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Violinaires -Im not worried -Jewel  ?

Harry Crosby
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Personally I think you`ve got to be very brave, to cover things up nowadays, especially with the amount of info out there . Different years ago, no one had Shazzam  . Seriously I would of thought unle

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This is a fantastic record, if it was just played to you without the association with this dumb sale. But what mystifies me is that it is a Gospel classic and well known well beyond the realms of the

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I know it, but think I'll be breaking 'The Northern Soul Rules' if I name it - so shant! :wink: 

 

Len :thumbsup: 

 

P.s - I couldn't say if it's rare or not though.

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  On 05/05/2015 at 21:33, weingarden said:

It's the height of folly to buy something advertised as a cover-up if you don't know what it is.

Agreed. Let's hope nobody does.

I don't buy the argument that because someone lacks knowledge or common sense it's ok to exploit them. That despicable specimen has to be one of the most cynical and unethical record sellers around.

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  On 06/05/2015 at 06:39, Godzilla said:

Agreed. Let's hope nobody does.

I don't buy the argument that because someone lacks knowledge or common sense it's ok to exploit them. That despicable specimen has to be one of the most cynical and unethical record sellers around.

Come on Godz, get down off that fence.

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Someone's having a laugh covering this up and asking that price.  Can be picked up for between £15 and £25 without searching around too much. 

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Personally I think you`ve got to be very brave, to cover things up nowadays, especially with the amount of info out there . Different years ago, no one had Shazzam :D . Seriously I would of thought unless it`s a very rare record, it`s probably known, and if it is a very rare record, why bother covering it up.

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This is a fantastic record, if it was just played to you without the association with this dumb sale. But what mystifies me is that it is a Gospel classic and well known well beyond the realms of the soul scene, so why cover it up ? 

Funny enough when I played the sound clip I instantly thought I'm sure I've got this, only to find out that I played it on my radio show 2 weeks ago. At the time of playing it one of the everyday listener to the station in Gloucester and not a soul fan messaged me to tell me it was one of their favorite gospel songs.

 

So have to disagree with some, this is way better than average ........................

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Mike Lofthouse Veteran

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It was included in one of Ian Dewhirsts projects from three years ago - there was a lengthy discussion about it on here I even highlighted that particular track...

 

 

Mind I was very pleased to see my $5 investment grow to £500!!  

 

It is a very good record though - its's only fault is the harmonica - never liked it on Soul records :o)

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  On 06/05/2015 at 10:43, Dave Thorley said:

This is a fantastic record, if it was just played to you without the association with this dumb sale. But what mystifies me is that it is a Gospel classic and well known well beyond the realms of the soul scene, so why cover it up ? 

Funny enough when I played the sound clip I instantly thought I'm sure I've got this, only to find out that I played it on my radio show 2 weeks ago. At the time of playing it one of the everyday listener to the station in Gloucester and not a soul fan messaged me to tell me it was one of their favorite gospel songs.

 

So have to disagree with some, this is way better than average ........................

 

How can something be an unknown cover-up when it's been freely available on CD for the last 3 years (as Mike Lofthouse just handily pointed out).

 

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Holy-Spirit-Spiritual-Soul-Gospel/dp/B007O3VO2Y

 

Ian D :)

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Gene-r Veteran

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  On 05/05/2015 at 20:16, 71 Steve said:

Yes a Jewel of a track :thumbsup:  but not rare to my knowledge, or I got lucky a couple of years ago two for ten dollars eBay, gave one away :)

I'm not worried..................:)

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Greg Belson Veteran

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A copy spiked on ebay not so long ago around the $80 mark, and I thought that was steep. I like it.....nice little stepper. That said, it's a $20 record on a sizable label. A 500 quid price tag is insanity.

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It sounded brilliant played on a big system in the back of a pub a few months ago, the first record I chose that night and had some interest....but like most things, not for big rooms or for dancers and certainly not for covering up or trying to sell for more than twenty quid.

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Paul-s Veteran

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Why is this being sold covered up at a ridiculous price? Its the Violinaires track as has been pointed out and its well known, sold two last year.

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  On 06/05/2015 at 10:31, brivinyl said:

Someone's having a laugh covering this up and asking that price.  Can be picked up for between £15 and £25 without searching around too much. 

 

maybe but this whole dealer's shtick seems, inexplicably, to bite the hand that feeds it. this just makes the seller look both foolish and greedy. 

 

if people  fall prey then its their own fault really. but really will anyone? doubt it.

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Garethx Veteran

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Just as an aside the sessions with Billy Perry for Jewel included Charlie 'Cole Black' Brown in the line-up. Perhaps it is him on tenor lead.

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  On 06/05/2015 at 14:36, Greg Belson said:

A copy spiked on ebay not so long ago around the $80 mark, and I thought that was steep. I like it.....nice little stepper. That said, it's a $20 record on a sizable label. A 500 quid price tag is insanity.

The irony is ,because of this post ,it will probably now go for 10 times its usual price ,so big up to Henning for getting you lot to plug his spare and rarenorthernsoul C/U !
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  On 06/05/2015 at 16:21, garethx said:

Just as an aside the sessions with Billy Perry for Jewel included Charlie 'Cole Black' Brown in the line-up. Perhaps it is him on tenor lead.

 

Almost certainly.....

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  On 06/05/2015 at 16:23, Gene-R said:

Anyone know what his Charlie Thomas c/u is?

 

https://www.rarenorthernsoul.com/Rare-70s-80s/36995/patience-cu/#product

 

Ummm, 'Unknown & unlisted, possibly only known copy'??? Somebody isn't doing very much research and blurting out false sales pitches.

 

Hear it here, track 19, from DCGS pt. 42.

 

https://www.mixcloud.com/gregbelson/divine-chord-gospel-show-pt-42-xmas-edition-2014/

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Tailormade Gaz B Long Time

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  On 06/05/2015 at 17:03, NEV said:

The irony is ,because of this post ,it will probably now go for 10 times its usual price ,so big up to Henning for getting you lot to plug his spare and rarenorthernsoul C/U !

 

 

 

I doubt it - its not 'that good' and it can't be that rare, even I have a copy! 

I've just had a flick through my records, are the 'Fantastic Violinaires' the same as the 'Violinaires' of "Groovin with Jesus' fame?

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  On 06/05/2015 at 17:46, Greg Belson said:

Ummm, 'Unknown & unlisted, possibly only known copy'??? Somebody isn't doing very much research and blurting out false sales pitches.

 

Hear it here, track 19, from DCGS pt. 42.

 

https://www.mixcloud.com/gregbelson/divine-chord-gospel-show-pt-42-xmas-edition-2014/

 

 

The trouble is you don't see these guys on the so called shop floor, they don't really have a clue what is happening as far as DJ's and current in demand spins is concerned apart from word of mouth and what someone who wishes to sell them something tells them.  You see it with the blurb/spin on many sales items.

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  On 06/05/2015 at 19:18, chalky said:

The trouble is you don't see these guys on the so called shop floor, they don't really have a clue what is happening as far as DJ's and current in demand spins is concerned apart from word of mouth and what someone who wishes to sell them something tells them.  You see it with the blurb/spin on many sales items.

 

  On 06/05/2015 at 17:46, Greg Belson said:

Ummm, 'Unknown & unlisted, possibly only known copy'??? Somebody isn't doing very much research and blurting out false sales pitches.

 

Hear it here, track 19, from DCGS pt. 42.

 

https://www.mixcloud.com/gregbelson/divine-chord-gospel-show-pt-42-xmas-edition-2014/

 

But surely all these people have to do is Google the record they have, which they think is rare or might be worth covering up - so in this instance, this specific record comes up on Gregs playlists, on collector-frenzy as well as a few forums etc. 

#researchfail

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Chalky Veteran

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  On 06/05/2015 at 19:26, TailorMade Gaz B said:

But surely all these people have to do is Google the record they have, which they think is rare or might be worth covering up - so in this instance, this specific record comes up on Gregs playlists, on collector-frenzy as well as a few forums etc. 

#researchfail

 

 

Most of the topics on any forum can be avoided with a quick google.  But some just hear that such and such is playing such and such and common sense seems to disappear out the window, along with prices.

 

Some just pray on the idleness of some just like insurance companies, hoping people won't go to go compare and just take their word  :wicked:

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Well if anyone wants a copy I'll flog you one. I'll knock a nought off and call it £50, the only thing is you'll have to wait a few weeks coz I need to buy it from the states for $10 and wait for delivery.

 

Yes its that rare!!!!! :shhh:

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  On 06/05/2015 at 19:26, TailorMade Gaz B said:

But surely all these people have to do is Google the record they have, which they think is rare or might be worth covering up - so in this instance, this specific record comes up on Gregs playlists, on collector-frenzy as well as a few forums etc. 

#researchfail

 

Never Knock anyone for finding new music for the scene but some people just end up being the centre of there own universe and a leg-end in their own mind :hypo:

Steve G Veteran

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  On 06/05/2015 at 19:26, TailorMade Gaz B said:

But surely all these people have to do is Google the record they have, which they think is rare or might be worth covering up - so in this instance, this specific record comes up on Gregs playlists, on collector-frenzy as well as a few forums etc. 

#researchfail

 

I don't think mixcloud playlists show up in google - just saying like. 

Tailormade Gaz B Long Time

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  On 06/05/2015 at 21:33, Steve G said:

I don't think mixcloud playlists show up in google - just saying like.

True - But it was Gregs 'dublab' lab page which has it listed.

However, if I was speaking about mixcloud specifically, you again only have to type the record into mixcloud itself to see who else has it/played it.

And that result comes up amongst Amazon, last FM and ITunes, all of which produce results re this record, so you get my point :)

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Sean Hampsey Veteran

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You don't have to look much further than my "Top Tips" thread, at New Year, where I tipped it.

Scouring around looks as though someone's done a good job of hoovering them all up!

Sean

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Looking at the Rafa club playlist recently, there were 3 or 4 in amongst the usual top sounds so there must be a good few still about. 

I'm sure the Lifeliner's have a fair few between them, but it is a funny one though, because someone somewhere will know it. Mr Fish, who has excellent records posted up a Fish C/U on Facebook last year and I sent him a PM straight away. So you have to be very confident in the record to do it. 

You can't fault people for trying though - keeps things exciting. I sold one last year, put it on FB, got good cash, no one seemed to know it, but Greg sent me a PM - knew it straight away and sold his as a result. 

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Mike Lofthouse Veteran

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  On 07/05/2015 at 07:19, Sean Hampsey said:

You don't have to look much further than my "Top Tips" thread, at New Year, where I tipped it.

Scouring around looks as though someone's done a good job of hoovering them all up!

Sean

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Chalky Veteran

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  On 07/05/2015 at 11:56, phatspinner said:

On the subject of cover-ups and with so much information and knowledge available these days, are there any current "cover-ups" that haven't been identified ?

 

Yes.  Some the odd one or two will know.

Steve G Veteran

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  On 07/05/2015 at 11:56, phatspinner said:

On the subject of cover-ups and with so much information and knowledge available these days, are there any current "cover-ups" that haven't been identified ?

 

Yes. Quite a few.

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Steve G Veteran

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  On 13/05/2015 at 13:32, corbett80 said:

I can think of a certain one that i'd be interested to find out the true title of :):)

 

Razor Cut & The Death Row Three?  :hatsoff2:

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