Been out tonight just doing some xmas socialising and have heard 'Suspicion' twice in two separate pubs. You try to explain what it is and how we never knew what it was and people's eyes glaze over...How things have changed, huh?

  On 23/12/2014 at 23:36, son of stan said:

Been out tonight just doing some xmas socialising and have heard 'Suspicion' twice in two separate pubs. You try to explain what it is and how we never knew what it was and people's eyes glaze over...How things have changed, huh?

Yeah. People are very Suspicion of each other theses days. Sorry that's the only one I could think of.not very Original

Steve

Edited December 24, 201410 yr by Winsford Soul

Yeah, yer average bloke down the pub don't give a flying f##k about the back story of a recording, coz all he has to do is Shazam it, then stream it to his phone any time he wants. If he really wants to 'get into Northern' though, old Dodgy Dave in the corner will burn him a DVD containing the entire Northern Soul 'Top 500' in convenient MP3 format for the price of a pint. 

its on these digital juke boxes as are a lot of northern tunes in our local legion i pick out the more obscure ones to play you never know it might turn someone else into a soulie

kev

It's the Wife's bloody ringtone so I hear it at least 10 times a pigging day

PS, If any of you buggers ring her up now just to wind me up I'll not be best pleased....

Edited December 24, 201410 yr by Cunnie

  On 24/12/2014 at 09:38, Cunnie said:

It's the Wife's bloody ringtone so I hear it at least 10 times a pigging day

PS, If any of you buggers ring her up now just to wind me up I'll not be best pleased....

What's her number ?

film cd soundtrack? seems to be lots of posts about soul tunes being played in pubs,shops and restaurants etc lately on fb and they all seem to be tracks from the film

Heard this in a girls clothes shop the other day French connection or one like that, weird.

Heard it in New Look.Strange.

Personally makes no difference to me if the same old same old gets played in a pub, shop etc. To be honest, in the main I'm bored of them so makes no difference if joe public gets it or not. So they're very welcome to them

That's extended the typical FB Norvun groups listening from ten tracks to 30 then  

  On 24/12/2014 at 10:50, spacehopper said:

film cd soundtrack? seems to be lots of posts about soul tunes being played in pubs,shops and restaurants etc lately on fb and they all seem to be tracks from the film

Familiarity breeds contempt. Used to enjoy this now can't wait to get off the floor when I hear it! Didn't actually intend to post this. And maybe what I really meant is the contempt comes from hearing dj's keep playing it when they could play another lesser played track! Just something fresher....

 

Edited December 27, 201410 yr by tiggerwoods

  On 27/12/2014 at 16:26, tiggerwoods said:

Familiarity breeds contempt. Used to enjoy this now can't wait to get off the floor when I hear it!

Contempt for a record that has never been released? Can, t wait to get off the floor......so what new and brilliant record is going to get you on the floor in the first place?

To be honest, I have had enough of the school of thought that says a record that is overplayed is worthy of contempt. The scene needs to take a look at itself. 72, 73 and 74 saw most of the top records unearthed. These must also be contemptible these days.

Why can, t we just listen to the music and if a tune comes on we don't like, go to the bar, or have a fag. Why post on here about it?

This scene is losing it.

  On 24/12/2014 at 10:50, spacehopper said:

film cd soundtrack? seems to be lots of posts about soul tunes being played in pubs,shops and restaurants etc lately on fb and they all seem to be tracks from the film

 

Makes sense. One of the biggest-selling comps of the year......

 

Ian D 

  On 27/12/2014 at 17:28, BrianB said:

Contempt for a record that has never been released? Can, t wait to get off the floor......so what new and brilliant record is going to get you on the floor in the first place?

To be honest, I have had enough of the school of thought that says a record that is overplayed is worthy of contempt. The scene needs to take a look at itself. 72, 73 and 74 saw most of the top records unearthed. These must also be contemptible these days.

Why can, t we just listen to the music and if a tune comes on we don't like, go to the bar, or have a fag. Why post on here about it?

This scene is losing it.

Right on!

  On 27/12/2014 at 17:28, BrianB said:

Contempt for a record that has never been released? Can, t wait to get off the floor......so what new and brilliant record is going to get you on the floor in the first place?

To be honest, I have had enough of the school of thought that says a record that is overplayed is worthy of contempt. The scene needs to take a look at itself. 72, 73 and 74 saw most of the top records unearthed. These must also be contemptible these days.

Why can, t we just listen to the music and if a tune comes on we don't like, go to the bar, or have a fag. Why post on here about it?

This scene is losing it.

I've never understood the notion that a track that's been heard so much becomes a bad track through over exposure. Over exposed maybe, but contemptible? Surely not.

Away from soul do people stop liking 'The long and winding road' or 'Bridge over troubled water' for example, because they've heard them a zillion times? It may be that you prefer to hear something else but come on, in this case a sense of perspective is needed.

  On 27/12/2014 at 17:28, BrianB said:

Contempt for a record that has never been released? Can, t wait to get off the floor......so what new and brilliant record is going to get you on the floor in the first place?

To be honest, I have had enough of the school of thought that says a record that is overplayed is worthy of contempt. The scene needs to take a look at itself. 72, 73 and 74 saw most of the top records unearthed. These must also be contemptible these days.

Why can, t we just listen to the music and if a tune comes on we don't like, go to the bar, or have a fag. Why post on here about it?

This scene is losing it.

well said that man

soul snobbery at its worst , suppose he would have preferred to hear tribute or stanky ffs , the genies been out of the bottle for some time now and hey ho, the great unwashed like our  music , personally I love to hear this or anything northern being played out, it  is better than the vast majority of contemporary moronic music ,

  On 24/12/2014 at 07:48, Soul16 said:

Yeah, yer average bloke down the pub don't give a flying f##k about the back story of a recording, coz all he has to do is Shazam it, then stream it to his phone any time he wants. If he really wants to 'get into Northern' though, old Dodgy Dave in the corner will burn him a DVD containing the entire Northern Soul 'Top 500' in convenient MP3 format for the price of a pint. 

I'm afraid to say most Soulies don't either & most tunes don't have an enchanting back story.  

Spot.  

  On 27/12/2014 at 18:34, barney said:

well said that man

soul snobbery at its worst , suppose he would have preferred to hear tribute or stanky ffs , the genies been out of the bottle for some time now and hey ho, the great unwashed like our  music , personally I love to hear this or anything northern being played out, it  is better than the vast majority of contemporary moronic music ,

Brian I'm with you on Stanky but Bob Sinclair & also Kirk Franklin now that's not bad at all, tolerance in all things & Merry Xmas plus all the best for 2015.    

Spot.  

What separates the great from the good songs is the ability to love it just as much the millionth time heard as the first. 

 

In any case the version posted on You-tube and in most posts on fora ids the weaker of the 2 I've heard, and the version I only heard years later, and the version that we did not have sitting in our office for 7 years.  So I could never tire of hearing it.

Its a great record, one of Motown's greatest and will always be a great record.  One I will never tire of.

  On 27/12/2014 at 17:28, BrianB said:

Contempt for a record that has never been released? Can, t wait to get off the floor......so what new and brilliant record is going to get you on the floor in the first place?

To be honest, I have had enough of the school of thought that says a record that is overplayed is worthy of contempt. The scene needs to take a look at itself. 72, 73 and 74 saw most of the top records unearthed. These must also be contemptible these days.

Why can, t we just listen to the music and if a tune comes on we don't like, go to the bar, or have a fag. Why post on here about it?

This scene is losing it.

ive been losing it today a bit.... Not normally one to gripe about 45's . I'll shut up I think

 

Could have been worse...might have been Frank Wilson singing how much he loves you...or even Marvin telling you about his love starved heart... And you thought a nice quiet pub would be a great escape from a noisy Boxing Day.

I think someone used the phrase 'familiarity breeds contempt' to describe the phenomenon of overkill, rather than to mean literally that familiarity gave him contempt for the record.

you could almost divide people according to two musical sensibilities - one type who hear songs incidentally in meaningful times of their life and then listen to these same songs over and over, in a very subjective way, and dont wish to hear anything outside of that, and another type who love music for its own sake and therefore tend to get the greater pleasure from hearing new things.

for the second type, the real music lover, hearing a track 10,000 times, doesn't reinforce it in the psyche as a comforting, familiar warm blanket, but instead makes them sick of it.

however good a song is, if you hear it all the time, on this advert, in this shop and in this pub, you become at best disintrested in it, unless you are a member of the karaoke singalong brigade, in which case it has the opposite effect.

I used to think that the more exposure for the music, the better, but after years of seeing great music get chewed up and spat out by passing fads, and this apparently only to the benefit of superficially interested or qualified djs, advertising execs and bootleggers who never present anything in a light condusive to any meaningful advancement of the artform..

the hunting for forgotten old music, as a cultural phenomenon, is a reaction to mainstream culture, which tends to force-feed you a narrow but controlled and highly profitable selection of products.

Novelty is a huge part of musical enjoyment for real music lovers, not just of individual tracks but of whole styles. With the speed people can access information nowadays, there's a genuine likelihood that these mainstream listeners will have heard enough and got bored of the whole thing before ever even dancing in a real club to a real dj.

so nothing lost then, when pop culture moves on and leaves us to it? Well, yes, maybe. If those who potentially had a yearning for something new, something deeper, had had to go to a real club to find that thing, meet some real people and hear the selections of a real passionate dj, then it could be that the whole package would bond them to it for the long time, as it did a lot of us.

even the most beautiful thing can be made better or worse - maximised or trivialised - via context.

Anyways, just a thought

well mik

is your definition of the real music lover your own ,or as it been positively confirmed as fact ,

because I like to hear the old tunes over and over , to me there is no such thing as bad music its just that some tracks are better than others,

Perspective is the key as someone mentioned earlier. Even the shittest & most played out NS track stands head & shoulders above the other 98% of the world's music (IMO of course )

All I'll say is; Gary Lewis & Playboys and Cherry People.      If we're talking about all music being various levels of good.

Spot.  

  On 28/12/2014 at 09:19, barney said:

well mikis your definition of the real music lover your own ,or as it been positively confirmed as fact ,because I like to hear the old tunes over and over , to me there is no such thing as bad music its just that some tracks are better than others,

I wasn't trying to create a dichotomy where you must either relentlessly move on or stick with the same pool of classics - like anything in life, either extreme is absurd and the best approach is a balance of both.

I do believe though that those who willfully decline to search for new music, are probably more interested in their own emotions than in music.

anyway, that wasn't my point. Think about a track you love that is now very popular. I'm thinking of charles sheffield, but dont get hung up on my choice, its not relevent. Imagine going back to those first few nights out when you danced to it and heard it all at the same time. If you were lucky - your first point of contact for such a great record, for any record, should be a situation that complements and enhances the record.

so, for me in this case, it was tape in mates car building up the mystique, then smokey packed club in Manchester - Bang! Perfect.

that's what folk culture does that faceless mainstream culture doesn't - protects the context.

so why I'm not a popularist, why I hate the bootlegs, the youtube, the adverts, the background music bootleg pub djs is because in all those situations the music is relegated to fashion accessory, marketing tool, background music...

the first point of contact for the Suspicions should be either the film, which exactly did it justice, or a club...maybe a cd passed around. This bland mulch of exploitative non-culture in between sucks the novelty and excitement out of things, makes things familiar but lifeless. its so thick now that people cant wade through it to get to the good stuff any more.

Might have been watching too many historical epics over christmas there :-).

tis only music not life and death so lets put it into that context first and formost ,

northern is the soundtrack of my life ,

northern was my first love and have kept faith with it for my last 40 odd years and

where I go my music goes with me , but if I happen to hear inadvertently a northern record

being played out , then I don't wince or moan , I say to myself that's good that's my music and its special to me .

I'd sooner go into a pub or a shop and hear the soundtrack to the film than some of the dirge they often inflict upon us.  

 

I can't remember the last time I heard Suspicion in a venue?

OMG! Early start today...another boozer here in N.London what should come on but Walter Jackson, 'It's an uphill climb to the bottom'. Made my day!!

My wife heard it last Saturday in the clothes shop Matalan.

She enjoyed hearing it. Better than the pop rubbish that was playing before and after it.

Edited December 29, 201410 yr by Guest

pretty soon we might get The best of felix catfood ads cd !!!!!!!

When I'm in the eye of the storm in the middle of a night this record can take me to places others can't, Its just pure magic ! Personaly I'll never grow tired of hearing it. One of thee very best

Atb

Clint

Heard Barbara Lynn I'm a good woman in Next at Fenchurch Street today. Made my day

  On 27/12/2014 at 15:35, phillybuster said:

Heard it in New Look.Strange.

I requested it with the checkout girl, Olga in Gravesend Aldi but she said they don't play any music or have heating in their stores.

It was played in some Starbucks coffees here in the US. For a few weeks last summer they were playing a Northern mix - Suspicion, I Travel Alone, Soul Self Satisfaction, Too Darn Soulful, Lonely For You, etc. Amazing to hear them, they are still unknowns to pretty much everyone here.

Edited January 2, 201510 yr by George G