Oh Dear! Wigan Celebrate Soul

[Haydn]

Was there any dealers there? Just for authenticity like!

[Mark S]

Nothing suprises me any more I think that Northern soul the brand belongs to the public let em have it , but the Northern soul scene belongs to us still . People can do what they want I will still get out to events and play my vinyl at home and hopefully be seeking out quality soul music long after this current fad has moved on .

[Quinvy]

When was that ? I fished for Gaswise liverpool for 7 years. Spent twenty years fishing the northwest canal circuit .

 

Stevew

You must be pretty handy then Steve, they are a very good outfit. We probably never crossed poles as I fished in the Lancashire winter league, and fished for a Yorkshire team for years.

[Drewtg]

I'm more concerned Wigan allows scooterists to drive around with no hemets on!

 

Bloody scooters again! What have scooters got to do with Wigan? I went for eight years and never saw one, and I didn't see any mods (mod's?) either. Arrivistes!

[stewmac]

Video showing people having a good time nothing else , too many Victor Meldrews complaining for me !

[Steve G]

Bloody scooters again! What have scooters got to do with Wigan? I went for eight years and never saw one, and I didn't see any mods (mod's?) either. Arrivistes!

 

The scooters didn't arrive til the end - last year or two, post Quadrophenia I think…Agree up til then you never saw a scooter at Wigan Casino. 

[Winsford Soul]

You must be pretty handy then Steve, they are a very good outfit. We probably never crossed poles as I fished in the Lancashire winter league, and fished for a Yorkshire team for years.

Fished 1st div nationals. Northwest winter league, Cheshire winter league, Welsh winter league,a few semi finals. One final. Super cup. Super league. World club championship.

Pretty high level.hard bloody work.

Steve

[Back Street Blue]

Fished 1st div nationals. Northwest winter league, Cheshire winter league, Welsh winter league,a few semi finals. One final. Super cup. Super league. World club championship.

Pretty high level.hard bloody work.

Steve

....And whilst we're off-topic thinking of kicking off a fisherman's tales thread in FB

....And back on topic....how hard was taking on Mark Addy's lads on Dover Lock (well it's near Wigan)?

[Quinvy]

Fished 1st div nationals. Northwest winter league, Cheshire winter league, Welsh winter league,a few semi finals. One final. Super cup. Super league. World club championship.

Pretty high level.hard bloody work.

Steve

Very much hard work, and bloody expensive at the top level. I just couldn't commit the time and money anymore. Thinking back now, I just lived for it and I wonder why I did it all? I think I have an obsessive disorder.   

[Quinvy]

The scooters didn't arrive til the end - last year or two, post Quadrophenia I think…Agree up til then you never saw a scooter at Wigan Casino. 

You wouldn't dare ride a scooter to Wigan or anywhere else in those days. They used to get stolen for fun back then. We once went on ours just up the road to Burnley Cats Whiskers and my mates scoot was vandalised. I had my Lambretta stolen twice from outside my girlfriends house. There was a huge black market in stolen scooters in those days.

[Stubbsy]

Check the video of the so called "Northern Soul dance tutor responsible

https://www.youtube....t20zOkq5Wg#t=18

 

Oh jeeez thats very bad...ha! Just the music is enough!

Coming to a soul night near you

[spot]

Before we get too hung up on dance lessons it's not exactly confined to this scene

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNACcfLRABk

 

Loads of these videos on YT.

 

See also shag lessons.

 

ROD

But Rod those lovely Black Ladies actually look cool doing it & have rhythm & style, unlike the Uk versions that look like the Douglas Bader dance troop.  

Spot.  

p.s. i've just watched it again and I love em all, they're just so COOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Edited November 17, 2014 by spot

[KevH]

Was there any dealers there? Just for authenticity like!

 

Dj's lurking in the background.? 

[Guest johnny hart]

WOW!  some of those comments on u. tube ,positively horrible! I,m with  steve lane ,billy whizz, and the adorable pete.s.   Just a bit of fun. Imagine the effect those comments could have on the great kids in the video clip ,such intolerance.

[Quinvy]

Dj's lurking in the background.? 

Yeh, "what's this crap he's playing? I could do much better. Giz a spot."

[Veedub]

You wouldn't dare ride a scooter to Wigan or anywhere else in those days. They used to get stolen for fun back then. We once went on ours just up the road to Burnley Cats Whiskers and my mates scoot was vandalised. I had my Lambretta stolen twice from outside my girlfriends house. There was a huge black market in stolen scooters in those days.

Well I only ever saw 2 or 3 scoots there from 79 till the end.. 

BUT...  In the winter of 1980 , I went to Wigan on a lambretta.  I picked my mate up from Pelsall near Walsall  (Timmy Thacker). , and in the freezing cold, we rode all the way up the M6, 80 odd miles , and it even started to snow and sleet . we were going flat out at 55 mph and had to stop at every services else we'd have froze to death. 

My scoot was a 1969 GP125 id bought for £50 dragged out of a neighbours shed.. we had no AA, no tools or mechanical knowledge  , but we made it ... Went down a one way street in Wigan  ( the wrong way) and cars flashing us   , then got to the Casino, 

 we leaned the scoot against the wall on the side of the Casino cus the stand was broke.  I remember the place was nearly empty, just a couple of hundred there, it was a crap night really, and the next morning, my bike was still there, and we had to bump start it outside . 

 The exhaust cracked as we got on the M6 and it was deafening all the way home and losing power..  nearly got wiped out by a few lorries, but made it home...

I can still picture Timmy on the back with his leather bomber jacket shivering.

 we were only 18 and it was one of the madder things ive done....

But we did it... and every time i see Timmy , he says "remember when we went to Wigan on your scooter mick ! "     

[Pete S]

WOW!  some of those comments on u. tube ,positively horrible! I,m with  steve lane ,billy whizz, and the adorable pete.s.   Just a bit of fun. Imagine the effect those comments could have on the great kids in the video clip ,such intolerance.

 

Thanks Mum 

[dedji1955]

Check this video of a so called "Northern Soul Dance Workshop" to train the dancers for the Galleries video

I don't blame the kids but the Tutors and the Galleries Manager should be ashamed

 

 

[Pete S]

Check this video of a so called "Northern Soul Dance Workshop" to train the dancers for the Galleries video

I don't blame the kids but the Tutors and the Galleries Manager should be ashamed

 

 

Some of the kids are definitely getting it but the whole point is that it's about INDIVIDUALISM and not f*cking line dancing, everyone does not or did not do the same dance, most took a style and put their own spin on it, so this is why dance classes like the above don't work.  

[Guest James Trouble]

I feel sick. 

[Steve G]

I feel sick. 

 

Pass the bucket when you finished….

[Steve G]

Some of the kids are definitely getting it but the whole point is that it's about INDIVIDUALISM and not f*cking line dancing, everyone does not or did not do the same dance, most took a style and put their own spin on it, so this is why dance classes like the above don't work.  

 

Very true…feel the music….not follow a tutor….

[Zed1]

feel the music…

 

Feel a tit more like....

[Zed1]

Check this video of a so called "Northern Soul Dance Workshop" to train the dancers for the Galleries video

I don't blame the kids but the Tutors and the Galleries Manager should be ashamed

 

 

 

I bet Diversity are Sh*ting themselves.....

[Drewtg]

The scooters didn't arrive til the end - last year or two, post Quadrophenia I think…Agree up til then you never saw a scooter at Wigan Casino. 

 

Exactly! I met more gays at Wigan than I did mods, does that mean it was a BIG gay venue?

It's starting to annoy me now (Meldrewish I know). What is a mod anyway, someone who wears old-fashioned clothes and likes old scooters?

[KevH]

Some of the kids are definitely getting it but the whole point is that it's about INDIVIDUALISM and not f*cking line dancing, everyone does not or did not do the same dance, most took a style and put their own spin on it, so this is why dance classes like the above don't work.  

 

What they need is to turn the lights right own,and have some scary fooker with X-ray glare wandering among them.Get some atmosphere going.Far too nice.When did this become about having fun.??

[hullsoul]

It could drive you to drugs

Cheers

Martyn

[Steve L]

Could people please stop posting shit like this, then I could pretend its not actually happening………………...

[KevH]

It could drive you to drugs

Cheers

Martyn

start the car Martyn

[Northern Soul Uk]

Just addeed my comment to the video'

 

Makes me laff cos it was Wigan council who closed the Casino down because "There were plans to build on the site"? Then it caught fire, mmm? So this is like a "Look what we killed in Wigan" tribute.

[Guest Bearsy]

Bloody hell! I can't believe I get slated for a spelling error when there's some on here that can't put a cohesive sentence together. 

 

And I don't need any lessons on coarse fishing, I used to be a bit of a canal ace actually. 

I actually read that last bit as "I used to be a bit of an anal case"    sorry Phil I think I need lessons too 

[Mark S]

I bet Diversity are Sh*ting themselves.....

I am shitting myself been at it for years and I,m not that good .

[El Corol]

Does anybody on here remember being young, fecking about and learning about new things? Did you all walk through the doors of VaVa's, Mecca and Wigan with full on soul knowledge and being a full on serious soul head (maybe former Wheel and Torch heads etc are exempted here?) or was part of going out about having a laff as as well as about the music.

Don't get me wrong I struggle with the "line dancing" and all the baggy nostalgia scene, but young kids having a laff dancing in a shopping centre is not the end of the world in a year we remember 100 years since the start of the 1st world war.

Perspective people!

[Gerry H]

It wasn't Wigan Council who did the video it was the Manageress of the Galleries Shopping Centre

She approached the local Soul Clubs to get involved, but no one would work with her when she wouldn't take on board the advice she was given

 

Non of the current councillors or staff have any connections with decisions made over 30 years ago and as responsible adults let alone councillors who wouldn't try and close a venue that was responsible for a massive increase in robberies to chemists, vehicle theft and where the majority of folks attending where taking speed and I speak as someone who started going the Casino in 1970 and participated in the above

One of the local Councillors promotes one of the longest running local Soul venues which attracts folks from all over the country and has promoted local Nighters

 

Although the Twisted Wheel was originally closed because the local authority and police decided to withdraw the licence that allowed Nighters to be held folks appear to conveniently forget this and decisions made in other areas but keep going on about Wigan Council.. Most folks are also unaware what was in Gerry Marshalls lease from the council but quote and rely on Chinese Whispers

 

The video is crap and as someone who is active on the local scene I can tell you none of the locals who are out n about are happy with it

 

Check the video of the so called "Northern Soul dance tutor responsible

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ot20zOkq5Wg#t=18

is that how you dance fook me i been doing it wrong all these years

[Winnie :-)]

Where's the video showing how to run up to the decks to see what's playing

[Winsford Soul]

I actually read that last bit as "I used to be a bit of an anal case"    sorry Phil I think I need lessons too 

Or glasses Bearsy.

Steve

[spot]

Check this video of a so called "Northern Soul Dance Workshop" to train the dancers for the Galleries video

I don't blame the kids but the Tutors and the Galleries Manager should be ashamed

 

It's a keep fit class with Motown/Northern Music as a back drop SURELY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If not the organisers want f**kin with a rag mans  trumpet followed by a barbed wire pull through, some people will do anything for the green and have no shame.      

Spot.  

[spot]

It could drive you to drugs

Cheers

Martyn

Every cloud etc.  

p.s. Most of em look like they're already on strong medication.    

Edited November 17, 2014 by spot

[spot]

Where's the video showing how to run up to the decks to see what's playing

Winnie that's not until lesson 3, after 2 where you swear allegiance, loyalty and love to Emperor Russ of Wigonia.  

[spot]

WOW!  some of those comments on u. tube ,positively horrible! I,m with  steve lane ,billy whizz, and the adorable pete.s.   Just a bit of fun. Imagine the effect those comments could have on the great kids in the video clip ,such intolerance.

It's a tough world and if us old has beens can't give em grief, cos we've bin there and done it, then who can and it's the only bit of fun some of us get now a days btw I think Pete S must becoming a bit softer and mellow, saying it's just a bit of fun, come on Pete Growl, you know you want to and Billy Whizz just loves everyone, which you can when your the face of "This England", and why put it up on YT if you don't want ridiculing, youth I hate em, they're so YOUNG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!    

Spot.  

[dedji1955]

Check this response the Galleries have left on Youtube

 

 

We’re thrilled that so many people are viewing our Northern Soul video. Although some of the dancing in the video may not be strictly Northern Soul style the students at Wigan and Leigh College and the other dancers who were involved in the video embraced the style of music and dance - we think they did a fantastic job! We approached many Northern Soulies that go to the local clubs and although they expressed interest in being a part of the video unfortunately they didn’t come to the filming day. This was a project by The Galleries Shopping Centre with support from Wigan and Leigh College and Wigan Council. We wanted to reinvigorate Northern Soul in Wigan and introduce it to generations who may not know about it and its significance in the Wigan community in the 1960s.  ï»¿

[spot]

 

Check this response the Galleries have left on Youtube

 

 

We’re thrilled that so many people are viewing our Northern Soul video. Although some of the dancing in the video may not be strictly Northern Soul style the students at Wigan and Leigh College and the other dancers who were involved in the video embraced the style of music and dance - we think they did a fantastic job! We approached many Northern Soulies that go to the local clubs and although they expressed interest in being a part of the video unfortunately they didn’t come to the filming day. This was a project by The Galleries Shopping Centre with support from Wigan and Leigh College and Wigan Council. We wanted to reinvigorate Northern Soul in Wigan and introduce it to generations who may not know about it and its significance in the Wigan community in the 1960s.  ï»¿

 

That told us then!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  

Spot.  

[Mark S]

Yes northern soul was so significant in 1960,s Wigan . More ill infomed rubbish , as I recall the locals and the council hated us .

[Soulandy]

is this Northern Line dancing??? I don't know wether to laugh or cry at all these "workshops", still, it'll be over by Christmas :-)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCoCDP_X0ww#t=71

Edited November 17, 2014 by soulandy

[Billywhizz]

It's a tough world and if us old has beens can't give em grief, cos we've bin there and done it, then who can and it's the only bit of fun some of us get now a days btw I think Pete S must becoming a bit softer and mellow, saying it's just a bit of fun, come on Pete Growl, you know you want to and Billy Whizz just loves everyone, which you can when your the face of "This England", and why put it up on YT if you don't want ridiculing, youth I hate em, they're so YOUNG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!    

Spot.  

lol spot luv you too, just saw this , now off to work to have some funnnnn billy

[Guest Chris61]

 

 

 

 

 We wanted to reinvigorate Northern Soul in Wigan and introduce it to generations who may not know about it..

 

 

They be applying for planing permission to build a new "Casino" next, if they think they can make money out of it.

[pow wow mik]

Does anybody on here remember being young, fecking about and learning about new things? Did you all walk through the doors of VaVa's, Mecca and Wigan with full on soul knowledge and being a full on serious soul head (maybe former Wheel and Torch heads etc are exempted here?) or was part of going out about having a laff as as well as about the music.

Don't get me wrong I struggle with the "line dancing" and all the baggy nostalgia scene, but young kids having a laff dancing in a shopping centre is not the end of the world in a year we remember 100 years since the start of the 1st world war.

Perspective people!

Well, you could say that no one can complain about or criticise anything, because it's not as bad as the first world war. Illogical argument. Wars are more likely to start if people impulsively follow or tollerate banal cultural trends like a pack of sheep instead of thinking about the true meaning of things, so you could argue it either way.

And I do remember being a kid, and I was cooler than I am now and wouldn't have been seen dead doing silly dancing in a shopping mall. Only thing I'd be in a shopping mall for would be robbing.

come on, do we want the world to be cool and reflect the emotions and interests of intelligent adults or do we want it to just be a big family fun trivial joke?

The antidote to the bad things in life isn't triviality

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Edited November 18, 2014 by pow wow mik

[El Corol]

Well, you could say that no one can complain about or criticise anything, because it's not as bad as the first world war. Illogical argument. Wars are more likely to start if people impulsively follow or tollerate banal cultural trends like a pack of sheep instead of thinking about the true meaning of things, so you could argue it either way.

And I do remember being a kid, and I was cooler than I am now and wouldn't have been seen dead doing silly dancing in a shopping mall. Only thing I'd be in a shopping mall for would be robbing.

come on, do we want the world to be cool and reflect the emotions and interests of intelligent adults or do we want it to just be a big family fun trivial joke?

The antidote to the bad things in life isn't triviality

]

 

 

"Well, you could say that no one can complain about or criticise anything, because it's not as bad as the first world war. Illogical argument."

 

Well I concede that by adding the comparison with the First World War I was trying to highlight that in the scheme of things the shopping centre video doesn't really figure too much (for me) as something to worry about because life can throw shittier things at you than that. I think I should have owned my comment instead of making a generalised statement. So I can see why you have written what you did.

 

I don't advocate or argue that should be anyones approach to life. Although I do think there is some logic to thinking like that as many people do try to contextualise/absorb/deal with things that happen to them in their lives by comparing and contrasting with other people/events/situations etc. Its the "it could be worse......." type of thinking. It can be useful, but has its limitations.

 

I agree that the antidote to bad things in life isn't triviality, but don't we need some triviality sometimes? Just as light relief from the BS of life, I know I do (and i'm not saying that the shopping centre video is my idea of fun or light relief).

 

I think it is crap when things are seen publicly that caricature the soul scene (or whatever name people want to give it) its just some rile me more (or less) than others - The One Show being an example of one that riled me more!

Edited November 20, 2014 by El Corol