Woodbutcher Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Just seen this amongst a pile of odds and sods , looks legit but I'm doubtful , well out of my league if it's a real one ... https://www.ebay.com/itm/Don-Gardner-Cheatin-Kind-What-Now-My-Love-Sedgrick-3001-7-Single-/351572968789?hash=item51db61c555:g:aeUAAOSwhcJWPh6g Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tattoodave Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 There was a repro produced as a give-away with an album called "Best of Don Gardner", so could be one of those Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chalky Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 If it was real then no chance of a bargain now I'd have to have a good look and see the run out details before I parted with any serious money. Shit photo, most phones now have the ability to take a decent photo. Why so fuzzy? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dobber Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 id say a boot,the print doesnt seem bold enough for me,also the dip into the middle is prominent as on the orig! 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Quinvy Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 No f*****g way. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chalky Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 The way it is presented and the blurb says to me boot Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Woodbutcher Posted November 7, 2015 Author Share Posted November 7, 2015 I don't doubt it for a minute , only decent pic I can find is in JM's Million Dollars book which has nice crisp print and a pronounced 'dip' ... There'll be some red faces if it is though ... Mind you the boot'll probably make £500 if recent activity is anything to go on ... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Davetay Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 The seller;s other records kind of gives it away, Disco Demands etc. 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Woodbutcher Posted November 7, 2015 Author Share Posted November 7, 2015 We ought to start running some kind of sweepstake on the side of some of these e-bay listings , tanner a go to see who gets nearest to the finishing price , winner takes all ... 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Billywhizz Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 its a boot,just check,with mind lol,and after the W R,NO DRIP, GO 500 1K, 150 POUND RECORD IN 79 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Woodbutcher Posted November 8, 2015 Author Share Posted November 8, 2015 Going to be "Comedy Sale of the Week" methinks , already topped a ton ... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Cunnie Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 Strange thing is you can still buy the album with this as a bonus single direct from Tramp records for under a 5th of the current bid price. Then again if it is real.... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Jim G Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 (edited) Real one pic taken from popsike. The writing credits prove the eBay is not the real thing Edited November 8, 2015 by jim g 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Soul-slider Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 Repro from the L.P.. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Soul-slider Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 20 minutes ago, jim g said: Real one pic taken from popsike. The writing credits prove the eBay is not the real thing Spot on! The '&' is missing on the repro. 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chalky Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 The seller knows exactly what he has and is just playing the ignorance card. He also knows what he is talking about when it comes to selling soul music...you only have to look at his feedback. Some mug(s) already fallen for it. 2 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Jim G Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 Tramp records link below for those interested https://tramprecords.bandcamp.com/album/the-story-of-don-gardner Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Supercorsa Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 Surely any collector would have researched whether this was an original or not? If they just want one for playing at home, why don't they just get a Grapevine 2000 issue? 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Joyandpain Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 1 hour ago, chalky said: The seller knows exactly what he has and is just playing the ignorance card. He also knows what he is talking about when it comes to selling soul music...you only have to look at his feedback. Some mug(s) already fallen for it. I know the seller he doesn't know what it is sorry he told me he had a bill Gardner record he deals in computer games not 45s 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chalky Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 3 minutes ago, HARRY 1 said: I know the seller he doesn't know what it is sorry he told me he had a bill Gardner record he deals in computer games not 45s That maybe so but he has sold 45's and a two second google would tell you plenty about this record. If you know the seller then maybe you can do the honourable thing and tell him it isn't a real one and stop some unfortunate buyer being fleeced. Somehow I don't think that will happen. Too many seem to think that this scene is full of mugs. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Joyandpain Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 Me do the honourable thing ? I have told him yesterday he said he knows nothing about it so there ya go I've told him about this thread too Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 Well good luck to him, he`s not lied and we all know buyers should be aware of sales like this. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chalky Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 Well he knows exactly what he has now so maybe he should do the honourable thing? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
kevinsoulman Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 most people on the scene are not mugs most of the rest don't give a fcuk Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chris L Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 6 days to go and already £125.00 how rare is this repro ? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chalky Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 It isn't rare Chris, you can still buy it brand new with the LP. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Soul-slider Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 I was going to buy that L.P but I think you have got to take a chance on whether you get the 45 or not, it doesn't give any guarantees only that the first 400 have it. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Philippe Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 1 hour ago, Soul-Slider said: I was going to buy that L.P but I think you have got to take a chance on whether you get the 45 or not, it doesn't give any guarantees only that the first 400 have it. You still can get one copy on Discogs : https://www.discogs.com/sell/release/6244989?ev=rb Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Quinvy Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 What's the sound quality like on the repro? I've bought stuff like this before to record for home listening and they have been terrible. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest briktf Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 Have one of these, sound quality is fine . As stated above was a limited reissue. Looks like I'll be Putting it up for sale soon!!!! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest HutchySoulManKTF Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 The Re-Pro is as rare as Original. Only 400 produced. Seller has not tried to mislead anyone. Clearly states advised to sell privately. Which is correct thing to do. eBay is an auction site where you bid or you don't. You don't have the right to interfere with any mans business. Not seen record come up so it has right to find correct market value. The market decides. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Popular Post Peter99 Posted November 9, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted November 9, 2015 (edited) 18 minutes ago, HutchySoulManKTF said: The Re-Pro is as rare as Original. Only 400 produced. Seller has not tried to mislead anyone. Clearly states advised to sell privately. Which is correct thing to do. eBay is an auction site where you bid or you don't. You don't have the right to interfere with any mans business. Not seen record come up so it has right to find correct market value. The market decides. I'm sorry - but what a load of rubbish. Edited November 9, 2015 by Peter99 7 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Quinvy Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 17 minutes ago, HutchySoulManKTF said: The Re-Pro is as rare as Original. Only 400 produced. Seller has not tried to mislead anyone. Clearly states advised to sell privately. Which is correct thing to do. eBay is an auction site where you bid or you don't. You don't have the right to interfere with any mans business. Not seen record come up so it has right to find correct market value. The market decides. See Philippe's post with this link: https://www.discogs.com/sell/release/6244989?ev=rb Plenty for sale with double album, and much cheaper. 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Popular Post Vadnochka Posted November 9, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted November 9, 2015 whoever s*** is on ebay deserves all the flak that's coming their way - can understand the bids up to £30 but the jump to £100+ ?? - if people don't do their provenance checking then they deserve to get shafted And another thing - this magical ( I have no Knowledge / I'm just a poor misunderstood soul trying to sell the contents found down the back of my grandma's commode - that's why its almost always shit that appears) defence is pathetic - they all know 13 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Benji Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 8 hours ago, Peter99 said: I'm sorry - but what a load of rubbish. I'm not sorry. HutchySoul's post is rubbish. 2 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Awake 502 Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 (edited) So will we be seeing William Cummings up for auction soon as well ? https://tramprecords.bandcamp.com/track/william-cummings-your-soul-searchin-love-2 Edited November 9, 2015 by Awake 502 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Matt Male Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 (edited) On 09/11/2015, 14:13:33, HutchySoulManKTF said: The Re-Pro is as rare as Original. Only 400 produced. Seller has not tried to mislead anyone. Clearly states advised to sell privately. Which is correct thing to do. eBay is an auction site where you bid or you don't. You don't have the right to interfere with any mans business. Not seen record come up so it has right to find correct market value. The market decides. What a load of crap. If I press up one copy of something, does that make it rarer than Frank Wilson or the Mello Souls, and suddenly it's worth £10k? This is what the listing says:"Not Sure About Anything About This Record Other Than It Plays Perfectly & Is In Very Good Condition.Came In A House Clearance Of Records Of Which Most Were Northern Soul & Motown.Have Been Approached To Sell This Privately But Have No Idea OfValue..So Please No Offers." Then after being told it's a repro, he put: "Had a lot of messages about this record & been advised by certain people that by there opinion this record is a Bootleg Or Re-Issue.As i dont know the history of this record i am not claiming it to be anything other than what i have listed it as.It plays perfectly & is in very good condition that is all." He's knows it not an original issue, so he should state it's a repro from a recently released LP but he doesn't. He's happy to try and mislead buyers, and keep his options open, and I'm more than happy to warn people not to waste their money on this. Edited November 10, 2015 by Matt Male Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Arthur Fenn Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 the guy makes out he's just a bit thick but he seems to be selling a fair few northern booties , may have a go at this one 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest HutchySoulManKTF Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 Matters not if its a legal reissue. Regards the LP no you don't get it in as gaurentee bought one from Discogs and eBay both had no single both had been resealed. Hasn't misled anyone sells games and records from House clearances. Doesn't have a clue. Bought 6 for quid each from box outside shop. He never stated at any point was Original. Actually has a Lester Tipton Grapevine which is worth 130 quid at 7:50 work it out clowns Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Woodbutcher Posted November 11, 2015 Author Share Posted November 11, 2015 7 hours ago, HutchySoulManKTF said: Matters not if its a legal reissue. Regards the LP no you don't get it in as gaurentee bought one from Discogs and eBay both had no single both had been resealed. Hasn't misled anyone sells games and records from House clearances. Doesn't have a clue. Bought 6 for quid each from box outside shop. He never stated at any point was Original. Actually has a Lester Tipton Grapevine which is worth 130 quid at 7:50 work it out clowns Guessing from your vigorous defence (and the addition of extra info not in the original listing) that the seller's a mate of yours ... ? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest United Sound Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 (edited) 5 hours ago, WoodButcher said: Guessing from your vigorous defence (and the addition of extra info not in the original listing) that the seller's a mate of yours ... ? Just click "see other items" on listing and there are a fair few as posted previously, and I'm not his mate, don't even know him/her Edited November 11, 2015 by United Sound Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Peter99 Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 13 hours ago, HutchySoulManKTF said: Matters not if its a legal reissue. Regards the LP no you don't get it in as gaurentee bought one from Discogs and eBay both had no single both had been resealed. Hasn't misled anyone sells games and records from House clearances. Doesn't have a clue. Bought 6 for quid each from box outside shop. He never stated at any point was Original. Actually has a Lester Tipton Grapevine which is worth 130 quid at 7:50 work it out clowns Ha! That's good coming from someone who thinks a boot/reissue is worth as much as an original. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Steve G Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 I agree this guy isn't as dumb as he tries to make out….."Me I am just a humble games dealer and I found these records in my Grandma's woodshed and I don't know anything about them" almost as good as "I haven't got a record player but it looks in good condition to me"…All BS.…. On the other hand I am sure it will look good on the decks at a soul night / niter / weekend when some 2nd Division DJ plays it and it looks like an original. 2 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Soul-slider Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 On 11/9/2015, 2:32:31, Quinvy said: See Philippe's post with this link: https://www.discogs.com/sell/release/6244989?ev=rb Plenty for sale with double album, and much cheaper. Well, I just ordered the L.P from Disgogs, but before paying I asked the seller for reassurance that I will get the 45. I have been assured that I will receive it. What's the deal with returns on disgogs, easy to get to grips with? (just in case like). Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 (edited) 14 hours ago, HutchySoulManKTF said: Matters not if its a legal reissue. Regards the LP no you don't get it in as gaurentee bought one from Discogs and eBay both had no single both had been resealed. Hasn't misled anyone sells games and records from House clearances. Doesn't have a clue. Bought 6 for quid each from box outside shop. He never stated at any point was Original. Actually has a Lester Tipton Grapevine which is worth 130 quid at 7:50 work it out clowns Lester Tipton on Grapevine is worth £50 tops, especially as it's been counterfeited. It's never been worth more than £70 tops. I'm not a Clown. Edited November 11, 2015 by Pete S 2 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest chorleybloke Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 It's a boot, trust me.... and if it was a counterfeit attempt, it was a piss poor one. Bless his little cotton socks though, he's just an ordinary bloke trying to get an honest price from this "house clearance" in Darlington FFS Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest HutchySoulManKTF Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Yawn Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
KevH Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 No wonder the scene's in such a state. Folks disillusioned,while others fake the scene. Time, money and effort mean nothing to some.Integrity zero. 3 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Theothertosspot Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 20 hours ago, Matt Male said: If I press up one copy of something, does that make it rarer than Frank Wilson or the Mello Souls, and suddenly it's worth £10k? It would certainly be unique, not sure it would be worth £10k though Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Theothertosspot Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 4 hours ago, Peter99 said: Ha! That's good coming from someone who thinks a boot/reissue is worth as much as an original. Correct me if I'm wrong (which will probably happen) but I cannot see anything in this forum to corroborate the above. R E Gards Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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