Soul Nights - Dwindling Attendances?

[Guest Simon]

Well look, if I wanted to hear crossover, modern or new releases, I'd go to a night which advertised them, but if it says northern soul night, I'd be expecting to hear none of the above but would expect to hear northern soul which as everyone knows, is predomanently 60's music.

For me the whole thing has become too fragmented, when i first started going to dos which was only about 10 years ago the whole thing seemed so much simpler, you'd go to any venue that advertised Northern Soul & that's exactly what you'd hear good old Northern Soul music, maybe that was just the venues i was going to but it definitely seemed much clearer, now it all seems very confusing, new genres & sub genres of supposed Northern Soul music have sprung up all over the place & unless you know the promoters & djs really well you're not always quite sure what you are getting.

I know new releases have always been played on the scene but i can't seee any connection personally between the likes of Angie Stone/Drizabone & the likes of your classic NS like 'Better use your head' etc... For me the idea of Northern Soul was always to whip you up into a frenzy not send you into a deep sleep!

All IMHO of course...

Simon

[Guest dundeedavie]

maybe they should be prosecuted under the trades description act

i asked that about certain clubs descriptions of their dj's ie one of the finest in europe etc and i think people thought i was joking

i've been through this in an "on the scene " column and my opinion was ....

too many do's offering the same as established venues

all the same dj's at these established venues and there is only 2 reasons anyone should start up a new night

• geography .....in that there is nothing else in your area
  
• playlist ....if you are offering something that no one else is catering for
  

[Dave Thorley]

Well Dave, as I said in my first post, I keep getting pestered to revive 'Pitches' - which for several years was a hugely succesful monthly Soul Night.

I dont feel I've got the time or inclination to promote at the moment but am constantly pressured to do something, so (although I have my doubts) I might well consider it next year - once I've mopped up a few other urgent projects.

But purely as a punter I'd be interested to know where you can go to for a good night out!

The scene seems to me (judging by the responses) to be more fragmented than ever, with all manner of different nights and DJ's doing their own thing at a local level.

Fine, if that's how its to be, but where can you go on a regular basis to guarantee a good night of Soul Music (across the board or otherwise)?

Its ironic that the 'V festival' is on this wekend attracting tens of thousands of young (and not so young) music lovers and yet we, the Soul scene, seem to be really struggling (from what I've been told so far on here).

Therefore, I need to know!

How many people attend your local Soul Night?

What's the Music Policy and

Where is it held?

Really valuable feedback so far, from Promoters and Punters.

Very much appreciated.

Many thanks

Sean Hampsey

Interesting that you mention V Festival. If you look at that, Glastenbury, Tribal Gathering etc... in some ways the problem is the same, fragmentation constant within most music genre. But how they approach it is to put on as many as 6 sound stages or dance arena's. Even at our largest weekenders you only get 3. Now can you run a soul night, allnighter, with 4 or 5 rooms, maybe but who is going to take the financial gamble. If you follow threads on here you could easliy do it. 60's Northern room, R&B room, 70's/80's Crossover/Modern room, Contempary Soul room, Soulful House room, Latin room (just for Gavin). If I had the money I would be even tempted to do it. But to do it well you would need to put up £8k-£10k before you even opened the doors.

Just a thought

[Guest]

Sean.... simple answer from how I see it.... TOO many localish nites "deciding" to open up cause they see "others" doing alright..... reasoning probably is they don't realise, or see, that because they want to "make a quick buck" it impacts on other established nites of say the last 4-7 years or so....

3-5 years ago there was a "nice" amount of local do's, and more predominant events/niters, that kept things going.... now, by that I mean last 2-3 yrs, you get "joe bloggs and his mate" starting another "new" nite.... be it from either a northern, accross the board or modern point of view/policy....

One other point I think comes into play, through talking with other folk, is that the (and I'm only quoting the term I've heard over the last few years) "returnees" have come back, seen what's going off around the country, gone to quite a few nites/niters over the last 2-3 years, had their "belly full" and now can "pick and choose" where they go, and how often, due to my 1st paragraph.... TOO much happening so even the "better" established places begin to suffer....

This is only my opinion Sean from conversations had over the last 2 or so years around this very subject.... "die hards" like me, yourself and others are the ones feeling the impact now....

Your quite right Joe regards Ponds Forge that I'm involved in.... no denying....

Up to about 12ish months ago we had a very healthy crowd in.... it peaked on near 250 (quoted capacity) about 2-3 years ago for a few months after long, prolonged promotion in the area.... this decline, to me, is due to my "opinion" on this topic to Sean as to why we, and others, have been "hit" with numbers down....

About 2-3 months ago this "hit home" to us when the head count was well down.... we were aware of other "new" nights in the month having started, and of some "local politics" going off that we were shut/cancelled (along with other local do's, long standing, receiving the same sort of sh*t).... also had heard/got told something new locally was to be started by a "bigger" promoter wanting South Yorkshire as their next venture.... I must say that this has never materialised and no one can actually tell us "who" told them all this closed/new info....

We, as long standing local promoters, hit back in July with with a FREE nite to show that we do, indeed, do it for the love of the music and not as promotional entrenpeneurs..... we stood all costs that nite.... word went round and we had a head count, according to the doorman, of near on 160.... not upto it's best, I know, but it was "better".... last one, August, was the normal pay on the door nite and we sustained similar numbers....

Having said all this, I still think my response/answer to Sean (above) accounts for a lot of the decline....

As for Joe's statement re R&B tyope do's above, I can't comment on the reason why those type of nights haven't been affected.... unless perhaps those are the ones where "new/unknown" stuff grabs people's attention.... or, and of cousre, the punter's are deaf .... sorry Joe, only joking....

Malc.... don't know you personally.... but know of you very well by name round "our" parts....

Re Summer months.... about 2-3 years ago I would've agreed.... not these days.... again referring to my response to Sean for reasons....

Al Taylor, who I do know very well in person, that used to run the CP @ Mexborougfh with Reg before I became aware that you'd took it over earlier this year, had a similar downturn in numbers around the same time as us.... we (PF crew) and he (alan) discussed this on numerous occasions (at both venues) and, usually following it being late with ale inside us, could never understand why as "we" all enjoyed all the nights (PF & CP) and passed it of for a couple or three months with the "holiday/wirk" excuses.... later "we" realised it was associated with what I've replied to Sean (above).... for those two reasons (new nites & returnees) alone I don't think things will drastically improve....

Right.... my door bells gone 5 mins ago.... I'm getting shouted to "come on".... so I'm off to the Greatstone now.... and remember, this post is only my opinion as I see it from discussions/comments around the same self subject.... will check back later on this thread for other responses/repies/opinions....

KEEP IT SOULFUL ....

Hi Mark ....

Thanks for your reply & your comments . Besides still sticking to my guns about the summer months ( agreed on last night at the CP by Dave Raistrick ), I fully agree with your statement regarding new nights & returnees / departees contributing an effect in respect of reduced attendances . Firstly , when the resurgence in / of interest in the scene happened 3 - 4 years ago , with the return of " exiles " , the effect it had for venue attendances was a good one - old faces and friends were back " in the fold " , and it was akin to the high ( sorry , no pun intended ) times of the " old days " . A lot of those returnees have stayed with us and enjoying what we have to offer , but sadly , it has not been so for all of them . I have found that renewed enthusiasm in being " back on the

scene " for many was short lived . I have asked these these people as to why they do not go anymore to the CP or wherever , the answer I have been given is " It's not like it used to be " . What can you say to them ? what defence in our favour can you offer ? We can have a good venue , good and experienced DJs and great music , but If it is not to their " liking " , there is nothing you can do . The scene is not " like it used to be " ( thank god ) 20 - 25 - 30 years ago : it has - like life in general - moved on .

Secondly , as for too many venues , this is now a fact of life , whether we like it or not . The " Northern Soul " scene is currently a " popularist " movement for many , and is suffering from what I call the " Cliff Richard in The Young Ones " ( the film , not the TV show with Rik Mayall - stay with me on this ) syndrome : what I mean is that CR in TYO went about saying " hey guys and girls , I've got a good idea - let's put a dance

on ! " . This scenario , of putting a " dance on " ( even though it has always been part of the scene for many years ) , is now rife ; the renewed popularity of the scene has meant that we have seen countless new promoters announcing a soul night / soul nights in everything from 5 -star hotels to scout huts ; This ultimately has created a frankenstein monster . You only have to look at the amount of handbills put out at any venue to confirm this . The sheer number of venue choice for people - I have seen up to twelve nights on one date recently - results in them having no end of options . Until the fashion for putting " soul nights " on diminishes , it will mean that regular numbers for long established venues - coupled with the summer months ( still sticking with that Mark ) will , for time to come , will be down .

Malc Burton

[Guest recordman]

Well Dave, as I said in my first post, I keep getting pestered to revive 'Pitches' - which for several years was a hugely succesful monthly Soul Night.

I dont feel I've got the time or inclination to promote at the moment but am constantly pressured to do something, so (although I have my doubts) I might well consider it next year - once I've mopped up a few other urgent projects.

But purely as a punter I'd be interested to know where you can go to for a good night out!

The scene seems to me (judging by the responses) to be more fragmented than ever, with all manner of different nights and DJ's doing their own thing at a local level.

Fine, if that's how its to be, but where can you go on a regular basis to guarantee a good night of Soul Music (across the board or otherwise)?

Its ironic that the 'V festival' is on this wekend attracting tens of thousands of young (and not so young) music lovers and yet we, the Soul scene, seem to be really struggling (from what I've been told so far on here).

Therefore, I need to know!

How many people attend your local Soul Night?

What's the Music Policy and

Where is it held?

Really valuable feedback so far, from Promoters and Punters.

Very much appreciated.

Many thanks

Sean Hampsey

Just Some General points not specific to you Sean

Specialist soul music events offering a specificic type of playlist are always going to appeal to a lesser minority.

When will people realise that half the punters on the soul scene in my opinion could not give a sod wether it's rare what the label is or who it's by.

If it's good they will dance to it

It's about attending an event.

I've put events on and been at my wits end when punters have gone to another event other than mine and when I ask those same people a few days later what was it like they have said to me things like " We know the music is better at your event " and when I ask why did you go then ? the answer was ..." Well Everyone Was Going " I'm sure if you have been a promoter you must have experinced comments such as these !!

Regarding your request for feedback on trying to analise how to pitch your promotion shows you are thinking about key things such as :-

Who am I aiming my event at ?

What will make them come to my event ? if you like my USP ( unique selling point ) eg what's in it for them

Try thinking about it as your own business venture

My advice for what it's worth is If you are thinking about lauching a new event great but take on board some of these considerations

[Guest Bogue]

" Cliff Richard in The Young Ones " ( the film , not the TV show with Rik Mayall - stay with me on this )

You've been reading Rik's autobiography too then Malc ?. Bit of a bizarre one, more like an episode from Bottom. Funny in parts though

Back to the post, I think you have put the points over really well

Just like to add though, to all those complaining about too many N Soul nights & venues.

Surely that is just life ! it's called "Free Enterprise" & represents everyone's right to compete in a free market ! Or do they think that because it is "Northern Soul" it should be a Communist state where you are only allowed to compete if the powers that be say so ?

& if you want to compete in a free market you have to adapt & be better than the next man !

Surely having "too much" choice is better than having none ! It will eventually even out & will probably oust those only in it for the money, which i would say, can only be a good thing !

Edited August 20, 2006 by Bogue

[Sean Hampsey]

Hi Mark ....

Thanks for your reply & your comments . Besides still sticking to my guns about the summer months ( agreed on last night at the CP by Dave Raistrick ), I fully agree with your statement regarding new nights & returnees / departees contributing an effect in respect of reduced attendances . Firstly , when the resurgence in / of interest in the scene happened 3 - 4 years ago , with the return of " exiles " , the effect it had for venue attendances was a good one - old faces and friends were back " in the fold " , and it was akin to the high ( sorry , no pun intended ) times of the " old days " . A lot of those returnees have stayed with us and enjoying what we have to offer , but sadly , it has not been so for all of them . I have found that renewed enthusiasm in being " back on the

scene " for many was short lived . I have asked these these people as to why they do not go anymore to the CP or wherever , the answer I have been given is " It's not like it used to be " . What can you say to them ? what defence in our favour can you offer ? We can have a good venue , good and experienced DJs and great music , but If it is not to their " liking " , there is nothing you can do . The scene is not " like it used to be " ( thank god ) 20 - 25 - 30 years ago : it has - like life in general - moved on .

Secondly , as for too many venues , this is now a fact of life , whether we like it or not . The " Northern Soul " scene is currently a " popularist " movement for many , and is suffering from what I call the " Cliff Richard in The Young Ones " ( the film , not the TV show with Rik Mayall - stay with me on this ) syndrome : what I mean is that CR in TYO went about saying " hey guys and girls , I've got a good idea - let's put a dance

on ! " . This scenario , of putting a " dance on " ( even though it has always been part of the scene for many years ) , is now rife ; the renewed popularity of the scene has meant that we have seen countless new promoters announcing a soul night / soul nights in everything from 5 -star hotels to scout huts ; This ultimately has created a frankenstein monster . You only have to look at the amount of handbills put out at any venue to confirm this . The sheer number of venue choice for people - I have seen up to twelve nights on one date recently - results in them having no end of options . Until the fashion for putting " soul nights " on diminishes , it will mean that regular numbers for long established venues - coupled with the summer months ( still sticking with that Mark ) will , for time to come , will be down .

Malc Burton

Thanks for all your input Malc.

Would like to hear from a few more promoters (just see it as an opportunity to give it a plug! - OK)

How many punters attend the following venues... on a consistent basis?

The Orwell -Wigan

Greatsone

No More Doggin

Sheridans

Piercebridge

Sleepless Nights (Dublin)

Broughton

Banbury

99 Soul club - Scarborough

Corner Pocket Mexborough

Modernism - Rotherham

Ponds Forge - Sheffield

Bentink - Kirkby

Any I've missed? Please let me know.

Many thanks to all for information provided thus far.

Sean Hampsey

[Guest SteveO]

Been some great replies to Sean's post and some very vaid points.

For me the best venue music wise at the moment is The Polish Catholic club in Sheffield....why??? Music policy. It promises rare stuff and thats what you get... most of the time. Rare 60's and the numbers have been growing. I can only hope Wicksy and John Vincent maintain this policy...for me and alot of others, it works. Its a breath of fresh air compared to the clubs with the same resident DJ's/guest DJ's playing the same 300 played out tunes. Why listen to a so called DJ playing only pressings or CD's...If they aint got the original vinyl, get it or get off! You know who you are and you'll keep me away from ALL your nites.

Crap music bores me and I like to dance...so Music policy it is...and for me rare 60's.Pete Smith take a bow! Time to split the scene properly...long overdue!

[John Elias]

Been some great replies to Sean's post and some very vaid points.

For me the best venue music wise at the moment is The Polish Catholic club in Sheffield....why??? Music policy. It promises rare stuff and thats what you get... most of the time. Rare 60's and the numbers have been growing. I can only hope Wicksy and John Vincent maintain this policy...for me and alot of others, it works. Its a breath of fresh air compared to the clubs with the same resident DJ's/guest DJ's playing the same 300 played out tunes. Why listen to a so called DJ playing only pressings or CD's...If they aint got the original vinyl, get it or get off! You know who you are and you'll keep me away from ALL your nites.

Crap music bores me and I like to dance...so Music policy it is...and for me rare 60's.Pete Smith take a bow! Time to split the scene properly...long overdue!WELL SAID SIR

[Kev Connellan]

Would like to hear from a few more promoters.

How many punters attend the following venues... on a consistent basis?

No More Doggin

Hi Sean,

@ NMD we usually get approx 60 thru doors,

but last night we had nearer 100 (attandance has very slowly crept up over the last 3 years).

music policy -- lesser played 60's northern, RnB and early soul

[Dendog]

Many thanks for the comments so far.

What I'm intersted to know is not so much 'why' various Soul nights attendances are dwindling - if indeed they are at all - after all, I feel that all venues have a life span or life cycle of sorts, having been involved with various hot promotions over the years... that eventually went cold - but more about whats happening at your local gig, right now (this year) in terms of actual numbers through the door.

So, what I would really like to know is...

what's the average attendance?

whats the music policy?

where is the venue (location)?

Scientific huh?

Many thanks again

Sean

ALL VENUES ARE IN THE MIDLANDS

Reading what some have said regarding venues and the policy, it is of great importance to understand small venues with 70.or.80 soulies in!! a dance floor for 20ish only pleases some!! At the Fez possibly the biggest room in the midlands its our 2nd Anniversary this Friday and at first it was a struggle and very costly even in the early days my goal was to please as many soulies as poss now two years on sticking to what I believe, and dodging all the knives that was thrown from other "promoters" say that it will not work guess what still here pleasing over 140 at the last count

My mate back flip runs Kingsway Hall and keeps the Northern Soul Oldies Only policy same as the Fez and he gets 100+ most of the time

We as a team also run a bank holiday Monday at Forest Town Welfare we call it Festival Hall & Kingsway Togetherness with the same police and the same amount of soulies all go away to come back another day so I think we are doing something right.

Backflips new venue East Kirkby Miners welfare, both back flip and I was fed up with the weekenders, and saw a spot vacant for all the soulies that could not get or fed up with the ever so frequent weekenders that are popping up every month and killing the small venues!!! So East Kirkby is trying to please the 70 or so giving them some were to go. Djs for the 29th sep are Kev Smedly & Keith Banks two of the finest djs from the midlands and on the Sat 30th Gats & Martin Webster

We are both sorry for not pleasing the people that want to listen to, I think its called crossover modern floor fillers we only play and beleave Northern Soul Oldies it must stay alive we itntend to do what we have to do

SO Sean

OLDIES ONLY WHERE IT ALL STARTED

K.T.F

Dendog

Edited August 20, 2006 by Dendog

[Madmandy]

ALL VENUES ARE IN THE MIDLANDS

Reading what some have said regarding venues and the policy, it is of great importance to understand small venues with 70.or.80 soulies in!! a dance floor for 20ish only pleases some!! At the Fez possibly the biggest room in the midlands its our 2nd Anniversary this Friday and at first it was a struggle and very costly even in the early days my goal was to please as many soulies as poss now two years on sticking to what I believe, and dodging all the knives that was thrown from other "promoters" say that it will not work guess what still here pleasing over 140 at the last count

My mate back flip runs Kingsway Hall and keeps the Northern Soul Oldies Only policy same as the Fez and he gets 100+ most of the time

We as a team also run a bank holiday Monday at Forest Town Welfare we call it Festival Hall & Kingsway Togetherness with the same police and the same amount of soulies all go away to come back another day so I think we are doing something right.

Backflips new venue East Kirkby Miners welfare, both back flip and I was fed up with the weekenders, and saw a spot vacant for all the soulies that could not get or fed up with the ever so frequent weekenders that are popping up every month and killing the small venues!!! So East Kirkby is trying to please the 70 or so giving them some were to go. Djs for the 29th sep are Kev Smedly & Keith Banks two of the finest djs from the midlands and on the Sat 30th Gats & Martin Webster

We are both sorry for not pleasing the people that want to listen to, I think its called crossover modern floor fillers we only play and beleave Northern Soul Oldies it must stay alive we itntend to do what we have to do

SO Sean

OLDIES ONLY WHERE IT ALL STARTED

K.T.F

Dendog

Hey Mr Dendog

I m a regular attendee at all of these venues and you do what you say

on the tin!!

PLAY OLDIES

some of us are still catching up to the veterans on the scene who say oldies are old hat!

BULLY!!!

I love the classic stuff

I travel to forest town ( see you on the next one btw)

kingsway

the fez

bentinck

these are regular spots for me

I have been further afield but still love the music policy locally and I say

keep on keepin on cos what youre doing brings us back every time

Mand :0) the happy soulie

[Dendog]

Hey Mr Dendog

I m a regular attendee at all of these venues and you do what you say

on the tin!!

PLAY OLDIES

some of us are still catching up to the veterans on the scene who say oldies are old hat!

BULLY!!!

I love the classic stuff

I travel to forest town ( see you on the next one btw)

kingsway

the fez

bentinck

these are regular spots for me

I have been further afield but still love the music policy locally and I say

keep on keepin on cos what youre doing brings us back every time

Mand :0) the happy soulie

Many Thanks Madmandy

Love the tee shirt can you get one for Glyn one size fits all please hes havin a bit of trouble betty i mean mandy cos hes my m8

see you at the weekend you can have two cds XXX keep up the taining both lookin fit

Edited August 20, 2006 by Dendog

[Guest]

Thanks for all your input Malc.

Would like to hear from a few more promoters (just see it as an opportunity to give it a plug! - OK)

How many punters attend the following venues... on a consistent basis?

The Orwell -Wigan

Greatsone

No More Doggin

Sheridans

Piercebridge

Sleepless Nights (Dublin)

Broughton

Banbury

99 Soul club - Scarborough

Corner Pocket Mexborough

Modernism - Rotherham

Ponds Forge - Sheffield

Bentink - Kirkby

Any I've missed? Please let me know.

Many thanks to all for information provided thus far.

Sean Hampsey

Hi Sean

I help Harry on the door at Piercebridge. It has been running since last October, so not quite a year now. He has them roughly every 2 months, but it was a longer gap in the summer, mainly because the hotel was booked up, weddings, etc. Each time there was been around 300 to 350, which is really good going. Hope it stays like that.

I know I am bias, but the venue is awesome & the music is quite good too!

Hope you can make it on Sunday.

Kirsty

Kirsty

[Sean Hampsey]

Been some great replies to Sean's post and some very vaid points.

For me the best venue music wise at the moment is The Polish Catholic club in Sheffield....why??? Music policy. It promises rare stuff and thats what you get... most of the time.

Many thanks SteveO

Is this on Ecclesall Road?

Sean

Hi Sean,

@ NMD we usually get approx 60 thru doors,

but last night we had nearer 100 (attandance has very slowly crept up over the last 3 years).

music policy -- lesser played 60's northern, RnB and early soul

Many thanks Kev.

Just what I wanted to know.

Sean

ALL VENUES ARE IN THE MIDLANDS

Reading what some have said regarding venues and the policy, it is of great importance to understand small venues with 70.or.80 soulies in!! a dance floor for 20ish only pleases some!! At the Fez possibly the biggest room in the midlands its our 2nd Anniversary this Friday and at first it was a struggle and very costly even in the early days my goal was to please as many soulies as poss now two years on sticking to what I believe, and dodging all the knives that was thrown from other "promoters" say that it will not work guess what still here pleasing over 140 at the last count

My mate back flip runs Kingsway Hall and keeps the Northern Soul Oldies Only policy same as the Fez and he gets 100+ most of the time

We as a team also run a bank holiday Monday at Forest Town Welfare we call it Festival Hall & Kingsway Togetherness with the same police and the same amount of soulies all go away to come back another day so I think we are doing something right.

Backflips new venue East Kirkby Miners welfare, both back flip and I was fed up with the weekenders, and saw a spot vacant for all the soulies that could not get or fed up with the ever so frequent weekenders that are popping up every month and killing the small venues!!! So East Kirkby is trying to please the 70 or so giving them some were to go. Djs for the 29th sep are Kev Smedly & Keith Banks two of the finest djs from the midlands and on the Sat 30th Gats & Martin Webster

We are both sorry for not pleasing the people that want to listen to, I think its called crossover modern floor fillers we only play and beleave Northern Soul Oldies it must stay alive we itntend to do what we have to do

SO Sean

OLDIES ONLY WHERE IT ALL STARTED

K.T.F

Dendog

Many thanks Dendog.

So is it only the 'Oldies' gigs that are getting the numbers through the door?

Anyone?

Sean

[Sean Hampsey]

Also, Many thanks Kirsty.

Please tell me more about the music policy.

'Quite Good' you say.

Is it ATB or Northern Oldies?

RSVP

Sean

[Guest ShaneH]

Been some great replies to Sean's post and some very vaid points.

For me the best venue music wise at the moment is The Polish Catholic club in Sheffield....why??? Music policy. It promises rare stuff and thats what you get... most of the time. Rare 60's and the numbers have been growing. I can only hope Wicksy and John Vincent maintain this policy...for me and alot of others, it works. Its a breath of fresh air compared to the clubs with the same resident DJ's/guest DJ's playing the same 300 played out tunes. Why listen to a so called DJ playing only pressings or CD's...If they aint got the original vinyl, get it or get off! You know who you are and you'll keep me away from ALL your nites.

Crap music bores me and I like to dance...so Music policy it is...and for me rare 60's.Pete Smith take a bow! Time to split the scene properly...long overdue!

nice venue, big dance floor and all the other things you expect from a good soul night.

rare stuff?

i have been a few times to this night. i know john vincent plays a few rare bits but you can't call this event 'rare soul' really. to me the policy is out and out oldies. however, no disrespect to the guys over there. its a well run soul night no doubt about it.

steveo, could you fill us in with the stuff being played there that you consider to be a 'breath of fresh air'?

Shane

[Bazza]

Been some great replies to Sean's post and some very vaid points.

For me the best venue music wise at the moment is The Polish Catholic club in Sheffield....why??? Music policy. It promises rare stuff and thats what you get... most of the time. Rare 60's and the numbers have been growing. I can only hope Wicksy and John Vincent maintain this policy...for me and alot of others, it works. Its a breath of fresh air compared to the clubs with the same resident DJ's/guest DJ's playing the same 300 played out tunes. Why listen to a so called DJ playing only pressings or CD's...If they aint got the original vinyl, get it or get off! You know who you are and you'll keep me away from ALL your nites.

Crap music bores me and I like to dance...so Music policy it is...and for me rare 60's.Pete Smith take a bow! Time to split the scene properly...long overdue!

Me and the lads an lasses usually go every month,not my fave venue ,infact gets a bit handbaggy now an then,Vincent aint in my top 5 list..one of the girls asked him about summat, he was very arrogant and condescending.she wont go again

Bazza

Edited August 21, 2006 by bazza

[Madmandy]

Many Thanks Madmandy

Love the tee shirt can you get one for Glyn one size fits all please hes havin a bit of trouble betty i mean mandy cos hes my m8

see you at the weekend you can have two cds XXX keep up the taining both lookin fit

Betty eh ?? youve been lookin havent you?? LOL

I posted the site where I got my T shirt But Glyn says they dont do fat balding git size!!!

see you very soon

Mand :O) the happy soulie

[Dendog]

Many thanks Dendog.

So is it only the 'Oldies' gigs that are getting the numbers through the door?

Anyone?

Sean

Edited August 21, 2006 by Dendog

[Sean Hampsey]

Many thanks Dendog.

sorry for going on Sean

dendog

No apologies necessary.

Comprehensive and extremely helpful.

Sean Hampsey

[Guest Rich]

Went to a cracking Soul night in Spondon, Derby, last night run by Colin Brown & Brian Goucher.

It was held at The Crown Inn.... a really 'tight' back room gig with Dancefloor, Stage, good Sound System, well stocked bar, more than ample seating... the works.

A bit like the Canal Tavern at Thorne all those years ago!

The line up included Brian himself and Fish with an absolutely superb guest set from... all the way from Lincoln... Andy "Tats" Taylor.

Sadly, attendance was low, and although a good night was had by all I was wondering if attendances are suffering (or not what they should be) elsewhere.

Do me a favour... What's the attendance at your 'regular' Soul Night these days and what's the music policy?

I'm not thinking about Niters, necessarily, but more about your regular monthly do!

The reason I ask is, every time I go out to a gig I'm asked "When are you guys starting up 'Pitches' again?"

Just thought I'd do a little research.

So what's happening out there?

Many thanks in advance.

Sean Hampsey

How well advertised was this Sean - I only tripped over it because I'd gone up to Derbys for a few days and somebody mentioned it in the pub Friday dinnertime. A great night though

I went to a 6T's do there recently for the first time and they regularly get 70-100 in apparently - and a lot of travellers. It was a lot sparser crowd-wise Friday though. But as you say, it's a great little venue.

On the subject of Pitches, I can always remember our youth stating, 'it's alright giving Pitches a miss this time, 'cos they'll do nowt but moan when there ain't a next time'.

For a change, he was right.

Edited August 21, 2006 by Rich

[Guest]

Also, Many thanks Kirsty.

Please tell me more about the music policy.

'Quite Good' you say.

Is it ATB or Northern Oldies?

RSVP

Sean

Hi Sean

I didnt explain myself very well there!. There are 2 rooms, 60's in one room & the other room is mainly 70's & crossover with a bit of modern.

Hope that helps.

Kirstyx

[Sharon Cooper]

A point in relation to attendances, Sean, could be the creation of factions within the scene on a local level.

Factions are not aways to do with music or music policy but often in relation to personalities.

There have been threads on this site over the years in regard to promoters trying to do other promoters down and that will always, I`m sure continue because thats within some peoples nature. There will always be people putting gigs on in competition with others. That again is in the nature of some and I am well aware that we are not about trying to change the way people behave, thats up to them but some, like us try to keep out of the confrontational aspects of this type of thing and therefore become choosy in where we go, not just because of music policy but also because of 'internal politics'. I work in a stressful work environment and I don't particularly want to be bothered with personality clashes etc when going out to what is when all is said and done 'just a night out'. I know that to some its 'A way of life' but even though we've been around this scene for 36 odd years and love it and always will, there are more important things worth living for

Just a thought.........................

Edited August 21, 2006 by bridget

[Mark B]

hi sean

Mark one half of the greatstone here, Tony is the other half.

music policy is 60's, 70's, crossover, lesser played known oldies some unknowns some R&B i wont call it a rare soul night as there are records played that are £5.00 and some £500.00 it is not just rarity it is quality.

I suppose we average about 70 through the door, july aug are usually quieter but last sat was a packer so cant say the holidays make a difference,

We have a good crowd of regulars, and our music policy attracts a lot of people to travel to hear what we are playing, we also support other like minded venues like soul or nothing, the 3 greyhounds, the big lock, and i love the orwell when i can get there.

We are lucky in that it is a small intimate club and holds probably 100 max we have had over 100 but it gets a bit uncomfortable. also we run till 3.00am so a bit extra compared to most venues.

we never tell a guest dj what he has to play we just tell them to play what they want they are not tied to make the dancefloor bounce (might be hard that as it is concrete), we have well known guests who love to dj at the greatstone like sam, arthur & keith money and we also give local collectors and dj's a chance to play their unknowns and favourites. next month we have Andy dyson.

anything else you want to know sean.

mark

[Guest Baz]

QUOTE(mark.b @ Aug 21 2006, 08:42 PM) link

music policy is 60's, 70's, crossover, lesser played known oldies some unknowns some R&B i wont call it a rare soul night as there are records played that are £5.00 and some £500.00 it is not just rarity it is quality.

Edited August 21, 2006 by Baz

[Kev Connellan]

Went to a cracking Soul night in Spondon, Derby, last night run by Colin Brown & Brian Goucher.

It was held at The Crown Inn.... a really 'tight' back room gig with Dancefloor, Stage, good Sound System, well stocked bar, more than ample seating... the works.

Colin also runs (with Sam Moore) another monthly nite at the Crown..........a 6Ts RnB/Soul nite.

Always well attended. Great atmosphere too

Also a Bank Holiday speacial there next Monday:

[Mark B]

QUOTE(mark.b @ Aug 21 2006, 08:42 PM) link

music policy is 60's, 70's, crossover, lesser played known oldies some unknowns some R&B i wont call it a rare soul night as there are records played that are £5.00 and some £500.00 it is not just rarity it is quality.

Hi Mark just a thought but rare to me dont always mean 'rare' as in 3 copys ect, i also view it as 'rare'ly herd

i know what you mean but sometimes hard to put into writing what you are trying to say.

mark

[Chris Anderton]

Willington Soul night was absolutely packed on Saturday night, standing room only, must have been near to capacity which is 300........

Chris

[Guest Dan]

I went to a 6T's do there recently for the first time and they regularly get 70-100 in apparently - and a lot of travellers.

I always avoid going to dos full of travellers. Last time I made that mistake I had my records nicked, my drive inadequately resurfaced and I found myself embroiled in a 72-round bare knuckle fight. Which was fixed, obviously.

My ideal soul night: lots of fit dorises (dorii?) in their 20s, barmaids in bierkeller/medieval wench-type outfits serving cellar temperature real ale and the music volume at a level conducive to conversation. I realise I'm not hardcore.

Talc, Federation Bitter and buzzy sound systems you can keep.

[Sean Hampsey]

How well advertised was this Sean - I only tripped over it because I'd gone up to Derbys for a few days and somebody mentioned it in the pub Friday dinnertime. A great night though

I went to a 6T's do there recently for the first time and they regularly get 70-100 in apparently - and a lot of travellers. It was a lot sparser crowd-wise Friday though. But as you say, it's a great little venue.

On the subject of Pitches, I can always remember our youth stating, 'it's alright giving Pitches a miss this time, 'cos they'll do nowt but moan when there ain't a next time'.

For a change, he was right.

Hi Rich,

I dont know how well it was advertised but glad you agree it was a great night!

Re Pitches: You Never Miss Your Water Until Your Well Runs Dry

Now aint that the truth!

Sean

[Fdsoul6345789]

Hi Sean,

can't really comment as to why the dwindling attendances at the local do's but a few things I think have to be taken into account at to why this is happening. Totally agree with you that a night such as you describe in Derby with a great line up such as MR GOUCHER and co deserves to be well attended and if it cannot attract a good crowd then it is such a shame, as for the Canal Tavern, Thorne don't think we will see the likes of that again - don't get me started beginning to get the hankies out when I think of it WHAT A VENUE. I basically think there are THREE reasons for the dwindling attendances.

1. FAR TOO MANY NIGHTS ON COMPETING FOR AN ALREADY REDUCING TRAVELLING CROWD.

2. COST INVOLVED WITH TRAVELLING A REALITIVELY SHORT DISTANCE IN COMPARATIVE TERMS, PETROL COSTS AND IF THE VENUE IS A LONG DISTANCE PEOPLE OF THE OPINION THAT THEY FEEL THE NEED TO STAY OVER AT A LOCAL HOSTELRY THAT BRINGS THE COST TO A SOARING AMOUNT.

3. PEOPLE LIKE MYSELF AND YOURSELF COLLECT VINYL DISCS YOU KNOW THOSE PESKY LITTLE THINGS THAT GET UNDER YOUR SKIN AND YOU HAVE TO OWN, THE COST OF THOSE RECORDS HAS RISEN ENORMOUSLY IN RECENT YEARS AND PEOPLE MAKE A DECISION TO CARRY ON COLLECTING AND NOT ATTENDING SO MANY THINGS AS THEY WOULD FAR RATHER BUY RECORDS. THEREFORE SOME TIMES YOU JUST CAN'T AFFORD TO DO BOTH.

HOPE YOU START UP PITCHES AS IT WAS BY ALL ACCOUNTS A MAGIC VENUE

RUN BY SOUL FANATICS AND VINYL FREAKS AS YOURSELF, JOHN BENSON AND KEV BRISCOE Plus THE ONE AND ONLY ANDY The Tats TAYLOR.

BEST OF LUCK MATE FRASER

[Sean Hampsey]

Top advice Recordman.

I'm pretty big on USP's myself!

Many thanks

Sean

[Sean Hampsey]

A point in relation to attendances, Sean, could be the creation of factions within the scene on a local level.

Factions are not aways to do with music or music policy but often in relation to personalities.

There have been threads on this site over the years in regard to promoters trying to do other promoters down and that will always, I`m sure continue because thats within some peoples nature. There will always be people putting gigs on in competition with others. That again is in the nature of some and I am well aware that we are not about trying to change the way people behave, thats up to them but some, like us try to keep out of the confrontational aspects of this type of thing and therefore become choosy in where we go, not just because of music policy but also because of 'internal politics'. I work in a stressful work environment and I don't particularly want to be bothered with personality clashes etc when going out to what is when all is said and done 'just a night out'. I know that to some its 'A way of life' but even though we've been around this scene for 36 odd years and love it and always will, there are more important things worth living for

Just a thought.........................

Fascinating and pretty deep observations Bridget.

So its often 'People' that attract or repel (as the case may be)?

Can't say I'd argue with that.

Also agree that a relaxing 'politics free' night is the ideal.

Many thanks for your input.

Sean

[Dave]

To put it simply there are two reasons for dwinddling attendances. Too many events and a steadily decreasing number of people going out.

Too many events because there's an abundance of people itching to put them on either to try to make a few bob or so that they and their mates can get behind the decks. The biggest pity to me is that those trying to play something different are the ones that seem to struggle the most.

Decreasing audience for these events because the number of soulies who decide to call it a day is far greater than the number of newcomers. Reallistically the scene has become a nostalgia/social scene. 90% of soulies are not interested in the music, they just want to go to the nearest event from time to time, hear the same 200 records (off boots or cd's if thats the format), have a few drinks and generally relive their youth. They won't travel for the sake of music policy, they just want the nearest, most familiar venues where their mates go.

Unfortunately it is just this attitude that puts off any younger people who like the music (and there are plenty). Potential newcomers soon shy away from being treated with suspicion and hearing about Wigan and etiquette from people dressed in 70's style clothes.

[Sean Hampsey]

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QUOTE(mark.b @ Aug 21 2006, 08:42 PM) link

hi sean

anything else you want to know sean.

mark

Sounds a cracker Mark.

Many thanks for the information.

Very helpful.

Sean

[Guest]

To put it simply there are two reasons for dwinddling attendances. Too many events and a steadily decreasing number of people going out.

Too many events because there's an abundance of people itching to put them on either to try to make a few bob or so that they and their mates can get behind the decks. The biggest pity to me is that those trying to play something different are the ones that seem to struggle the most.

Decreasing audience for these events because the number of soulies who decide to call it a day is far greater than the number of newcomers. Reallistically the scene has become a nostalgia/social scene. 90% of soulies are not interested in the music, they just want to go to the nearest event from time to time, hear the same 200 records (off boots or cd's if thats the format), have a few drinks and generally relive their youth. They won't travel for the sake of music policy, they just want the nearest, most familiar venues where their mates go.

Unfortunately it is just this attitude that puts off any younger people who like the music (and there are plenty). Potential newcomers soon shy away from being treated with suspicion and hearing about Wigan and etiquette from people dressed in 70's style clothes.

Totally and absolutely agree with your comments Dave. My son was very interested and attended soul nights regularly with us however as he got into mid-late teens he became all too well aware that he stood out like a sore thumb in the local less well attended nights and also became bored with the same stuff played over and over and also in seeing the same faces doing the rounds.We started to go further afield and experience different sounds which has been totally refreshing. He has now stopped coming along to soul events (partly because of the boredom/`too much like going down the local for a pint or two` syndrome/middle aged men and women looking shall we say at less than their best in the 70'`clothes worn and also because as a young man theres obviously the attraction of the female sex!!) He still enjoys listening to the records we buy but can't imagine there would be anything now which would attract him back apart from a large influx of females... .

Edited August 22, 2006 by mcFly

[Soulsmith]

To put it simply there are two reasons for dwinddling attendances. Too many events and a steadily decreasing number of people going out.

Too many events because there's an abundance of people itching to put them on either to try to make a few bob or so that they and their mates can get behind the decks. The biggest pity to me is that those trying to play something different are the ones that seem to struggle the most.

Decreasing audience for these events because the number of soulies who decide to call it a day is far greater than the number of newcomers. Reallistically the scene has become a nostalgia/social scene. 90% of soulies are not interested in the music, they just want to go to the nearest event from time to time, hear the same 200 records (off boots or cd's if thats the format), have a few drinks and generally relive their youth. They won't travel for the sake of music policy, they just want the nearest, most familiar venues where their mates go.

Unfortunately it is just this attitude that puts off any younger people who like the music (and there are plenty). Potential newcomers soon shy away from being treated with suspicion and hearing about Wigan and etiquette from people dressed in 70's style clothes.

Nail - hit - hammer - head - on

[Guest adlibsoul]

To put it simply there are two reasons for dwinddling attendances. Too many events and a steadily decreasing number of people going out.

Too many events because there's an abundance of people itching to put them on either to try to make a few bob or so that they and their mates can get behind the decks. The biggest pity to me is that those trying to play something different are the ones that seem to struggle the most.

Decreasing audience for these events because the number of soulies who decide to call it a day is far greater than the number of newcomers. Reallistically the scene has become a nostalgia/social scene. 90% of soulies are not interested in the music, they just want to go to the nearest event from time to time, hear the same 200 records (off boots or cd's if thats the format), have a few drinks and generally relive their youth. They won't travel for the sake of music policy, they just want the nearest, most familiar venues where their mates go.

Unfortunately it is just this attitude that puts off any younger people who like the music (and there are plenty). Potential newcomers soon shy away from being treated with suspicion and hearing about Wigan and etiquette from people dressed in 70's style clothes.

Agree with you Dave, there are a lot of youngsters out there who are into the music (especially the r&b side).As you know at Ad-lib we play a lot of original R&B and try to provide a Sat. night out to any interested parties be they soulies/Sat. night ravers or whatever .We welcome everyone irrespective of their prefered musical tastes.We don't buy into this so called "underground culture".The underground side of the scene died pre ' 70.It can't go on pretending it's an "exclusive" scene.We have to make more people "inclusive".When i talk to interested youngsters in local pubs they want to know if it's a good night out first and formost.Hopefully they may grow into the soul culture later ! There are a lot of youngsters willing to give soul nights a go but they won't come again if they're given labels like "tourists", "handbaggers","wallflowers"etc.They may not hear these comments on the night but i bet the atmosphere towards them makes them uncomfortable in some venues - not intentionally but just leaving them with a feeling of gate-crashing someones private party.Todays scene should be encouraging todays people.

[Guest Dan]

It can't go on pretending it's an "exclusive" scene.We have to make more people "inclusive".

spot on.

been saying this for nearly 25 years, since i was first involved. too many people looking down their noses.

to add to the debate, especially now we're probably (mainly) a drinking rather than a doing-anything-else sort of demographic, the drink-drive laws are a factor. i like my ale and i don't want to drink-drive. i know that's a bit sad (the ale being a factor, that is), but it's true.

[Sharon Cooper]

spot on.

been saying this for nearly 25 years, since i was first involved. too many people looking down their noses.

to add to the debate, especially now we're probably (mainly) a drinking rather than a doing-anything-else sort of demographic, the drink-drive laws are a factor. i like my ale and i don't want to drink-drive. i know that's a bit sad (the ale being a factor, that is), but it's true.

Edited August 22, 2006 by bridget

[Guest Netspeaky]

Thanks for all your input Malc.

Would like to hear from a few more promoters (just see it as an opportunity to give it a plug! - OK)

How many punters attend the following venues... on a consistent basis?

The Orwell -Wigan

Greatsone

No More Doggin

Sheridans

Piercebridge

Sleepless Nights (Dublin)

Broughton

Banbury

99 Soul club - Scarborough

Corner Pocket Mexborough

Modernism - Rotherham

Ponds Forge - Sheffield

Bentink - Kirkby

Any I've missed? Please let me know.

Many thanks to all for information provided thus far.

Sean Hampsey

BROUGHTON WINGS CLUB is always well supported, with a mix of regulars and people who come along to visit/hear a certain DJ. Music policy totally across the board, has been from day one, althought SAM does hate it when someone plays an R&B track. There were well over a 100 at last saturday do and a jolly good night it was with guest DJ's Mr & Mrs Fenn playing a good mix of tunes along with regular DJ's Brain & Sam. The next Broughton Wings is the annual Motown night, so if you are in the area come check it out.

[Sean Hampsey]

Hi Sean,

HOPE YOU START UP PITCHES AS IT WAS BY ALL ACCOUNTS A MAGIC VENUE

RUN BY SOUL FANATICS AND VINYL FREAKS AS YOURSELF, JOHN BENSON AND KEV BRISCOE Plus THE ONE AND ONLY ANDY The Tats TAYLOR.

BEST OF LUCK MATE FRASER

Hi Fraser,

Many thanks for your kind words Re: PITCHES and your observations on the state of the 'Club' scene.

Of course, distance never seems to be a problem for you... when it comes to travelling from Glasgow to Yarmouth.

Never known you to miss one. It just wouldn't be the same without you.

Keep in touch mate.

Sean

[Sean Hampsey]

As a footnote to all of this............ I've just heard that the next Colin Brown / Brian Goucher event at Spondon is to be held 22nd September with Guest DJ's Steve Guanori & Marl Houghton.

Both Steve & Mark are top drawer Soul DJ's (Soul Essence - Yarmouth regulars) and anyone who pays a visit will hear a real mix of quality stuff, I'm sure.

Just thought I'd give it a mention...

Also, still waiting for average numbers on a few of the events I listed earlier.

Anymore for anymore?

Come on fellas, don't be coy!

Many thanks for the excellent feedback / comments so far.

Very much appreciated.

Sean Hampsey

[billysbag]

As a footnote to all of this............ I've just heard that the next Colin Brown / Brian Goucher event at Spondon is to be held 22nd September with Guest DJ's Steve Guanori & Marl Houghton.

Both Steve & Mark are top drawer Soul DJ's (Soul Essence - Yarmouth regulars) and anyone who pays a visit will hear a real mix of quality stuff, I'm sure.

Just thought I'd give it a mention...

Also, still waiting for average numbers on a few of the events I listed earlier.

Anymore for anymore?

Come on fellas, don't be coy!

hi sean, ive been co running studio 1 in west mids for about 18 months now.we have two rooms and the monthly turn out is between 80-120.

We experience a strange phenomenon in that we attract some new people every month,which should indicate increasing numbers,but we dont seem able to keep the previous months clientele.however the previous months people will turn up again at a later date.

we changed the policy of the music quite a while back -room 1 known tunes with at least one quality guest,mr massey,ged parker,des parker,dave rimmer etc room 2 themed ie xover nights,r and b nights,local djs playing out of their boxes always proves popular.

hope this helps

bill

[Sean Hampsey]

Many thanks Bill.

Really good info.

I think the phenomenon you describe happens at a lot of venues... It's called "We Can Always Go Next Month" syndrome.

Ok, I've left this thread to hang for a few days... until the weekend.

Still waiting for average numbers on a few of the events I listed earlier.

For example.... How did the Orwell go?

I'm sure it was a cracker... but how many bodies through the door?

What about your local gig?

How many attended your local Soul Night this weekend?

Many thanks for the excellent feedback / comments so far.

TTFN

Sean Hampsey

[Guest soul_hull]

last two hull soul club (which i'm not involved with) nights that i've been to....

last one there was about 70 there, and was a really good night - good new venue too.

the previous one had.......11 people there! to be fair they were changing venues and had had some issues i believe. the new venue (trades and labour club) is ideal for a soul night. good dance floor, roomy, good bar. get there...

next one is friday 8th september - if you're in the area......

[Paul Conroy]

Sean

Been away on me hols, and reading through the replies you received there is none from the North East ( apart from Kirsty and Picerbridge) so hear we go

Up here we are suffering the same as the rest of the country, the attendances are dropping.I don't think it has anything to do with Holiday periods,myself personally there are too many events on in a small area which attracts a small number of people anyaway, and to make it worse they clash.

I've just recently stopped writing for Nsoul re the North East Scene, but when I did I attended every event possible up here and I noticed about a year ago attendances were dropping, Why??, well this is a personal view, the same tunes are being played, at the same time , bythe same DJ's!!! in the same order, it was becoming boring. I could go to an event on a Friday night and hear the same tunes on a Saturday night. there needed to a variation and sadly it is not happening, and to add what about clashing, here's a one for you last year me and me mate Micky Bishop who always accompanies me went to 5 do's in one night up here starting off in Newcastle, South Shields,Sunderland,Newton Aycliffe then Darlington, before returining to the Toon, there was ahandful in each event and to be honest there was not that much difference in the sounds that were played, these types of situations cannot help either

Me and Micky promoted The Fed, which sadly is no more, we were getting over 450 in and we used to ask what people wanted to hear, we even put out questioners at one event,the answer was 'we want something different' we did it and were criticised for not playing enough Oldies, because of this we suffered attendance wise at the next Fed. so we reverted back to Oldies with current floorfilles, got criticised again too many Oldies. We already had 2 rooms going the second being modern Room, so we decided to go for 3 rooms, extra costs meant we had to raise the price from a fiver to £7, from 4pm til 2.3am we had 29 DJ's on in all 3 rooms catering hopefully for everyone and his dog, it was starting to work but with all 3 rooms working great particually the Modern and Rare rooms, and if the new company which came in not trippled the costs of room hire our attendneces may have risen but I'm sure it would of stayed the same 450 plus, but we will never know

over the pst 5 years one club the Cumby in Newton Aycliffe has always been progressive in it's music policy,but even there the attendances suffered the lads have had to move to a smaller venue, others are trying like The Rolling Mills in Darlington and Bob Armstrongs new venture in Easington to play something different, not too sure what the attendances are like as I've not been able to go due to work and personal reasons, but the people I know who have attended say they have had healthy numbers

I have wondered if it would be best for venues to go Bi-monthly, you could still attend an event every month, support one event one month, another the next, so on and so on, this may raise attendances and stop the clashing

Sorry for going on a bit

All the best

Paul Conroy

[Guest]

I'm a resident at Pokes Soul in Stamford which over the last two years has built up a fine reputation...Ideally placed geographically, free parking, cheap booze and some fine jocks who know whats expected of them.

Att average 100+ but a great 100 who put no pressure on the jocks to fill the dance floor, over the last two years a format has evolved which seems to keep all attending happy.

https://www.soul-source.co.uk/index.p...m&album=636

Skip or SG do the 1st hour playing odd ball crossover and R/B

I do the 9-10 spot and attempt to look arround my collection to find them tunes where those listening tap along while suggesting "I aint erd this for 25 years" my playlist from last Friday

Lets have a Love In--The Flaming Emeralds

That Beat and Rythm--Richard Temple

Karate Boogaloo-- Jerry O

Your'e the love of my Life--Brenda Lee Jones

She's Putting you on--The United 4

Ronas Theme-- The RPM Generation

Just cant help myself-- The Volumes

The Fiestas--Think Smart

The Velvelettes-These Things will keep me loving you

The Elgins-Heaven must have sent you

Timothy Wilson--love is like an itching

The Sapphires--Got to have your love

The Rimshots--Do what you feel

Elusive--Babe Ruth

Kirk Franklin--Looking for you

The Fidels--Try a little harder

William Bonney-Love, love love

Jerk Baby Jerk--Smokey & The Fabulous Blades

Psychedelic Soul--Saxie Russel

Art Freeman--slippin around

Soloman King--The Beutiful Day

Johnny Wyatt--This thing called love

Lada Edmund Jnr--The Larue

Smudge 10-11 and plays his Brooks Bothers, Delarks, Bobby Kline mixed in with Lonely, Lonley girl am i

11-12 Guest...allways pick guests who never let us down.

12 to Finsh...Skip or SG again.

We do try and keep those that have supported us happy, I guess if we didn't we'd be playing to an empty venue.

cya

Edited August 28, 2006 by PaulDonely

[Guest]

I'm a resident at Pokes Soul in Stamford which over the last two years has built up a fine reputation...Ideally placed geographically, free parking, cheap booze and some fine jocks who know whats expected of them.

Att average 100+ but a great 100 who put no pressure on the jocks to fill the dance floor, over the last two years a format has evolved which seems to keep all attending happy.

Skip or SG do the 1st hour playing odd ball crossover and R/B

I do the 9-10 spot and attempt to look arround my collection to find them tunes where those listening tap along while suggesting "I aint erd this for 25 years" my playlist from last Friday

Lets have a Love In--The Flaming Emeralds

That Beat and Rythm--Richard Temple

Karate Boogaloo-- Jerry O

Your'e the love of my Life--Brenda Lee Jones

She's Putting you on--The United 4

Ronas Theme-- The RPM Generation

Just cant help myself-- The Volumes

The Fiestas--Think Smart

The Velvelettes-These Things will keep me loving you

The Elgins-Heaven must have sent you

Timothy Wilson--love is like an itching

The Sapphires--Got to have your love

The Rimshots--Do what you feel

Elusive--Babe Ruth

Kirk Franklin--Looking for you

The Fidels--Try a little harder

William Bonney-Love, love love

Jerk Baby Jerk--Smokey & The Fabulous Blades

Psychedelic Soul--Saxie Russel

Art Freeman--slippin around

Soloman King--The Beutiful Day

Johnny Wyatt--This thing called love

Lada Edmund Jnr--The Larue

Smudge 10-11 and plays his Brooks Bothers, Delarks, Bobby Kline mixed in with Lonely, Lonley girl am i

11-12 Guest...allways pick guests who never let us down.

12 to Finsh...Skip or SG again.

We do try and keep those that have supported us happy, I guess if we didn't we'd be playing to an empty venue.

cya

true PD stamford is spot on (last one reviewed on www.playsforplaytime.org and there's some pix just posted on soul source, for me it's a success because the variety of QUALITY soul music played, may it go on for ever more.