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[Goldsoul]

This year's Top 20 movers n shakers is up at Mixcloud.

Just wondering which jobbing jocks have been largely responsible for the current revival tracks or is it largely a collective input?

 

I appreciate most on here are at the sharp end of the scene, so just looking for the grass roots of who's got 'em going again.

For instance, Andy Dyson has championed Robert Thomas, Nige Brown with Herb Ward but what of the others?

Clearly the No.1 has had such an influence the value stands around 5k.

 

If it's you or a spinner you know of......holler!

I appreciate many of the popular tracks have been around forever, but who's hammering 'em now?

 

A totally subjective set of positions based on extensive feedback from popular venues and the inevitable Facebook  etc. And of course the recent film.

 

If your not a fan of the popularity.......look away now......

 

The current 20 with the most feedback are......

20. TOMMY NAVARRO

19. RITA and THE TIARAS

18. CHECKERBOARD SQUARES

17. HERB WARD-Strange Change

16. LUTHER INGRAM

15. BOB SINCLAIR

14. TONY GALLA

13. JIMMY RUFFIN-Gonna Give

12. HAMILTON MOVEMENT

11. PARISIANS

10. ROBERT THOMAS

9. JEFF PERRY

8. SALVADORS

7. JONATHAN CAPREE

6. SOULUTIONS-Listen

5. THE ORIGINALS- Suspicion

4. MARVIN GAYE-Love Starved Heart

3. TOBI LEGEND

2. RICHIE ADAMS

1. THE TOMANGOES

 

https://www.mixcloud.com/goldsoul/northern-soul-top-20-for-2014without-narration/

Edited December 16, 2014 by The Golden 101

[Wiganer1]

billy davis - stanky - (must have been 21)  total floor filler this year

[Md Records]

For a large percentage of those tunes, Kev - It is by collective input, there are very few innovators on the "popular" circuit, and to be fair it's probably what that segment of the market wants - "Entertainment over Education". A couple of years ago one of the "big" D.J.'s told me that they were "hammering"  a very well known tune of the "Tony Galla" ilk that had never really gone away, which does make me smile, as I'm reminded of the Monty Python sketch

 

Game Show Host (John Cleese): Good evening and welcome to Stake Your Claim. First this evening we have Mr. Norman Voles of Gravesend, who claims he wrote all Shakespeare's works. Mr. Voles, I understand you claim that you wrote all those plays normally attributed to Shakespeare?

Voles (Michael Palin): That is correct. I wrote all his plays and my wife and I wrote his sonnets.

 

Host: Mr. Voles, these plays are known to have been performed in the early 17th century. How old are you, Mr. Voles?

 

Voles: 43.

 

 

 

Host: Well, how is it possible for you to have written plays performed over 300 years before you were born?

 

Voles: Ah well. This is where my claim falls to the ground.

 

Host: Ah!

 

Voles: There's no possible way of answering that argument, I'm afraid. I was only hoping you would not make that particular point, but I can see you're more than a match for me!

 

Host: Mr. Voles, thank you very much for coming along.

 

Voles: My pleasure.

 

 

[Andybellwood]

Nice to see Jimmy Ruffin and Soulutions (which I've been hammering since release on my Hospedia radio shows) in there , surprised that Tribute still is - tho expect it will get a Xmas party revival then (hopefully) fade away...lol

Edited December 16, 2014 by andybellwood

[Goldsoul]

billy davis - stanky - (must have been 21)  total floor filler this year

Hey Mark- Agreed. Wasn't mentioned much when I started to collate, but then again it can easily easily turn into a 50!

[Mace]

Jonathan Capree was first championed by Mik Parry.....guess you're likely to hear it in the Pow Wow room at Lifeline Allnighter this Saturday!

[TOAD]

No need to hammer records.... Plenty of choice out there. Stanky poor record

[Jkpnefc]

Stanky is ok....now Bob Sinclair words fail me!!!!

No need to hammer records.... Plenty of choice out there. Stanky poor record

[Goldsoul]

No need to hammer records.... Plenty of choice out there. Stanky poor record

Certainly a strange one TOAD. It goes right back to the Selecta Disc 3 for a quid bin in 1972! Guess it feels right today.

[Goldsoul]

Stanky is ok....now Bob Sinclair words fail me!!!!

It's the weirdest track ever to be popular on the scene isn't it? But I said that about Babe Ruth's Elusive nearly 4 decades ago!

[Jkpnefc]

weirdest and possibly worst imho

[Goldsoul]

weirdest and possibly worst imho

How did it get started? Andy Jackson thrashed it on the Modern scene, but how did it suddenly cross over to Northern...anyone know?

[TOAD]

Stanky is ok....now Bob Sinclair words fail me!!!!

very poor should be smashed up some people have no taste ;)

[Paddy Ferry]

very poor should be smashed up some people have no taste ;)

I'm thinking that maybe you're not too keen on that one.

[TOAD]

I'm thinking that maybe you're not too keen on that one.

just bored of flavour of the month type of records....it used to be about travelling to hear new tunes and each DJ having his own unique style and play list....or did I dream that

[Mark R]

It's the weirdest track ever to be popular on the scene isn't it? But I said that about Babe Ruth's Elusive nearly 4 decades ago!

 

If it keeps it out of the modern rooms then that's great! 

 

Good records get left out at the expense of rubbish like this..............if you want to hear a good Bob Sinclair tune, try "Darlin'" feat. D-Train..........

 

Though I realise here we are talking Northern rooms, where the latter wouldn't fit...........

 

 

Cheers,

Mark R

Edited December 16, 2014 by Mark R

[Wiganer1]

im not a big fan of bob Sinclair but the dancefloor will tell you otherwise ..its always PACKED which ever venue you hear it played

[Quinvy]

The Stanky 45 was a £10 record until one night at one of my Burnley Allnighters a few years ago. Fred Krol dug it out and played it.

 

You wouldn't believe how many people ran up to the decks to see what it was.

 

Next day you couldn't find a copy on any of the dealers sites. The price shot up over night.

 

Fred is very embarrassed to be the man responsible for it's rise to stardom. However, I find it very poor form that the soul snobs on here are slamming it as such a bad record. At least it's a dance record, and I would far rather hear Stanky than most of the dirge that gets the plaudits from folk on this forum.

[Wiganer1]

little scotty was playing this well before Burnley Phil

[Mark R]

im not a big fan of bob Sinclair but the dancefloor will tell you otherwise ..its always PACKED which ever venue you hear it played

 

I know Mark, but by definition, people on niche music scenes like ours should never be afraid to go against mass opinion!! 

 

 

Cheers,

Mark R

[Mike Lofthouse]

However, I find it very poor form that the soul snobs on here are slamming it as such a bad record. At least it's a dance record, and I would far rather hear Stanky than most of the dirge that gets the plaudits from folk on this forum.

Yes it one thing a record being overplayed (and you might not like it) but it doesn't make it a bad record.....just played it on Youtube and noticed it was posted on there over 5 years ago.....

[TOAD]

My nomination for the worst record played recently is.....back slop..

[Pete S]

So in 2014, the top three records are sounds which were all played over 40 years ago.  That's progress for you.

[Winnie :-)]

How did it get started? Andy Jackson thrashed it on the Modern scene, but how did it suddenly cross over to Northern...anyone know?

Isn't it similar to when Pharrel Williams was played, done so for a giggle, got a good response, and if other DJs took notice, it would probably also be being played regularly. The majority of the dancers (myself included) have never necessarily paid much attention to the actual quality of the record, more interested in it's dance-ability as a rule   

[Len]

The majority of the dancers (myself included) have never necessarily paid much attention to the actual quality of the record, more interested in it's dance-ability as a rule   

 

They both come hand in hand as a general rule Win - I doubt you would dance to a danceable record if you didn't like it........Ok, maybe in 'Nighter World' we would

 

Len

Edited December 16, 2014 by LEN

[Pete S]

Isn't it similar to when Pharrel Williams was played, done so for a giggle, got a good response, and if other DJs took notice, it would probably also be being played regularly. The majority of the dancers (myself included) have never necessarily paid much attention to the actual quality of the record, more interested in it's dance-ability as a rule   

 

I think that Pharrell Williams record does have one or two decent qualities though, I could live with that for a while I think.  Plus I like seeing my kids dance to it.

[Winnie :-)]

They both come hand in hand as a general rule Win - I doubt you would dance to a danceable record if you didn't like it........Ok, maybe in 'Nighter World' we would

 

Len

Well taking Bob Sinclair as the example, it's never going to go down in the annals of Northern as a great record, but it's hard to deny that it doesn't have an energy that's contagious, so if you're up and dancing already, it just seems natural to carry on. From a dancing perspective, I find nothing wrong with the record, but if you're sitting at the edge of the dance floor analysing what's being played, I doubt very much it would get a good press. Sometimes your mood can dictate your reasoning.

[Mark R]

Isn't it similar to when Pharrel Williams was played, done so for a giggle, got a good response, and if other DJs took notice, it would probably also be being played regularly. The majority of the dancers (myself included) have never necessarily paid much attention to the actual quality of the record, more interested in it's dance-ability as a rule   

 

But danceability and quality aren't mutually exclusive..............

 

 

Cheers,

Mark R

[Daved]

How did it get started? Andy Jackson thrashed it on the Modern scene, but how did it suddenly cross over to Northern...anyone know?

 

It was even sneered at on the modern scene. Bloody awful record

[Guest Matt Male]

What a depressing list.

 

No wonder I've only been out twice this year.

[Goldsoul]

What a depressing list.

 

No wonder I've only been out twice this year.

If we think back though, haven't we always had some depressives in each era?

Obviously newcomers are only just buying into certain songs.

[KevH]

Which Bob Sinclair record is it.? Think i've lost touch.........

[Quinvy]

little scotty was playing this well before Burnley Phil

Maybe mate. But nobody took any notice until Fred played it. The price went mental overnight.

 

Same thing with Rudy Love on Canyon. Everyone said "oh, Cliff Steel has been playing it for years" and I don't doubt it. But as soon as Karl H got behind it, everybody had to have it.

 

I could write a list a mile long of records that "have been known about" for donkeys years. But not everyone on the scene knows them. You need a venue that is on every month to get records popular. Four times a year? Give me a break, who's going to remember what was played at the last one.

[KevH]

Maybe mate. But nobody took any notice until Fred played it. The price went mental overnight.

 

Same thing with Rudy Love on Canyon. Everyone said "oh, Cliff Steel has been playing it for years" and I don't doubt it. But as soon as Karl H got behind it, everybody had to have it.

 

I could write a list a mile long of records that "have been known about" for donkeys years. But not everyone on the scene knows them. You need a venue that is on every month to get records popular. Four times a year? Give me a break, who's going to remember what was played at the last one.

 

Me,Phil.

[Guest Matt Male]

If we think back though, haven't we always had some depressives in each era?

Obviously newcomers are only just buying into certain songs.

 

It's a good point Kev. I obviously don't mean depressing as in the quality of the records, but the fact that they have mostly been commonly played for decades in most cases. Where are the Joey Irvings, Willie Dales, JT Parkers and other astonishing records played out over the last few years?

 

Where on earth are the 'newcomers' going?

[Andybellwood]

If we think back though, haven't we always had some depressives in each era?Obviously newcomers are only just buying into certain songs.

Newcomers, invariably young , discovering for the first time what long timers often consider as overplayed classic oldies is surely only good for the longevity of the scene and healthy numbers at venues ... Edited December 16, 2014 by andybellwood

[Guest Matt Male]

Newcomers, invariably young , discovering for the first time what long timers often consider as overplayed classic oldies is surely only good for the longevity of scene ...

 

Not if they never move on to other stuff. It's groundhog day. The scene on the whole is living in a six month period up until the closure of Wigan and never changing as far as I can see. Like a little bubble in time.

Edited December 16, 2014 by Matt Male

[jocko]

Newcomers, invariably young , discovering for the first time what long timers often consider as overplayed classic oldies is surely only good for the longevity of scene ...

 

And in that statement everything depressing about "the scene" is displayed. 

Bast*rd I had been dry for three hours, off for some gin antibiotics.  

[jocko]

The Stanky 45 was a £10 record until one night at one of my Burnley Allnighters a few years ago. Fred Krol dug it out and played it.

 

You wouldn't believe how many people ran up to the decks to see what it was.

 

Next day you couldn't find a copy on any of the dealers sites. The price shot up over night.

 

Fred is very embarrassed to be the man responsible for it's rise to stardom. However, I find it very poor form that the soul snobs on here are slamming it as such a bad record. At least it's a dance record, and I would far rather hear Stanky than most of the dirge that gets the plaudits from folk on this forum.

 

Can you please stop coming on here and making me look all positive and cheery, its bad for my street cred

[Wiganer1]

the scene isnt depressing at all.. well I don't find

 

I hear great records still every week I go out ,,oldies and new stuff

 

theres plenty of choice out there whatever youre into

[Quinvy]

Can you please stop coming on here and making me look all positive and cheery, its bad for my street cred

You're obviously not trying hard enough. I expect to be selected in the next England [moaning] squad.

[Guest Matt Male]

the scene isnt depressing at all.. well I don't find

 

I hear great records still every week I go out ,,oldies and new stuff

 

theres plenty of choice out there whatever youre into

 

I'm just turning into a miserable old bugger mate.

[Wiganer1]

ull find the buzz again matt,,,we all go through those stages

 

im really into a Motown buzz at the moment finding some great stuff playing out

 

bobby taylor - its growing and monitors - since I lost you baby and of course the monster isleys whole lotta woman amongst loads of others

 

theres years left of stuff to play out yet

Edited December 16, 2014 by wiganer1

[Gogger]

You're obviously not trying hard enough. I expect to be selected in the next England [moaning] squad.

player manager 

[Andybellwood]

Not if they never move on to other stuff. It's groundhog day. The scene on the whole is living in a six month period up until the closure of Wigan and never changing as far as I can see. Like a little bubble in time.

Those with open ears will , as their tastes and appreciation for all things soul evolve 

[Back Street Blue]

What creates the demand?

Influential DJ's playing /resurrecting records which then get picked up by other DJ's....

Or is demand coming from the punters who are fed a playlist of "you may also like" sounds when they look for "Frank Wilson" or "Wigan Casino" on youtube?

[Chris L]

This year's Top 20 movers n shakers is up at Mixcloud. Just wondering which jobbing jocks have been largely responsible for the current revival tracks or is it largely a collective input? I appreciate most on here are at the sharp end of the scene, so just looking for the grass roots of who's got 'em going again. For instance, Andy Dyson has championed Robert Thomas, Nige Brown with Herb Ward but what of the others? Clearly the No.1 has had such an influence the value stands around 5k. If it's you or a spinner you know of......holler! I appreciate many of the popular tracks have been around forever, but who's hammering 'em now? A totally subjective set of positions based on extensive feedback from popular venues and the inevitable Facebook  etc. And of course the recent film. If your not a fan of the popularity.......look away now......

 

The current 20 with the most feedback are......

20. TOMMY NAVARRO

19. RITA and THE TIARAS

18. CHECKERBOARD SQUARES

17. HERB WARD-Strange Change

16. LUTHER INGRAM

15. BOB SINCLAIR

14. TONY GALLA

13. JIMMY RUFFIN-Gonna Give

12. HAMILTON MOVEMENT

11. PARISIANS

10. ROBERT THOMAS

9. JEFF PERRY

8. SALVADORS

7. JONATHAN CAPREE

6. SOULUTIONS-Listen

5. THE ORIGINALS- Suspicion

4. MARVIN GAYE-Love Starved Heart

3. TOBI LEGEND

2. RICHIE ADAMS

1. THE TOMANGOES

 

 

Nice to see a £20.00 and a £5.000 record together, perhaps proof that the average (or above average) soul fan doesn't put too much store in a record's value.

[Wiggyflat]

Records that are probably old hat to the upfront crowd but perfect for the big rooms and that i have heard are The Limitations-Lonely and Troubled,Curtis Liggins-What It Is and Tommy Rodgers Pass The Word.They only need bootlegging on a big scale for the push.That is the sad fact.Been playing the alt version of Tony Gallas's- In Love.

[Len]

Well taking Bob Sinclair as the example, it's never going to go down in the annals of Northern as a great record, but it's hard to deny that it doesn't have an energy that's contagious, so if you're up and dancing already, it just seems natural to carry on. From a dancing perspective, I find nothing wrong with the record, but if you're sitting at the edge of the dance floor analysing what's being played, I doubt very much it would get a good press. Sometimes your mood can dictate your reasoning.

 

You can say that again - I danced to 'Just Like The Weather' at Life-line once....'twas a good night!  

 

Len  

Edited December 16, 2014 by LEN

[TOAD]

You can say that again - I danced to 'Just Like The Weather' at Life-line once....'twas a good night! a different mix if I remember rightly...thanks butch !!!!!

Len