D.i.s.c.o ?

[Guest wAvy]

D - Decidedly, I - Incredibly, S - Shitty, C - (and) Crappy oh ohhhh ohhhhhhhhhhh

i've been to a couple of nights lately and for some reason they are playing disco music! now wtf's all that bout? either: -

a.) i'm at a 70's disco revival venue by mistake or

b.) i'm at a northern soul venue but they are playing disco music!

now being still quite new to the scene (and i rate myself as not too old - well i was too young to go to wigan casino, ritz and wherever else there was) i thought the idea was to encourage peeps like myself to get 'into' the scene not drive me away from it!!! i know you gotta cater for all peeps, and some crossover 70's i can handle but disco is taking it toooooooo far!

sorry but when i hear them 'disco' tunes - and they are disco tunes, (oh yes they are) i feel like breaking into a John Travolta move!

let the discussion begin...

wAvy

Edited August 29, 2006 by wAvy

[Bazza]

D - Decidedly, I - Incredibly, S - Shitty, C - (and) Crappy oh ohhhh ohhhhhhhhhhh

i've been to a couple of nights lately and for some reason they are playing disco music! now wtf's all that bout? either: -

a.) i'm at a 70's disco revival venue by mistake or

b.) i'm at a northern soul venue but they are playing disco music!

now being still quite new to the scene (and i rate myself as not too old - well i was too young to go to wigan casino, ritz and wherever else there was) i thought the idea was to encourage peeps like myself to get 'into' the scene not drive me away from it!!! i know you gotta cater for all peeps, and some crossover 70's i can handle but disco is taking it toooooooo far!

sorry but when i hear them 'disco' tunes - and they are disco tunes, (oh yes they are) i feel like breaking into a John Travolta move!

let the discussion begin...

wAvy

John Travolta...never go anywhere with out me white suit.cos ya just never know when it could come in handy.....well at some venues

oh,and I ..agree with everthing you said

Bazza

Edited August 29, 2006 by bazza

[Guest]

Disco is in the ear of the beholder.

How about some examples of 'Disco' ?

Down To Love Town? Saturday Night Sunday Morning? It Takes Heart? Ten Percent? Carstairs?? Fantastic Puzzles? Four Below Zero? Or is it all the fantastic fantastic Philly stuff thats suddenly getting attention again because the 'new' 60's stuff is not very good and Deejays are scared to play what are still laughingly called oldies even though they haven't really been THAT played in the past??

Open ears will hear what is and isn't disco, closed ears and the mention of John Travolta maybe won't.

[Bazza]

Disco is in the ear of the beholder.

How about some examples of 'Disco' ?

Down To Love Town? Saturday Night Sunday Morning? It Takes Heart? Ten Percent? Carstairs?? Fantastic Puzzles? Four Below Zero? Or is it all the fantastic fantastic Philly stuff thats suddenly getting attention again because the 'new' 60's stuff is not very good and Deejays are scared to play what are still laughingly called oldies even though they haven't really been THAT played in the past??

Open ears will hear what is and isn't disco, closed ears and the mention of John Travolta maybe won't.

Carstairs is modern int it not very good either

Bazza

[Guest]

So lets define what records are being played that are 'disco' then?

Because I suspect what is being played are uptempo soul records recorded in the 70's to be played in 'Discos' in the 70's rather than uptempo soul records that were recorded in the 60's to be played in 'discotheques' in the 60's....and if you don't like the 70's sound then I supposed a blanket term of 'disco' as a dirty word is fine, just as 'shitty badly recorded Motown pastiches' would be a fair desccription of Northern Soul if you ..........

Edited August 29, 2006 by Simon White

[Girthdevon]

sorry but when i hear them 'disco' tunes - and they are disco tunes, (oh yes they are) i feel like breaking into a John Travolta move!

Lets have some titles then........

[Guest Trevski]

now being still quite new to the scene (and i rate myself as not too old - well i was too young to go to wigan casino, ritz and wherever else there was) i thought the idea was to encourage peeps like myself to get 'into' the scene not drive me away from it!!! i know you gotta cater for all peeps, and some crossover 70's i can handle but disco is taking it toooooooo far!

sorry but when i hear them 'disco' tunes - and they are disco tunes, (oh yes they are) i feel like breaking into a John Travolta move!

let the discussion begin...

wAvy

Disco??? I believe you were at Sherries Saturday, was there any disco there? I believe you think there was. Didn't hear any myself. Heard lots of quality 60's lots of quality 70's but disco?? Naah! But as you said, you are quite new to the scene, perhaps it's not the 'scene' for you??? You did mention in one of your previous posts :

i've just decided in the past few days that i like oldies better than newies. if newie-oldies are crossover/70's then i definately prefer oldies!!!

70's+ records have been a staple of the scene since the 70's Don't get me wrong, I am a 60's man at heart, but there are countless 70's tracks I love, wouldn't call 'em disco! Lots of other scenes out there! perhaps, judging from your 'favorite sounds' list, the oldies scene would suit you better, or try the R&B scene they don't even play soul, let alone disco! Edited August 29, 2006 by Trevski

[Pete S]

Naah! But as you said, you are quite new to the scene, perhaps it's not the 'scene' for you??? 70's+ records have been a staple of the scene since the 70's

Could you be a little more patronising please? Perhaps it's not the right scene for me either, cos I've hated this type of music since the 70's but I live in hope the muppets who play it will retire. We might have to put up with it but nobody says we have to like it.

[Guest Trevski]

Could you be a little more patronising please? Perhaps it's not the right scene for me either, cos I've hated this type of music since the 70's but I live in hope the muppets who play it will retire. We might have to put up with it but nobody says we have to like it.

Yes you are quite right Pete, didn't mean to be patronising, but you didn't just pop up from nowhere and start bandying the word 'disco' about! We all know you hate 70's which is fair enough, but you have hated it since the year dot, and at least your funny with it Like it or not tho' 70's, recent discoveries are part of the progressive scene, and quality stuff like Lil Major Williams, Joseph Webster, Hamilton Movement, George Hobson etc..etc.. are very, very popular, and rightly so Ok, so you get some dodgy stuff too, but not all 60's played are that hot either. But to class it as disco, I can't stand R&B so I don't go to R&B venues. Why 'put up' with summat you don't like?? Go to venues where it's not played, if it's not your cuppa! Why go to venues where it is played, and enjoyed, and then slag it off? It's like me going to Basics, or the Hidaway, and coming on here and moaning they played too much R&B Lifeline says on the tin "Quality 60's & 70's" and you get what it says on the tin, so don't moan when you open it and find the contents not to your taste, that's all I'm saying

Edited August 29, 2006 by Trevski

[Guest Baz]

Disco??? I believe you were at Sherries Saturday, was there any disco there? I believe you think there was. Didn't hear any myself. Heard lots of quality 60's lots of quality 70's but disco?? Naah! But as you said, you are quite new to the scene, perhaps it's not the 'scene' for you??? 70's+ records have been a staple of the scene since the 70's Don't get me wrong, I am a 60's man at heart, but there are countless 70's tracks I love, wouldn't call 'em disco! Lots of other scenes out there! perhaps, judging from your 'favorite sounds' list, the oldies scene would suit you better, or try the R&B scene they don't even play soul, let alone disco!

I counted about 10 proper disco records sat night, and they were disco. What they were called i have no idea, but that f.....in King moses needs to be melted down and cast of to the pits of eternal damnation, its giving it a good name calling it disco.

sitting on the fence on this one think the whole of the world knows my views on some of the rubbish seventys that gets played so not going into it too much.

[Guest]

Pete, as we all know you have a blanket hatred on 70's so I don't think we're going to get much reasoned discussion out of you are we?

I counted about 10 proper disco records sat night, and they were disco. What they were called i have no idea, but that f.....in King moses needs to be melted down and cast of to the pits of eternal damnation, its giving it a good name calling it disco.

sitting on the fence on this one think the whole of the world knows my views on some of the rubbish seventys that gets played so not going into it too much.

And there we have it..."and they were disco. What they were called i have no idea"

I know what i like and I like what I know...even if I dont know what it was...

[Pete S]

Pete, as we all know you have a blanket hatred on 70's so I don't think we're going to get much reasoned discussion out of you are we?

Yes

[Guest Baz]

And there we have it..."and they were disco. What they were called i have no idea"

I know what i like and I like what I know...even if I dont know what it was...

Dont get it??? so you saying i dont like any thing i dont know??

have to disagree there, i thrive on searching out new to my ears, but they got to be good to my ears too.

[Guest]

Lets have some record names then.

I don't get cetain records...King Tutt for instance will always remain a mystery to me in 'Northern' terms. Rare but not very good disco 45...but without naming records I really don't see that a blanket term of 'Disco' for anything recorded in the 70's is very reasoned but thats whats happpened here. And to deny certain 70's records are valid in a Northern set is just very silly.

[Simon T]

Lets have some record names then.

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How about

Clifford Curry - Body Shop

Sins of Satan - Dance and free your mind

the 12"s on Buddah have 'Disco' written on the label

[Guest Trevski]

lets not turn this into the usual SS slanging match for once! Original post said they had been to a few venues lately that played 'Disco" I mearly suggested that they go to venues where it is not played. Simple solution really. Don't like 70's and 'disco'? don't go to em! Don't like R&B? dont go to 'em! Don't like played out oldie? don't go to em, simple as that Too many on here slagging off venues playlists like they have a right to dictate what gets played Venues are put on by promoters, and DJ lineups chosen to provide the kind of music for the target audience the promoter is aiming at. I don't go to Drax because the promoters aim it squarely at the 'oldie'brigade. Fair enough. I don't go to Hidaway because it is amed at the R&B fraternity, simple. If a venue advertised 'quality 60's 70's and R&B, then I'd go for the 60's & 70's and swich off when the R&B came on, because I knew it was gonna be there, so I've no right to moan about it! Plenty there who would enjoy it, no doubt. Fed up of folk moaning about music policy. Choose the venue that suits your musical taste best, and if it plays summat you don't like, why moan if you knew it was gonna be played in the first place??

As for 'Sins of satan' having 'disco' written on the 12" so what? Does that make all the northern stuff that got released on 'Pye disc demand" disco, 'cos that has disco on the label Joanie Sommers might as well have 'white pop" written on it, but it does'nt stop it being a class northern tune The northen scene has always taken music from diverse genres and made it 'northern'. Hell, there is no real, specific 'northern' genre, it was created by us, the fans!

Edited August 29, 2006 by Trevski

[Guest]

lets not turn this into the usual SSslanging match for once! Original post said they had been to a few venues lately that played 'Disco" I mearly suggested that they go to venues where it is not played. Simple solution really. Don't like 70's and 'disco'? don't go to em! Don't like R&B? dont go to 'em! Don't like played out oldie? don't go to em, simple as that Too many on here slagging off venues playlists like they have a right to dictate what gets played Venues are put on by promoters, and DJ lineups chosen to provide the kind of music for the target audience the promoter is aiming at. I don't go to Drax because the promoters aim it squarely at the 'oldie'brigade. Fair enough. I don't go to Hidaway because it is amed at the R&B fraternity, simple. If a venue advertised 'quality 60's 70's and R&B, then I'd go for the 60's & 70's and swich off when the R&B came on, because I knew it was gonna be there, so I've no right to moan about it! Plenty there who would enjoy it, no doubt. Fed up of folk moaning about music policy. Choose the venue that suits your musical taste best, and if it plays summat you don't like, why moan if you knew it was gonna be played in the first place??

you spelt merely wrong

actually theres not nearly enough "disco" played for me, and actually I do feel that I have the right to dictate to the Djs what to play and quite often do so

but like Trevor said, if you don't like what certain Djs play (the disco offenders in this case were Butch, Soul Sam, Dave Thorley and Cliff Steele) then don't go to rare soul/upfront soul nights or nighters and you won't hear things you don't like

[Guest Trevski]

you spelt merely wrong

Bitch

actually theres not nearly enough "disco" played for me, and actually I do feel that I have the right to dictate to the Djs what to play and quite often do so

but like Trevor said, if you don't like what certain Djs play (the disco offenders in this case were Butch, Soul Sam, Dave Thorley and Cliff Steele) then don't go to rare soul/upfront soul nights or nighters and you won't hear things you don't like

I think Andy D strayed into the 'disco' area too

Mr Thorley, I think it was, actually had the bottle to play Diane Jenkins "I need you" Not heard since the Cleethorpes days, and one I particularly enjoyed. That has FUNK written on the label. New argument anyone??

Edited August 29, 2006 by Trevski

[Pete S]

Pete, as we all know you have a blanket hatred on 70's so I don't think we're going to get much reasoned discussion out of you are we?

And there we have it..."and they were disco. What they were called i have no idea"

I know what i like and I like what I know...even if I dont know what it was...

Why have you put your question to me and then quoted Baz as if it were me replying, apart from to make yourself look a tw*t?

[Soul Shrews]

Disco is in the ear of the beholder.

How about some examples of 'Disco' ?

Down To Love Town? Saturday Night Sunday Morning? It Takes Heart? Ten Percent? Carstairs?? Fantastic Puzzles? Four Below Zero? Or is it all the fantastic fantastic Philly stuff thats suddenly getting attention again because the 'new' 60's stuff is not very good and Deejays are scared to play what are still laughingly called oldies even though they haven't really been THAT played in the past??

Open ears will hear what is and isn't disco, closed ears and the mention of John Travolta maybe won't.

Amen to that Simon, just 'cos its 70's does NOT=DISCO

Will they ever learn? :angry:

Chers Paul Woosnam

[Guest Ranger]

I've been lurking on here fo 6 months and this is my first post so if I c*ck it up be gentle with me. This old chestnut keeps coming back again and again, so a few questions....

Exactly how many 'disco' records does it take to ruin a night out for an oldies fan?

Why isn't The Carstairs a northern record?

Why are some 7ts records accepted by Northern fans and not others?

Is it true that people who accept new types of sounds used to go to Cleethorpes and those who don't used to go to Wigan?

Regards

Kev

[Soul Shrews]

I've been lurking on here fo 6 months and this is my first post so if I c*ck it up be gentle with me. This old chestnut keeps coming back again and again, so a few questions....

Exactly how many 'disco' records does it take to ruin a night out for an oldies fan?

Why isn't The Carstairs a northern record?

Why are some 7ts records accepted by Northern fans and not others?

Is it true that people who accept new types of sounds used to go to Cleethorpes and those who don't used to go to Wigan?

Regards

Kev

Good points Kev.

Like that last line

[soulfulsaint]

the disco offenders in this case were Butch, Soul Sam, Dave Thorley and Cliff Steele

- then don't go to rare soul/upfront soul nights or nighters and you won't hear things you don't like

plus Andy D, and a quick spin for Diane Jenkins - sounds great any playlists please?

[Bazza]

I've been lurking on here fo 6 months and this is my first post so if I c*ck it up be gentle with me. This old chestnut keeps coming back again and again, so a few questions....

Exactly how many 'disco' records does it take to ruin a night out for an oldies fan?

Why isn't The Carstairs a northern record?

Why are some 7ts records accepted by Northern fans and not others?

Is it true that people who accept new types of sounds used to go to Cleethorpes and those who don't used to go to Wigan?

Regards

Kev

Why isn't The Carstairs a northern record?..because it is an over produced 70's tune ..easy.

same goes for "Harold melvin - Prayin"

I am easy to please though..I like 60's and R&B with a bit of modern ,so I am happy to go to most venues( apart from all modern type do's)

BTW I was mostly a cleethorpes pier lad

Bazza

Edited August 29, 2006 by bazza

[Guest Trevski]

I've been lurking on here fo 6 months and this is my first post so if I c*ck it up be gentle with me.

Welcome!

This old chestnut keeps coming back again and again, so a few questions....

Exactly how many 'disco' records does it take to ruin a night out for an oldies fan?

One, if any of the posters on here are owt to go by!

Why isn't The Carstairs a northern record?

Carstairs was the most important 'Crossover' record played IMHO, took the scene by storm, Mecca AND Wigan, and brought 70's releases into the Northern realm. Not Northern? A true 'Northern' classic, in my book!

Why are some 7ts records accepted by Northern fans and not others?

'Cos some have more of a 'Northern' feel I suppose. Personaly, if it's on 7' vinyl, and doesn't go on for over 6mins I'll give it a go!

Is it true that people who accept new types of sounds used to go to Cleethorpes and those who don't used to go to Wigan? No, not particularly, altho' Cleethorpes did feature a lot of 70's releases, whereas Wigan begrudgingly gave some a spin, until Richard put his weight behind 'em. I went to both, and would say, hand on heart, that Cleethorpes was better, IMHO, so draw your own conclusions on that one, you can tell from my posts, where my tastes are

Regards

Kev

Hope that answers your questions!

Edited August 29, 2006 by Trevski

[Soulsmith]

let the discussion begin...

wAvy

The discussion began, then quicky floundered.

I agree with Simon, you need to be more specific.

Ortherwise, as they say in the re-runs "Its all epedemic"

Col.

[Pete S]

Is it true that people who accept new types of sounds used to go to Cleethorpes and those who don't used to go to Wigan?

Regards

Kev

They used to play 90% of the Cleethorpes sounds at Wigan - albeit after they'd broke them first

[Dave Thorley]

I think Andy D strayed into the 'disco' area too

Mr Thorley, I think it was, actually had the bottle to play Diane Jenkins "I need you" Not heard since the Cleethorpes days, and one I particularly enjoyed. That has FUNK written on the label. New argument anyone??

Hi All

It's that revolving door conversation again

But just for the hell of it a reply. As you may see elsewhere my play list from the night

My playlist

The Imagination-Love diet-20th Century

Earnest King-You gonna miss me-LK

The Deep Notes-I betcha'-C/U

The Smith Brothers-There can be a better way-Soul Dimension

Holidays-Without your sweet love-C/U

Eddie Billips & The C.C.C.'S-Shake off that dream-Gar-Pax

The Fabulous Moonlighters-For granted-Blue Eagle

The Manhattans-Crazy-CBS

The Embers-Where did I go wrong-Atlantic

Ron Patterson-Story book-Venice

Ann Sexton-That don't make you a man-C/U

Jimmy Brinson-It's all over girl-Brin

The Trey J's-I found it all in you-Tee Gem

George Perkins-Woman-C/U

Chosen Few-Birth of a playboy-Canyon

Bill Coday-Right on baby-Crajon

The Theo-Coff Invasion-Lucky day-Dearborn

Jimmy & The Shy Guys-Do I love her-C/U

Arthur Prysock, If I was a boy-Bell Sound unreleased

Larry Davis-I've been hurt so many times-Kent

Rare Pleasure-Let me down easy-Cheri

Vicki Williams-Do I make myself clear-Morgan Park

The Precious Three-I need a man-Ref-O-Ree

Ringleaders-Win you over-Studio Disc unreleased

Ortheia Barnes-I've never loved nobody-Coral

Albert Jones-Up to the sun-Bumpshop

Diane Jenkins-I need you-Creative Funk

Three records from the disco era or later, Eddie Billups, Manhattans and Rare Pleasure. All about perception, all three packed the floor, all are stunning soul records, 2 are hard to find, the other a Stafford classic, but becuase this was a rare soul allnighter, I played it on the very rare Dutch picture bag issue . Sheridan's was billed as a rare soul allnighter, thats what I played. That equals 9% modern soul from me, now that is rare. I played a set that respected the venue and it's crowd.

Unlike others, to the string starter I say keep coming, new people and thier varied tastes and opions are what make the scene so vibrant.

But the scene as long as I can remember has always been in evolution, and again one of the resons it's still here and not a dead fond memory, like the 50's Rock & Roll scene, which got hung up on when records were made. Finally yes the scene needs young blood, my son is 15 and my duaghter 23, they are starting to get to like some of it, they will be around when most of us are dead. The stuff they connect with is the 70's onward stuff. Now they are truly the youth of today and have an equally valid view. But all in all if it's soul it's all good. Revolving door conversation. To miss qoute a racist saying from the late 60's/early 70's some of my best friend are 60's soul fans.

Have fun with this string

Edited August 29, 2006 by Dave Thorley

[Guest malayka]

I don't know...somehow this reminds me of " grumpy old man"...why can't we just respect another taste, it's all soul, isn't it, it's all black music, and has a right to exist and to be played...I am only in my late twenties, wasn't around when 6ties popular but love it...nevertheless as far as i know new releases have always been played, strangley enough, I didn't hear any on saturday night...

Malayka

[sepia]

I think Andy D strayed into the 'disco' area too

Mr Thorley, I think it was, actually had the bottle to play Diane Jenkins "I need you" Not heard since the Cleethorpes days, and one I particularly enjoyed. That has FUNK written on the label. New argument anyone??

ive been playing this over the last year.all my m8s love it,we all like 60s/70s/80s/90s/2k.as long as its good.its that easy

[Soul Shrews]

[Dave Thorley]

Nice spot Dave! Was the Diane Jenkins the spoken intro,or the white/with purple lettering promo, or purple silver lettering promo/issue?

Cheers Paul

PS See Diane Jenkins thread

Have been reading it, silver/purple demo

[Soulsmith]

But the scene as long as I can remember has always been in evolution, and again one of the resons it's still here and not a dead fond memory, like the 50's Rock & Roll scene,

Parts of the scene are are hardly evolving at all.

Couple of weeks back I had an interesting chat with one of the scenes top collectors, who I hadn't seen for some time. He said he hadn't been out much 'cos there was nothing much that there was new to miss.

Whilst I was trying to answer that, he said, "imagine what I'd have missed Col, if I'd missed 6 months of the Blackpool Mecca?

Makes you think.

[Soul Shrews]

Have been reading it, silver/purple demo

Just like mine, er....yeehaah!

'Ave you read the Bert deCoteaux thread?

Edited August 29, 2006 by soul shrews

[Bazza]

Why isn't The Carstairs a northern record?

Carstairs was the most important 'Crossover' record played IMHO, took the scene by storm, Mecca AND Wigan, and brought 70's releases into the Northern realm. Not Northern? A true 'Northern' classic, in my book!

Hope that answers your questions!

I got to admit ,I must be missing something with this tune ,I find it a very average modern type tune....never could understand how it got to be so big ....and very very overplayed

it will never be northern ..will always be modern if I live another 20 year it will still be modern then

Bazza

Edited August 29, 2006 by bazza

[Soul Shrews]

I think Andy D strayed into the 'disco' area too

Mr Thorley, I think it was, actually had the bottle to play Diane Jenkins "I need you" Not heard since the Cleethorpes days, and one I particularly enjoyed. That has FUNK written on the label. New argument anyone??

Also has CREATIVE written on the label, Trevski. New argument anyone???

Cheers Paco

[Peter]

A few pennyworth from me, I cut my teeth at the Casino and The Mecca, Manchester Ritz and enjoyed/enjoy sounds from each venue.

Some of my favourtie "Disco" tracks are (but I would not define them as Disco, just good dance records but would define something like Evelyn Thomas's HIgh Energy as DIsco).

El Coco Cocomotion.

Wilbert Longmire Black Is The Colour.

Charles Earland Let the Music Play and Over And Over.

CJ & Co Devils Gun.

Fat Larrys Band Center City.

Jones Girls NIghts Over Egypt

Kaygees Kilowatt

Brainstorm Lovin Is Really My Game

Pete

Edited August 29, 2006 by Peter

[Soul Shrews]

A few pennyworth from me, I cut my teeth at the Casino and The Mecca, Manchester Ritz and enjoyed/enjoy sounds from each venue.

Some of my favourtie "Disco" tracks are (but I would not define them as Disco, just good dance records but would define something like Evelyn Thomas's HIgh Energy as DIsco).

El Coco Cocomotion.

Wilbert Longmire Black Is The Colour.

Charles Earland Let the Music Play and Over And Over.

CJ & Co Devils Gun.

Fat Larrys Band Center City.

Jones Girls NIghts Over Egypt

Kaygees Kilowatt

Brainstorm Lovin Is Really My Game

Pete

Nice selection Pete, agree with all those except Brainstorm was a played out Wigan oldie

"Wake Up And Be Somebody"........now yer talkin'!!

Cheers Paul Woosnam

[Dave Thorley]

Nice selection Pete, agree with all those except Brainstorm was a played out Wigan oldie

"Wake Up And Be Somebody"........now yer talkin'!!

Cheers Paul Woosnam

Or even 'We're on are way home'

[Soul Shrews]

Or even 'We're on are way home'

I am 'ome

Yep go along with "We're..." too

but I would call it "We're on our way home" mate

Edited August 29, 2006 by soul shrews

[Epic]

Hold my hands up time chaps. It has finally dawned upon me - every soul record made before December 31st 1969 is utterly brilliant. Anything after that is disco cr*p.

Must be in a minority though as the biggest floorfiller in the last 2-3 years has been "Are You Ready For This" - The Brothers. Now when was that recorded?

Those naughty people up The Highland Room in the mid seventies have got a lot to answer for.

[Guest Baz]

Hold my hands up time chaps. It has finally dawned upon me - every soul record made before December 31st 1969 is utterly brilliant. Anything after that is disco cr*p.

Whos ever said that???

[Guest realsoulfan]

I got to admit ,I must be missing something with this tune ,I find it a very average modern type tune....never could understand how it got to be so big ....and very very overplayed

it will never be northern ..will always be modern if I live another 20 year it will still be modern then

Bazza

So most of the 70's stuff played at wigan including these are modern records not oldies ?

Benny Troy I want to give you Tommorrow

MVP's Turning My heartbeat up

Eloise Laws love factory

Sister Sledge don't go through no changes

James Fountain Seven day lover

Reggie Garner Hotline

The list is endless but i'm sure these are more recognised as Northern Soul than Modern

[Soul Shrews]

Whos ever said that???

Er.....Epic, just now.

[Dave Thorley]

I am 'ome

Yep go along with "We're..." too

but I would call it "We're on our way home" mate

You've got me

[Soul Shrews]

You've got me

That'll be a first then!

Cheers Paco

Er, I mean that really will be a first!

And probably the last!

Edited August 29, 2006 by soul shrews

[Guest dundeedavie]

Whos ever said that???

quite right baz , not even me ...three of my alltime fave tunes are

gerri grainger - i go to pieces

dusty springfield - haunted

carl douglas - i want to give you my everything

[Guest Ranger]

Must admit that the questions I asked earlier were slightly tongue in cheek. Interesting replies though, but probably for debate on another thread. The point someone mentioned earlier about Evolution is the important one. Over the years the scene has developed through some pretty clearly defined eras where, due to the policies of key venues, the music has developed. It's my view that we're in another transitional period and some things will work and some won't. The worst thing that could happen is that nostalgia rules and we refuse to listen to new things. There's a time and a place for everything as well as a balance to be struck, but I'd rather be given the opportunity to make up my own mind on something I hadn't heard before than have to listen to Come On Train again (unless I've had a few Stellas when Don would win hands down )

Kev

[Guest Baz]

Er.....Epic, just now.

Its just another soulier than thou post IMO.

its always the same the 'all era loving' look down on those who are predominantly 60's based soul lovers, me i do like 70's but some of the 'disco' that is spun is usless and thats my opinion, so on a forum all about opinions on the 'northern' scene i voice that opinion, makes me laugh when you get the preachers telling you to open your minds/ears and love soul music, well heres news i do, but i like what i like and disco is tripe! oh im a poet too

now dont get me wrong here but some one realatively new to the scene, has gone to a couple of do's and noticed that there was a bit too much disco played, not all the 70's but some of it, now that speaks volumes to me!

Yes some of them fill the floor thats great, but no one excepts that what we are clearly hearing is disco, people may find it hard to see, because they think they are soul fans (and yes they are still soul fans) but just because its spun at a progressive venue, dont mean it is soul.....

I can admit i like some 60's sounds that aren't proper soul records, bont bother me how much soul a record has got as long as i like it.

[KevH]

Must admit that the questions I asked earlier were slightly tongue in cheek. Interesting replies though, but probably for debate on another thread. The point someone mentioned earlier about Evolution is the important one. Over the years the scene has developed through some pretty clearly defined eras where, due to the policies of key venues, the music has developed. It's my view that we're in another transitional period and some things will work and some won't. The worst thing that could happen is that nostalgia rules and we refuse to listen to new things. There's a time and a place for everything as well as a balance to be struck, but I'd rather be given the opportunity to make up my own mind on something I hadn't heard before than have to listen to Come On Train again (unless I've had a few Stellas when Don would win hands down )

Kev

hi,remember going to Wigan one night straight down from the Mecca, Ian Levine did a guest spot and played Ann Sexton , Voices of East Harlem, Mel Britt, and i think Herbert Hunter. Cleared the dancefloor, cos he was from the Mecca. Funny how some people consider these sounds as Wigan Classics now, as they say , you had to be there.....Kev.