Irene And The Scott's - I'm Stuck On My Baby

[Henrun]

It looks as though it migrated over to the auction instead of your mail box (see post 41) on that same day.

 

Could have been just an oversight in not updating discogs (I personally don't know how that system works). Anyway, here's a link:

 

https://www.raresoulman.co.uk/index.php/auction/latest

 

... you never know, if you're lucky you might be able to pick it up for less than the original £85 price tag?!? 

I think it's the promo on the auction. Mine was the issue.

Perhaps it is time for a post in the wants section.

[Quinvy]

Again, Mik I get what you're saying but it doesn't kinda tie in with my overall experience or impression of what is going on.

 

Latest things I got off EBay highest number of bidders was around 3 and that was for pretty standard well-known stuff that you see much higher on sales lists over here. You'd think if there were a lot of interested folk out there then there would have been more interest.

 

My experience of selling at say Radcliffe or Burnley is that very few interested. Had more look through my box at Wigan in first 10 minutes than all night recently.

 

Hence I've not come to any firm conclusions as yet. I know part of the explanation is demand when a 45 gets "talked up", some of it is to do with buying for re-sale I feel. And I guess some of it comes down to buyers being clueless in some instances especially in relation to boot prices.

 

As Kev says it doesn't do to overanalyse things but in this instance it's the random nature of the thing that makes it interesting to me.

 

ROD

Rod, sales at events have been getting worse for years and years. Like everything else it's all about on line sales these days. Nobody can be arsed trawling through bloody great boxes of mainly crap anymore. Not when a few minutes on Google can turn up the record you are searching for.

[Labeat]

Rod, sales at events have been getting worse for years and years. Like everything else it's all about on line sales these days. Nobody can be arsed trawling through bloody great boxes of mainly crap anymore. Not when a few minutes on Google can turn up the record you are searching for.

 

But Phil, collectors, Anoraks, hunter/gatherers get a buzz from sifting through sales, in fact plenty are oblivious to whats being played on the decks,

having sales at venues is a must, it's an important part of the whole scene

[Chalky]

Radcliffe was busy in the record bar last week, busiest I've seen it for a while, Lifeline usually pretty busy, all tables taken anyway.   Not all nighters busy though, 100 Club hardly any other week.  I and others though have noticed more money being spent when out and about but have to agree it is easier on line these days, especially if you have specific wants.

[Liamgp]

I think that this is a reality that people who have been collecting years are struggling to come to terms with - the fact that these various strands of vintage black music have finally trancended the realm of the hardcore enthusiast and achieved worldwide recognition amongst certain demographics; become a mainstream lifestyle accessory.

who these people are is something of a mystery to me, but I'd guess at 30 something culture vultures on one hand and bored middle aged men with surplus wealth to blow - replacing wurlitzers and stupid sports cars with old vinyl.

Old vinyl, whether actually having it, or pretending to have it via boots, seems to be the lifestyle choice of our time, and exists way above and beyond the days when you knew everyone who was into it, days which even i remember.

not only do prices for cult and classic records reflect this extra demand, but the whole concept of value has changed. Records that were cheap for years can shoot up almost overnight, as a record's profile suddenly reaches this new audience.

i remember being gutted in the 90s when i found out that the wayne carter i'd paid £100 for was part of the entire stock turning up. I felt properly ripped off, cos the way i figured it, i knew everyone in the world who would consider buying the record at any price, and they amounted to about 50 people; a few hundred turning up made the thing more or less worthless.

today, by contrast, a record existing in the 1000s, like the irma & scotts, is actually rare in the context of the 1000s of people worldwide who are now djs or collectors.

A common record, something like nina simone ' dont come back jack' sells week in, week out around $90....total sales at that price would have put it in the charts it's sold so many.

So for a record so good, and for such an archetypal piece of iconic cultural history, that makes you look cool in front of girls for having it...£30 actually seems ridiculously cheap...no wonder prices so easily escalate. Aftef all, the huge surplus of wealth held by certain parts of society has got to go on something...better this than luis vitton bags...or so i always thought!

fact is, the game's changed. It's not underground any more...awareness through youtube and the internet, the sheer quality of it, the lack of cool modern culture have all contributed to an explosion in this thing that for years was an esoteric obsession. The people paying these crazy prices haven't slowly evolved into obsessive collectors over years, patiently building collections, learning knowledge...it isn't coming from a personal obsession like old school collecting - it's an accessory, a lifestyle choice for the comfortable and it's about the indemand stuff, the cool stuff to have...image, probably djing and positional goods.

goes to prove - be careful what you wish for!l

 

I've met one of the bored middle aged men. He went to buy my mate's restored Lambretta Li150 and when he was being informed about oil mixtures, spark plug gaps, tyre pressures, etc replied "no, I won't ride it, it's going to be the centrepiece in my living room". The conversation then turned to soul music, when he found out I was a collector he asked me if I had 'anything nice looking' - not for playing but for framing and putting on the wall!

[Quinvy]

I've met one of the bored middle aged men. He went to buy my mate's restored Lambretta Li150 and when he was being informed about oil mixtures, spark plug gaps, tyre pressures, etc replied "no, I won't ride it, it's going to be the centrepiece in my living room". The conversation then turned to soul music, when he found out I was a collector he asked me if I had 'anything nice looking' - not for playing but for framing and putting on the wall!

That says it all!

[Quinvy]

But Phil, collectors, Anoraks, hunter/gatherers get a buzz from sifting through sales, in fact plenty are oblivious to whats being played on the decks,

having sales at venues is a must, it's an important part of the whole scene

I agree. Problem is, no bugger buys owt. You can have a box of fantastic records for sale, and most of the folk who look through it wouldn't have a clue what they were looking at.

 

I know because I've sat there for many hours trying to sell stuff.

 

This is a true story. Quite a few years ago now, I went down to the Prestatyn weekender. I couldn't get there until Saturday night but I wanted to look through some records that Tim Brown was selling for Martin Copell. I was worried that all the best stuff would be gone, but apart from one 45 that Sam had bought, I found three absolute bargains.

 

Now an awful lot of people had looked through those boxes. Yet there they were just waiting for me. My point being, if those records had been put up for sale on line, there's not a chance in hell that I would have got them.

 

Bloody Ted Massey would. 

[soul45s]

A year or 2 ago, I got a bundle of this 45, 2 demos, all the rest were issues. All M- and in pristine company sleeves.

I kept a demo, sold one for £50 and sold the issues at £40.

Its a great double sider, but its not a rare 45. Its just in vogue at the moment and the hype on auctions creates a buzz.

Its the same with many 45s getting re-played.

[KevH]

SWONS - a record becomes "popular" on the scene,a good dancer, fairly collectable,and no-one can agree on its merit.In fact it becomes a downright weight on the shoulders of NS.

Ok,not everyones cuppa,but whats the real problem with this record.? Value.? Rareity.? Why can't we have a tune that goes up in price,is filling floors,but wont break the bank.

The sooner no-one plays it and it slips to £20 the better.

Edited December 6, 2014 by KevH

[Orotava]

I baled out well before the end of this:

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/111542595300?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT