Quinvy Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 I used to buy and trade records with him in the seventies, and I heard stories about him being involved in bootlegging some northern records. Anyone know his story?
Arthur Fenn Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 great dealer & nice guy, had super stuf off him in the mid 70's inc the first real Four Perfections ( $5 ). I'm sure all the tracks he did were legit tho, big buddie with JA
Swifty Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 I used to buy and trade records with him in the seventies, and I heard stories about him being involved in bootlegging some northern records. Anyone know his story? I had some stuff off him late 70's , early 80's I think , must have seen an advert in something and think I got a list (sorry was that long ago ) but remember getting a couple or three copies of the Cassanova Two - Early Bird White demos - Mint (suspect I believe ) looked good then though. Sorry not much help I know Was he based in California ? Swifty
Chalky Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 He did the coloured and mutli-coloured boots of the likes of Eddie Foster and Sam Fletcher amongst others.
sir cumference Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 He was a good source of stuff in 70`s.Mickie Champion,plus others mentioned. Used to advertise :Daly City,California. 1
Neil Rushton Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 Got loads of stuff from Bob including the first copy in the UK of The Inspirations "No One Else Can Take Your Place", the first copies of Marvin Holmes "You Better Keep Her", quantity of Celeste Hardie "You're Gone" and 100's of Don Thomas "Come On Train" and many I copy only of various originals. Oh and quantity of the Johnny Baker 45's too. Went to visit him in Daly City in between seeing Soussan in LA.
Guest Ivor Jones Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 post-225-0-37400500-1364679985.pngpost-225-0-41964400-1364680164.jpg Kinnell ! That Sam Fletcher would bring on a migraine if you watch it spinning round !
SHEFFSOUL Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 great dealer & nice guy, had super stuf off him in the mid 70's inc the first real Four Perfections ( $5 ). I'm sure all the tracks he did were legit tho, big buddie with JA not so sure they were all legit...i bought a copy of the Jades via his postal address in Daly City..supposedly original, $35 on REE..which i sent him via an international money order,he also listed Danny Monday also a boot i believe, plus others of the time..probably just before Ian D went to the US as he put me onto him...
Paul R Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 Wasn't he responsible for the Carstairs Red Coach issues. Just something I remember from back then. Paul
Rick Cooper Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 Wasn't he responsible for the Carstairs Red Coach issues. Just something I remember from back then. Paul Paul No, I was . Posted the story on a previous Carstairs thread some years back. I dealt with Bob and got some great stuff from him including a Carstairs demo just after Ian L started playing it. Still got some of his letters and lists , will dig them out . Accused him of bootlegging Casanova Two and he was very indignant so he may have got it done legit . Rick
Paul R Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 Paul No, I was . Posted the story on a previous Carstairs thread some years back. I dealt with Bob and got some great stuff from him including a Carstairs demo just after Ian L started playing it. Still got some of his letters and lists , will dig them out . Accused him of bootlegging Casanova Two and he was very indignant so he may have got it done legit . Rick Sorry about that Rick. I was either told it or remembered it incorrectly. Was that when you were at Global? Paul
Rick Cooper Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 Sorry about that Rick. I was either told it or remembered it incorrectly. Was that when you were at Global? Paul Paul Yes, at Global. Bob Cataneo may have been blamed for the Carstairs demo bootleg but I have never heard that and wouldn't suggest he did them. Someone once told me Bob was obsessed with security at his home and had installed heavy doors and multiple locks, anyone confirm this? Rick
Ian Dewhirst Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 Paul Yes, at Global. Bob Cataneo may have been blamed for the Carstairs demo bootleg but I have never heard that and wouldn't suggest he did them. Someone once told me Bob was obsessed with security at his home and had installed heavy doors and multiple locks, anyone confirm this? Rick I went round to his place in '76 but didn't notice any undue security. Nice guy who they called 'Disco Bob' over there. He did seem to disappear from view quite quickly, so I always wondered what happened to him....? Ian D
Quinvy Posted April 9, 2015 Author Posted April 9, 2015 Thank you all for the input. Sounds like he isn't known these days? I only dealt with him through letters, but I liked the guy very much.
Popular Post Dave Thorley Posted April 10, 2015 Popular Post Posted April 10, 2015 I remember Bob having a shit load of The California Playboys LP, back in the day, late 70's must have got 10 from him to sell on. He also had a fair few Ty Karim - Lightin' up, which I bought 10 of also, only to receive them and find it was the 70's version. Ended up giving most of them away, as no one wanted them then. 4
Dave Thorley Posted April 10, 2015 Posted April 10, 2015 Also think had a tie up with Harold Andrews and was involved in some of his releases
John Benson Posted April 10, 2015 Posted April 10, 2015 He also had a fair few Ty Karim - Lightin' up, which I bought 10 of also, only to receive them and find it was the 70's version. Ended up giving most of them away, as no one wanted them then. That was bad luck eh - a pity you didn't have a crystal ball at the time. 1
Rick Cooper Posted April 16, 2015 Posted April 16, 2015 Wasn't he responsible for the Carstairs Red Coach issues. Just something I remember from back then. Paul Paul Just found this letter from Bob Cattaneo which explains your Carstairs bootleg memory. He seems to think it was OK to sell the Carstairs and Servicemen boots as long as he didn't actually arrange the pressings. The Casanova Two record he claims were not boots were the very thin demos which he possibly could have got done by Early Bird, but who knows. Rick 1
Rick Cooper Posted April 16, 2015 Posted April 16, 2015 Here are some of Bob's lists When I first bought from him he got records from my wants list but later stopped this and issued his sales lists. I think he must have built up quite a big stock and knew what prices to ask. Later on he had to get rid of his bulk titles and issued a sale list. I got some of these from him but I think Neil Rushton bought a lot from him. The "C Hardie" is Celeste Hardie and were 50p each. Rick
Robbk Posted April 17, 2015 Posted April 17, 2015 (edited) Paul Yes, at Global. Bob Cataneo may have been blamed for the Carstairs demo bootleg but I have never heard that and wouldn't suggest he did them. Someone once told me Bob was obsessed with security at his home and had installed heavy doors and multiple locks, anyone confirm this? Rick I went to his house many times, and don't remember any special security. His name is spelt : "Cattaneo" (Italian). Edited April 17, 2015 by RobbK
Paul R Posted April 17, 2015 Posted April 17, 2015 Paul Just found this letter from Bob Cattaneo which explains your Carstairs bootleg memory. He seems to think it was OK to sell the Carstairs and Servicemen boots as long as he didn't actually arrange the pressings. The Casanova Two record he claims were not boots were the very thin demos which he possibly could have got done by Early Bird, but who knows. Rick bob c letter 001.jpg Thanks for that Rick. It's amazing what I can remember from 40 years ago. The rumour was certainly a strong one. Paul
Rick Cooper Posted April 17, 2015 Posted April 17, 2015 I went to his house many times, and don't remember any special security. His name is spelt : "Cattaneo" (Italian). Rob (or should that be Robb) Your mate Rod S told me this but I've obviously got the wrong name so it could be C.... or maybe M..... Rick
Modernsoulsucks Posted April 17, 2015 Posted April 17, 2015 No I don't remember telling you that Rick but I did go there with Mark Edmund in 1980 and it could be that I did notice that and told you but have forgotten since. What I do remember is arriving with Mark [who knew him better than I did] and chatting generally in front room. Then a knock on the door. He came back with two "heavies" and looking agitated. I just thought they looked like the "mob". He ushered us downstairs to large basement and remained upstairs with them for quite a while. Once he rejoined us, him and Mark went off out of my sight whilst I looked. I could hear them and picked up on a lot of snuffling and snorting. I was familiar obviously with speed but had not come across cocaine use up until then. From talking to Mark afterward, I concluded he was into coke and maybe owed the guys who turned up. So maybe he did have security that I've now forgotten about. I did hear he disappeared for a while some time after. ROD
Rick Cooper Posted April 17, 2015 Posted April 17, 2015 No I don't remember telling you that Rick but I did go there with Mark Edmund in 1980 and it could be that I did notice that and told you but have forgotten since. What I do remember is arriving with Mark [who knew him better than I did] and chatting generally in front room. Then a knock on the door. He came back with two "heavies" and looking agitated. I just thought they looked like the "mob". He ushered us downstairs to large basement and remained upstairs with them for quite a while. Once he rejoined us, him and Mark went off out of my sight whilst I looked. I could hear them and picked up on a lot of snuffling and snorting. I was familiar obviously with speed but had not come across cocaine use up until then. From talking to Mark afterward, I concluded he was into coke and maybe owed the guys who turned up. So maybe he did have security that I've now forgotten about. I did hear he disappeared for a while some time after. ROD Rod Thanks for that , so I've not completely lost the plot even if the details are a little hazy now. The letters I got from Bob did go on at length not unlike some all nighter patrons ! Rick
Picky Posted April 21, 2015 Posted April 21, 2015 (edited) When I was studying at Berkeley in 76, I used to visit him every week to buy 45s and LPs. His girl friend, Rita and her son, Steve were living with him at the time. After I came back to Japan, Bob was sending me about 200 copies of new released 45s to me every month. He had to give up a dealer/collector due to the fact that someone stole his inventories on the shelves while he was in a trip to buy records. At that time, his girl friend and son had already left him, so no one was in his house. He wrote a letter to me like that. After he gave up the dealer/collector, he became a track driver. I only know of his story until this and do not know where he is now. As far as I remember, there was no such special security at that time. Edited April 21, 2015 by picky 1
Gene-r Posted April 21, 2015 Posted April 21, 2015 (edited) This thread may be of interest. It suggests the Bob Cattaneo passed away in the mid 2000s. There's also a very small imput from Robb K. https://soulfuldetroit.com/showthread.php?8389-Does-anyone-know-the-whereabouts-of-Bob-Cattaneo-formerly-of-Daly-City-CA Edited April 21, 2015 by Gene-R
Funky 4 Corners Posted April 29, 2015 Posted April 29, 2015 Did a bit on my blog about Bob. https://www.groovesvilleusa.com/blog/?p=1681 1
Eddie Hubbard Posted April 29, 2015 Posted April 29, 2015 I remember Bob having a shit load of The California Playboys LP, back in the day, late 70's must have got 10 from him to sell on. He also had a fair few Ty Karim - Lightin' up, which I bought 10 of also, only to receive them and find it was the 70's version. Ended up giving most of them away, as no one wanted them then. I had a Ty Karim off you at Stafford for £5 , resold it though for same price after realising it wasn't the faster version .How the hell could I have done that ,I must be mad... 1 1
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