Ray Agee,are There Any Playable On Original Label

[Bazza]

Was Soultown the original label , I'm losing again ,great record 

 

Bazza 

Edited April 1, 2015 by Bazza

[Ted Massey]

Yes

[Guest]

Didn`t know they were un-playable. There was one a few years ago with a chipped edge and a crack,£600 or so!

Edited April 1, 2015 by Guest

[Bazza]

Didn`t know they were un-playable. There was one a few years ago with a chipped edge and a crack,£600 or so!

I heard the were only a couple known, both buggered could be wrong tho

 

Bazza 

 

Missed you post Ted

Edited April 1, 2015 by Bazza

[sir cumference]

Thought that there were a few about,myself.I mean not a lot!

 

At least one on Manship(while ago).

 

Plus,the usual suspects playing out-what would they play them on if not Soultown-a carver?

 

I thought that Soultown was the original?

[Chalky]

Quite a few about. Think Kitch said he's had 5 copies.

[Guest]

Thought that there were a few about,myself.I mean not a lot!

 

At least one on Manship(while ago).

 

Plus,the usual suspects playing out-what would they play them on if not Soultown-a carver?

 

I thought that Soultown was the original?

That`s the only label!

[Julianb]

I have a minter

[Prophonics 2029]

I thought it was an early date like 1965.

[Gene-r]

I thought it was an early date like 1965.

 

The number, S-104, seems to date its release at October 1967.  Quite possibly an earlier recording?

Edited April 2, 2015 by Gene-R

[Kegsy]

Thought that there were a few about,myself.I mean not a lot!

 

At least one on Manship(while ago).

 

Plus,the usual suspects playing out-what would they play them on if not Soultown-a carver?.

 

I thought that Soultown was the original?

 

I'm actually quite surprised this record didn't turn up

on Bradford Market back in the day.

 

Quite a few Soultown stuff McKinley Travis (2 titles) , Little Helen (2 maybe 3 titles) and yes even The Sweets were on

there, I don't remember anybody ever getting a Ray Agee, am I wrong though ?.

 

Just seems strange, if most of the label's output was on there but not that one.

Edited April 2, 2015 by Kegsy

[Bazza]

Well ,I think there is some doubt as to whether Soultown was the first release of this,I can't back that up tho ?

 

Bazza 

[Kegsy]

ooops wrong subject

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[KevH]

Well ,I think there is some doubt as to whether Soultown was the first release of this,I can't back that up tho ?

 

Bazza 

 

Whats the suggested alternative Bazza.?

[Bazza]

Kev I can't remember ,I was only half taking notice when I heard this and it was a while ago

 

Bazza

[KevH]

Kev I can't remember ,I was only half taking notice when I heard this and it was a while ago

 

Bazza

 

I'm guessing Krafton was mentioned.?

[Pete S]

Because Ray Agee said he had no memory of recording it, some people said it was actually a tailor made, can you believe that?

I sold a cracked one for £1500 in 2002.

[Md Records]

I've posted this before, but in respect of Ray Agee, he signed up for Sherman and Ann Coleman's Soultown/Celeste/Coleman set up around 1964, leaving about 1966 to go to Brandin records, so the disc COULD have come out after then, WITHOUT his knowledge OR permission, and could have been a disc scheduled for the celeste label. As far as Ray Agee having no knowledge of the disc, I think with an output of material that started in 1952 for Modern records, and recording for at least 20 labels his memory of specific tracks could be excused, especially if he didn't know they had been released and the fog of time compounded by him not leading an "austere" lifestyle,. All speculation of course, but certainly more plausible than it being a reissue for the Northern scene. I remember Bobby Fulton playing me two "unreleased" tracks by "Little Dooley" that he had cut called "Memories" and "It's Got To Be Now Or Never" and having to break the news to him that they had been issued TWICE on "Red Ruby" and "North Bay"

 

Des

[Tony Smith]

I have a minter

And me 

[Guest briktf]

Didn`t know they were un-playable. There was one a few years ago with a chipped edge and a crack,£600 or so!

That was mine, played all the way through . Lost first ten seconds or so though

[Guest chorleybloke]

I have a minter

Now now stop showboating Julian

[Frankie Crocker]

Am after a minter but awaiting retirement pension pot. Butch has a copy. Tony Smith #1 has one also as he confirmed earlier - Kenny Burrell tried to buy it but Tony knows his records... John Manship has sold two copies in the last 15 years or so. Nancy from Long Beach sold hers shortly after the recent Manship sale. The few copies that exist play OK apart from the chipped one so there is no quality-control issue with this release. As mentioned on a similar thread in the last couple of years, the record sounds a bit like Ray's 'Hard Workin' Man' on Jewel but is infinitely better than this RnB number.

[Quinvy]

I think the OP needs to give up the drugs.

 

Plenty of copies about. And quite a few minty ones. 

 

There's very few truly rare records. The Internet has made that very obvious.

[Tony Smith]

So true!

[Chalky]

I thought Bobby Sanders was involved or owned Soultown?  Barrie Waddington met Ray's manager Jerry White and he was adamant that Ray Agee never recorded for Soultown when Barrie show him the 45.  Barrie also said he got to visit one of the Soultown offices, closed down and left in a hurry. Ray Agee said pretty much the same to someone who met him as well.

Edited April 3, 2015 by chalky

[Bazza]

I think the OP needs to give up the drugs.

 

Plenty of copies about. And quite a few minty ones. 

 

There's very few truly rare records. The Internet has made that very obvious.

Quinvy ,I think you're a cheeky twat !

 

Bazza 

[Quinvy]

Quinvy ,I think you're a cheeky twat !

 

Bazza 

It was said light heartedly, no need to take offence.