Why I Was Wrong About The Scene?

[soulfulsaint]

In the high Mecca era in mid '70s I made the mistake of believing that the greatest Sixties Soul records had already been 'discovered' and played and the obvious logic was pursuing new rare soul. How wrong was that? Over the next twenty years I heard great sixties that I'd never heard before, yet still loved and yearned for modern soul.

Everyone on this site, without exception, has made mistakes.

Maybe it was discounting modern records that are actually brilliant soul records. Or under-pricing very rare records you can't get your hands on now. Or under-valuing Motown and then hearing a killer sound. Maybe it was disssing a DJ who then played a blinding set. Or initially hating a venue that went on to become part of your life. Maybe it was thinking that the UK is king and when you went abroad you fell in love with a new scene.

God, I even moved south to London in the 80s and discovered the 100 Club. Admitting that London could deliver a rare soul club was hard but, I had to admit it.

What were you wrong about?

[Soul Shrews]

[quote name='soulfulsaint' date='Aug 27 2006, 12:55 AM' post='33

Everyone on this site, without exception, has made mistakes

What were you wrong about?

[Guest Dodger]

When I first started DJ'ing seriously about 10-12 years ago I thought all you had to do was do good sets and you'd get invited to DJ all over the place. How wrong is that!!!!!

[bri pinch]

funny that dodge.. no truer words have ever been spoken.

best regards, bri.

[Little-stevie]

My freind told me a short while ago about people thinking we were one big family and all looked after each other ....How wrong he was...There are many good people out there on the scene but also plenty of the other type also ..Over the last 20 odd years i had a great time just going to events as a punter with mates,i did not know the promoters/djs or main players really,just paid my cash and danced away....Since i have started to promote nights and be more in touch with other promoters/dj etc i have seen the underworld of lying/cheating/two faced back stabbing and lots lots more,promoters and djs drinking and chatting with each other and then calling each other cu"ts and trying to do each other over..You may think its the Sunday morning blues but i'm sad to say i been thinking this for a long long time...Like i said,plenty good folk out there and lets hope they win through or we all lose...Stick to the dancefloor and away from the dark corners

Lets hope i'm more upbeat after some more sleep...

Have a good bank holiday folks ...

Edited August 27, 2006 by little-stevie

[Winsford Soul]

My freind told me a short while ago about people thinking we were one big family and all looked after each other ....How wrong he was...There are many good people out there on the scene but also plenty of the other type also ..Over the last 20 odd years i had a great time just going to events as a punter with mates,i did not know the promoters/djs or main players really,just paid my cash and danced away....Since i have started to promote nights and be more in touch with other promoters/dj etc i have seen the underworld of lying/cheating/two faced back stabbing and lots lots more,promoters and djs drinking and chatting with each other and then calling each other cu"ts and trying to do each other over..You may think its the Sunday morning blues but i'm sad to say i been thinking this for a long long time...Like i said,plenty good folk out there and lets hope they win through or we all lose...Stick to the dancefloor and away from the dark corners

Lets hope i'm more upbeat after some more sleep...

Have a good bank holiday folks ...

Steve. How true your words are. I became invovled with promoting Winsford about two and a half years back and having been around on the scene thirty odd years i thought i was up to speed ( so to speak ) I also had my eyes opened, which in hindsight may have stopped me venturing into the promoting side of things but i,m here now, i try to stay away from the politics but sometimes you just get drawn in for better or for worse. Word of warning for anyone thinking of been a promoter Go into it with your eyes wide shut

Steve

[Guest Baz]

God, I even moved south to London in the 80s and discovered the 100 Club. Admitting that London could deliver a rare soul club was hard but, I had to admit it.

What were you wrong about?

I was wrong about the 100 club, went a few times, and never really 'got it' a few years ago, was never really bothered about going again then started to go regular, meet many of the people down there, its like home now, my fav nighter on the scene, and hardly ever miss one.

[Soulsmith]

I was wrong about the 100 club, went a few times, and never really 'got it' a few years ago, was never really bothered about going again then started to go regular, meet many of the people down there, its like home now, my fav nighter on the scene, and hardly ever miss one.

We have a fairly healty soul night locally Bisley. Pulls in around 300 every 3 months. It about 35 miles from the 100 club. Less than 10 people from Bisley will ever go to the 100 club.

If you ask the remaining 290 why they never go the answer is/will be " i won't like it"

You couldn't make stuff like this up.

[John Elias]

My freind told me a short while ago about people thinking we were one big family and all looked after each other ....How wrong he was...There are many good people out there on the scene but also plenty of the other type also ..Over the last 20 odd years i had a great time just going to events as a punter with mates,i did not know the promoters/djs or main players really,just paid my cash and danced away....Since i have started to promote nights and be more in touch with other promoters/dj etc i have seen the underworld of lying/cheating/two faced back stabbing and lots lots more,promoters and djs drinking and chatting with each other and then calling each other cu"ts and trying to do each other over..You may think its the Sunday morning blues but i'm sad to say i been thinking this for a long long time...Like i said,plenty good folk out there and lets hope they win through or we all lose...Stick to the dancefloor and away from the dark corners

Lets hope i'm more upbeat after some more sleep.

..Hey ho Stevie,hope you lot had a goodun last nite/this morning,some points you made there are contributing factors to why a lot of people now stay away from the scene,shame really,yes it is upto us perhaps more forward thinking types to win through but I am afraid there are too many stuck in the rut!

PS...my office is a Ford Transit,keep up the good work,John........

Have a good bank holiday folks ...

Edited August 28, 2006 by dancingcollector

[Bigsoulman]

Being brought up with soul music in the 60ts I felt it had run its course in the early 70s not knowing that a club in Wigan was going on, I was married in 73 and our first house had a hotel/bar nearby, one Saturday night I noticed 2 guy's standing at the bar with holdalls with soul badges on them, politely asking them what it was all about they told me about the Casino to which i immediatly turned my nose up at , one of the guy's said he would make me a tape and sure enough it was left behind the bar for me, on getting home I eagerly put it on and was horrified at what I was hearing and dismissed it out of hand, on meeting up with them again the following week I told them it all sounded like white pop music that had been recorded in a toilet , but forgive this fool as it turned out the track listing was as follows--

Turning My Heartbeat Up

Queen Of Fools

The Statue

Wait A Minute

well you don't want to hear the rest do you? , but instead of going and sussing it out I continued to turn my nose up at it, it was'nt until the invent of the CD that I realised what i'd been missing, not just at the Casino but Wheel, Mecca etc, I rate that as one of my biggest mistakes

Lenny

[Tubbs]

In the high Mecca era in mid '70s I made the mistake of believing that the greatest Sixties Soul records had already been 'discovered' and played and the obvious logic was pursuing new rare soul. How wrong was that? Over the next twenty years I heard great sixties that I'd never heard before, yet still loved and yearned for modern soul.

Everyone on this site, without exception, has made mistakes.

Maybe it was discounting modern records that are actually brilliant soul records. Or under-pricing very rare records you can't get your hands on now. Or under-valuing Motown and then hearing a killer sound. Maybe it was disssing a DJ who then played a blinding set. Or initially hating a venue that went on to become part of your life. Maybe it was thinking that the UK is king and when you went abroad you fell in love with a new scene.

God, I even moved south to London in the 80s and discovered the 100 Club. Admitting that London could deliver a rare soul club was hard but, I had to admit it.

What were you wrong about?

What about your biggest mistake Stuart and that is supporting St Johnstone and your 2nd biggest not being to the best soul night in Scotland up in Aberdeen.

Tubbs

Edited September 2, 2006 by tubbs

[Guest Rich]

In the high Mecca era in mid '70s I made the mistake of believing that the greatest Sixties Soul records had already been 'discovered' and played and the obvious logic was pursuing new rare soul. How wrong was that? Over the next twenty years I heard great sixties that I'd never heard before, yet still loved and yearned for modern soul.

Everyone on this site, without exception, has made mistakes.

Maybe it was discounting modern records that are actually brilliant soul records. Or under-pricing very rare records you can't get your hands on now. Or under-valuing Motown and then hearing a killer sound. Maybe it was disssing a DJ who then played a blinding set. Or initially hating a venue that went on to become part of your life. Maybe it was thinking that the UK is king and when you went abroad you fell in love with a new scene.

God, I even moved south to London in the 80s and discovered the 100 Club. Admitting that London could deliver a rare soul club was hard but, I had to admit it.

What were you wrong about?

Around the time of Clifton Hall, I thought 'this is it, one nation under a groove, an eclectic mix of sounds throughout the ages, under the one roof. Even though I'd recently had a serious barney at Sleaford Fete (of all places) on the 6ts-Modern debate - somethings never change - my feeling at the time, that this would be the order of the day and become quite the norm'.

Hey ho