Frankie Crocker Posted April 10, 2015 Posted April 10, 2015 Currently three copies of Dearly Beloved in the most viewed listing. Countless copies, amongst his other releases, spanning nearly 20 pages on Popsike. Could this be the most frequently auctioned Northern record or are there others that have been put up for bids more often? 1
Steve G Posted April 10, 2015 Posted April 10, 2015 Great record but not in the slightest bit rare. They pressed up loads thinking they had a hit record. 3
Popular Post KevH Posted April 10, 2015 Popular Post Posted April 10, 2015 "Do you believe it" was the side to have once upon a time. 4
Frankie Crocker Posted April 10, 2015 Author Posted April 10, 2015 Two great sides and a must for all good collections. Evidently sold a lot back in the day and was well played judging from the condition that many turn up in.
Popular Post Chalky Posted April 10, 2015 Popular Post Posted April 10, 2015 Begs the question why so many keep paying so much for a record when in comparison to others is pretty common. It should be in the 30/40 quid bracket. 8
Dave Pinch Posted April 10, 2015 Posted April 10, 2015 ruby andrews.. just loving you and garland green.. girl i love you on revue are others... what quality tho 2
Swifty Posted April 10, 2015 Posted April 10, 2015 ruby andrews.. just loving you and garland green.. girl i love you on revue are others... what quality tho That answers a little question I was going to ask ages ago as to why most copies of the above and Jack Montgomery are usually trashed , never thought it could be that there were loads out there in normal collections and were hammered lol Swifty 1
Winsford Soul Posted April 10, 2015 Posted April 10, 2015 (edited) That answers a little question I was going to ask ages ago as to why most copies of the above and Jack Montgomery are usually trashed , never thought it could be that there were loads out there in normal collections and were hammered lol Swifty Swifty. My old Garland Green revue demo was a minter mate Steve Edited April 10, 2015 by Winsford Soul 2
Popular Post Dave Pinch Posted April 10, 2015 Popular Post Posted April 10, 2015 i had clean copies of them all.... lots of nice copies about...just lots of beaters too 4
Benji Posted April 10, 2015 Posted April 10, 2015 JM is just 100% pure quality. Vocals, production, backing, everything just perfect. That's probably why so many want a copy. basic formula: demand > supply -> $$$$$$$$ 2
Popular Post Dobber Posted April 10, 2015 Popular Post Posted April 10, 2015 id say is barracuda 45 was his rarest 'dont turn your back on me' and for me his finest,production and vocal on that is outstanding! 6
Still Diggin Posted April 10, 2015 Posted April 10, 2015 Begs the question why so many keep paying so much for a record when in comparison to others is pretty common. It should be in the 30/40 quid bracket. Belita Woods 'Magic corner was another one , used to be on ebay every week, usually trashed from the same old stocks with no sleeves. and yet people still keep shelling out for them. Maybe some folks only look on an occasional basis or just don't get it!. 2
Frankie Crocker Posted April 11, 2015 Author Posted April 11, 2015 That answers a little question I was going to ask ages ago as to why most copies of the above and Jack Montgomery are usually trashed , never thought it could be that there were loads out there in normal collections and were hammered lol Swifty May well have been a party record back in the day. Lots of Chicago collections coming to market show considerable ring-wear suggesting the records were spread out on the floor around the record player and were swirled around as punters picked the next play. I'm in Texas at present, in and out of antique malls, and seeing plenty of those old wire toast-rack type record holders that must have damaged so many records filed without sleeves. 1
Frankie Crocker Posted April 11, 2015 Author Posted April 11, 2015 id say is barracuda 45 was his rarest 'dont turn your back on me' and for me his finest,production and vocal on that is outstanding! Agreed and hugely underpriced but fetching decent money on the rare occasions it comes to market. Great flip as well. 2
Popular Post Labeat Posted April 11, 2015 Popular Post Posted April 11, 2015 id say is barracuda 45 was his rarest 'dont turn your back on me' and for me his finest,production and vocal on that is outstanding! For serious Soul lovers they don't come much finer than this cut 5
Chalky Posted April 11, 2015 Posted April 11, 2015 JM is just 100% pure quality. Vocals, production, backing, everything just perfect. That's probably why so many want a copy. basic formula: demand > supply -> $$$$$$$$ Supply is there though, it is up for sale somewhere just about everyday. 1
Amsterdam Russ Posted April 11, 2015 Posted April 11, 2015 Currently three copies of Dearly Beloved in the most viewed listing. Countless copies, amongst his other releases, spanning nearly 20 pages on Popsike. Could this be the most frequently auctioned Northern record or are there others that have been put up for bids more often? Eddie Holman "I surrender" has got to be up there. Must be something like three copies a week going through eBay for the last year or more and the price just keeps going higher and higher. Thought it expensive at £30 a couple of years ago but in recent times it's going for triple that - and that's the ABC issue! 2
Chris L Posted April 11, 2015 Posted April 11, 2015 Of course you can always $450.00 for a copy................................ https://www.ebay.com/itm/Jack-Montgomery-Dearly-Beloved-Misprint-Scepter-12152-M-Northern-Soul-Hear-It-/361227405558?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item541ad4c8f6 1
Labeat Posted April 11, 2015 Posted April 11, 2015 Supply is there though, it is up for sale somewhere just about everyday. Thats right, and in the 80's & 90's was there another record that got played more? 2
KevH Posted April 11, 2015 Posted April 11, 2015 (edited) Supply is there though, it is up for sale somewhere just about everyday. There was a quantity at vallances in mansfield when they closed. re: Dont turn your back on me. Edited April 11, 2015 by KevH 2
Chalky Posted April 11, 2015 Posted April 11, 2015 Thats right, and in the 80's & 90's was there another record that got played more? By Jack? "Baby, Baby take A Chance On Me"? That is what I was playing late 80's early 90's at Tracky, Hollingwood etc. 2
Popular Post Philt Posted April 11, 2015 Popular Post Posted April 11, 2015 (edited) By Jack? "Baby, Baby take A Chance On Me"? That is what I was playing late 80's early 90's at Tracky, Hollingwood etc. Absolutely fantastic record! Used to be about £15 really well spent. Don't Turn your back is absolute magic but one of the many great, downbeat things there doesn't appear to be a real place on 'the scene' for nowadays it seems; its poorer for that too IMHO. Edited April 11, 2015 by PhilT 8
Bo Diddley Posted April 11, 2015 Posted April 11, 2015 . Don't Turn your back is absolute magic but one of the many great, downbeat things there doesn't appear to be a real place on 'the scene' for nowadays it seems; its poorer for that too IMHO. Agreed. With the bonus of the Honeybees instrumental on the B side. 1
Garethx Posted April 11, 2015 Posted April 11, 2015 Thing to bear in mind with the Scepter 45 is that mint copies were priced at ten quid on Soul Bowl when not much else around in that quantity was. It seemed to be priced on quality rather than availability—it's a stone classic and will always sell. Also worth noting that there are a few variants. Demos from at least three plants plus issues from at least as many sources plus the variations of the title. 2
grant Posted April 11, 2015 Posted April 11, 2015 Absolutely fantastic record! Used to be about £15 really well spent. Don't Turn your back is absolute magic but one of the many great, downbeat things there doesn't appear to be a real place on 'the scene' for nowadays it seems; its poorer for that too IMHO. I still play Don't Turn Your Back Phil out and about occassionally, usually my last record but leaves it difficult for someone to follow lol 1
Chalky Posted April 11, 2015 Posted April 11, 2015 (edited) Thing to bear in mind with the Scepter 45 is that mint copies were priced at ten quid on Soul Bowl when not much else around in that quantity was. It seemed to be priced on quality rather than availability—it's a stone classic and will always sell. Also worth noting that there are a few variants. Demos from at least three plants plus issues from at least as many sources plus the variations of the title. I don't think or I haven't seen anyone knocking the quality, Jack Montgomery hasn't done a bad record really. I can think of quality records that sell for less that are just as if not rarer than JM. Edited April 11, 2015 by chalky 1
Frankie Crocker Posted April 11, 2015 Author Posted April 11, 2015 Thanks for all the comments.. Keep'em coming. Just about to fly from Austin to Chicago with a small box of goodies so looking forward to picking up on this in London tomorrow.
Labeat Posted April 11, 2015 Posted April 11, 2015 (edited) By Jack? "Baby, Baby take A Chance On Me"? That is what I was playing late 80's early 90's at Tracky, Hollingwood etc. Sorry, i actually meant "any" record, just about heard it everywhere (scepter) Edited April 11, 2015 by Labeat
Labeat Posted April 11, 2015 Posted April 11, 2015 Thanks for all the comments.. Keep'em coming. Just about to fly from Austin to Chicago with a small box of goodies so looking forward to picking up on this in London tomorrow. You go to the record fair? it got cancelled last year. Do let us know how it went, what was available, dealers etc
Mal C Posted April 11, 2015 Posted April 11, 2015 (edited) I don't think or I haven't seen anyone knocking the quality, Jack Montgomery hasn't done a bad record really. I can think of quality records that sell for less that are just as if not rarer than JM. the only one I've let go was 'Beauty Isn't Born', remember getting very excited about it, only to decide it's his worst record, its nice and all that, but its a forgettable song.. that said the bar was always right at the top wasn't it... always thought of him on a par with Bobby reed, both didnt relase much, but 3/4 45's they did are right up there... and both have a lesser track here and there.....I wonder, somebody must have discovered other tracks he (JM) recorded but never came out? mal Edited April 11, 2015 by Mal C 1
Labeat Posted April 11, 2015 Posted April 11, 2015 Jack Montgomery & Jimmy Ricks..... very similar, very talented 1
MrsWoodsrules Posted April 12, 2015 Posted April 12, 2015 Belita Woods 'Magic corner was another one , used to be on ebay every week, usually trashed from the same old stocks with no sleeves. and yet people still keep shelling out for them. Maybe some folks only look on an occasional basis or just don't get it!. Funny that, thought about Belita Woods when reading down this thread before I seen your post. Always seemed to be trashed too. Great tune though. 1
Upthejunction Posted April 12, 2015 Posted April 12, 2015 Is the JM "Dear Beloved" a little rarer or not ??? 1
bri pinch Posted April 12, 2015 Posted April 12, 2015 There was a quantity at vallances in mansfield when they closed. re: Dont turn your back on me. Yeah..remember Graham Williamson from Rawmarsh had dozens of em tucked away in the early 90t's 1
Reforee Posted April 13, 2015 Posted April 13, 2015 the only one I've let go was 'Beauty Isn't Born', remember getting very excited about it, only to decide it's his worst record, its nice and all that, but its a forgettable song.. that said the bar was always right at the top wasn't it... always thought of him on a par with Bobby reed, both didnt relase much, but 3/4 45's they did are right up there... and both have a lesser track here and there.....I wonder, somebody must have discovered other tracks he (JM) recorded but never came out? mal Beauty Isn't Born has been a big fave at Soul Essence for its sheer Soul quality, it doesn't have to be 100 miles an hour to be ranked as good surely ? I have a recording in the same style as "Beauty isn't Born" titled "It's just a miracle" that was credited to JM but I have never been able to qualify that, but whenever I have played it's been well recieved just like "Beauty" In my opinion all JMs releases are quality! to to my knowledge he only had 4 releases and there must be something somewhere.....we can live in hope. Dave 2
Frankie Crocker Posted April 13, 2015 Author Posted April 13, 2015 Nice copy on auction with 7 hours to go and nudging $300 - looks a beaut in it's company sleeve, mint and unplayed until sampled for the soundbite. Sadly for Jack, the drill hole goes through his name - would this put buyers off? Weird that this release sold plenty of copies, but this one was consigned to the fate of the BB gun. Hope it finds a good home.
Frankie Crocker Posted April 13, 2015 Author Posted April 13, 2015 You go to the record fair? it got cancelled last year. Do let us know how it went, what was available, dealers etc PM'd you...no Record Show again this Easter.
25miles Posted April 14, 2015 Posted April 14, 2015 Yeah..remember Graham Williamson from Rawmarsh had dozens of em tucked away in the early 90t's BIG GRAHAM.............WHAT A GUY !!......... 1
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