS AGO SELLING MY TWINIGHT ISSUE WHEN TOLD BANDIT ISSUE WAS THE FIRST AND ORIGINAL ISSUE (WHICH I BOUGHT) WHAT ORDER OF ISSUE ARE THE SINGLES ? EVERY COLLECTOR I HAVE SPOKEN TO HAS A DIFFERENT OPINION AS THE WINNER COPY IS THE ONLY ONE WITH A DATE ON (1970) ELVIN SPENCER- LIFT THIS HURT (WINNER) 1970 CHOSEN FEW - LIFT THIS HURT (BANDIT) ? ELVIN SPENCER - LIFT THIS HURT (TWINIGHT) ? ELVIN SPENCER - LIFT THIS HURT ( E.S.COSY RE-ISSUE) OF COURSE THE LAST ISSUE. ALSO WENT ON TO YOUTUBE AND PLAYED TWO SOUND BITES THAT WERE SUPPOSED TO BE THE WINNER RECORDING ONE SOUNDING A BIT MORE FUNKY AND THE OTHER THE SAME AS THE TWINIGHT RECORDING SO ASSUME WINNER ISSUE MORE FUNKY VERSION ? ALSO I WONDER WHY THE NAME CHANGE ELVIN SPENCER/CHOSEN FEW? THANKS FOR LOOKING AND HOPEFULY GIVING YOUR VIEWS. Rick
Tlscapital Posted November 14, 2015 Posted November 14, 2015 The thing for me is that the Winner and the Twinight share the exact same credit. While the Bandit copy have another Publishing company and the producer is not Syl Johnson there !!! So I would believe that someone who was in the making of this recording was not happy with the Twinight/Syl Johnson deal and took the tapes to the Bandit studios for a rival release. That's how it makes sense to me. Maybe someone have the Numero group compilations where a more factual explanations are given...
Kjw Posted November 14, 2015 Posted November 14, 2015 Chosen Few also put this out on their own label - Chosen Few Records 1
Tlscapital Posted November 14, 2015 Posted November 14, 2015 Yep; and using the publishing rights (NOR-BIL) as both Elvin Spencer's credited issues !
Rick Scott Posted November 15, 2015 Author Posted November 15, 2015 Thanks guys, only now another release comes into the puzzle, what order of release and dates if possible on all other releases of title still required, and what recording was used on the chosen few label issue, is it one of the above or a different recording alltogether? As they say, 'The plot thickens' Rick
Kjw Posted November 15, 2015 Posted November 15, 2015 This might help Rick - A native of Memphis, Elvin Spencer had relocated to Chicago after mustering out of the military at the end of the 1960s. Via mutual friends, Elvin Spencer connected with percussionist Lamar Bell, then in the early stages of forming the generically named Chosen Few with bassist Dexter Gordon. The group was rounded out by guitarists Rico Collins, “James,” an unnamable drummer, and Spencer. With the Chosen Few, Brown only added the Bandit label’s crudely drawn logo. Bandit’s 1974 issue of “Lift This Hurt” and “You Been Unfair” was pulled straight from Twinight’s master reels, a move gleaned from Brown’s dealings with Ed O’Kelley and USA Records on “My Heart Would Never Lie To Me. ”Incensed over Bandit’s backward priorities, the Chosen Few severed ties with Brown and founded their own Chosen Few Records out of spite, issuing “Lift This Hurt” yet again. Brown was unfazed. In 1975, the band issued a single on Chuck Sibit’s Mod-Art label, followed by a bluesy Rico Collins & the Chosen Few 45 on their vanity imprint. Despite their lack of success as recording artists, the band was still popular as a club act, regularly appearing on the south and west sides of Chicago throughout the ’70s. Chi-Sound’s Carl Davis recruited the act to record and tour behind his hitmakers the Chi-Lites and Walter Jackson, where they stayed until Jackson’s death in 1983. Out of gas, the Chosen Few chose to proceed as just one. Solo for the first time in a decade, Elvin Spencer did what came naturally, trotting “Lift This Hurt” out for one final run on his own E.S. Cozy label. 1
Rick Scott Posted November 15, 2015 Author Posted November 15, 2015 Yes, that helps a lot with the Bandit and Chosen Few Record label issues, just wish now i'd kept my Twinight copy. Seems as you say same recordings would have been used on the above as with the E.S.Cozy straight re-release. The Winner record label issue seems to be the only one that is a different more funky version release (A different recording altogether) Thankyou, Rick
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