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Sorry Ian No way.

Shawn Robinson was never played at the Torch.

 

Are you sure Kev? I seem to remember this being an oldie long before Wigan. Plus I can remember the Cleckheaton lads singing it's praises after a Saturday at the Torch. Just had a quick search around and I'm not the only one who had this down as the Torch. Who had it first I wonder......?

 

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I thought Pearlean Grey was a Torch oldie? Certainly one of the pre-Wigan clubs.

hullsoul
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Me..........love it.Can pick holes in it left right & centre but it just takes me back to my early days,just like Poppies,Tiffianies,Jeanette Harper etc. Plus it's the first record I

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  https://www.mixcloud.com/mayfairmenthol/northern-soul-the-casino-years-1973-to-1975-part-one/   Okay this is how it really was, warts and all.  In this next set of podcasts,

John Parker Long Time

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Are you sure Kev? I seem to remember this being an oldie long before Wigan. Plus I can remember the Cleckheaton lads singing it's praises after a Saturday at the Torch. Just had a quick search around and I'm not the only one who had this down as the Torch. Who had it first I wonder......?

 

Ian D  :D

I went to The Casino from early days...late 73/early 74 and certainly knew Shawn Robinson...maybe it was more of a local North West play encouraged by plays at Va-Va's.....I used to go to a place in Burscough called the football club...SoulSpinners 4 as DJs then....maybe as early as 72 and pretty sure it was played there

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Are you sure Kev? I seem to remember this being an oldie long before Wigan. Plus I can remember the Cleckheaton lads singing it's praises after a Saturday at the Torch. Just had a quick search around and I'm not the only one who had this down as the Torch. Who had it first I wonder......?

Ian D :D

Positive mate. I'm sure it was discovered around September of 73. Richard had it at VA Vas before he worked at Wigan. I have a feeling Ian L also had it at the Mecca around the same time.

Deffo not Torch though.

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Goldsoul Veteran

Goldsoul

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Kev,are you sure abouv Shawn Robinson not being played at the Torch? I seem to remember it being listed in VaVa adverts,so that pre-dates it for Wigan at least

Steve

Steve- It was in the Va Vas ads. See my response to Ian D. But that was after the Torch had closed.

I met Richard in the late Summer of 73 at Va Vas and heard it then. When I reccomended him to Russ, the Casino hired him in the Autumn of 73. Shawn R was one of his plays. By then, others had it and the track started to pick up pace.

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SHEFFSOUL Long Time

SHEFFSOUL

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Shawn Robinson was played way further back, it was reviewed by Dave Godin in Black Music in 1974, it was played at Wigan not long after by all the dj's, until it got booted in mid 1977.

 

a VA VA fave..

SHEFFSOUL Long Time

SHEFFSOUL

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Mr Manship in his latest auction write up, rambles on about Sam Moultrie "I'll Always Love You" being a Cleethorpes record.

I was talking to an early Wigan Casino member the other day and he said it was played early days in Wigan before 1975!?

 

in NME back in 1973 i think..Ian Levine lists SM as one of his top plays...

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I went to The Casino from early days...late 73/early 74 and certainly knew Shawn Robinson...maybe it was more of a local North West play encouraged by plays at Va-Va's.....I used to go to a place in Burscough called the football club...SoulSpinners 4 as DJs then....maybe as early as 72 and pretty sure it was played there

The legendary Burscough football Club. Great place for a Tuesday night(you could get a pint even at 15!) Don't remember Shawn Robinson, but I was astounded by the sounds played as I had only recently moved to Burscough.

 

Paul

SHEFFSOUL Long Time

SHEFFSOUL

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from memory of my live tapes early '74.. probably Kev Roberts plays ..The Free Takin it away, Ila Vann you made me this way, and maybe Pep playing cool jerk '68 inst and Hollywood a go go..

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in NME back in 1973 i think..Ian Levine lists SM as one of his top plays...

And Ian Levine was a DJ briefly at Wigan Casino when it first started in late 73! So possibly could of played Sam Moultrie then! Edited by Guest
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I was fortunate to be at The Casino on 23 September 1973, some of the the 'biggies' I recall were, Landslide, Wait 'Till I Get To Know Ya, Momas's Gone, Ski-Ing In the Snow, You Just Don't Know, The Larue, I Got To Find Me Somebody, Thumb A Ride, Put Your Arms Around Me  - Those were then days my friend(s)........!!

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Sjclement Long Time

Sjclement

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from memory of my live tapes early '74.. probably Kev Roberts plays ..The Free Takin it away, Ila Vann you made me this way, and maybe Pep playing cool jerk '68 inst and Hollywood a go go..

 

Spot on there with the Cool Jerk instru. there was a dose of Magic Saxophone Jimmy Castor as well

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I was fortunate to be at The Casino on 23 September 1973, some of the the 'biggies' I recall were, Landslide, Wait 'Till I Get To Know Ya, Momas's Gone, Ski-Ing In the Snow, You Just Don't Know, The Larue, I Got To Find Me Somebody, Thumb A Ride, Put Your Arms Around Me  - Those were then days my friend(s)........!!

I was also there that night and danced to all those you mentioned plus hundreds more.... oh the youthful memories :)

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Fred Paris-I Just Can't Satisfy Green Sea

 

I wonder whether some enterprising soul saw the label, and off the back of Pearlean Grey this Must have been played... begs the question, was Pearlean Grey an early Wigan spin also?

 

Mal.C

Found pearlean grey in a store in cannock swapped it for Jo Amsted with max and max played it a Cats same night 

 

Stin

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John Parker

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The legendary Burscough football Club. Great place for a Tuesday night(you could get a pint even at 15!) Don't remember Shawn Robinson, but I was astounded by the sounds played as I had only recently moved to Burscough.

 

Paul

 

It was a great place wasnt it Paul...and I could walk to it!!!

 

 

Remember a coach trip laid on on the weekend of my 17th birthday to The Torch

 

 

A certain Major Lance was  on   !!!

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Stateside Long Time

Stateside

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Seem to remember the instrumental of "Lady Marmalade" by Nanette Workman being played around 1974/75 on Pacha, although I might have heard it at the Mecca. Not sure, someone may remember.


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Seem to remember the instrumental of "Lady Marmalade" by Nanette Workman being played around 1974/75 on Pacha, although I might have heard it at the Mecca. Not sure, someone may remember.

 

Yes def Mecca and Clee.

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Shawn Robinson was played way further back, it was reviewed by Dave Godin in Black Music in 1974, it was played at Wigan not long after by all the dj's, until it got booted in mid 1977.

Late 73 definitely!

 

Thelma Houston- I ain't going nowhere

Baby Washington I've got it bad

Fantastic Johnny C - Don't depend on me

Drifters - You gotta pay your dues

Herb Ward - Honest to Goodness

Teen Turbans - We need to be loved

Montclairs - I need you more than ever

Pointer Sisters - Send him back

Donald Austin - You want it you got it

Just some of the less regular ones that were played in the early years to my recollection.

Thelma Houstons version was played very early on....73, well  before Jnr Walker. Just played it off the album and still sounds great!

I played that and Momma`s Gone at Ramsbottom C.C a while back and hardly anyone knew them.

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Seem to remember the instrumental of "Lady Marmalade" by Nanette Workman being played around 1974/75 on Pacha, although I might have heard it at the Mecca. Not sure, someone may remember.

You heard it at the Mecca most probably. It was me who supplied it to Ian L.

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Goldsoul Veteran

Goldsoul

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You supplied all that Canadian stuff I seem to remember. Courtesy of George C I presume....?

Ian D :D

Surprisingly it wasn't. I met him in later 75 and then started trading with him.

Disco Disc Forest Hills. Bobby Miller. Weirdly enough it's the same source that introduced me to Lloyd Michels.

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Think that's more likely to be 1978 mate as the Judy Street on Grapevine came out in Feb 1978

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Can believe shitty Blanche Carter in at 47 before Tomangoes, Fidels,Bobby Paris, Yvonne Baker. Milton Wright. Even back in the day the afore mentioned would wipe the floor with "Halos are for angels" . Honestly does any one rate Blanche Carter? Not after an argument or row. Just saying.

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Stateside Long Time

Stateside

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One that did get played quite a bit by Richard was Jodi Mathis - Don't you care anymore. It probably first got played at the Mecca, but it was still quite popular at the Casino.

 

Kev

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hullsoul Veteran

hullsoul

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Can believe shitty Blanche Carter in at 47 before Tomangoes, Fidels,Bobby Paris, Yvonne Baker. Milton Wright. Even back in the day the afore mentioned would wipe the floor with "Halos are for angels" . Honestly does any one rate Blanche Carter? Not after an argument or row. Just saying.

Me..........love it.Can pick holes in it left right & centre but it just takes me back to my early days,just like Poppies,Tiffianies,Jeanette Harper etc.

Plus it's the first record I bought at my first All-Dayer (Doncaster Bailey's 76)..........boot :wicked:

Like I've said on here a few times about Peggy March..........white,shite & I love it.

Cheers

Martyn

Martyn

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Steve L Veteran

Steve L

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Me..........love it.Can pick holes in it left right & centre but it just takes me back to my early days,just like Poppies,Tiffianies,Jeanette Harper etc.

Plus it's the first record I bought at my first All-Dayer (Doncaster Bailey's 76)..........boot :wicked:

Like I've said on here a few times about Peggy March..........white,shite & I love it.

Cheers

Martyn

Martyn

 

I'm with you mate :)

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Patto Veteran

Patto

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Just looking through that 100 list and all typical well known casino sounds some great some best forgotten.Know them all very well as im sure most on here do but have to own up to never ever hearing of The Orlons--Once Upon A Time.Was this really big enough to get into a top 100 chart.

Steve L Veteran

Steve L

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Just looking through that 100 list and all typical well known casino sounds some great some best forgotten.Know them all very well as im sure most on here do but have to own up to never ever hearing of The Orlons--Once Upon A Time.Was this really big enough to get into a top 100 chart.

 

I first heard it on a tape in the early 80s ( see my post in the "Er Youth" thread ) can't recall ever hearing it played out though

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Patto

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I first heard it on a tape in the early 80s ( see my post in the "Er Youth" thread ) can't recall ever hearing it played out though

Cheers Steve  just looked at the other thread.Never Heard the Orlons Track played out either yet it makes that Chart even above Morris Chestnut.

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The above chart mentions Judy Street on Grapevine so that would put it at '77 or 'early '78 and not '74.

Was thinking the same Chalky,Johnny Caswell would still have been covered up in 74

John Benson Long Time

John Benson

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Johnny Caswell was known about well before then, it's on a live Wigan recording from 1973

 

I'm fairly sure it was getting plays well before Wigan - I'm pretty sure it was on Va Va playlists as well?

Stateside Long Time

Stateside

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Johnny Caswell You don't love me was played from the offset at Wigan. That was the first place I heard it. Then Paul Anka followed covered up as Johnny Caswell and Epitome of Sound as Moses Smith.

Kev

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