Pete S Posted March 11, 2015 Posted March 11, 2015 (edited) Is this the most over the top record description ever seen on eBay I wonder? It's not even a particularly outstanding record! AN ORIGINAL JAMAICAN RECORDED AND ISSUED 45 IN OUTSTANDING EXCELLENT CONDITION! THE FIRST DECENT COPY TO BE SEEN ON EBAY OR ANYWHERE IN MONTHS,PROBABLY YEARS FROM A RELIABLE POWER SELLER AND KEEN COLLECTOR! CHUCK AND DOBBY "SWEETER THAN HONEY" A very early ska style recording but nearer to Rhythm and blues! THE"B"SIDE= "SAD OVER YOU" THIS SIDE HAS THE VERY DISTINCTIVE SKA BEAT BEHIND IT! WIRL LABEL #211 WIRL STOOD FOR: WEST INDIES RECORDS LTD! IT WAS ISSUED IN THE UK 1961 ON>> STARLITE ST 45 043. (PRESSED BY UK ESQUIRE) ONE OF THE EARLIEST JAMAICAN SINGLES TO BE ISSUED IN THE UK, AS A 45RPM 48 YEARS AGO IN 1961! BUT THIS IS THE ORIGINAL JAMAICAN PRESSING!! YOU MAY NEVER EVER SEE IT AGAIN! HARDLY ANYONE BOUGHT IT! HOW MANY COPIES TURNED UP OUTSIDE OF JAMAICA??? HARDLY ANY SURVIVE! A ONCE IN A LIEFTIME CHANCE TO OWN A FABULOUS ITEM! ULTRA CLEAN EXAMPLE THAT HAS BARELY BEEN PLAYED-PROBABLY ONLY A COUPLE OF TIMES FROM THE COLLECTION OF A FORMER ESQUIRE RECORD LABEL MANAGEMENT PERSON WHO WAS SENT THIS DIRECT FROM JAMAICA(POSSIBLY BY CHRIS BLACKWELL HIMSELF IN HIS EARLY ISLAND DAYS)IN AN ATTEMPT TO GET A BRITISH RELEASE-WHICH IT SUCCEEDED! ONE OF A STACK OF ORIGINAL AND VERY RARE 1960s JAMAICAN PRESSED SKA 45s ON AUCTION FROM ME THIS WEEK! ESQUIRE WAS THE ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT LABELS FOR BRITISH JAZZ AND SKIFFLE 1950s RECORDINGS BUT THEY ALSO HAD SOME OTHER TINY LABEL OFFSHOOTS INCLUDING THE KEENLY SOUGHT AFTER STARLITE LABEL THAT ISSUED SELECTIVE JAMAICAN PRODUCT WHICH IS WHERE THIS DISC WAS REISSUED IN 1961(SEE ABOVE)BUT BEFORE THAT IT HAD TO COME FROM SOMEWHERE AND SO WHERE BETTER THAN KINGSTON,JAMAICA,THE VERY HEART OF SKA AND EVENTUALLY REGGAE. AT THE TIME OF THIS ISSUE,THE INFLUENCE OF AMERICAN R&B AND ROCK AND ROLL WAS THE DIRECTION THAT JAMAICAN PERFROMERS WERE GOING AND AS SUCH THIS 45 WILL APPEAL TO R&B/DOO WOP/ROCK AND ROLL COLLECTORS AS WELL AS THE FEVERISH SKA FOLLOWERS!!! HERE IS A 45 THAT HAS ALWAYS BEEN RARE BUT ALMOST 50 YEARS LATER IS ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO FIND IN ANY CONDITION,LET ALONE AS GOOD AS THIS ONE! BARELY PLAYED-OUTSTANDINGLY QUIET VINYL WITH SOME SURFACE NOISE BUT TO BE EXPECTED IN JAMAICAN PRESSINGS! I HAVE STATED EXCELLENT CONDITION BUT THAT IS BEING STRICT AND IN FACT PURE MINT DOES NOT EXIST ON ANY RECORD UNLESS SEALED DIRECT FROM THE FACTORY!!!!!!!!!!! IF YOU ARE LOOKING FOR AN UPGRADER/ULTIMATE COPY OR SIMPLY AN EXCELLENT INVESTMENT FOR THE FUTURE-THIS COULD BE THE ONE FOR YOU! IT IS TIME FOR ANOTHER DELIGHT FROM ONE OF THE UKs LEADING RECORD EXPERTS/DEALERS. FROM A RECENTLY PURCHASED COLLECTION OF TOP QUALITY RECORDS OWNED FROM NEW BY ONE OF THE SENIOR MANAGEMENT OF ESQUIRE RECORDS WHO HARDLY USED HIS RECORDS AND STORED AWAY FROM LIGHT AND HEAT IN A CUPBOARD FOR NEARLY 50 YEARS! THERE ARE JUST THE FAINTEST OF SURFACE MARKS AND THE SURFACE NOISE IS MINIMAL. THIS 45 HAS NOT HAD MUCH USE-NOT EVEN ANY CLEANING WAS NECESSARY! AMAZING!!! A JAMAICAN MUSIC/EARLY SKA/R&B RECORD COLLECTORS DREAM-PLEASE READ ON FOR IN DEPTH DETAILS!! SKA WAS A STYLE THAT INFLUENCED SO MANY PERFORMERS AND LEAD TO REGGAE BUT IN 1961 ONLY A SMALL NUMBER OF FANS EXISTED FOR IT IN THE UK AND INFACT MOST IMPORTED JAMAICAN 45s WERE SOLD(OR ATTEMPTED TO BE SOLD)IN SMALL,SPECIALIST SHOPS. THE FEW COPIES THAT ACTUALLY SOLD WERE PLAYED AT PARTIES OR IN CLUBS AND IT IS JUST ABOUT IMPOSSIBLE TO FIND IN ALMOST AS NEW CONDITION AS OFFERED HERE FOR AUCTION ON EBAY. I HAVE NEVER SEEN THIS 45 BEFORE!! ANYONE INTERESTED IN JAMAICAN MUSIC/EARLY SKA/R &B WILL WANT THIS BADLY! THESE TRACKS MAY NOT HAVE BEEN REISSUED. THESE RECORDS WERE NOT ALWAYS GIVEN MUCH PUBLICITY,OFTEN NOT STOCKED BY GENERAL RECORD SHOPS(WHO WOULD ORDER THEM ON REQUEST),USUALLY SOLD IN SPECIALIST SHOPS. IMPORTED RECORDS WOULD BE VERY EXPENSIVE SO I WOULD ESTIMATE LESS THAN A HUNDRED COPIES EVER REACHED THE UK AND HOW MANY ARE LEFT IN THIS CONDTION? POSSIBLY THE LAST COPY IN EXISTANCE OF THIS 45 AND THAT COULD BE YOURS WITH KEEN BIDDING! THE PRINT RUN FOR JAMAICAN WIRL LABEL 45s WAS PROBABLY JUST A FEW THOUSAND(IF THAT) AND GIVEN THE FACT THAT IN 1961,MANY BUYERS FOR IT COULDN'T AFFORD MANY RECORDS,IT IS HIGHLY LIKELY THAT THIS 45 ONLY SOLD A FEW HUNDRED COPIES IN JAMAICA ITSELF,SO HOW MANY SURVIVE 48 YEARS LATER AS GOOD AS THIS EXAMPLE???? I HAVE NOT FOUND SUCH BREATHTAKING QUALITY FOR A 45 OF THIS VINTAGE FOR YEARS.THEY ARE SIMPLY NOT TURNING UP AS FREQUENTLY AS THEY DID,EVEN FIVE YEARS AGO.MOST HAVE NOW LEFT THE UK FOR THE COLLECTIONS OF JAPAN,AMERICA AND THE FAR EAST NEVER TO RETURN TO THE SELLING MARKET. THIS MAY BE YOUR LAST CHANCE TO GET SUCH A RARE AND MUSICALLY BRILLIANT 45 LIKE THIS ONE IN ALMOST AS NEW CONDITION WITH THE BEAUTIFULLY PRESERVED COVER PLAIN SEPIA COVER! THE RECORD HAS NO SURFACE PATCHES OR BAD STORAGE ISSUES,NO WARPING,NO SCUFFS,NO SCRATCHES,NO FADING etc. THERE ARE JUST A FEW FAINT SURFACE MARKS WITH NEARLY 50 YEARS OF THE DISC NOT BEING PLAYED AFTER PROBABLY 1 OR 2 PLAYS IN 1961! PLEASE LOOK AT THE PHOTO OF THE BRIGHTNESS AND SHARPNESS OF THE "A"SIDE LABEL. THICK VINYL!! THE LABELS HAVE NO WRITING/NO STAINS/NO STICKERS/NO FADING/NO RIPS-IT WILL BE HARD TO BEAT. THE PREVIOUS OWNER WAS ONE OF THE MAIN DECISION MAKERS AT THE ESQUIRE RECORD COMPANY AND NATURALLY HAD THE BENEFIT OF GETTING THE BEST COPIES,ONE OF THE VERY FIRST OFF THE PRESSES AND INDEED IT IS HIGHLY PROBABLE THAT THIS IS ONE OF THE BEST EXAMPLES OF THIS RECORD TO APPEAR ON EBAY FOR YEARS DIRECT FROM SOMEONE WHO WAS IN THE RIGHT PLACE AT THE RIGHT TIME! JUST ONE PREVIOUS OWNER IN NEARLY 50 YEARS!!!!!!!! THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE BEEN DEALING WITH ME ON EBAY SINCE 2002 AND INDEED ELSEWHERE BEFORE SINCE 1986, WILL PROBABLY KNOW I HAVE BEEN A RESPECTED MUSIC EXPERT AND COLLECTOR FOR MANY YEARS CALLED UPON BY RADIO,TV AND PRICE GUIDES FOR MY ADVICE AND KNOWLEDGE. UNLIKE OTHER SELLERS, I AM IN MY MID FORTIES AND HAD THE ENCOURAGEMENT FROM EVEN MY PRE-SCHOOL AGE TO ENJOY ALL STYLES OF MUSIC FROM MY LATE FATHER, WHO WAS A RESPECTED MUSICIAN AND COLLECTOR OF CLASSICAL AND JAZZ MUSIC. BY MY TEENAGE YEARS, ALTHOUGH LISTENING TO THE POP MUSIC OF THE 1970s, I TENDED TO ACTUALLY ENJOY JAZZ AND CLASSICAL MUSIC MORE. I HAVE SINCE DEVELOPED A KNOWLEDGE OF MANY GENRES AND ESPECIALLY KNOW THE ITEMS THAT ARE REGARDED BY MANY AS THE BEST AND WHILST I AM IN THE BUSINESS TO SELL, I CARE DEEPLY ABOUT THE ITEMS I AM SELLING. IN A COMPETITIVE MARKET SUCH AS EBAY, THIS IS GETTING RARE SO YOU CAN BID WITH COMPLETE CONFIDENCE! A VERY NICE ORIGINAL JAMAICAN PRESSING! MOST COPIES THAT SURVIVE ARE IN POOR CONDITION-THIS ONE IS IN EXCELLENT CONDITION WITH SOME SURFACE NOISE WITH THE TREBLE FULL ON TO"CATCH"ANY GROOVE WEAR AND THAT IS BEING STRICT! NO STICKS!/NO JUMPS!/NO CLICKS!/NO SWISHES!/NO DISTORTION! A COPY THAT HAS BEEN PLAYED ONLY A COUPLE OF TIMES,HAVING SPOKEN AT LENGTH TO THE PREVIOUS OWNERS SON,SELLING DUE TO HIS FATHERS PASSING. Just how many were preserved like this one FROM A RELIABLE INDUSTRY SOURCE ??!!!!!! The MONO ONLY mixes are Superb and full of bass, with a natural warmth from those VERY EARLY VINYL days OF NEARLY 50 YEARS AGO! In the EARLY 1960s, many were using terrible old and heavy equipment and using worn styli or nasty autochangers that would scuff the discs forever in seconds at the time not aware that years later even the slightest damage would be evident on more sophisticated audio. The EARLY 1960s equipment was quite often a bit basic and it was suggested to play 45s at between 5 and 8 grammes, which of course after a few plays would produce on later plays that nasty"film of fizzy distortion"so often IGNORED by sellers and in MY LISTENING GRADING is ALWAYS LISTENED OUT FOR WITH THE TREBLE FULL ON AND PLAYED TWICE TO ENSURE THE BEST AND MOST ACURATE GRADING!!! OF COURSE IN JAMAICA ITSELF YOU CAN ONLY BEGIN TO IMAGINE HOW CRUDE/BASIC AND AWFUL THE RECORD PLAYERS WOULD BE WITH THE SAME STYLI/NEEDLE USED FOR FAR TOO LONG AND THE ROUGH HANDLING,MAINLY IN THE OPEN AIR AT SOUND SYSTEM PARTIES OR INSIDE SMOKEY CLUBS OR AT HOUSE PARTIES WHERE ALMOST ANY SPILLAGE OF DRINK/DRUGS AND MAYBE BLOOD WOULD END UP IN THE VINYL!!!! To find immaculate copies all these years later is getting almost impossible!FACT! THEY ARE SIMPLY DRYING UP! These mixes are far punchier but are rather flat on the CDs that have come out! Vinyl is still the best way to hear vintage Jamaican/Early ska music like this one and always will be! GREAT SOUND WITH GREAT BASS! I TEST ALL THE WAY THROUGH WITHOUT FILTERING OR A MONO SWITCH. . Look elsewhere on ebay and you WON'T see other copies-If by some sheer miracle you do just look closer and you will find they are often REPRODUCTIONS/BOOTLEGS/ reissues, or lower grade copies with all manner of faults. MOST RECORDS ON EBAY ARE IN DIABOLICAL, BAD CONDITIONS ATTEMPTED TO BE SOLD BY PEOPLE WHO DO NOT KNOW HOW TO GRADE OR BOTHER TO ACTUALLY PLAY THEM FOR AN ACURATE DESCRIPTION! This is A POSSIBLE UPGRADER COPY-EXAMINE YOURS IF YOU HAVE ONE AT ALL AND IT MAY NOT BE AS GOOD AS YOU THINK! REMEMBER I AM GRADING STRICTLY! PLEASE STUDY THE PHOTO! As both a collector and dealer,I AM VERY STRICT ON GRADING but DO CHECKOUT MY FEEDBACK FOR GRADING PROOF!!!! Realistic £25 STARTING price with no annoying reserve. BUY IT NOW OFFERS WILL NOT BE ACCEPTED! HARDLY ANY JAMAICAN PRESSED R&B 45s OF THIS VINTAGE SELL FOR LESS AND I CANNOT STRESS ENOUGH HOW GOOD THEY ARE.DO NOT BE SURPRISED IF THERE IS FRANTIC BIDDING AT THE LAST MINUTE. DON'T LEAVE IT AND REGRET IT LATER!!!!!!!!!!!THIS MAY NOT BE REPEATED FOR A LONG TIME! THIS IS A GREAT CHANCE TO OWN A SUPER AND RARE 45. A GREAT INVESTMENT! Postage is £2 RECORDED DELIVERY-SOLID PACKING FAR BETTER THAN THE MAJORITY OF SELLERS-LOOK AT THE FEEDBACK FOR PROOF! YOU WILL GET IT IN FINE SHAPE!! IT WOULD BE WISE TO GO FOR £4-50 SPECIAL DELIVERY. Outside UK extra depending on destination. PLEASE NOTE THAT DUE TO SEVERAL ITEMS OVERSEAS BEING"LOST", IF THE OPTION TO SEND INSURED IS REFUSED THEN I CANNOT BE HELD RESPONSIBLE FOR LOST ITEMS. I DO NOT DRAMATICALLY INCREASE POSTAGE ON SEVERAL ITEMS BOUGHT.Paypal or cheque within 7 days please. CHEQUE WILL NEED TIME TO CLEAR BEFORE DELIVERY. SPECIAL POSTAGE RATES FOR SEVERAL ITEMS BOUGHT DO NOT BID UNLESS YOU INTEND TO PAY.Feedback always left. BE AWARE!!!! NON PAYERS AND TIMEWASTERS WILL BE DEALT WITH AND REPORTED TO EBAY AS WELL AS CIRCULATED VERBALLY AND BY EMAIL TO MY MANY DEALER AND COLLECTOR FRIENDS AROUND THE WORLD!!!!!!!!!! I MUST POINT OUT THERE ARE A SMALL NUMBER OF REALLY BAD PEOPLE OUT THERE FROM CERTAIN COUNTRIES WHO THINK IT IS A GOOD IDEA TO PLACE FAKE BIDS AND NOT PAY ON THIS TYPE OF MUSIC.THANKS TO THE GENUINE AND APPRECIATED TIP OFFS FROM FELLOW DEALERS AND COLLECTORS ON PREVIOUS OCCASIONS, I AM AWARE OF SOME OF THESE TIMEWASTERS WHO SPOIL IT ALL FOR THE MAJORITY. I WILL DO MY BEST TO HALT THESE EVIL IDIOTS AS THE AUCTION PROGRESSES(I WAS ABLE TO STOP ONE MAJOR TIMEWASTER WITH THE LAST BATCH) BUT PLEASE BEAR WITH ME TRYING TO SORT IT OUT FAIRLY AND SQUARELY.ANY TIMEWASTERS OF THIS TYPE WILL BE DEALT WITH THROUGH EBAY SO BID WITH CONFIDENCE.GENUINE BIDDERS WILL BE GIVEN MY BEST ATTENTION AS ALWAYS-THANKYOU!!!!!!!!! Checkout my power seller status and my own feedback of OVER 9000 comments of my standards and service many from some of the world's most respected collectors and dealers. BUY with confidence! Always adding quality Records, cd's and related items to ebay several times a week. Customers from all over the world regard my ebay selections as the #1 for QUALITY,VARIETY AND SERVICE. I HAVE BEEN A DEALER SINCE 1986 WITH OVER 7 YEARS ON EBAY. I ACTUALLY LISTEN TO MY ITEMS ON GOOD QUALITY EQUIPMENT, USUALLY TWICE TO ENSURE THE VERY BEST POSSIBLE AND ACURATE GRADE-I WANT LONG TERM REGULAR CUSTOMERS WHO WANT TO RETURN TO BUY FROM ME WITH FAITH AND TRUST. LOOK AT MY FEEDBACK AND SEE WELL KNOWN RESPECTED COLLECTORS AND DEALERS WHO BUY FROM ME OVER AND OVER-NOTE WHAT THEY SAY-PAGE AFTER PAGE OF GLOWING STATEMENTS! UK Customers are very welcome to collect ebay winnings by prior email arrangement.OVER 7 YEARS ON EBAY and many more before as a keen collector! Thanks for looking and good luck. OTHER STYLES OF MUSIC ON EBAY FROM ME-SOMETHING FOR EVERYONE-LOOK NO FURTHER!!!!! DON'T MISS OUT ON THIS OPPORTUNITY,MAYBE FOR THE LAST TIME FOR THIS SUPER JAMAICAN ISSUED RECORDING OF 1961 VINTAGE! 100% GENIUNE ORIGINAL!!! I HAVE MENTIONED EVERYTHING BUT IN THE UNLIKELY EVENT OF ANY QUESTIONS PLEASE ASK. MORE FANTASTIC EARLY JAMAICAN SKA 45s FROM THIS COLLECTION FROM THE SAME ERA ENDING ON THE SAME EVENING AS THIS ONE ENDS! THIS WILL BE THE LAST BATCH I HAVE FOR THE TIME BEING SO DON'T LEAVE IT AND REGRET IT! KEEP WATCHING! DON'T LEAVE YOUR COMPUTER SCREEN! THIS COULD BE YOUR LAST CHANCE TO GET SUCH A WONDERFUL 45 LIKE THIS ONE! GOOD LUCK AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR INTEREST. THE COUNTDOWN IS ON TO OWN ONE OF THE RAREST JAMAICAN 45s EVER TO BE SEEN ON EBAY! Edited March 11, 2015 by Pete S 2
Liamgp Posted March 11, 2015 Posted March 11, 2015 Reminds me of the time I wrote an essay whilst in the grip of two black bombers! 3
Alan Bonthrone1 Posted March 11, 2015 Posted March 11, 2015 He write, s how I used to talk when I was on the "tablet, s".
kevinsoulman Posted March 11, 2015 Posted March 11, 2015 must live and work alone know how he feels kev
Guest johnny hart Posted March 11, 2015 Posted March 11, 2015 Esplendido Pete ,Makes our Mr Manship positively Speechless. PS just a few Mannyisms in response ; 1, Describing a bashed out centre UK 45 the bane of all Brit OCD,s ,JM remarked;" DJ friendly centre removed for Easy Play!" 2, A perfect clean label covered in writing, JMs perfect escape; "Comes with previous owners lovingly written notations, another touch ,adding to its historical Provenance"
Geoff Whitfield Posted March 11, 2015 Posted March 11, 2015 I wish he was right about the date he says issued in 1961 - 48 years ago, I was born in 61 and had my 54th birthday in January just gone
Mr Smithy Posted March 11, 2015 Posted March 11, 2015 In all caps too, bloody hard to get through. Anyone got a link. I was going to look see if he put a pic up, or do you just have to settle for 1000 words, but I can't find it
Pete S Posted March 11, 2015 Author Posted March 11, 2015 I wish he was right about the date he says issued in 1961 - 48 years ago, I was born in 61 and had my 54th birthday in January just gone Ah I never said it was recent...I had the same record and was looking for a previous sale of it and found this 1
Pete S Posted March 11, 2015 Author Posted March 11, 2015 In all caps too, bloody hard to get through. Anyone got a link. I was going to look see if he put a pic up, or do you just have to settle for 1000 words, but I can't find it https://www.popsike.com/1961JAMAICAN-WIRL-45CHUCK-AND-DOBBYSWEETER-THAN-HONEY/390081305597.html
Guest Waggy Posted March 11, 2015 Posted March 11, 2015 I've just asked him if he's sure its not a boot.........................
Mr Smithy Posted March 11, 2015 Posted March 11, 2015 https://www.popsike.com/1961JAMAICAN-WIRL-45CHUCK-AND-DOBBYSWEETER-THAN-HONEY/390081305597.html Ta, Pete. I thought it was a recent thing I was looking for. He must have done all that drivel because he can't take a pic in focus He got more than I would have given for it, probably 20c a word. I've often wondered, why do people take pictures of just the label, I and I suspect others, don't play the label. In this case it was out of focus so doesn't matter really
Kegsy Posted March 11, 2015 Posted March 11, 2015 Reminds me of the time I wrote an essay whilst in the grip of two black bombers! TWO ? wimp
Ian Dewhirst Posted March 11, 2015 Posted March 11, 2015 Now that's the way to sell a piece of plastic! He's in the wrong business....... Ian D
Mach Posted March 11, 2015 Posted March 11, 2015 (edited) signed..Chuck & Dobby Edited March 11, 2015 by Mach
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