Ady Croasdell Posted July 14, 2015 Posted July 14, 2015 As a spin-off from the Greg Perry thread, how many big Northern records, as opposed to Modern that later became Northern, were played when recently released and still available. Big ones only please. I think Jackie Moore 'Both Ends Against The Middle' was but Archie Bell 'Here I Go Again' was probably deleted by the time it was played (could well be wrong there), same with Alfie Davison. 2
Sean Hampsey Posted July 14, 2015 Posted July 14, 2015 (edited) Millie Jackson - My Man Is A Sweet Man - Spring was massive from the get go Ady!Sisters Sledge - Love Don't Go Through No Changes On Me - AtlanticSean Edited July 14, 2015 by Sean Hampsey 2
Tfk Posted July 14, 2015 Posted July 14, 2015 (edited) Loads of new release stuff was played out and became quite biggies ' if my memory serves me :- I recall Chuck Jackson - "I've got the need" - Larry Sanders "On the Real Side " being new/newish releases and were immediate embrassed. and became dance floor winners ( Especially at the world famous Abbey Youth club In Worksop town on the Sunday night dance sessions ) circa 1974/75 ? - mmm seem to remember Flaming Emeralds "Have Some everybody " Fee records being played out as a new release ? I remember picking a copy up from a shop that sold new import 45s the same weekend as hearing it out ...Roger Collins " Sexy Suger plum " Paul Humpreys Cochise ABC all floor fillers ' more to follow when I wake up properly and stop sneezing lol Edited July 14, 2015 by tfk 1
Sean Hampsey Posted July 14, 2015 Posted July 14, 2015 (edited) What era are you looking for Ady?Those that were big in the 70's only?There's a few good examples above from the 70's.You could also throw in Carstairs, Montclairs, Ernie Bush, Invitations 'Look On The Good Side', Johnny Johnson 'HoneyBee" - Jimmy James 'A Man Like Me', John Miles 'One Minute Every Hour' - Eddie Holman 'This Could Be A Night To Remember' Junior Walker 'I Aint Going Nowhere', Terry Collins 'I Love You' etc.But if Greg Perry counts and you include tracks from the 80's etc. I guess you could include Bobby King - If You Don't want My Love - Charles Johnson - Never Had A Love So Good, Otis Clay - Only Way Is Up - Echo, Johnny Bristol - Love No Longer Has A Hold On Me - Handshake, Keni Burke - Let Somebody Love You - RCA, Bileo - You Can Win - MTU Watts City, Atlantic Starr - Circles - A&M, Bobby Womack - So Many Sides Of You - Motown, Dells - Your Song - 20th Century etc.They were all massive at Northern Allnighters and we saw them very much as 'Northern Soul' at the time - as opposed to exclusively 'Modern'.Sean Edited July 14, 2015 by Sean Hampsey 2
Soul-slider Posted July 14, 2015 Posted July 14, 2015 Most by Chairmen Of The Board?Billy Ocean 'Love Really Hurts' I guess was played until it reached the hand baggers?
Ady Croasdell Posted July 14, 2015 Author Posted July 14, 2015 I only want new releases that were readily available, not ones that were big soon after release if your everyday punter couldn't buy a copy easily. I know You Sexy Sugar Plum was only a year or so old but you couldn't find it easily. I went into Fantasy's office in NYC trying to get copies. Didn't Charles Johnson used to cost a lot of money when it was big? Similarly I thought Larry Sanders 'On The Real Side' was hard to get for an everyday oik like me who wanted a copy when it was big. I suppose a test of whether they were accessible would be did Blues & Soul's Contempo and perhaps Select A Disc sell them at import prices when they were at their peak.
Triode Posted July 14, 2015 Posted July 14, 2015 Marc Sadane - One minute from loveLuther Vandross - It's over nowJames King - MemoryI recall the above played as new releases at Northern nighters 1
Guest johnny hart Posted July 14, 2015 Posted July 14, 2015 AC "What a Differance Ady makes " Esther Phillips kudu, "heaven Must be missing an Ady " Tavares capitol, Check out KRs NS top 500 page 363/4 for list of "high Charting northern Soul To Enter The Pop charts " for more which might fit your precise convuluted criteria! {dont you sometimes wish youd never opened etc ] LOL Johnny
Sean Hampsey Posted July 14, 2015 Posted July 14, 2015 Luther Vandross - Never Too Much - Epic MASSIVE!George Benson - Supership - CTISean
Peter99 Posted July 14, 2015 Posted July 14, 2015 Sing a Happy Song - The EscortsGiving It All To You - Cheryl BurdellBoth of these must have been cheap and readily available as I had both when they were being hammered.
Mick Holdsworth Posted July 14, 2015 Posted July 14, 2015 (edited) I seem to remember hearing Jeff Perry - "Love Don't Come No Stronger" out and about right from the start.Also Spinners - Working My Way Back was also played extensively as a new release - Think it hit No1 in the charts very soon after release. Edited July 14, 2015 by Mick Holdsworth
Peter99 Posted July 14, 2015 Posted July 14, 2015 (edited) Bobby Womack - So Many Sides of You (MCA)Although I think the first plays of that were from an acetate prior to the major release.Norman Connors - Take It To The LimitPeter Edited July 14, 2015 by Peter99
Peter99 Posted July 14, 2015 Posted July 14, 2015 Apologies for adding piece meal - I just keep remembering records randomly.Phyllis Hyman - You Know How To Love Me
Tobytyke Posted July 14, 2015 Posted July 14, 2015 i had a hell of a job to get a copy of lou ragland ; since you said you would be mine; warner bros. ordered it every week along with many others all the rest would arrive but no lou ragland?
Tomangoes Posted July 14, 2015 Posted July 14, 2015 SpacearkTodays peopleDC larueJobellPeter Brown (2)New York Port AuthorityProbably 50% of everything played at the Mecca and Cleethorpes.
Hammie Posted July 14, 2015 Posted July 14, 2015 Thelma Houston - Don't Leave me this wayTavares - Don't take away our musicJodi Mathis - Don't you even CareReggie Garner - HotlineAny of these fit the bill ?
Sjclement Posted July 14, 2015 Posted July 14, 2015 Selectadisc used to advertise "new" northern releases I can recall K Gee by the Nightliters Scrub Board Trammps and LJ Reynolds all being termed as new northern releases, (they also promoted Spider Limmie and the Family Cooking as northern believe me it was not!!!)
Epic Posted July 14, 2015 Posted July 14, 2015 To be fair a lot of the tunes listed aren't "Northern" ie Tavares, Peter Brown, DC Larue etc. The attendees of Station Rd would have been chucking themselves off the balcony if Russ had played "Do You Wanna Get Funky With Me" !!
Jerry Hipkiss Posted July 14, 2015 Posted July 14, 2015 Luv "Crazy changes" and Rimshots "Do what you feel" - both new release spins at various venues including t'Casino...Marva Hicks "Looking over my shoulder" played from new as well...
Cunnie Posted July 14, 2015 Posted July 14, 2015 Does this count?https://www.amazon.co.uk/MODERN-NORTHERN-SOUL-Various-Artists/dp/B00YJJ1W14
Tfk Posted July 14, 2015 Posted July 14, 2015 Pardon?My mistake Peter - I sneezed and caught the submit button before writing ma spiel out ???? Lucky it was only the submit reply button I pressed in error !!! Lol
macca Posted July 14, 2015 Posted July 14, 2015 T-Connection - Do What You Wanna Do I only remember it as a mainstream Disco record though. I can't imagine Blackpool being first with it either. All those Purley, Canvey Island types were bashing it too, surely.
Peter99 Posted July 14, 2015 Posted July 14, 2015 My mistake Peter - I sneezed and caught the submit button before writing ma spiel out ???? Lucky it was only the submit reply button I pressed in error !!! Lol I'm always doing it mate! 1
Mike Lofthouse Posted July 14, 2015 Posted July 14, 2015 By '75 you were as likely to hear a new release - like so many of those listed already - as you were a 'traditional' rarity - I recall hearing the LP version of Esther Philips 'What a Difference A Day Makes' at Wigan - remember talking about it with Les Cockell outside. Don't forget it was such a small timespan back then - the Mecca went from The Bottle to exclusively new releases in a matter of 2 years and so many of the tracks could be heard at both Wigan and Cleethorpes. I always insist it was not the rare soul scene it became i.e. Stafford and beyond,,,
Seano Posted July 14, 2015 Posted July 14, 2015 T-Connection - Do What You Wanna Do I only remember it as a mainstream Disco record though. I can't imagine Blackpool being first with it either. All those Purley, Canvey Island types were bashing it too, surely. I remember dancing to it at Wigan when it was out, but not sure if it was one of those early sessions before the nighter or not.
Daved Posted July 15, 2015 Posted July 15, 2015 Does this count?https://www.amazon.co.uk/MODERN-NORTHERN-SOUL-Various-Artists/dp/B00YJJ1W14I saw that, What a terrible, opportunistic title for stuff that is neither northern, modern or soul! 1
Daved Posted July 15, 2015 Posted July 15, 2015 Maybe I've misunderstood, but there's no way The O'Jay's "I Love Music", Luther Vandross "Never Too Much" and some others listed above can be considered northern soul. Their appeal was much, much wider and even if it was played in a handful of small northern venues, it didn't do anything to broaden that appeal (except perhaps to the 100s who were there on the night)
Godzilla Posted July 15, 2015 Posted July 15, 2015 On a related note, I remember Richard Searling getting a slating in Blues & Soul for allegedly sitting on Johnny Williams' "Your Something Kinda Mellow" until the UK issue was deleted before playing it.
dean jj Posted July 15, 2015 Posted July 15, 2015 i had a hell of a job to get a copy of lou ragland ; since you said you would be mine; warner bros. ordered it every week along with many others all the rest would arrive but no lou ragland?Footnote: Does everyone know that the UK issue is different from the US? Back in the 80's the Japanese collectors were mad for UK copies.dean
Garethx Posted July 15, 2015 Posted July 15, 2015 Scrub Board? Footnote: Does everyone know that the UK issue is different from the US? Back in the 80's the Japanese collectors were mad for UK copies.deanI think it's just because of the great ballad on the flip. US issues with both sides are seldom seen to this day.
Mike Posted July 15, 2015 Posted July 15, 2015 T-Connection - Do What You Wanna Do I only remember it as a mainstream Disco record though. I can't imagine Blackpool being first with it either. All those Purley, Canvey Island types were bashing it too, surely. the 12 was massive on the hesc alldayers etc and as been said fairly sure made it to wigan etc - that 2 mins of percussion was what it was all about for medont think anyone has mentioned that with a lot of these new releases they were similar things going on as with 60s raritiesbut instead of rarity due to the lets say numerical reasons it was about rarity due to the availability - new releases as promos/imports were at some points in their life just as exclusive as rare 60s playsas in you had to be on your toes to get/hear the latest, and also as with 60s plays stuff was dropped from the main venues once available to all a case of not hearing the rarest but hearing the newest which seemed to fit in well at the time as very similar approachesof course as with a lot of these things you had to be there and sometimes looking back you may wonder if it may just have been you in your very own young bubble/world 1
Garethx Posted July 15, 2015 Posted July 15, 2015 I think the deal with the Charles Johnson 45 was that an initial quantity made it into the mainstream importers like Record Corner, Spin Inn and others. By the time it had become popular on the Northern Scene, TK was experiencing financial meltdown, but John Anderson managed to find stock at a distributors. At this point it became 'rare'.
Benji Posted July 15, 2015 Posted July 15, 2015 (edited) I know You Sexy Sugar Plum was only a year or so old but you couldn't find it easily. I went into Fantasy's office in NYC trying to get copies.You should have gone to Amsterdam or Berlin instead. It came out in Netherlands and Germany same time as US. For whatever reason UK issue was 3 years later. Probably when there was enough demand from the underground Soul scene. * NL issue was 1976, same as UK. US/Germany 1973 Edited July 15, 2015 by Benji 1
dean jj Posted July 15, 2015 Posted July 15, 2015 Scrub Board?I think it's just because of the great ballad on the flip. US issues with both sides are seldom seen to this day.possibly but its a different version of 'since you said'
Garethx Posted July 15, 2015 Posted July 15, 2015 What are the differences Dean? Don't have my US issue any more.
Dave Pinch Posted July 15, 2015 Posted July 15, 2015 I've had both usa and uk issues of lou ragland . And I see no difference. . The later uk issue on inferno is different. .. this is extended with more of a ' reach out i'll be there' intro
Rhino Posted July 15, 2015 Posted July 15, 2015 (edited) larry houston - lets spend some time together HFMP records Edited July 15, 2015 by rhino
Peter99 Posted July 15, 2015 Posted July 15, 2015 larry houston - lets spend some time together HFMP records Love it. Dickie's old Top Cat cover up.
Eddie Hubbard Posted July 15, 2015 Posted July 15, 2015 larry houston - lets spend some time together HFMP records that was rare to begin with ,Richard even trading his copy and ZZ and co for Damon Fox and Bobby Jason cover up with Soul Sam .The stock appeared later..... 1
Eddie Hubbard Posted July 15, 2015 Posted July 15, 2015 Sad Girl - Carol Anderson ,RubyAndrews - I got a bone to pick with you ,Prince Phillip Mitchell -Im so happy ,Coffee - Casanova ,Seventh Wonder - Captain of my ship ,Alfie Khan - Law of the land ,James Bynum - Time passes by ,Third Time Around - Soon everything ....,Betty Wright -Where is the love ,Paul Humphrey - Cochise ,George Clinton -please dont run from me ( LP )..... 3
Eddie Hubbard Posted July 15, 2015 Posted July 15, 2015 Moments - I got the need (LP ) , Eddie Holman - This could be a night ....,Originals - Down to love town .......
Peter99 Posted July 15, 2015 Posted July 15, 2015 Was Janice - Skip Mahoney and easy one when it first got played. Absolutely massive record back in the day and still love it to bits - awesome dance track. Peter
Eddie Hubbard Posted July 15, 2015 Posted July 15, 2015 Yes readily available as I recall Peter. If you knew where to buy the new releases and were quick off the mark then it paid dividends. Pep and John Manship plus Soul Bowl were good for the new releases, and I found Graham Warr was excellent in the 70's..... 1
scunnyjack Posted July 15, 2015 Posted July 15, 2015 Some new releases from the Mecca.I Just Can't Say Goodbye - Philly DevotionsYou've Got To Try Harder - Ronnie WalkerSending My Best Wishes - Garland GreenHeart Be Still - Jackie Moore (Album Track ) Steve
Peter99 Posted July 15, 2015 Posted July 15, 2015 Thanks Eddie.Yep you had to be quick! I remember being on the phone to John at Soul Bowl quite a bit after scouring his typed up sales lists! . i was never a huge buyer and didn't buy expensive stuff but John was always a great person to deal with. Friendly, polite and helpful. Peter
Stateside Posted July 15, 2015 Posted July 15, 2015 (edited) How about theseDouble Exposure - Ten percentFantastic Johnny C - Don't depend on meGwen Owens - You better watch outVernon Burch - I'll be your sunshine & Frame of mindStanley Woodruff - What took you so longTower of Power - This time it's realWhirlwind - Don't let him get the best of youNanette Workman - Lady MarmaladeBoby Franklin - The Ladies ChoiceBo Kirkland & Ruth Davis - You're gonna get next to meBobby Womack - I don't knowDanny Reed - What makes her a woman Kev Edited July 15, 2015 by stateside 1
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