Can anyone direct me as to where i can purchase the old style 7" cardboard record covers, you know the one's that we all used to have in the 70s with the plastic label protector & coloured binding down the sides. I know that they have started to make them again & i'm feckin' fed up of the white ones, cheers guy's....

  On 12/02/2015 at 15:33, Tanktop said:

Can anyone direct me as to where i can purchase the old style 7" cardboard record covers, you know the one's that we all used to have in the 70s with the plastic label protector & coloured binding down the sides. I know that they have started to make them again & i'm feckin' fed up of the white ones, cheers guy's....

 

I'd be interested to know that too, haven't seen any for sale anywhere.

 

There are some 2nd hand ones on Ebay.

 

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CARD-7-RECORD-SLEEVES-PLASTIC-LINED-X15-NO-WRITING-/141563651280?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item20f5d9e4d0

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CARD-7-RECORD-SLEEVES-PLASTIC-LINED-X25-MOST-HAVE-WRITING-STICKER-STAINS-/141563644939?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item20f5d9cc0b

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CARD-RECORD-SLEEVES-7-PLASTIC-LINING-X32-MOST-HAVE-WRITING-STICKER-STAINS-/141563648124?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item20f5d9d87c

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CARD-7-RECORD-SLEEVES-PLASTIC-LINED-X25-MOST-HAVE-GOT-WRITING-STICKER-STAINS-/141563643064?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item20f5d9c4b8

I was talking to someone i know today & he say's he's got around a 150 of them all brand new, put aside for me. If he can get more, i'll let you guy's in on it.

Careful though, if you leave your records in there too long, the plastic can affect your records

I used to put the brown paper sleeves inside these, back in the day & they seemed to be fine when cut to size. Thanks for the heads up Pete.

  On 12/02/2015 at 15:33, Tanktop said:

Can anyone direct me as to where i can purchase the old style 7" cardboard record covers, you know the one's that we all used to have in the 70s with the plastic label protector & coloured binding down the sides. I know that they have started to make them again & i'm feckin' fed up of the white ones, cheers guy's....

 

Not sure where you live my friend but on Doncaster market there are several stalls with lot's of these but problem is they usually contain 70's & 80's disco fever stuff. Try your local flea markets

and they are wider so I I have to put them side ways in my box

  On 12/02/2015 at 19:05, Pete S said:

Careful though, if you leave your records in there too long, the plastic can affect your records

Is there any evidence of this ?

 

Does it affect vinyl and styrene ?

 

I have records kept in these sleeves for 30 years and all play fine.

 

I do take them out of the sleeves regularly.

 

To play them (because thats what they are for, right )

 

Cheers Paul

  On 13/02/2015 at 18:07, soul shrews said:

Is there any evidence of this ?

 

 

 

No, I made it up.

 

Actually I've lost count of the amount of records I've seen with damage from plastic sleeves, probably depends what sort of plastic it is.

  On 13/02/2015 at 18:07, soul shrews said:

Is there any evidence of this ?

 

Does it affect vinyl and styrene ?

 

I have records kept in these sleeves for 30 years and all play fine.

 

I do take them out of the sleeves regularly.

 

To play them (because thats what they are for, right )

 

Cheers Paul

Likewise. When I left school, my first job was in Boots the Chemist, which in those days had an audio section and sold those poly-lined sleeves. I've still got a fair few of them in use and have never seen any signs of deterioration visually or otherwise.   

A lot of UK released LPs from the 70s had  poly lined  inner  sleeves too

 

Cheers Paul

 Whilst on the subject, I,m sure i read some years back that the white card covers (my personal preference) slowly  emit chemicals used in the cardboard making process and these can damage records over time . as i have no conclusive proof that this is true i continue to use them as they have always seemed more aesthetically pleasing , almost like framing the disc.                                                                                                                                                                                                                   In the same article i think it praised the ever so slightly waxy  olive green record sleeves , thicker than paper but not stiff enough to be considered card, that used to be so  common in the states . Top of the pile as i recall were very fine quality paper inner sleeves ( to go inside the carboard ones) apparantly these are used a lot in Japan and can be purchased from there.    As for the ones you are looking for , only a man named tank top would go that route    ( only joking mate )

I have also some 45 paper sleeves with plastic/poly lining. Not sure where these originate from but are certainly more recent than 70s card ones.

Remember those horrible printed LP inner sleeves in the early 80s ?

 

Cheers Paul

  On 13/02/2015 at 18:13, Pete S said:

No, I made it up.

 

Actually I've lost count of the amount of records I've seen with damage from plastic sleeves, probably depends what sort of plastic it is.

 

Pete is absolutely right about this……I have seen many records over the years which develop a permanent stain on the vinyl due to either moisture or chemical reaction between different types of plastic/vinyl…..Luckily,I've never used them myself. 

  On 13/02/2015 at 20:58, carty said:

 Whilst on the subject, I,m sure i read some years back that the white card covers (my personal preference) slowly  emit chemicals used in the cardboard making process and these can damage records over time . as i have no conclusive proof that this is true i continue to use them as they have always seemed more aesthetically pleasing , almost like framing the disc.                                                                                                                                                                                                                   In the same article i think it praised the ever so slightly waxy  olive green record sleeves , thicker than paper but not stiff enough to be considered card, that used to be so  common in the states . Top of the pile as i recall were very fine quality paper inner sleeves ( to go inside the carboard ones) apparantly these are used a lot in Japan and can be purchased from there.    As for the ones you are looking for , only a man named tank top would go that route    ( only joking mate )

I don't understand why you have to slag all over my user name mate, have you seen my profile picture, i'm a feckin' mental case, so beware...... hahaha ( only joking mate )

  On 13/02/2015 at 18:13, Pete S said:

No, I made it up.

 

Actually I've lost count of the amount of records I've seen with damage from plastic sleeves, probably depends what sort of plastic it is.

The  esteemed "Record Collector" mag had a long and lengthy debate on the subject of vynil deterioration last year.General conclusions where; Vynil  records not designed to last an eternity, but the following could cause problems;packing records tightly and not playing them, heavy duty plastic covers caused a reaction; awhite milky discolouration and impaired reprodution and were the worst offenders ,polythene liners deemed not a substantial risk plain paper inners concluded to be the best option, this was not a scientific test and at no time were live baby vynils used in the survey!

  On 15/02/2015 at 11:34, Tanktop said:

I don't understand why you have to slag all over my user name mate, have you seen my profile picture, i'm a feckin' mental case, so beware...... hahaha ( only joking mate )

Wasnt intended  with any malice at all Tank top , its just that those type of covers were around at the same time as tank tops , ie an early to mid seventies thing , if you were offended , i apologise.

  On 15/02/2015 at 16:50, carty said:

Wasnt intended  with any malice at all Tank top , its just that those type of covers were around at the same time as tank tops , ie an early to mid seventies thing , if you were offended , i apologise.

Just a bit o' banter between a couple of soulies, not offended at all mate, love a good laugh. Tanktop is my actual nickname from the late 70s, i was the only guy in my crew that could afford a real Fred Perry tanktop to go with my Ben Sherman's, name just stuck.

  On 16/02/2015 at 05:45, Tanktop said:

Just a bit o' banter between a couple of soulies, not offended at all mate, love a good laugh. Tanktop is my actual nickname from the late 70s, i was the only guy in my crew that could afford a real Fred Perry tanktop to go with my Ben Sherman's, name just stuck.

Do you reckon you'll stay with the plain cardboard ones? every colour you can think of.... to match your labels

  On 16/02/2015 at 08:56, Labeat said:

Do you reckon you'll stay with the plain cardboard ones? every colour you can think of.... to match your labels

Yeah, think i'll just stick with what i've got & maybe start doodling on them again, if i can find the time. The only problem with the coloured sleeves, i don't know anyone who'll mix & match em, they all seem to sell them in the one colour in bulk. Any ideas ?

  On 16/02/2015 at 14:18, Tanktop said:

Yeah, think i'll just stick with what i've got & maybe start doodling on them again, if i can find the time. The only problem with the coloured sleeves, i don't know anyone who'll mix & match em, they all seem to sell them in the one colour in bulk. Any ideas ?

What a dilemma. Stick with what you've got!

  On 16/02/2015 at 15:34, Labeat said:

What a dilemma. Stick with what you've got!

I think i will, time to get the felt pen's out again....lol

Thanks to everyone who posted in with advise, much appreciated guy's 

  On 12/02/2015 at 19:05, Pete S said:

Careful though, if you leave your records in there too long, the plastic can affect your records

Never ever did that to any of mine Pete.  The only thing someone said like that once was that because the 

record was inside the plastic inner sleeve that there was a chance the record could 'sweat' inside if you were taking 

records from a warm environment (indoors) out in the cold during the winter months and you were say Dj'ing or

a record dealer moving your stock about regularly. Of course if the record 'sweats' in the plastic liner you could get

damp on the labels, but this has never happened to me.   

  On 16/02/2015 at 16:06, hammie said:

Never ever did that to any of mine Pete.  The only thing someone said like that once was that because the 

record was inside the plastic inner sleeve that there was a chance the record could 'sweat' inside if you were taking 

records from a warm environment (indoors) out in the cold during the winter months and you were say Dj'ing or

a record dealer moving your stock about regularly. Of course if the record 'sweats' in the plastic liner you could get

damp on the labels, but this has never happened to me.   

 

Well you pays your money and takes your chances...

  On 14/02/2015 at 12:34, Ivor Jones said:

Pete is absolutely right about this……I have seen many records over the years which develop a permanent stain on the vinyl due to either moisture or chemical reaction between different types of plastic/vinyl…..Luckily,I've never used them myself. 

Over time you get a build up of static ( everyone has to have noticed this) and that can attract dust and grit!