Which Rarity Has Lasted The Longest?

[Liamgp]

Pub question: which rarity has maintained its status as both desirable and hard-to-get the longest?  

 

I reckon Larry Clinton 'She's Wanted' has been sought out from Wigan late 70s onwards. Not only a great, great record but pretty elusive (particularly in issue). Mind you, it has been reissued which might reduce its status.

 

Any thoughts?

[NEV]

Pub question: which rarity has maintained its status as both desirable and hard-to-get the longest?

I reckon Larry Clinton 'She's Wanted' has been sought out from Wigan late 70s onwards. Not only a great, great record but pretty elusive (particularly in issue). Mind you, it has been reissued which might reduce its status.

Any thoughts?

Frank Wilson ?

[Liamgp]

Frank Wilson ?

 

I might have said that although it has been reissued a few times and way over-exposed to the general public.

[Davetay]

This one was played before L.C. and F. W. and still a very hard one to get.

[Chris L]

Eddie Parker - I'm gone, since 1972.

[Labeat]

Magnetics on Bonnie

[Mal C]

I'll have a stab at Lou Pride, but given I was born in 69, I wouldn't really know..

 

how about Pat Lewis - No One to Love, The Tempos - I'll Never Forget, The Terrifics - I'll Get Him Back, Jimmy Raye - Philly Dog Around The World, and when did you ever see George Pepp - The Feeling is Real?

 

Malcolm

Edited April 29, 2015 by Mal C

[Kegsy]

The first true rarity (69/70 ?)  was Leon haywood baby reconsider and its still a pretty tough one now.

There are as many Larry Clinton's on popsike as leon haywoods if thats any sort

of guide.

[Harry Crosby]

I`ll pop in these two, ive seen most things come up for sale over the years, can`t recall seeing a Del-tours-Sweet and lovely up for sale, and only a couple of Yvonne Vernee-Just like you did me. But as Dave tay says-Ispirations-no one else can take your place, has always remained a rarity. Just an after thought. LEN JEWEL-BETTIN ON LOVE-TERRI-DEE??

[Ted Massey]

only ever seen 2 Len Jewells the one I had with a bloody big diagonal crack in it and Carl Fortnum's minter. Bought a Del-Tours of here a few months ago Harry.

[Nsg]

Eddie Parker - I'm gone, since 1972.

 

 

Not really JM has sold two copies since Aug 2014 !

[Zanetti]

I`ll pop in these two, ive seen most things come up for sale over the years, can`t recall seeing a Del-tours-Sweet and lovely up for sale, and only a couple of Yvonne Vernee-Just like you did me. But as Dave tay says-Ispirations-no one else can take your place, has always remained a rarity. Just an after thought. LEN JEWEL-BETTIN ON LOVE-TERRI-DEE??

 what about the Jimmy Gresham on Teri-DE?

[Nsg]

IMHO, I would say some of the following are;

 

Don Gardner - Chestin Kind on Sedgrick

 

The Prophets - If I had on Shrine

 

Inspirations - No one can take on Breakthrough ( not the 70's cut )

 

Nathan Williams - What Price on Lime

 

Buddy Smith - When you lose the one on ?? ( Forgotten - lol )

[Speedlimit]

mello souls " we can make it "

lester tipton " this wont change "

[purist]

 what about the Jimmy Gresham on Teri-DE?

I first heard J Gresham at the Mecca, I suspect between 73-6 ? anyway, Ive only seen it for sale twice on the scene (although it could have been the same copy?) plus one on ebay, in 40 odd years .It was wanted for the PIOOYM side @ Mecca, and TFIH side in the later years, but as Kegsy previously said, the answer to the original question has to be Baby Reconsider, by a Landslide ( unless were talking specific label variations, for example, wdj's or rarer issues, or local issues, then it's a whole different ballgame, for example a wdj of Landslide   or In Orbit, both early years tunes that rarely turn up in dj format. There's got to be a few like that, those were just off the top of my head. The gold vinyl Professionals?)

[P5OULH]

Magnetics on Bonnie

Been two on ebay in the last year one on at the moment !

[P5OULH]

Billy woods and Mr Lucky

[Corbett80]

Jimmy Gresham - what a record!

[Chris L]

Not really JM has sold two copies since Aug 2014 !

 

How many has he sold since 1972 do you think ?

[NEV]

IMHO, I would say some of the following are;

 

Don Gardner - Chestin Kind on Sedgrick

 

The Prophets - If I had on Shrine

 

Inspirations - No one can take on Breakthrough ( not the 70's cut )

 

Nathan Williams - What Price on Lime

 

Buddy Smith - When you lose the one on ?? ( Forgotten - lol )

Think a few Nathan Williams turned up over the last few yrs ,so probs as rare on UA these days 

[Eddie Hubbard]

Eddie Parker - I'm gone, since 1972.

If thats the case Chris , was it played anywhere before Wigan ?

[Davetay]

If thats the case Chris , was it played anywhere before Wigan ?

It was known about before Wigan, but l didn't get one till 74.

[Eddie Hubbard]

How about real copies of Robby Lawson ?

[Eddie Hubbard]

It was known about before Wigan, but l didn't get one till 74.

I mentioned on a FB thread about the possibility of it getting played at The Torch , but was told it wasn't , and views Dave ?

[Davetay]

I mentioned on a FB thread about the possibility of it getting played at The Torch , but was told it wasn't , and views Dave ?

The 1st time l became aware of it, was on one of Simon's list from early 73. 

 

[Chris L]

If thats the case Chris , was it played anywhere before Wigan ?

 

Torch

[Chris L]

I mentioned on a FB thread about the possibility of it getting played at The Torch , but was told it wasn't , and views Dave ?

 

Was build at Torch, Nigel Martin brought it up from Herts.

[Eddie Hubbard]

Was build at Torch, Nigel Martin brought it up from Herts.

Thanks Chris , remembered Searling saying he recalled it from The Torch , but was told I must be mistaken .Glad I was right all along .cheers ...

[JOE TORQUAY]

WILLIE HARPER ON HARPER SOUL MUST BE A HARD ONE TO FIND

[Chalky]

Not really JM has sold two copies since Aug 2014 !

 

 

Eddie Parker been through ebay and private sale as well in recent times. Quite a few copies in the hands of collectors and DJ's

 

Most records mentioned copies have surfaced.

 

Inspirations probably the one with just the four known copies that have been known of for some time now.

 

Larry Clinton good few demos about but just the three red issues. 

 

Kell Osborne, just the three known copies?  Same for Junior McCants, two or three only known.

 

Many of the so called rarest of the rare, copies have surfaced.

[Jim G]

Is the question is from first play to still rare (ish) today ?

 

First play year: xxxx

 

Record: xxxxx

 

My input would be as an earlier post put it Leon Heywood "Baby Reconsider" the Wheel, late 1960's play. way before the Eddie Parkers etc.

[Labeat]

 what about the Jimmy Gresham on Teri-DE?

Now were talking Zan

[Chris L]

Thanks Chris , remembered Searling saying he recalled it from The Torch , but was told I must be mistaken .Glad I was right all along .cheers ...

 

Meant to say "played" no idea where "build" comes from ?

[Hammie]

Frank Beverley on Rouser

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Inticers on Babyluv

 

Discuss........

[Ian Dewhirst]

 what about the Jimmy Gresham on Teri-DE?

 

That's a rare record. Sold mine to Tim Brown in the 80s and I've never seen it since.

 

Ian D 

[Guest chorleybloke]

Frank Beverley on Rouser

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Inticers on Babyluv

 

Discuss........

No more than 5 each of these I'd say.  Sold both of em sadly.

[Guest chorleybloke]

Been two on ebay in the last year one on at the moment !

A real one? All I can see are the (ahem) "reissues"

[Louise]

GWEN & RAY BUILD YOUR HOUSE ON A STRONG FOUNDATION BEE BEE ?

Dave

Edited April 30, 2015 by Louise

[Liamgp]

The first true rarity (69/70 ?)  was Leon haywood baby reconsider and its still a pretty tough one now.

There are as many Larry Clinton's on popsike as leon haywoods if thats any sort

of guide.

 

Totally forgot this. The first big import sound arguably and, as you say, still hard to get and still sounds great and gets a strong dancefloor response 100% of the time.

[Nsg]

Eddie Parker been through ebay and private sale as well in recent times. Quite a few copies in the hands of collectors and DJ's

 

Most records mentioned copies have surfaced.

 

Inspirations probably the one with just the four known copies that have been known of for some time now.

 

Larry Clinton good few demos about but just the three red issues. 

 

Kell Osborne, just the three known copies?  Same for Junior McCants, two or three only known.

 

Many of the so called rarest of the rare, copies have surfaced.

 

What about JD Byrant - I wont be coming back or Andantes - Like a nightmare ?

[Guest SteveJohnston]

What about the Limelights don't leave me baby Uncle first played at TOTW? & only five ish turned up if I'm not mistaken.

 

Steve J

[Scooterboy]

That's a rare record. Sold mine to Tim Brown in the 80s and I've never seen it since.

 

Ian D 

 

Just how rare is this?

 

I got my copy from Dave Truscott (Widnes) when he sold up around 5 - 6 years ago.

 

Not exactly sure what I paid as I had a number of records from him and we did a collective 'deal'.  If I had to have a stab at what I paid for this one record I'd guess i.t.r.o. £1,000.

 

Did I get a good deal?

 

Chris

[purist]

Just how rare is this?

 

I got my copy from Dave Truscott (Widnes) when he sold up around 5 - 6 years ago.

 

Not exactly sure what I paid as I had a number of records from him and we did a collective 'deal'.  If I had to have a stab at what I paid for this one record I'd guess i.t.r.o. £1,000.

 

Did I get a good deal?

 

Chris

dunno if you got a good deal but think you might get a number of folk pm'ing you constantly now people know you've got a copy

[Scooterboy]

dunno if you got a good deal but think you might get a number of folk pm'ing you constantly now people know you've got a copy

 

Apologies, I meant to send a PM to Ian D to ask the question, not post in the thread.

[Tony Smith]

Just how rare is this?

 

I got my copy from Dave Truscott (Widnes) when he sold up around 5 - 6 years ago.

 

Not exactly sure what I paid as I had a number of records from him and we did a collective 'deal'.  If I had to have a stab at what I paid for this one record I'd guess i.t.r.o. £1,000.

 

Did I get a good deal?

 

Chris

I know it's sold for much more than that!

[Guest DaveSwift]

Eddie Parker - I'm gone, since 1972.

was on soul bowl list for £20 mid seventies

[Ian Dewhirst]

Just how rare is this?

 

I got my copy from Dave Truscott (Widnes) when he sold up around 5 - 6 years ago.

 

Not exactly sure what I paid as I had a number of records from him and we did a collective 'deal'.  If I had to have a stab at what I paid for this one record I'd guess i.t.r.o. £1,000.

 

Did I get a good deal?

 

Chris

 

Well, it's rarer than most records in this thread I think. Probably only a handful of copies at the most. Tim paid me £100 25 years ago and it was just a very oddball rarity back then.

 

Ian D 

[Cheapsiderecords]

Bobby Wisdom?

[Chalky]

Two on Doré.  Swans "Nitty Gritty City" and Little Johnny Hamilton "Keep On Movin" both one offs as far as I know.

[Pete S]

It's slipping into a "whats the rarest record" thing now instead of which is the longest-time rare record, the answer is definitely Baby Reconsider, discovered in 1968/69 and always stayed rare.  Eddie Parker was known in 1972 but  to the best of my knowledge was never played at The Torch, Graham Williamson told me he bought it at the Torch but that was just because they were playing Love You Baby, he didn't hear it played there.  You've got records from the 73-74 period like Danny Wagner that was never pressed, not ultra rare of course but still a long time rare record.  I thought it was these that we were on about.