Guest Posted September 1, 2006 Posted September 1, 2006 I run a fab website regarding dancing No, you don't know about it - it's ballroom and latin - anyway, there is one Amature champion who has a signature that reads: Nobody cares if you can't dance well. Just get up and dance. Great dancers are not great because of their technique, they are great because of their passion. What a fantastic quote! And one I though spilled quite easily into the Northern Soul world, and one that I think answered the post of a recent member who asked about lessons
Paul R Posted September 1, 2006 Posted September 1, 2006 I run a fab website regarding dancing No, you don't know about it - it's ballroom and latin - anyway, there is one Amature champion who has a signature that reads: What a fantastic quote! And one I though spilled quite easily into the Northern Soul world, and one that I think answered the post of a recent member who asked about lessons I agree, great quote that sums it up. I don't know whether to be flattered or what, but last weekend I went to the Isle Of Wight Scooter Rally weekend. I don't get around much any more to Northern dos and haven't for 20 odd years. I was having a good old bop to some class oldies when I was approached and the bloke said "did you go to Wigan" I replied in the affirmative and that I stopped going in '76 when I joined the Navy. He said I could tell by the way you dance. Does this mean I looked like a pilled up 18 year old(i'm not) or was there a particular style?. It may have been the flayling hands that did it. Paul By the way, to all the DJs at the Crown last weekend, Thanks for a great time.
Guest Posted September 1, 2006 Posted September 1, 2006 Can't beat flailing hands on the dancefloor! Show's animated passion
Paul R Posted September 1, 2006 Posted September 1, 2006 Can't beat flailing hands on the dancefloor! Show's animated passion Flailing hands is the only passion I get nowadays I must stop it on the dance floor though Paul
Guest nubes Posted September 1, 2006 Posted September 1, 2006 Flailing hands is the only passion I get nowadays I must stop it on the dance floor though Paul I remember going to the 25th Wigan anniversary niter held at the Ritz in Manchester nearly 10 years ago, I remember a male soulie coming up to me, when i came off the dancefloor and saying to me 'you've been on the scene quite a long time,i can tell by your dancing', I really didn't know whether to be flattered or annoyed!!!! I know i am probably hijacking your thread here Karen and i apologise for that, but has anyone been accurately dated by their style of dancing??? Delx
Guest dundeedavie Posted September 1, 2006 Posted September 1, 2006 Nobody cares if you can't dance well. Just get up and dance. Great dancers are not great because of their technique, they are great because of their passion. ******************************************************************************** well thats clearly over-sentimental rubbish ...... great dancers are judged on technique not cos they bloody love it ..... rudolf nureyev , mikhail baryshnikov etc didn't get to where they were by not having great technique
Sweeney Posted September 1, 2006 Posted September 1, 2006 Nice sentiment, but I guess that the people that dance with "passion" but little or no technique are the ones that at the very least get laughed at or accused of "taking the piss" in the "Northern Soul World". Also, I would imagine that this "Amateur Champion" probably spends a sizeable amount of his leisure time sweating buckets practising to make it look so effortless and "passionate".
Guest Posted September 1, 2006 Posted September 1, 2006 Roll up, Roll up! Proffessional dancers are posting in this thread - come hear their pearls of wisdom *sigh*
Guest Posted September 1, 2006 Posted September 1, 2006 Oh, and the quote is actually from dancer/choreographer Martha Graham Now she's a professional
Guest Bearsy Posted September 1, 2006 Posted September 1, 2006 Someone called me a great dancer once but he was a cockney and i think he meant to say that i was a f**king chancer but i still hold that moment dear to my heart. anyway back to thread - you do get tehnical dancers and passionate dancers and dancers who just bop to the beat and i find the ones who just bop seem to enjoy themselves more as they are only dancing for themselves (not a dig at great dancers) but behind the straight or smiling face i think we all enjoy it as much as each other as its the music that gets you going at the end of the day, imho anyway, still a great quote though. Bearsy
Sweeney Posted September 1, 2006 Posted September 1, 2006 (edited) Roll up, Roll up! Proffessional dancers are posting in this thread - come hear their pearls of wisdom *sigh* Oh, and the quote is actually from dancer/choreographer Martha Graham Now she's a professional I see, if people don't agree with you you resort to ridicule. Yep, and the only thing that stopped me having a glittering career as a professional footballer was a complete lack of talent and application. Yet I'm PASSIONATE about football. Funny that. I wonder how many passionate yet ultimately talentless dancers Martha Graham employed in her dance company? Edited September 1, 2006 by sweeney
Dave Posted September 2, 2006 Posted September 2, 2006 Nobody cares if you can't dance well. Just get up and dance. Great dancers are not great because of their technique, they are great because of their passion. ******************************************************************************** well thats clearly over-sentimental rubbish ...... great dancers are judged on technique not cos they bloody love it ..... rudolf nureyev , mikhail baryshnikov etc didn't get to where they were by not having great technique Hold on a minute Davie! I'm led to believe that Nijinsky had two left feet and it was only heart and enthusiasm that took him the top! No wait... that's the racehorse I'm thinking of. He had two right feet as well!
Billy Freemantle Posted September 2, 2006 Posted September 2, 2006 (edited) This quote talks about 'great' dancers. It is presumably using great in in its proper sense, not in the oversused sense that makes it synonomous with the merely 'good'. What it is trying to do is identify what marks off the great from the very good: technical proficiency is taken as read. Obviously, dancers without technical proficiency cannot be great. They cannot even be satisfactory or competent, let alone good, very good or great. But assuming that they have acquired technique then it will be passion that matters. It is the passion that that will motivate them to achieve even greater technique and to make their art conceal their art. Edited September 2, 2006 by Billy Freemantle
Rbman Posted September 2, 2006 Posted September 2, 2006 I run a fab website regarding dancing No, you don't know about it - it's ballroom and latin - anyway, there is one Amature champion who has a signature that reads: What a fantastic quote! And one I though spilled quite easily into the Northern Soul world, and one that I think answered the post of a recent member who asked about lessons you what?
Soulsmith Posted September 2, 2006 Posted September 2, 2006 Hold on a minute Davie! I'm led to believe that Nijinsky had two left feet and it was only heart and enthusiasm that took him the top! No wait... that's the racehorse I'm thinking of. He had two right feet as well! Now that was amusing.
Guest Posted September 2, 2006 Posted September 2, 2006 Honestly, you lot All I did was quote a quote about dancing and passion and you've taken it to the moon and back! I see, if people don't agree with you you resort to ridicule. Yes, because people have taken the quote out of context in the way it was initially intended and delivered!
Sanquine Posted September 3, 2006 Posted September 3, 2006 (edited) Nobody cares if you can't dance well. Just get up and dance. Great dancers are not great because of their technique, they are great because of their passion. ******************************************************************************* well thats clearly over-sentimental rubbish ...... great dancers are judged on technique not cos they bloody love it ..... rudolf nureyev , mikhail baryshnikov etc didn't get to where they were by not having great technique As an end result great professional dancers are judged on technique. Anyone can aquire technique, if they perserve long and hard enough - Practise makes perfect n all that, but are they great? Passion which comes from the very soul of a person is essential to create a great dancer who then goes on to develope great technique......... Until a serious road accident forced me to give up, I was a ballet dancer dancing on points, doing solos etc.... the practise was essential to develope technique, but passion makes the dancer IMO Karen Edited September 3, 2006 by sanquine
Guest Marcelle Posted September 3, 2006 Posted September 3, 2006 As an end result great professional dancers are judged on technique. Anyone can aquire technique, if they perserve long and hard enough - Practise makes perfect n all that, but are they great? Passion which comes from the very soul of a person is essential to create a great dancer who then goes on to develope great technique......... Until a serious road accident forced me to give up, I was a ballet dancer dancing on points, doing solos etc.... the practise was essential to develope technique, but passion makes the dancer IMO Karen Totally agree Karen .... Passion is the key to a great dancer I love watching people dance & those that I get most pleasure out of watching "may not" have Technique but they have Passion on thier face & in thier bodies .... I watch for "dancers" who are not predictable in each of the moves, who dance in THAT moment & thats a Great Dancer IMHO ..... xx Soulgirl loved the quote .... sums it for me xx
Guest Posted September 3, 2006 Posted September 3, 2006 I remember going to the 25th Wigan anniversary niter held at the Ritz in Manchester nearly 10 years ago, I remember a male soulie coming up to me, when i came off the dancefloor and saying to me 'you've been on the scene quite a long time,i can tell by your dancing', I really didn't know whether to be flattered or annoyed!!!! I know i am probably hijacking your thread here Karen and i apologise for that, but has anyone been accurately dated by their style of dancing??? Delx wigan 25th anniversary at the ritz!!!!!! juxtaposition, or is it me, i seemed to remember wigan being 4 beats per bar thump thump thump thump thump music (sometimes a bit quicker) and the ritz being somewhat funkier (in a colin curtis kind of way) that's a bit like celebrating the birth of jesus in a mosque!
Winnie :-) Posted September 4, 2006 Posted September 4, 2006 Honestly, you lot All I did was quote a quote about dancing and passion and you've taken it to the moon and back! Yes, because people have taken the quote out of context in the way it was initially intended and delivered! ============== If you're a professional dancer presumably you dance to whatever music you've been asked to cos it's your job. Outside of those peramaters, for example at a northern do, you're dancing to music that actually moves you so there should be a lot more passion in evidence. I think technique within 'northern' dancing is about adaptation and expression as opposed to doing constantly repetitive steps whatever the tempo of the music. Winnie:-)
Guest barnsey Posted September 4, 2006 Posted September 4, 2006 Hold on a minute Davie! I'm led to believe that Nijinsky had two left feet and it was only heart and enthusiasm that took him the top! No wait... that's the racehorse I'm thinking of. He had two right feet as well! thats good
Guest vinylvixen Posted September 4, 2006 Posted September 4, 2006 (edited) Nobody cares if you can't dance well. Just get up and dance. Great dancers are not great because of their technique, they are great because of their passion. ******************************************************************************** well thats clearly over-sentimental rubbish ...... great dancers are judged on technique not cos they bloody love it ..... rudolf nureyev , mikhail baryshnikov etc didn't get to where they were by not having great technique Davie, you are being a little harsh on the amateurs....let them whirl like dervishes and enjoy themselves - as long as it's in the corner with the lights off - and that includes me No, seriously....if it gives anyone pleasure, carry on...and don't single them out for ridicule (i'm not saying that you do...one shouldn't single happy dancers out) It's all too easy to sit there and take the piss... ..But, excluding your men in tights....Nicholas Brothers, Harold & Fayard - the greatest dancers ever , Gene Kelly , Bill Robinson, Buck and Bubbles, Chocolateers, and then the rest....Cab Calloway, Cyd Charisse, Astaire, Judy Garland, Shirley MacLaine, Gregory Hines...and for passion - James Brown ,....and for syncronised soul steps... the Temps...oops...going off on a dance tangent Jo Edited September 4, 2006 by vinylvixen
Guest vinylvixen Posted September 4, 2006 Posted September 4, 2006 thats good Nope, this is good.... https://www.danceworksonline.co.uk/sidestep...le/nijinsky.htm When I worked at the V&A Museum as a fine art packer, I had the honour of packing Nijinsky's costume for 'L'apres Midi'. There is a piece of footage of him dancing whilst wearing this costume and when he performs his leaps, the film is usually slowed down....he remains in the air for longer than is humanly possible - and there were no trick wires..... very very eerie.......Jo
Guest vinylvixen Posted September 4, 2006 Posted September 4, 2006 (edited) https://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7...cholas+brothers This is the greatest piece of dance footage ever where the Nicholas Brothers do the splits down the stairs....Cab Calloway sings for the first couple of minutes and then WATCH....just genius...Jo Edited September 4, 2006 by vinylvixen
Guest Posted September 4, 2006 Posted September 4, 2006 Jo! I shall never decend stairs the same way every again I love that clip... saw it recently on a dance program hosted by Nice To See You, To See You Nice! Awsome dancers but that had to hurt... a little bit Fantastic song too! Can't beat big band
Guest vinylvixen Posted September 4, 2006 Posted September 4, 2006 Jo! I shall never decend stairs the same way every again I love that clip... saw it recently on a dance program hosted by Nice To See You, To See You Nice! Awsome dancers but that had to hurt... a little bit Fantastic song too! Can't beat big band And what makes me laff are people at all nighters doing the splits and trying to get up elegantly....this clip should be beamed out at every 'nighter What amazing inner thigh control....Jo
Guest Posted September 4, 2006 Posted September 4, 2006 amazing inner thigh control Yes! Something ordinarily practised by the females of the population
Guest vinylvixen Posted September 4, 2006 Posted September 4, 2006 Nope, this is good.... https://www.danceworksonline.co.uk/sidestep...le/nijinsky.htm When I worked at the V&A Museum as a fine art packer, I had the honour of packing Nijinsky's costume for 'L'apres Midi'. There is a piece of footage of him dancing whilst wearing this costume and when he performs his leaps, the film is usually slowed down....he remains in the air for longer than is humanly possible - and there were no trick wires..... very very eerie.......Jo Here's the costume....consider the time that this ballet was performed - 1913 (I think)...and then you'll understand why this costume was consider so OUTRE and shocking.... https://www.artsalive.ca/upload/dan/ps_dan_1415_full.jpg
Dayo Posted September 4, 2006 Posted September 4, 2006 (edited) Confession from Colin: er... I .... um ... er... well it's like this... I do ballroom and latin. My girlfriend dragged me into it, but I'm lovin it. My roots in Northern Soul dancing has been a major plus. Gives you a certain lightnes on your feet anyway. Oh... and taking dance classes helps your freestyle booglaoo and shingaling no end! Back to me knitting Edited September 4, 2006 by Dayo
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