Benji Posted August 29, 2018 Posted August 29, 2018 5 hours ago, Winsford Soul said: Anyone remember these monsters . Some of them where definitely big at Wigan Steve Is there really a need for that? This forum is about music.
Benji Posted August 29, 2018 Posted August 29, 2018 7 hours ago, colouredman said: In no particular chronological order, and a mixture of excellent, and the good bad and ugly from Wigan; all were big though, and some beyond huge! Some are just plain funny. Little Joe Romans (Still super rare) Night Owl (Nothing was bigger than this mid 70’s at the Casino!) Danny Monday (Likewise this) Wakefield Sun Trypt on love General Assembly Sensitive mind Detroit Landapples Ollie Jackson Day my heart stood still. The Jewells Construction Lamont Cranston Band Colouredman Gary Lewis My hearts symphony (I kid you not!) Baja Marimba band Along comes Mary Paul Peek Im movin uptown EJ Chandler Jackie Forrest Show me how to love Lindy Stevens Pennygold Decca Johnny Vanelli Lou Roberts (All) Deadbeats No second chance (Probably more speculation about this as a cover up than any other RS record ever.... rumoured to be the rock group ‘Whitesnake’ at some point!) Seeds Pushin too hard (horrible horrible record but huge for Russ) Trade Martin She put the hurt Cherry People And suddenly The Poppies Pain in my heart This thread is about forgotten Wigan monsters sounds isn't it? I doubt any of the records you listed are forgotten.
Popular Post Davenpete Posted August 29, 2018 Popular Post Posted August 29, 2018 (edited) 6 hours ago, Benji said: Is there really a need for that? This forum is about music. Since 90+% of those who went to nighters (when these were still around) will have munched their way through a few hundred of these over the years is there really any need for being a stuffed shirt about them being posted in what seems to be a rather silly thread anyway? I for one feel very nostalgic for Riker, Evan's and Smith Klein's (sadly I missed R&Bs, G&Cs, Daps and Filon) splendid products and wish they were still around. Dx Edited August 30, 2018 by DaveNPete 7
KevH Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 Frankie Valli - The night. Silhouettes - Not me baby. Jeanette Williams - something good's got a hold on me.
Popular Post Winsford Soul Posted August 30, 2018 Popular Post Posted August 30, 2018 13 hours ago, Benji said: Is there really a need for that? This forum is about music. Lighten up. It's as much a part of the scene as anything. Drugs have been and always will be part of the northern / rare nighter scene long before I started going and will be long after I stop Steve 5
Patto Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 Massive thread great reading.I dont know if this one has featured yet and not played much these days.
Patto Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 Also this one that i have recently purchased.An all time fave that i believe was a late Casino tune and certainly early Stafford 1
Davenpete Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 (edited) Before my time, but one of my all-time favourites (Moses Dillard - maybe only actually heard it a couple of times at nighters myself) and dodgy pop shite (that I also have a soft spot for) - both actually pretty much forgotten though which is what the thread is SUPPOSED to be about. Was going to add Verdelle Smith too, but I thought that was just too offensive : ) Dx Edited August 30, 2018 by DaveNPete 1
Davenpete Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 (edited) Another long forgotten one... Edited August 30, 2018 by DaveNPete
Colouredman Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 14 hours ago, Benji said: This thread is about forgotten Wigan monsters sounds isn't it? I doubt any of the records you listed are forgotten. 1
Davenpete Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 (edited) And a real biggy I've not heard at a nighter for at least 30 years... Edited August 30, 2018 by DaveNPete 2
Colouredman Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 Yeah mate, I know; coming from a man who’s managed to go more off the topic of ‘forgotten monsters’ than anyone here, thats funny For me the ‘forgotten’ issue is largely about forgotten by the dancers and forgotten by the collectors. Some Wigan monsters are 4 figure records and still talked about and lusted and danced to (e.g Salvadors, Eddie Parker, Frank Wilson etc etc). But most of those I mentioned are not talked about or particularly danced to relative to their former huge status. When was the last time you heard Pennygold played, or Cherry People? Youd kill a floor with some of those records now. Try get a full floor to Nightowl.... impossible; collectors arent interested either but mid 70’s at Wigan that record was king; hence the ‘forgotten’ tag for me. Dont worry about it though Steve; drop another ‘green n clear’ n let it all float over your buzzing head!. Only jokin mate; its all good 1
Colouredman Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 9 minutes ago, DaveNPete said: And a real biggy I've not heard at a nighter for at least 30 years...
Winsford Soul Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 6 minutes ago, colouredman said: Great record. Very much in the vein of the Blossoms , When the tears start. Love the girlie sounds Steve
Winsford Soul Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 8 minutes ago, Zed1 said: Covered up as Randolph Walker if memory serves me right Gaz. Great memories of Station road mate Ste 1
Patto Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 1 minute ago, Winsford Soul said: Great record. Very much in the vein of the Blossoms , When the tears start. Love the girlie sounds Steve I Love the girlie sounds too Steve.I think that in the last couple of years there has been an upserge in popularity for some of the lesser played casino sounds and often its these sounds that seem to get the floor going.Frank Lyndon,Joey Dee,thelma Houston,Ron Holden all do well for me these days. Also this one Steve one of the best Girlies ever 1
Winsford Soul Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 (edited) Post deleted as i couldn't get link to work Ste Edited August 30, 2018 by Winsford Soul
Winsford Soul Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Patto said: I Love the girlie sounds too Steve.I think that in the last couple of years there has been an upserge in popularity for some of the lesser played casino sounds and often its these sounds that seem to get the floor going.Frank Lyndon,Joey Dee,thelma Houston,Ron Holden all do well for me these days. Also this one Steve one of the best Girlies ever Love it . I always got a good reaction for Frank Lydon, Joey Dee ( hard record ) myself . Great records Edited August 30, 2018 by Winsford Soul 2
Colouredman Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 Johnny Bragg!! If ever there was a totally forgotten Wigan biggie this one is. Back in the day though Selectadisc couldnt get these knocked out fast enuf; a true monster! 2
Winsford Soul Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 Cant remember when the last time this was played out anywhere I was . Proper dancer. Wigan for me mid 70,s but could have been played earlier Ste 3
Winsford Soul Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, colouredman said: Johnny Bragg!! If ever there was a totally forgotten Wigan biggie this one is. Back in the day though Selectadisc couldnt get these knocked out fast enuf; a true monster! Wigan Anthem. Torch record originally I think, not sure though as the Torch was before my time Edited August 30, 2018 by Winsford Soul
Davenpete Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 Two 'rusty' old relics I wish I still owned. Dx 2
Winsford Soul Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 19 minutes ago, DaveNPete said: Two 'rusty' old relics I wish I still owned. Dx Not long got rid of a Carl Spencer demo. Ste 1
Winsford Soul Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 Now this is class. This is forgotten Ste 1
Winsford Soul Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 Everyone plays the other side now. You just don't know. But this is the original side that got played at the Casino 1
NEILO Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 36 minutes ago, Winsford Soul said: Cant remember when the last time this was played out anywhere I was . Proper dancer. Wigan for me mid 70,s but could have been played earlier Ste Played out in Crewe once or twice in last couple of years. Not heard it anywhere else. Top dancer!
Guest Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 50 minutes ago, Winsford Soul said: Cant remember when the last time this was played out anywhere I was . Proper dancer. Wigan for me mid 70,s but could have been played earlier Ste Can't remember it being played any earlier than the beginning of 74. Monster tune back then, covered up as Detroit Land Apples, "Help me" I think? Used to completely fill the floor in the main room, and remained a biggie for the rest of the year.
Davenpete Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 (edited) One really dodgy one I've still got a copy of... Edited August 30, 2018 by DaveNPete
Patto Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 23 minutes ago, NEILO said: Played out in Crewe once or twice in last couple of years. Not heard it anywhere else. Top dancer! Gets played out regularly by our own Dave Brenton off the original LP at sheffields Gas Club 2
Winsford Soul Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 18 minutes ago, Joey said: Can't remember it being played any earlier than the beginning of 74. Monster tune back then, covered up as Detroit Land Apples, "Help me" I think? Used to completely fill the floor in the main room, and remained a biggie for the rest of the year. Definitely still a monster when I started going mid 75.
Patto Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 1 hour ago, Winsford Soul said: Not forgotten but class Brilliant Steve.Ive spent a lot of money over the years on original vinyl Wigan oldies but this one is unfortunately out of my price range now.Would love to own one. Great thread this running out of likes Big Respect to you Wigan guys. 1
Davenpete Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 Another nasty - this one should definitely never be revived... 1
Winsford Soul Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 Just now, Patto said: Brilliant Steve.Ive spent a lot of money over the years on original vinyl Wigan oldies but this one is unfortunately out of my price range now.Would love to own one. Great thread this running out of likes Big Respect to you Wigan guys. Will dig out some tunes later on tonight. The stuff I used to collect and play out and about myself
Rich B Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 (edited) 44 minutes ago, Joey said: Can't remember it being played any earlier than the beginning of 74. Monster tune back then, covered up as Detroit Land Apples, "Help me" I think? Used to completely fill the floor in the main room, and remained a biggie for the rest of the year. Nearly Joey, covered as the "Detroit Shakers" early 74? Mr Soussan must have been very impressed with that cover up name, here is the Rainbows, also bootlegged around the same time as... Edited August 30, 2018 by Rich B 1
El Corol Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 11 minutes ago, Rich B said: Nearly Joey, covered as the "Detroit Shakers" early 74? Mr Soussan must have been very impressed with that cover up name, here is the Rainbows, also bootlegged around the same time as... Yes and mug punters like me who bought it this thinking it was The Outsiders boot, only to be dissapointed the next day at home to find out it was this (and how many times did that happen to us? - Could be a good thread if not already done)
Guest Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Rich B said: Nearly Joey, covered as the "Detroit Shakers" early 74? Mr Soussan must have been very impressed with that cover up name, here is the Rainbows, also bootlegged around the same time as... You are Sir, absolutely correct of course. Totally different tune to the Detroit Land Apples. In my defence, it was a VERY long time ago, and my mind at the time was usually somewhat fogged. So many booted in 73 & 74. Even at only a quid a pop, no-one I knew could afford to buy all they wanted. Must have been ten a week being churned out by those nice Nottinhgham people. Oh, and someone previously mentioned the instrumental to "Lets spend the night together". I remember it being sold in Raplhs Manchester, late 73. But did anyone actually on here it ever get played anywhere? It was complete dross, even by the standards of the time. Edited August 30, 2018 by Guest
Rich B Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Joey said: You are Sir, absolutely correct of course. Totally different tune to the Detroit Land Apples. In my defence, it was a VERY long time ago, and my mind at the time was usually somewhat fogged. So many booted in 73 & 74. Even at only a quid a pop, no-one I knew could afford to buy all they wanted. Must have been ten a week being churned out by those nice Nottinhgham people. Oh, and someone previously mentioned the instrumental to "Lets spend the night together". I remember it being sold in Raplhs Manchester, late 73. But did anyone actually on here it ever get played anywhere? It was complete dross, even by the standards of the time. I know what you mean Joey, 3 or 4 titles a week back then - I have never heard 'Let's spend the night' - L.A. Power and Light wasn't it? - just Soussan being a bit cheeky I reckon! Here though is the Detroit Land Apple's - now this is a forgotten/under rated tune.. Edited August 30, 2018 by Rich B
Bo Diddley Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 I've just done a search of the thread and can't see this mentioned, although someone may have just posted a youtube link and a few words. So, just in case it's been missed, here you go.... (And if it has been mentioned, it's got to be worth a second one!! Tim Tam - Wait a minute 1
Hornet Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 19 minutes ago, bo diddley said: I've just done a search of the thread and can't see this mentioned, although someone may have just posted a youtube link and a few words. So, just in case it's been missed, here you go.... (And if it has been mentioned, it's got to be worth a second one!! Tim Tam - Wait a minute
Guest Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 26 minutes ago, Rich B said: I know what you mean Joey, 3 or 4 titles a week back then - I have never heard 'Let's spend the night' - L.A. Power and Light wasn't it? - just Soussan being a bit cheeky I reckon! Here though is the Detroit Land Apple's - now this is a forgotten/under rated tune.. Quality instrumentals were ten a penny back then, eh? Really good tune. And yeah, LA Power & Light were the perpetrators of that abomination. I first heard it in Ralph's, possibly late 73. Got the young girl who worked there to spin it for me, and it was a REAL WTF moment for me. Total dross. Can't recall the label, but pretty sure it was dark/navy blue in colour? Heres another forgotten instrumental from early to mid 74. If you close your eyes you can still hear and feel the handclaps. Lol.
Guest Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 37 minutes ago, bo diddley said: I've just done a search of the thread and can't see this mentioned, although someone may have just posted a youtube link and a few words. So, just in case it's been missed, here you go.... (And if it has been mentioned, it's got to be worth a second one!! Tim Tam - Wait a minute Was this actually played at Wigan? Really? Must have been WELL after I quit the scene. If Russ or Richard had spun this in 74, they'd most likely have been prodded several times with something sharp and pointy. It really is quite dreadful. Please, make it go away. PLEASE!
Bo Diddley Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 2 minutes ago, Joey said: Was this actually played at Wigan? Really? Must have been WELL after I quit the scene. If Russ or Richard had spun this in 74, they'd most likely have been prodded several times with something sharp and pointy. It really is quite dreadful. Please, make it go away. PLEASE! From memory, it was a big play in 1977. I assume that the "sharp and pointy" thing you refer to would be a lethal injection!!!!!!!!
Guest Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 Just now, bo diddley said: From memory, it was a big play in 1977. I assume that the "sharp and pointy" thing you refer to would be a lethal injection!!!!!!!! Quit the scene in late 75 in disgust, so fortunately missed out on just about all of the real garbage. The sharp and pointy thing would have been something a tad more primitive, and carried by very many of the dodgier members of the scene back then!
Tomangoes Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 More like 79 or 80 It got slagged off at the time of being played by the majority of soul fans, and represents just about the lowest point in the desperation to find new uptempo Northern. Ed
Guest Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 Just now, tomangoes said: More like 79 or 80 It got slagged off at the time of being played by the majority of soul fans, and represents just about the lowest point in the desperation to find new uptempo Northern. Ed Although obviously not there at the time, I can easily understand and agree regarding the lowest point etc. I really can't think of anything I ever heard quite as bad, and I've heard LOTS of crap over the years. I can just imagine Russ, stood there, thinking to himself, "If Cockell can play You're Ready Now at the Wheel, I reckon I can get away with this one".
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