So what is this record I'm trying to remember?

[purist]

Old age comes to us all, hopefully, and with it comes brain fade.Several times in the last few years I've seen this record for sale and meant to buy it. I have no idea why I didn't write it on my wants list? 
This is what I can remember. The label is Red and White and Black, might be that there's two red areas and two white areas with black writing? maybe the red is at the sides and the white is top and bottom of the label, or vice versa, but they are kinda seperate areas, think of Canada, how they use their flag on various tourist items. I think on each side at 3 o'clock and 9 o'clock there's a design, not large, maybe its a leaf, or a bird, or just a squiggle. The artist is almost certainly a girl group with a typical The name like The Ronettes , no extra names, or somebody and the suchandsuch, just a group that stars with THE
It's a rough edged mid 60's record, no silky sweet soul or polished performance, but not out and out R'n'B. Its northern, but not like a typical classic played in the middle 70's,. It's probably what I'd think of as a "60's Newies" sound. So I'm guessing Stafford era or not long after? In my head I'm expecting to pay 250, maybe 300, so its possibly a £400 record
Help a poor doddering old fool, who is getting frustrated. Better still once we've worked out what it is, sell me one

[Tlscapital]

Old age comes to us all, hopefully, and with it comes brain fade.Several times in the last few years I've seen this record for sale and meant to buy it. I have no idea why I didn't write it on my wants list? 
This is what I can remember. The label is Red and White and Black, might be that there's two red areas and two white areas with black writing? maybe the red is at the sides and the white is top and bottom of the label, or vice versa, but they are kinda seperate areas, think of Canada, how they use their flag on various tourist items. I think on each side at 3 o'clock and 9 o'clock there's a design, not large, maybe its a leaf, or a bird, or just a squiggle. The artist is almost certainly a girl group with a typical The name like The Ronettes , no extra names, or somebody and the suchandsuch, just a group that stars with THE
It's a rough edged mid 60's record, no silky sweet soul or polished performance, but not out and out R'n'B. Its northern, but not like a typical classic played in the middle 70's,. It's probably what I'd think of as a "60's Newies" sound. So I'm guessing Stafford era or not long after? In my head I'm expecting to pay 250, maybe 300, so its possibly a £400 record
Help a poor doddering old fool, who is getting frustrated. Better still once we've worked out what it is, sell me one

[Steve Foran]

Wow! If that is it. Well done. I had no clue!

[KevH]

23 minutes to find it.!! Well done,it took me that long to read John's post.!!!

[Tlscapital]

 

[Steve Foran]

Very Ronnettes sounding. Very Spectorish as well. Googletime!

[purist]

sorry thats not it, but colours are correct

[Alan T]

Is it the Charmaines ?

[purist]

sadly not it (great tune tho')
Try thinking of a standard Calla label, then turn the record a quarter turn so that the red parts are at the sides and the white is top & bottom, if you get what i mean

[Soul-slider]

 

sadly not it (great tune tho')
Try thinking of a standard Calla label, then turn the record a quarter turn so that the red parts are at the sides and the white is top & bottom, if you get what i mean

Early Island?

[Woodbutcher]

Olimpic ... ?

https://www.45rpmrecords.com/OH/Olimpic.php

[Ady Potts]

Whoops. edit. sorry, someone's already suggested Charmaines.

Edited October 22, 2015 by pottsy

[Derek Pearson]

On first hearing I'm sure I can hear The Shangri-Las "Leader Of The Pack" on the intro of The Bonnets 45.

The former was a big hit in 1964 and as a betting man I suspect the latter came out pretty soon afterwards.

The Ronettes, The Bonnets - next you'll be telling me there's a Tonettes somewhere.......

Derek

[DerekG]

On first hearing I'm sure I can hear The Shangri-Las "Leader Of The Pack" on the intro of The Bonnets 45.

The former was a big hit in 1964 and as a betting man I suspect the latter came out pretty soon afterwards.

The Ronettes, The Bonnets - next you'll be telling me there's a Tonettes somewhere.......

Derek

Tonettes record - wow - I gotta know about that

I must admit I thought Charmaines on red leaf, the other side is called hypnotised and is also a great record - Cant find a sound byte

[purist]

Olimpic ... ?

https://www.45rpmrecords.com/OH/Olimpic.php

you are on the right track, but sadly not correct

[Philt]

Eyup John, hope you're well mate.

My guess is:

Cheers

Phil

Edited October 25, 2015 by PhilT

[Wiganer1]

what about the charmers - looking for trouble on pip ?

 

 

[purist]

So yesterday I spent a ridiculous amount of time on utube, ploughing through as many videos as I could -not listening, just looking for this label design. 

Eventually I found it. I must have looked at thousands of labels. What I should have done was check on here firs,t because a fine fellow who shares much the same taste as me had cracked it. Stand up Phil T, I reckon I owe you a shandy next time I see you.

Can I also apologise to all who to all who tried. My misleading memory of exactly what the label looked like - well I put it down to too many late nights ;-)

p.s. if anyone has a Kavetts they would part with, please give me a shout

 

[Philt]