Guest Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 (edited) Couple of days on this,think we`ve finaly know whats what?,but you never know...do you? / We have two we think are ok,but if anybody knows diferant? In Manship's Price Guide 3rd Edition it has; Legend L-1001 @ £75 - (Case Of Tyme) Legend L-1014 @ £30 - (James Lewis and the Case Of Tyme) So i was right,1014 is first of Case of time with J Lewis,now next question,is it the same? Edited August 22, 2006 by ken Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 Bored,just got this very cheep?,maybe you know better Ah!!,but you gotta` put a title on A-side £8 it was so cheep!!,hope i aint been to smart for me own good I`ll post as scan,if somebody gets it Should be dead easy..........................you can all tell me i`ve been a :fool: No chance, Bump,nobody then? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 Bored,just got this very cheep?,maybe you know better Ah!!,but you gotta` put a title on A-side £8 it was so cheep!!,hope i aint been to smart for me own good I`ll post as scan,if somebody gets it Should be dead easy..........................you can all tell me i`ve been a :fool: No chance, Is this file working for them thats bothered?thanks Ken. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Sebastian Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 It's the flip to "Manifesto" by Case Of Tyme. "Some Call It Love". Nice one. did you get an original for £8? could take one myself at that price if anyone's selling. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 (edited) It's the flip to "Manifesto" by Case Of Tyme. "Some Call It Love". Nice one. did you get an original for £8? could take one myself at that price if anyone's selling. Might not be original?,anybody?..... Paid £20 for these..... And this,.so not all lost Ken Edited August 20, 2006 by ken Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Sunnysoul Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 It's the flip to "Manifesto" by Case Of Tyme. "Some Call It Love". Nice one. did you get an original for £8? could take one myself at that price if anyone's selling. Me too, always preferred "Some Call It Love" rather than "Manifesto" Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
grant Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 Might not be original?,anybody?..... Paid £20 for these..... And this,.so not all lost Ken manifesto looks like the 70's boot Ken Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 manifesto looks like the 70's boot Ken It dont to me,so then whats a good-un look like then?,no blur on the label,anyway its stayin`real,till some smart alec,proves otherwise Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Benji Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 It dont to me,so then whats a good-un look like then?,no blur on the label,anyway its stayin`real,till some smart alec,proves otherwise it's a bootleg. original is credited to "case of tyme" and NOT to "james lewis and the case of tyme" (i think 'james lewis' was c/up title...) Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 (edited) it's a bootleg. original is credited to "case of tyme" and NOT to "james lewis and the case of tyme" (i think 'james lewis' was c/up title...) Ah well,s`pose!! cheers Benji,will be removed imediatly,from me good box ,wouldnt mind a good-un`,scan anybody?. Edited August 21, 2006 by ken Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 it's a bootleg. original is credited to "case of tyme" and NOT to "james lewis and the case of tyme" (i think 'james lewis' was c/up title...) Thats not correct Benji, James Lewis is the original (though there's a Case Of Time as well). Ken's copy is a bootleg though. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 Thats not correct Benji, James Lewis is the original (though there's a Case Of Time as well). Ken's copy is a bootleg though. Why? anybody scan................ its half in,and half out of me good box Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 Why? anybody scan................ its half in,and half out of me good box Well the word Legend should be in red Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 Well the word Legend should be in red Cheers Pete,it`ll look tidy in me crap box gonna` hold on to it though,pressin` plants are funny places,how much for a good-un`,and where can i get one?. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest miff Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 Why? anybody scan................ its half in,and half out of me good box Here you go Ken Sorry not for sale, paid 40 quid for mine last year Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 Here you go Ken Sorry not for sale, paid 40 quid for mine last year Nice one,Miff..............funny type setting,i want one,the boot looks better Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Baz Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 I've got a green one in the sales box Ken It will look much nicer than that yellow one! you know you want it Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 I've got a green one in the sales box Ken It will look much nicer than that yellow one! you know you want it Yuk!!no how about a scan,might aswell have em` all,in me little thread ,i think mine looks cooooool,thats about it though Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Baz Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 Yuk!!no how about a scan,might aswell have em` all,in me little thread ,i think mine looks cooooool,thats about it though Will do it when i get home no scanner and amazingly i dont keep my vinyl at work either Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
grant Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 I've got a green one in the sales box Ken It will look much nicer than that yellow one! you know you want it Green is a boot aint it? ....but checkout popsike as on eof these went on ebay in 2004 for £60 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Sebastian Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 Here you go Ken Sorry not for sale, paid 40 quid for mine last year According to Manship: "styrene original with ZTSC scratched in matrix, vinyl copies with moulded over labels are bootlegs!" Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 According to Manship: "styrene original with ZTSC scratched in matrix, vinyl copies with moulded over labels are bootlegs!" Spanner in the works for Miff,lets have scans of em` all,needs sorting,will a styrene copy owner please stand up,we need a scan then you can sell me it............ Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest miff Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 Now ime worried mines got no beveled and the matrix No L1014 A scratched in the run out, got it off a dealer on the assurance it was 100 % original can some one please confirm for me Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 Now ime worried mines got no beveled and the matrix No L1014 A scratched in the run out, got it off a dealer on the assurance it was 100 % original can some one please confirm for me Well new life added to me thread,just sorry it was the barer of bad news Miff,sombody put us out of our missery,scan of the real original............somebody? and then sell me it,cause i think were finding out how rare this really is!!,and wont be able to afford this ever couldnt be a east/west/south thing going off with various pressing plants could it?. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 Come on,where are all the soul boffins when you need em` Well new life added to me thread,just sorry it was the barer of bad news Miff,sombody put us out of our missery,scan of the real original............somebody? and then sell me it,cause i think were finding out how rare this really is!!,and wont be able to afford this ever couldnt be a east/west/south thing going off with various pressing plants could it?. Ken Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest miff Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 Heres the scan off popspke ken, sold for 60 quid listed as a second issue last year Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest miff Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 Green one on mansips 15 quid https://www.raresoulman.co.uk/d/48547/CASE+OF+TYME Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 Heres the scan off popspke ken, sold for 60 quid listed as a second issue last year Cheers Miff,seen em differant than this too,i`m gonna` sell mine as rarer local issue Come on sourcer`s,how many diferent boot/re-issues/originals can we post,on this. Quote Miff,a few mins ago Now ime worried mines got no beveled and the matrix No L1014 A scratched in the run out, got it off a dealer on the assurance it was 100 % original can some one please confirm for me Come on Miff,name and shame,cant have dealers selling this stuff,as real,can we? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest miff Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 Ken can't name as not 100% sure which one it was, to be honest ime suprised this has'nt happend to me before the state i get into at such events can only be one of 3 as they were the only ones there and it wasnt one of them as i know him and would remember buying it from him Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
45cellar Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 (edited) Ken can't name as not 100% sure which one it was, to be honest ime suprised this has'nt happend to me before the state i get into at such events can only be one of 3 as they were the only ones there and it wasnt one of them as i know him and would remember buying it from him Hi All This is the 100% original Styrene copy with Green Stick On Label and Scratched ZTSC Matrix I hope this helps Edited August 21, 2006 by 45cellar Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 (edited) Hi All This is the 100% original Styrene copy with Green Stick On Label and Scratched ZTSC Matrix I hope this helps Not really,you havent said how much you selling me it for? :unsure:and the yellow one,is 1014.....................so might be,first of J Lewis version? Edited August 21, 2006 by ken Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Benji Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 (edited) Thats not correct Benji, James Lewis is the original (though there's a Case Of Time as well). Ken's copy is a bootleg though. doh, pete, you're right. didn't have the manship guide at hand when i posted. original "case of tyme" is green with stamped ZTSC matrix. manship guide doesn't really say there's an original crediting "james lewis ...", he says "bootlegged twice with a yellow label black lettering. once in vinyl, once in styrene, delta #102883" IMO this means, there's no original "james lewis...", what do you think? Edited August 21, 2006 by benji Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 (edited) doh, pete, you're right. didn't have the manship guide at hand when i posted. original "case of tyme" is green with stamped ZTSC matrix. manship guide doesn't really say there's an original crediting "james lewis ...", he says "bootlegged twice with a yellow label black lettering. once in vinyl, once in styrene, delta #102883" IMO this means, there's no original "james lewis...", what do you think? Yes my yellow one Not really,you havent said how much you selling me it for? :unsure:and the yellow one,is 1014.....................so might be,first of J Lewis version?,plus differant production,so not trying to copy label,i wonder if they are not the same record,dif version? Edited August 21, 2006 by ken Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
45cellar Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 (edited) Not really,you havent said how much you selling me it for? I'm Still collecting, I'm afraid - I have had this copy since the 1970's I know that there are plenty of Boots, but I thought there were still a few originals about I do have the Yellow & Red copy which I got after the Green copy, however it wasn't from the same reliable source. I bought the Yellow & Red for the Label Information as it is unplayable but I was assured that the Yellow & Red was the second time out for this, which is something that I can't 100% confirm Edited August 21, 2006 by 45cellar Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 I'm Still collecting, I'm afraid - I have had this copy since the 1970's I know that there are plenty of Boots, but I thought there were still a few originals about Join the line of loser`s,matrix is suposed to be stamped in Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
45cellar Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 (edited) Join the line of loser`s,matrix is suposed to be stamped in I think that you will find that Information is not 100% correct, even thought it says it in the book. I'm happy with my copy Check this out and you'll see what I mean https://www.raresoulman.co.uk/d/73112/CASE+OF+TYME I hope you find a copy All the best Edited August 21, 2006 by 45cellar Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 (edited) I think that you will find that Information is not 100% correct, even thought it says it in the book. I'm happy with my copy............ I`m gettin` happier with mine aswell,seems there is no definitive answer?,rather have yours,yours is best so far!! can we have one with a stamp?please. Anyway i thought a boot would try and keep the same numbers ie;1014,or what did they boot em` from,i`m thinking a later first of James Lewis,i mean they reissued "dont it make you feel funky",and thats worth loads. Edited August 21, 2006 by ken Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest miff Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 I think that you will find that Information is not 100% correct, even thought it says it in the book. I'm happy with my copy Not convinced mines noy legit yet my own limited knowledge is kens is a boot also so white ones as I rember them coming out also that the green ones are boots unless the matrix is stamped in my understading was that yellow with the ledgend in red where real as mine is. Pete s sees to be saying the same also the guy that sold it to me saying that if some one can come on and post up mines a boot and a good reson /explanation or is a well informed collector of note or I know them I will except it Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 Not convinced mines noy legit yet my own limited knowledge is kens is a boot also so white ones as I rember them coming out also that the green ones are boots unless the matrix is stamped in my understading was that yellow with the ledgend in red where real as mine is. Pete s sees to be saying the same also the guy that sold it to me saying that if some one can come on and post up mines a boot and a good reson /explanation or is a well informed collector of note or I know them I will except it The yellow ones are usualy smudged and very shiney and very thin not nice like mine.. So nobody yet? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest miff Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 Green one on mansips 15 quid https://www.raresoulman.co.uk/d/48547/CASE+OF+TYME So why is this only 15 quid Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 (edited) So why is this only 15 quid Cause its vinyl,not styrene i think?,just one of many aledged boots Edited August 21, 2006 by ken Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest miff Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 Ken seems strange weve had no posts from the big guns on site, come on you lot it obvious we dont know what were talking about some one please put us right or is it that your were| right when you said there is no correct answer and we all got real ones Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 Ken seems strange weve had no posts from the big guns on site, come on you lot it obvious we dont know what were talking about some one please put us right or is it that your were| right when you said there is no correct answer and we all got real ones They dont like me......................fukc em` Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 (edited) They dont like me......................fukc em` Bump Ken Quote Miff,earlier seems strange weve had no posts from the big guns on site, come on you lot it obvious we dont know what were talking about some one please put us right or is it that your were| right when you said there is no correct answer and we all got real ones Edited August 21, 2006 by ken Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
45cellar Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 (edited) Bump Ken Quote Miff,earlier seems strange weve had no posts from the big guns on site, come on you lot it obvious we dont know what were talking about some one please put us right or is it that your were| right when you said there is no correct answer and we all got real ones Hi All Just a point, not all long standing collectors are well known, and they still have 1000's of Rare Records. Just because that person isn't a "Big Gun" or known, they have still aquired knowledge over the years and are sharing what they know with you. I stand by my copy with the Green Label, on Styrene with the Scratched in Matrix. . You mention Joe Hicks - Don't It Make You Feel Funky - AGC Here is an Original; It is on Vinyl Delta 70422-X I bought It around the same time I will try to help anyone when I can with any information when I am certain is correct. We are all still learning, and gaining fresh information on these records as we collect, AND we can all be wrong from time to time as there are surprises out there. Any time I can help with Information, I will Edited August 21, 2006 by 45cellar Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 Hi All Just a point, not all long standing collectors are well known, and still have 1000's of Rare Records Just because that person isn't a "Big Gun" or known, they have still aquired knowledge over the years and are sharing what they know with you. I stand by my copy with the Green Label, on Styrene with the Scratched in Matrix. . You mention Joe Hicks - Don't It Make You Feel Funky - AGC Here is an Original; It is on Vinyl Delta 70422-X I bought It around the same time I will try to help anyone when I can with information when I am certain is correct. We are all still learning, and gaining fresh information on these records as we collect. Just be nice for a bit of input from the Big guns,is that alot to ask?,and Joe Hikcs got reissued,differant B-side and expencive and i would say your green one was 100% the real deal,"manifesto" that is!!,cheers 45 cellar............top banana Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
45cellar Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 Just be nice for a bit of input from the Big guns,is that alot to ask?,and Joe Hikcs got reissued,differant B-side and expencive and i would say your green one was 100% the real deal,"manifesto" that is!!,cheers 45 cellar............top banana Hi Ken I must admit that I can't understand why there hasn't been more input on this. You are right, it's not a lot to ask. We should share knowledge, because as I say we are all still learning Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Baz Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 Might get a bit more interest if you change the title to........case of tyme boot or not? or summin along them lines, then maybe an expert on that area might notice it ect Just went to look for my green copy to see if its on Vinyl or Styrene but its gone must ave sold it, so Ken your safe from that one Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mark B Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 i am not a big gun but i always thought that it was yellow with red writing that were the originals. mark more of a saturday night special than a magnum Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 Might get a bit more interest if you change the title to........case of tyme boot or not? or summin along them lines, then maybe an expert on that area might notice it ect Just went to look for my green copy to see if its on Vinyl or Styrene but its gone must ave sold it, so Ken your safe from that one Cant change it,can i?,can you?bet it was styrene Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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