jocko Posted November 20, 2014 Posted November 20, 2014 Isn't there a playlist of his last set at the Casino with Kenny Burke et al in it? It used to be all over the net but just googled it and cannot find it. I did get a link to this site where Chalky had put up an Echoes cut out with Searlings mid 81 chart but cannot find it now. Someone smarter than me can possibly find it on here. He finished with RideOut Something Special, we cried, he went off in a huff.
Pete S Posted November 20, 2014 Author Posted November 20, 2014 Right whoever wants this Wigan tape send me your email address and I will send it to somewhere where you can download it. No charge. Don't forget, the other, brilliant Wigan tape mentioned at the top of this thread is still available, £4.99 from my website download (www.rare-soul.com) or £6 on 2 x cd via post. 1
Modernsoulsucks Posted November 20, 2014 Posted November 20, 2014 Something I was going to mention the other day when this subject was brought up, but as you've raised it again........... The same can be said for when Richard did his JazzFM shows playing new releases in the 90's & early 2k.............a good many of the tunes came from the ear of Dean at Expansion in Manchester (think TOP "It Really Doesn't Matter" etc), so there are always people behind the scenes deserving of credit. This is true for many, so I'm not singling out Richard, but this is all relevant to him so it fits here. Of course, you've then got to be able to take them forward as the DJ and make them work within a whole set, particularly in a club, so it's not the end of the story when the DJ is told "hey, have a listen to this......it's a killer!" Cheers, Mark R I think that's probably somewhat erroneous. Richard was always into and buying new stuff as far back as 1972 when I met him. He wasn't solely a Northern guy. The era you're talking about in the early 90's I think a lot of the tracks played filtered up from London. Note the similarity of the TOP to 2-step. If Dean sees this thread he can add his thoughts. In Manchester at the time there were a lot of guys into that contempory sound. Mike Stevens was influential as a dj. ROD
Mark R Posted November 20, 2014 Posted November 20, 2014 I think that's probably somewhat erroneous. Richard was always into and buying new stuff as far back as 1972 when I met him. He wasn't solely a Northern guy. The era you're talking about in the early 90's I think a lot of the tracks played filtered up from London. Note the similarity of the TOP to 2-step. If Dean sees this thread he can add his thoughts. In Manchester at the time there were a lot of guys into that contempory sound. Mike Stevens was influential as a dj. ROD Hi Rod, On the first point, maybe you misunderstand. I'm sure Richard was always buying new releases, I wouldn't doubt that. I am just talking about a period that I am more familiar with. I take your point about the London thing, fair comment and again I wouldn't dispute that. Same with Mike S influence, I know Mike well, and am fully aware of his influence in the North West. I don't doubt any of these influences/contributions etc, but I do know that a proportion of the Richard's JazzFM playlist back then came via Dean's ear...........I used TOP as an example as I believed that to be a specific case, but as you say, I'm sure Dean can clarify if he sees this. But wherever the influence came from, I'm simply saying that there are always people behind the scenes who are "unsung heroes"........as a record buyer and DJ myself I can tell you that without question! Of course, it's not quite the same now with internet shopping for new releases where it's easier to find your own from the comfort of your armchair............given the ear! Cheers, Mark R
Speedlimit Posted November 20, 2014 Posted November 20, 2014 Never realised Tommy Ridgely was Wigan spin for Searling. Always thought it was John Vincent and few years later. Hi Chalky Tommy Ridgley was originally played by Jonathan covered up as johnny robinson in late 78 Richard never played it to my knowledge never heard john play it either was defo a notts palias spin for johathan along with frank Beverly " because my heart " covered as james faircough
Pete S Posted November 20, 2014 Author Posted November 20, 2014 Hi Chalky Tommy Ridgley was originally played by Jonathan covered up as johnny robinson in late 78 Richard never played it to my knowledge never heard john play it either was defo a notts palias spin for johathan along with frank Beverly " because my heart " covered as james faircough Well he's certainly playing it on this tape!
Mark R Posted November 20, 2014 Posted November 20, 2014 Right whoever wants this Wigan tape send me your email address and I will send it to somewhere where you can download it. No charge. Don't forget, the other, brilliant Wigan tape mentioned at the top of this thread is still available, £4.99 from my website download (www.rare-soul.com) or £6 on 2 x cd via post. Nu-Rons followed by Cheryll Berdell Pete! What's not to like! ;-) Cheers, Mark R 1
macca Posted November 20, 2014 Posted November 20, 2014 (edited) Here's RS's spot from the corresponding allnighter a year earlier: the week after the fifth anniversary 1978. Betty Boo ‘Say It Isn’t So’ Lou Roberts ‘You Fooled Me’ Vicki Baines ‘Country Girl’ Cobblestone ‘Trick Me Treat Me’ Paula Durante ‘If He Were Mine’ Benny Sigler ‘Who You Gonna Turn To’ Yvonne Vernee ‘Just Like You Did Me’ The Construction ‘Hey Little Way Out Girl’ Rita & The Tiaras ‘Gone With The Wind’ (first time out?) Jimmy Burns ‘I Really Love You’ Gerri Thomas ‘Look What I’ve Got’ J.C.Messina ‘Time Wont Let Me’ Paul Anka ‘When We Get There’ The Twans ‘I Can’t See Him Again’ Wakefield Sun ‘Trypt On Love’ The Dogs ‘Soul Step’ Reperata & The Delrons ‘It’s Waiting There For You’ The Newbeats ‘Don’t Turn Me Loose’ Toni Basil ‘Breakaway’ Holly St James ‘Thats Not Love’ Frankie Beverly & The Butlers ‘Because Of My Heart’ Bobby Paris ‘I Walked Away’ Lou Roberts ‘You Fooled Me’ (again) Tamala Lewis ‘You Won’t Say Nothing’ The Generation ‘Hold On’ Ben Zine ‘Village Of Tears’ Family Affair ‘Love Hustle’ The Millionaires ‘You’ve Got To Love Your Baby’ The Wall Of Sound ‘Hang On’ Peggy March ‘If You Love Me’ The Construction ‘Hey Little Way Out Girl’ (again) Paula Durante ‘If He Were Mine’ (again) A good 50% of those are dire to my ears... Edited November 20, 2014 by macca
Pete S Posted November 20, 2014 Author Posted November 20, 2014 Nu-Rons followed by Cheryll Berdell Pete! What's not to like! ;-) Cheers, Mark R I got cheryll berdell and larry houston and all the 60's - but still stacks of 70's on there
Pete S Posted November 20, 2014 Author Posted November 20, 2014 A good 50% of those are dire to my ears... Have to agree with you - I could live without 15 of those 1
21 Again Posted November 20, 2014 Posted November 20, 2014 Ah Jock She Devil, was browsing through the box behind the counter at Unknown Pleasures the other week and came across this. I played it on the decks just to refresh my memory of it. Sure did, just had a vision of Sam introducing it only for the dance floor empty and i think we all agreed it was just too much at the time. Best days of my life 79-82, 60s,70s, 80s, quality new album tracks happy days. Cheers Pete Doonan. 1
Wiganer1 Posted November 20, 2014 Posted November 20, 2014 she devils a gr8 track,,,,,same label as curtis sam also played leo and co - hot dog covered up as casino strut
Wiganer1 Posted November 20, 2014 Posted November 20, 2014 Hi Chalky Tommy Ridgley was originally played by Jonathan covered up as johnny robinson in late 78 Richard never played it to my knowledge never heard john play it either was defo a notts palias spin for johathan along with frank Beverly " because my heart " covered as james faircough got searling playing frankie beverley at the 5th anniversary sep 78...gr8 record still
Arthur Fenn Posted November 20, 2014 Posted November 20, 2014 Hi Chalky Tommy Ridgley was originally played by Jonathan covered up as johnny robinson in late 78 Richard never played it to my knowledge never heard john play it either was defo a notts palias spin for johathan along with frank Beverly " because my heart " covered as james faircough James Fairclough was Pokes c/up circa 77for the Startones tho , can't remember FB ever covered?
Arthur Fenn Posted November 20, 2014 Posted November 20, 2014 loved his c/up names, even the dodgy ones had credibility after Richard had tweeked them , got to say that although John supplied 99% of the tracks ( as he did with the most of us ) Richard set a very high standard with his style of djing, glad i was around at that time 3
Guest Mart B Posted November 20, 2014 Posted November 20, 2014 I recall Patti Young Head and Shoulders played around the same time has a Newie ? or was it a revamped oldie.
Pete S Posted November 20, 2014 Author Posted November 20, 2014 I recall Patti Young Head and Shoulders played around the same time has a Newie ? or was it a revamped oldie. Was an oldie - had been pressed on Out Of The Past in 1973-74
21 Again Posted November 20, 2014 Posted November 20, 2014 she devils a gr8 track,,,,,same label as curtis sam also played leo and co - hot dog covered up as casino strut Yes it is a good tune but at the time when Sam tried to break it it just wasnt happening, I was gonna buy it £10 but plumped for other goodies.
Wiganer1 Posted November 20, 2014 Posted November 20, 2014 only available on 12" ,,,i like it but goes on too long,,
Wiganer1 Posted November 20, 2014 Posted November 20, 2014 Was an oldie - had been pressed on Out Of The Past in 1973-74 one oldie ive never had - fabulous record!
21 Again Posted November 20, 2014 Posted November 20, 2014 only available on 12" ,,,i like it but goes on too long,, Was on a seven must have bee booted ?
Pete S Posted November 21, 2014 Author Posted November 21, 2014 (edited) Well done to Jock for listening and working out the track list, I got the 60's ones but hardly knew any 70's ones.. Charles Mann Sho Nuff No Funky Stuff Do You Love Me (Do You Love What You Feel ?? Keni Burke Let Somebody Love You Curtis How Can I Tell Her Main Change Sunshine Is Her Way JohnnY Honeycutt I’m Coming Over Vivian Carrol Oh Yeah (Roddy Joy c/u) Deadbeats No Second Chance (Phantom Janitor) Pierre Hunt The Thought of Loving You William Powell All These Things (Bobby Jason c/u) Ike Strong — Your Love Keeps Me Dancing (Lee Moore c/u) Nu-Rons All of My Life (Lamar Thomas) Cheryl Burdell Giving It All (Esther Williams c/u) Jewel - Paradise Leon Bryant — Might Body Hotsy Totsy John & The Weirdest - Memories Little Ann — When Hes Not Around (Rose Valentine c/u) Daybreak — I Need Love (Tyrone Edwards c/u) Larrry Houston — Lets Spend Some Together (Top Cat c/u) Garry Glenn — I Wanna Give You My Love Oscar Perry — Let Me Do It Oscar Perry Wind Me Up Cecil Washington — I Don’t Like To Lose (Joe Mathews c/u) The Q — That’s The Way (James Lewis c/u) Combinations - Watcha gonna do Damon Fox Packing Up Royal Esquires — Aint Gonna Run (Chessman c/u) Court Davis — Try And Think (Herbie Williams c/u) Mr Soul — What Happened to Yesterday (Maurice McAllister C/U ) Edited November 21, 2014 by Pete S
jocko Posted November 21, 2014 Posted November 21, 2014 only available on 12" ,,,i like it but goes on too long,, She Devil? It was always played off a 7". When Sam played it at Clouds Bruce, the promoter, told him to take it off half way. Awful record, I have a 7" somewhere in the depths if you want to offer a large amount for a never known before to exist 7" 1
jocko Posted November 21, 2014 Posted November 21, 2014 (edited) The earworm that is the second record has me now thinking it was Patti Austin Do You Love Me, Searling did play this and timing was right, is it an uptempo female vocal, with the chorus, unsurprisingly, do you love me. It does sound like a Rod Temperton thing, will investigate later. very enjoyable memory jerker, but as I said to Pete, may have been one of his last sets as he played more 60's and seemed to just blend them in, which he did with one night that was rumoured to be his last. It wasnt. Anyone found the echoes clips of his last night or before playlists on here yet? I just cant get search to work right, Edited November 21, 2014 by jocko
Sebastian Posted November 21, 2014 Posted November 21, 2014 The earworm that is the second record has me now thinking it was Patti Austin Do You Love Me, Searling did play this and timing was right, is it an uptempo female vocal, with the chorus, unsurprisingly, do you love me. It does sound like a Rod Temperton thing, will investigate later. Chaka Khan?
jocko Posted November 21, 2014 Posted November 21, 2014 (edited) Chaka Khan? That was the first thing came to mind but that was a year or so old by then, and he tended to play new releases. I cannot listen to both now, but will check later. I may even have added the do you love what I feel as a chorus because that came to mind :-) I was listening while working and managed to miss one track out completely so need a refresh. It took me back though, almost tearful! Edited November 21, 2014 by jocko 1
Wiganer1 Posted November 21, 2014 Posted November 21, 2014 She Devil? It was always played off a 7". When Sam played it at Clouds Bruce, the promoter, told him to take it off half way. Awful record, I have a 7" somewhere in the depths if you want to offer a large amount for a never known before to exist 7" I know she devil is on a 7 inch I was on about leo and co........hotdog lol
soultronic Posted November 21, 2014 Posted November 21, 2014 like arthur said , loved those cover up names sammy gaha - thank you - [brian holland and new york port authotity.] tommy tate - you taught me how to love [ ivy joe hunter. was larry brown - breaking training covered up. david ruffin was supposed to like the song and wanted to cover it . wonder if thats in the can somewhere. some of pat bradys spins i liked . the dells - your song . escorts - sing a happy song and i thought very bravely wilson picketts - how will i ever know . CHOON . by way of a quiz who can remember the cover up name . never gonna be covered up for long with wilsons pipes .
Triode Posted November 21, 2014 Posted November 21, 2014 I thought the Combinations was covered as The Chessmen "like I never did before"& the Royal Esquires was covered as The Embers "Playing the part of a fool"Could be wrong ? .......Where's Flynny when you need him.Triode 1
Petebangor Posted November 21, 2014 Posted November 21, 2014 I thought the Combinations was covered as The Chessmen "like I never did before" & the Royal Esquires was covered as The Embers "Playing the part of a fool" Could be wrong ? .......Where's Flynny when you need him. Triode You're right Combinations was covered as The Chessmen, and Royal Esquires as The Embers
Petebangor Posted November 21, 2014 Posted November 21, 2014 (edited) like arthur said , loved those cover up names sammy gaha - thank you - [brian holland and new york port authotity.] tommy tate - you taught me how to love [ ivy joe hunter. was larry brown - breaking training covered up. david ruffin was supposed to like the song and wanted to cover it . wonder if thats in the can somewhere. some of pat bradys spins i liked . the dells - your song . escorts - sing a happy song and i thought very bravely wilson picketts - how will i ever know . CHOON . by way of a quiz who can remember the cover up name . never gonna be covered up for long with wilsons pipes . WIlson Pickett was covered up as Brother Louie Brown Edited November 21, 2014 by petebangor
Petebangor Posted November 21, 2014 Posted November 21, 2014 The earworm that is the second record has me now thinking it was Patti Austin Do You Love Me, Searling did play this and timing was right, is it an uptempo female vocal, with the chorus, unsurprisingly, do you love me. It does sound like a Rod Temperton thing, will investigate later. very enjoyable memory jerker, but as I said to Pete, may have been one of his last sets as he played more 60's and seemed to just blend them in, which he did with one night that was rumoured to be his last. It wasnt. Anyone found the echoes clips of his last night or before playlists on here yet? I just cant get search to work right, Second record is Patti Austin
Petebangor Posted November 21, 2014 Posted November 21, 2014 Well done to Jock for listening and working out the track list, I got the 60's ones but hardly knew any 70's ones.. Charles Mann Sho Nuff No Funky Stuff Do You Love Me (Do You Love What You Feel ?? Keni Burke Let Somebody Love You Curtis How Can I Tell Her Main Change Sunshine Is Her Way JohnnY Honeycutt I’m Coming Over Vivian Carrol Oh Yeah (Roddy Joy c/u) Deadbeats No Second Chance (Phantom Janitor) Pierre Hunt The Thought of Loving You William Powell All These Things (Bobby Jason c/u) Ike Strong — Your Love Keeps Me Dancing (Lee Moore c/u) Nu-Rons All of My Life (Lamar Thomas) Cheryl Burdell Giving It All (Esther Williams c/u) Jewel - Paradise Leon Bryant — Might Body Hotsy Totsy John & The Weirdest - Memories Little Ann — When Hes Not Around (Rose Valentine c/u) Daybreak — I Need Love (Tyrone Edwards c/u) Larrry Houston — Lets Spend Some Together (Top Cat c/u) Garry Glenn — I Wanna Give You My Love Oscar Perry — Let Me Do It Oscar Perry Wind Me Up Cecil Washington — I Don’t Like To Lose (Joe Mathews c/u) The Q — That’s The Way (James Lewis c/u) Combinations - Watcha gonna do Damon Fox Packing Up Royal Esquires — Aint Gonna Run (Chessman c/u) Court Davis — Try And Think (Herbie Williams c/u) Mr Soul — What Happened to Yesterday (Maurice McAllister C/U ) Cody Marshall - The Thought Of Loving You. Pierre Hunt was the C/U
Mark R Posted November 22, 2014 Posted November 22, 2014 Keb plays The Royal Esquires as the Embers in the Leicester video as late as '84......... Cheers, Mark R
Chalky Posted November 22, 2014 Posted November 22, 2014 (edited) Well done to Jock for listening and working out the track list, I got the 60's ones but hardly knew any 70's ones.. Pierre Hunt The Thought of Loving You Dunno if anyone has already mentioned but this is Cody Marshall on Sound Judgement. Looks a great set bar one or two, has it been uploaded (I haven't caught up with all the posts yet)? P.S. Now caught up and seen Petebangor mentioned it Edited November 22, 2014 by chalky
Chalky Posted November 22, 2014 Posted November 22, 2014 It used to be all over the net but just googled it and cannot find it. I did get a link to this site where Chalky had put up an Echoes cut out with Searlings mid 81 chart but cannot find it now. Someone smarter than me can possibly find it on here. He finished with RideOut Something Special, we cried, he went off in a huff. Here you go mate, I'll post it again for you... 14th March 1981 1
Mark R Posted November 22, 2014 Posted November 22, 2014 Here you go mate, I'll post it again for you... 14th March 1981Richard Searling Wigan Top 20 Echoes March 14th 1981.png I'm sure there's another one, pretty much his last Wigan spot. And the other one I'm thinking of is a list of Morecambe spins.....includes a cut from Johnny Gills Cotillion LP etc.... Cheers, Mark R
Guest Mr Ms DJ Posted November 22, 2014 Posted November 22, 2014 like arthur said , loved those cover up names sammy gaha - thank you - [brian holland and new york port authotity.] tommy tate - you taught me how to love [ ivy joe hunter. was larry brown - breaking training covered up. david ruffin was supposed to like the song and wanted to cover it . wonder if thats in the can somewhere. some of pat bradys spins i liked . the dells - your song . escorts - sing a happy song and i thought very bravely wilson picketts - how will i ever know . CHOON . by way of a quiz who can remember the cover up name . never gonna be covered up for long with wilsons pipes . YEP larry browm c/up bits n pieces
Chalky Posted November 22, 2014 Posted November 22, 2014 I'm sure there's another one, pretty much his last Wigan spot. And the other one I'm thinking of is a list of Morecambe spins.....includes a cut from Johnny Gills Cotillion LP etc.... Cheers, Mark R I'll get the echoes I have out later and see, don't think I have any later on the PC although I will check.
Guest Mr Ms DJ Posted November 22, 2014 Posted November 22, 2014 WIlson Pickett was covered up as Brother Louie Brown wasnt that pat bradys c/up pat always played this
soultronic Posted November 22, 2014 Posted November 22, 2014 yes i always loved wilson pickett. right up there with walk with a winner and the drifter for me. deep soul for the dance floor . not exactly a floor filler but brave of pat to persevere with it , and he gave it a good run . love chalkys list what was track 12. the natural four - youre choosing , cant place that one. what was the swap deal that richard and sam did . sure i remember sam playing charles johnson and then anouncing butch had a box of these at a fiver a pop. is this correct or had i inhaled too much brut ! like mark i would love to see any playlists .wigan , rotherham stafford , morecambe .
Guest Posted November 22, 2014 Posted November 22, 2014 I thought the Combinations was covered as The Chessmen "like I never did before" & the Royal Esquires was covered as The Embers "Playing the part of a fool" Could be wrong ? .......Where's Flynny when you need him. Triode You're spot on, mate! Where am I...out digging for records of course...will put a few choice pieces up in sales later!
Chalky Posted November 22, 2014 Posted November 22, 2014 For comparisons sake, some more top 10's and 20's from around the same period, two from Pat B at Clifton Hall but I presume he was playing the first at Wigan as well? 2
Mark R Posted November 22, 2014 Posted November 22, 2014 Wasn't the Sam/Richard swap deal something like William Powell (Bobby Jason) and Larry Houston (Top Cat)? It was a bit of a miss match for sure!! Cheers, Mark R
Popular Post Pete S Posted November 22, 2014 Author Popular Post Posted November 22, 2014 For comparisons sake, some more top 10's and 20's from around the same period, two from Pat B at Clifton Hall but I presume he was playing the first at Wigan as well? Russ Winstanley Mick Smith Top 10s March 21st 1981 Echoes.png Dave Thorley Top Sounds Echoes July 11th 1981.png Pat Brady Clifton Hall Top 15 March 28 1981.png Pat Brady Top 20 Rotherham Allnighter March 6th 1982.jpg Chalky, I have a 2 x C90 recording of Clifton Hall Rotherham around this time, if anyone wants to hear it I'll sort it out. 4
Chalky Posted November 22, 2014 Posted November 22, 2014 Chalky, I have a 2 x C90 recording of Clifton Hall Rotherham around this time, if anyone wants to hear it I'll sort it out. I'd love to hear it, I love listening to snapshots in time and that is just what these are and need preserving. 1
Soul Shrews Posted November 22, 2014 Posted November 22, 2014 . love chalkys list what was track 12. the natural four - youre choosing , cant place that one. . Gifted Four "Are You Choosing" Cheers Paul
soultronic Posted November 23, 2014 Posted November 23, 2014 cheers for the replies on some of my questions chaps . if greece had had as many oracles as soul source the empire would never have collapsed ! cheers for the heads up on that gifted four record paul just gave it a spin on youtube one of those id totally forgotten about . but remember it well , love it to death. on the richard / sam swap , mark , i know it was a couple of tunes , was skip mahoney - janice in there .not sure. great lists chalky. the more the merrier.
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