Everybody Was Kung Fu Dancing

[Winnie :-)]

More pertinent, how come none of us were dubbed badly when we were speaking to one another

Actually looking back at talking to some of the lads on gear, perhaps we were ;)

[Drewtg]

If it was Kung Fu orientated.. how come I never saw anyone jump from the floor the balcony at Wigan .. like Bruce Lee did  when he ended up in that tree..

 

Careful Vin, we may get someone who swears his mate did it...........

[Alan Bonthrone1]

Edit.I can, t work this quote/multi quote

Edited October 25, 2014 by Alan Bonthrone1

[Winnie :-)]

Edit.I can, t work this quote/multi quote

You just click on the reply with quote tag, then when it comes up, just write your reply underneath the box, the original post is contained in 

 

Multi quote. Hit the multi post tag on the posts you want to include, they'll be a box come up with however many quotes you're making, click on that, and then post your replies under the boxes as before. Hope this helps

[Guest manusf3a]

If it was Kung Fu orientated.. how come I never saw anyone jump from the floor the balcony at Wigan .. like Bruce Lee did  when he ended up in that tree..

They were to busy running across the houseroofs of Wigan jumping from one street to another as the end of terraces appeared,then off to maybe run across the surface of the sea before heading for some woods or a forest where they would bend back the tallest pine tree hang on then jump and using it like a catapult send themslelves over to lake windemere to do some more running on the suface of the water  before taking off last seen leaping from treetop to tree top across heavily wooded areas like some sort of giant human leemur hybrid finally the screeching at high decibal  level cry  of yeeeee aaaa ooooooh  yaaaaaaa eeee is heard fading away in the distance,they never made it inside the casino or if some ever did they didnt stay long for whaat good was a mere balcony when the sky and treelines of town and country awaited them outside.Some have even said that over time the traditional cries such as yeeeeeehaaa ha and ooooooo eeeeemeeesta sheeeftaaaaa had changed to that of Baaaa geeeeees baaaaaaageeeeeee ha ,This new cry was said to be favoured by those instructors who were part way through their training to teach the art art unsupervised, these Baaaaaa geeee yah Half masters vastly increased in numbers through the later seventies and early eighties until they eventualy had grown up the leg to the height of today  though some say the mast has truely been flown at its limit of half mastereness others say there is still room for the attaintment of at least a grade of half master two inches higher up the legs than present baaaaageeees have reached?Meditating on such philosophical issues ia a huge part of the art  which is not all just half mast trousers ,not taking  gear at all nighters   and  watching old bruce lee movies oneness is reached in many ways combining into well oneness from many?

Edited October 25, 2014 by manusf3a

[hullsoul]

More pertinent, how come none of us were dubbed badly when we were speaking to one another

Winnie

Some of the shit I've talked/heard at nighters it might as well have been in Chinese the sense it made

Cheers

Martyn

[Back Street Blue]

Don't think that as a general style there was any MA influence, reckon it was "Slone" dancing and the artists that set the template...got a photo of a young Jackie Wilson doing a rock 'n roll backdrop somewhere. As to the way that people interpreted the music individually,those who were into MA incorporated it into their "routine" as a trick just like others did with acrobatics. That said my experience was that the high kickers were actually in the minority.

[Missing Link]

And not a throwing star or set of nun-chucks in sight

Or baggy trousers!

[Guest]

I read that Alvin Cash and the Crawlers appeared at the Twisted Wheel all-nighters way back in the late 60's.

They did energetic dance routines that impressed the Wheelites.

So much so they started copying the moves and incorporating them into their dancing style.

Edited October 25, 2014 by Guest

[El Corol]

Ah Grasshopper you have learnt the first lesson: know your roots. Take the lindyhop, jitterbug, jive (and all the dances that preceeded them). Then take some of the twist, watusi, swim, monkey time, hitchike, hulabuloo, block, the 81 etc. Mix in a little Fred Astaire, Gene Kelly, Donald O' Connor, Nicholas Brothers etc. Then watch James Brown, Jackie Wilson and the Motown acts etc. Then copy the older kids at the club and put your twist on the moves and voila: your take on it all. Throw in a little martial arts? Maybe if so inclined, but the roots were already there grasshopper. Now go forth and spread the faith.

[Paul R]

You are wise Master.

[Guest manusf3a]

Don't think that as a general style there was any MA influence, reckon it was "Slone" dancing and the artists that set the template...got a photo of a young Jackie Wilson doing a rock 'n roll backdrop somewhere. As to the way that people interpreted the music individually,those who were into MA incorporated it into their "routine" as a trick just like others did with acrobatics. That said my experience was that the high kickers were actually in the minority.

High Kickers had to be in the minority mate if they werent the dancefloor would have looked  like the main show at the Moulin rouge or a bit like river dance on stage with them all kicking at once,just a thought "would'nt it have looked strange if instead of everyone clapping in unison at certain points in a record  they instead all did a high kick,or series of kicks fired off at once like a six gun salute,the six kickers such choons could of become known as!With those record that  have a gap of silence in them then start up again sometimes tricking those who dont know thw choon into thinking its finished to stop dancing just as it starts up again,there could also possibly have developed along with the possible development of a burst of high kicking in unison a scream in to fill the silence to accompany the burst of kicking where all would screech in traditional martial arts fashion along the lines of eeeeeeeyaaaaaaa,oooooooooooyaaaaaaaaa,   eeeeeeee yaaaaaameeeeeesta sheeeeeeftaaaaaaa!

Just imagine if someone was on the balcony at Wigan at its height and filme the four in the morning packed floor all of a sudden hitting the break in thejewels we got togetherness and high kicking and kung fu screeching in unison Sheeeeeeeeeeftaaaaaa Meeeeeeeeestaaaaa yeeeeeeeha the vast cacaphony of mixed screams and cries inspired by yip man and bruce,feet of fury furiously extended into sky in honour of bruce!

 

All the best mate hope you're well and still getting out and about.

Edited October 26, 2014 by manusf3a

[Guest Chris61]

 

Just imagine if someone was on the balcony at Wigan at its height and filme the four in the morning packed floor all of a sudden hitting the break in the jewels we got togetherness and high kicking and kung fu screeching in unison Sheeeeeeeeeeftaaaaaa Meeeeeeeeestaaaaa yeeeeeeeha

 

That one line is priceless, just ended up with Coffee all down the laptop.

 

Chris..

[Steve S 60]

"What's your style?"

"You can call it the art of dancing without dancing."

"The art of dancing without dancing? Show me some."

"Later."

[ZootSuit]

Ok let's do it.

 

In Masons documentary Fran (RIP) says that the guys were doing kung fu inspired kicks. In the new film it is intimated that kung fu was behind some of the dance moves.

In "Who shot Liberty Valence" there is a line that says "when the lie becomes the truth - print the truth". In countless film reviews, I am reading that the dance moves were/are kung fu inspired. 

Between us we should be able to arrive at the truth, or at least 'a truth' that we can agree on.

 

Firstly, this style of dancing pre-dates the arrival of kung fu to the UK. As a child of about eight or nine (1966) I saw guys dancing like this when my (Wheelie) sisters took me to a local club/coffee bar. I am sure there are guys on this forum who can confirm this. So let's look at alternatives:

 

1. the dance move was 'picked-up' from various travelling soul stars and glimpses of black Americans dancing on films and newsreels.

 

2. The move was a progression from the Teddy Boys dancing. Even I remember watching some of those guys kicking and back-dropping in the working men's clubs - whilst I sat under the table with my crisps and bottle of orange.

 

3. We actually invented it! N. Soul dance is basically free-form jazz dancing with a few basic steps, why could it not be that it just started with some bloke thinking "I need to kick to this break".

 

This has nothing to do with Wigan, etc. We are trying to find out how it started.

 

We need the older guys to chip in on this one. Come on fellas, what's your thoughts?

THIS RAMBLES A BIT BUT ITS TO SHOW IM QUALIFIED TO COMMENT ON THE ALLEGEGATION THAT NS MOVES ARE KUNG FOO ORIGINATED .

 

Anyway, I suppose at 65 and still going to events, I'm what you'd call ''one of the older guys'', I attended my first nighter at either Earls Barton or Kelmarsh, not sure which as I was always chemically enhanced and things are very hazy, which everyone used to attend after The George at Wilby, this was around 1967 at the tender age of 17.

 

I used to go on a regular basis, EVERY WEEKEND, with a lass called Jackie Stringer, older members from Bedford may remember her, anyway, we split and I was introduced to a lad from Yorkshire named John Horsler (Soulcarp on here) who was working at Vauxhall in Luton, he was a Twisted Wheel regular and my initial introduction to him was by non other than SS member Chiefy.

 

The intro were at a Thursday night disco in a pub, I was probably at the time one of biggest NS collectors in Luton and Johnno were a mean collector as well, anyway to cut a long story short his, Johnnos, style of dancing were like nothing we'd ever seen, BACK DROPS., HIGH KICKS, SPINS, BLACK DRIVING GLOVES AND LOUD SHARP CLAPS.

 

Took him to Wilby, f*ck, he needed all the floor for dancing, and me pretending Im not with him 'cause he was the only person dancing like it.

 

So in 1967 a bloke from Yorkshire, who had attended the Wheel regularly was dancing a style that SUPPOSEDLY originated at Wigan, what a load of crap, I only attended Wigan once in 1976, and I thought then..OK they're all having a go, BUT as they say on strictly come dancing, what a load of untidy dancers......arms, legs all over the place, they MAY have learned THEIR moves from Bruce Lee BUT the Twisted Wheel/Catacombs dancers didn't !!!!!!

Edited October 26, 2014 by ZootSuit

[Sean Hampsey]

I posted this on the 'Movie' thread t'other day:

 

Northern Soul dancing inspired by Kung Fu, total nonsense. People were doing the acrobatic stuff years before KF was even heard of in the UK. Certainly Teddy Boys and Rock & Rollers were doing backdrops many years before. On the soul side I saw Arthur Conley perform in '71 and his back dropping, footwork and spinning was absolutely awesome and from the early 70's Matchie and many others would dance in that style in my neck of the woods. Fancy footwork and a bit of athleticism always seemed to go hand in hand.

Sean

[ZootSuit]

I posted this on the 'Movie' thread t'other day:

 

Northern Soul dancing inspired by Kung Fu, total nonsense. People were doing the acrobatic stuff years before KF was even heard of in the UK. Certainly Teddy Boys and Rock & Rollers were doing backdrops many years before. On the soul side I saw Arthur Conley perform in '71 and his back dropping, footwork and spinning was absolutely awesome and from the early 70's Matchie and many others would dance in that style in my neck of the woods. Fancy footwork and a bit of athleticism always seemed to go hand in hand.

Sean

 

Now Matchy, he was a good dancer, but best dancerI ever watched and copied moves from was Frank 'Booper' when we used to go to a nighter in the cellar of a house in Bradford (1971?), these 2 alone, in their day would have made the Casino dancers look like the puppets from International Rescue, and the Catacombs dancers were in a league of their own. I'm not saying they, the Wigganites cant dance, BUT they look untidy, pity there are no U Tube clips of Cats/Torch/Mecca dancers to compare styles, it would prove you cant learn 'proper' dance moves from a Martial artist, and that NS dance styles were in vougue, and the dancers themselves better AND earlier than Wigan !!!!!!!!!!

 

And there were very good dancers used to come down to the Market Harbourgh niters from up North, Matchy for example.

Edited October 26, 2014 by ZootSuit

[macca]

Why would such a transformation have taken place by 76, from exciting Torch/Cats dancers like the much quoted Frank Booper to "messy arms and legs all over the place" kids then commanding the floor at Wigan? Surely it can't all be blamed on Kung Fu and Sandy Holden?

[Frankie Crocker]

This is a brilliant routine - it must be late 40s/early 50s. It's got spins, backdrops, floor work, splits and even a 'Breakdance style' one-knee spin. Incredible stuff!

 

Pure brilliance. Surely had to have been an influence on the Chicago artists of the 60's. Read recently that Purdey of the New Avengers had a high kicking style - could she have been an influence on the girls like Bruce was imitated by the boys???

[Frankie Crocker]

THIS RAMBLES A BIT BUT ITS TO SHOW IM QUALIFIED TO COMMENT ON THE ALLEGEGATION THAT NS MOVES ARE KUNG FOO ORIGINATED .

 

Anyway, I suppose at 65 and still going to events, I'm what you'd call ''one of the older guys'', I attended my first nighter at either Earls Barton or Kelmarsh, not sure which as I was always chemically enhanced and things are very hazy, which everyone used to attend after The George at Wilby, this was around 1967 at the tender age of 17.

 

I used to go on a regular basis, EVERY WEEKEND, with a lass called Jackie Stringer, older members from Bedford may remember her, anyway, we split and I was introduced to a lad from Yorkshire named John Horsler (Soulcarp on here) who was working at Vauxhall in Luton, he was a Twisted Wheel regular and my initial introduction to him was by non other than SS member Chiefy.

 

The intro were at a Thursday night disco in a pub, I was probably at the time one of biggest NS collectors in Luton and Johnno were a mean collector as well, anyway to cut a long story short his, Johnnos, style of dancing were like nothing we'd ever seen, BACK DROPS., HIGH KICKS, SPINS, BLACK DRIVING GLOVES AND LOUD SHARP CLAPS.

 

Took him to Wilby, f*ck, he needed all the floor for dancing, and me pretending Im not with him 'cause he was the only person dancing like it.

 

So in 1967 a bloke from Yorkshire, who had attended the Wheel regularly was dancing a style that SUPPOSEDLY originated at Wigan, what a load of crap, I only attended Wigan once in 1976, and I thought then..OK they're all having a go, BUT as they say on strictly come dancing, what a load of untidy dancers......arms, legs all over the place, they MAY have learned THEIR moves from Bruce Lee BUT the Twisted Wheel/Catacombs dancers didn't !!!!!!

Great post. I think the move under debate is the high kick. On this evidence, the high kick was in place well before Wigan. I think the general feeling is that some of the later Wigan dancers, especially the martial arts 'grasshoppers', took a bit of inspiration from Bruce Lee but the floorwork routines were well established at the Twisted Wheel.

[Guest manusf3a]

I think zoot suit is saying that all the acrobtics drops dives etc from earlier seemed to fit in a more seemless way in time with choons and that folk also did fast shuffling footwork in combination with there moves.,Wigan did seem a place where on the floor nearly all at times appeared to be having a go at the o;ympics leaping dropping etc,as well as  the ones who were good,plenty of crap and loads of crud.It also seemed to me that of the ones at wigan who were good at acrobatics apart  from a few again they could do the olymp[ics but their footwork was a sort of big step from side to side maybe in a bit of a circle is how it ,al ended  up looking all the time with every one of these steps looking like they were preparing to do their next tumblig bit whatever it was and this was what they were thinking of when doing those steps.As I said not all because some ,the few that is at the top could combine steps and jumps and flips 

 

While Wigan was on there was fantastic dancers going to other nighters such as samanthas ,cleethorpes etc where the style tended to differ being far more footwork orientated ,shuffling,sure a few acrobats hre r and there ,not as much as you would see at wigan. though. I n my opinion I think those places were better all round.Also as Paul says Matchie was off the chart and he was doing his thing long before the ascent of enter the casino and after!

Edited October 27, 2014 by manusf3a

[Guest manusf3a]

Now Matchy, he was a good dancer, but best dancerI ever watched and copied moves from was Frank 'Booper' when we used to go to a nighter in the cellar of a house in Bradford (1971?), these 2 alone, in their day would have made the Casino dancers look like the puppets from International Rescue, and the Catacombs dancers were in a league of their own. I'm not saying they, the Wigganites cant dance, BUT they look untidy, pity there are no U Tube clips of Cats/Torch/Mecca dancers to compare styles, it would prove you cant learn 'proper' dance moves from a Martial artist, and that NS dance styles were in vougue, and the dancers themselves better AND earlier than Wigan !!!!!!!!!!

 

And there were very good dancers used to come down to the Market Harbourgh niters from up North, Matchy for example.

Have a look at the vid the other Manus posted on this thread previous page,James Brown to there was a time phooking magic the Godfather of shuffle.What about him crossing the stage shuffling on one foot and when he stops strightends out his pants by brusdhing them down with his hands,then theres that signature move of his,he falls to one knee with the the mice in hand ,someone comes over and drapes a cape over his shoulders pure magical soul filled class r.i.p Godfather of soul i am sure God is  enjoying having you in heaxen.

Edited October 27, 2014 by manusf3a

[ZootSuit]

Winnie

Some of the shit I've talked/heard at nighters it might as well have been in Chinese the sense it made

Cheers

Martyn

Off topic BUT Spot on , you want to come out with mesen, Blueten, Kimbo and Manusr3a....nothings changed, I've driven home some nights wondering what the f#uck   :thumbup:  , and its a wonder God hasn't been down for a pick me up with JB up there  .

Edited October 27, 2014 by ZootSuit

[Back Street Blue]

High Kickers had to be in the minority mate if they werent the dancefloor would have looked  like the main show at the Moulin rouge or a bit like river dance on stage with them all kicking at once,just a thought "would'nt it have looked strange if instead of everyone clapping in unison at certain points in a record  they instead all did a high kick,or series of kicks fired off at once like a six gun salute,the six kickers such choons could of become known as!With those record that  have a gap of silence in them then start up again sometimes tricking those who dont know thw choon into thinking its finished to stop dancing just as it starts up again,there could also possibly have developed along with the possible development of a burst of high kicking in unison a scream in to fill the silence to accompany the burst of kicking where all would screech in traditional martial arts fashion along the lines of eeeeeeeyaaaaaaa,oooooooooooyaaaaaaaaa,   eeeeeeee yaaaaaameeeeeesta sheeeeeeftaaaaaaa!

Just imagine if someone was on the balcony at Wigan at its height and filme the four in the morning packed floor all of a sudden hitting the break in thejewels we got togetherness and high kicking and kung fu screeching in unison Sheeeeeeeeeeftaaaaaa Meeeeeeeeestaaaaa yeeeeeeeha the vast cacaphony of mixed screams and cries inspired by yip man and bruce,feet of fury furiously extended into sky in honour of bruce!

 

All the best mate hope you're well and still getting out and about.

I'm well thanks Manus and still doing my sweatiest b*stard impression at the odd event and even throw in the odd maia geri jodan mid stomp....still not ready to leave the temple though!!!

[dedji1955]

As well as folks doing drops to funky street I always remember them doing it to "You've got me dangling on a string" 

Tony Burns and Kev O'Marah where 2 local brilliant dancers who where dancing at the Casino and Beachcomber years before the Nighters started

Booper is without any doubt IMO the best dancer I have ever seen although Matchy always says Val is the best dancer he has seen

Both Matchy n Booper are still doing there stuff on the floor

[Back Street Blue]

...Used to see Buper at the revived Wheel before it moved from Whitworth Street and have seen Matchy at Davy's in Sheffield.

Steve Ceasar (spelling?) Also a legend as far as I'm concerned

[Ady Croasdell]

If it was Kung Fu orientated.. how come I never saw anyone jump from the floor the balcony at Wigan .. like Bruce Lee did when he ended up in that tree..

but someone did it at the Torch didn't they?

I remember our mob dancing in a circle at the Harborough all nighter and taking turns to do a solo in the middle, frequently followed by an affectionate kick up the arse

[ZootSuit]

but someone did it at the Torch didn't they?

I remember our mob dancing in a circle at the Harborough all nighter and taking turns to do a solo in the middle, frequently followed by an affectionate kick up the arse

 

I've been thinking about that what I wrote earlier, Manus re the balcony, in our younger days I'm bloody sure Chiefy, me and one or two others WOULD have attempted a forward drop offv there, I think a 3 foot wall were highest object we ever tried it off, word to the wise 45 years later my hands are now phooked, as yours will be , so, if you want to look after your hands the way forward is to only go back  .

 

I also, to a degree, go along with Mr Barge and say 'High Kicks' originated at Wigan, (as I have no recollection of seeing OR doing it me self) along with the floor walkers, the side steppers, the hoppers etc etc.

 

Prior to Wigan, as Manus says, it was all footwork with the Spins/Backdrops/Backdrop with heel touch/Jump and touch your toes and convert to a back drop and all flourishes were finished off with a spin.....................at Wigan it seems footwork went out the window and winning an Olympic Gold medal for the most gymnastics to one tune ruled....see the UT vids.

Edited October 27, 2014 by ZootSuit

[dedji1955]

Yeah but almost all the Youtube Vids of the Casino arose from the same programme so they aren't a true reflection

[Ady Croasdell]

My sources tell me it was Pete Tilsley from Stockport and he broke his arm. Sounds about right

[Kegsy]

My sources tell me it was Pete Tilsley from Stockport and he broke his arm. Sounds about right

 

Knowing Pete, he probably didn't mean to, but 

then again you never knew what Pete was gonna do next,

plus there was also the Brian Leer factor.

[Drewtg]

...Used to see Buper at the revived Wheel before it moved from Whitworth Street and have seen Matchy at Davy's in Sheffield.

Steve Ceasar (spelling?) Also a legend as far as I'm concerned

 

Caesar was the man. Never seen anyone better, made Sandy, et al look like Woody from Toy Story. Sorry guys but just my opinion.

[hullsoul]

THIS RAMBLES A BIT BUT ITS TO SHOW IM QUALIFIED TO COMMENT ON THE ALLEGEGATION THAT NS MOVES ARE KUNG FOO ORIGINATED .

 

Anyway, I suppose at 65 and still going to events, I'm what you'd call ''one of the older guys'', I attended my first nighter at either Earls Barton or Kelmarsh, not sure which as I was always chemically enhanced and things are very hazy, which everyone used to attend after The George at Wilby, this was around 1967 at the tender age of 17.

 

I used to go on a regular basis, EVERY WEEKEND, with a lass called Jackie Stringer, older members from Bedford may remember her, anyway, we split and I was introduced to a lad from Yorkshire named John Horsler (Soulcarp on here) who was working at Vauxhall in Luton, he was a Twisted Wheel regular and my initial introduction to him was by non other than SS member Chiefy.

 

The intro were at a Thursday night disco in a pub, I was probably at the time one of biggest NS collectors in Luton and Johnno were a mean collector as well, anyway to cut a long story short his, Johnnos, style of dancing were like nothing we'd ever seen, BACK DROPS., HIGH KICKS, SPINS, BLACK DRIVING GLOVES AND LOUD SHARP CLAPS.

 

Took him to Wilby, f*ck, he needed all the floor for dancing, and me pretending Im not with him 'cause he was the only person dancing like it.

 

So in 1967 a bloke from Yorkshire, who had attended the Wheel regularly was dancing a style that SUPPOSEDLY originated at Wigan, what a load of crap, I only attended Wigan once in 1976, and I thought then..OK they're all having a go, BUT as they say on strictly come dancing, what a load of untidy dancers......arms, legs all over the place, they MAY have learned THEIR moves from Bruce Lee BUT the Twisted Wheel/Catacombs dancers didn't !!!!!!

Can't wait to see John & ask him where is black driving glove is

Cheers

Martyn

[Guest manusf3a]

but someone did it at the Torch didn't they?

I remember our mob dancing in a circle at the Harborough all nighter and taking turns to do a solo in the middle, frequently followed by an affectionate kick up the arse

Wasnt that Pete Tilsey who landed in a back drop breaking his wrist but got up and started dancing?

[Guest manusf3a]

Wasnt that Pete Tilsey from Manchester  way who landed in a back drop breaking his wrist but got up and started dancing? got caslled batman for some time after,some say he heard one his favourite records and went for it taking the quickest way to the dance floor. I  remember Passy from Corby who knew him well saying the record was Sam and Kitty but cant say how accurate that bit was.Last time saw Pete Tilsey he was with Brian Lester and a crew from Manchester round my mate George McKimmie r.i.p's house in Corby ;later seventies before and after a st Ives all nighte rthe whole crew were mad but in a good caps and pill fuelled way

 

ps .Like Kegsy said earlier from what I heard it may not have been intentional and the hearing the record bit just added to the tale and he may of come downaccidentaly but he did tuen it in to a back drop and continued to dance regardless of injury,

Edited October 27, 2014 by manusf3a

[MrsWoodsrules]

Wasn't it more to do with the influence of likes of James Brown/Jackie Wilson or even going back further the likes of Cab Calloway & The Cotton Club or the black street dancers your see from 20's & 30's in the depressed U.S.A.?

I suspect that's closer to the truth & the dancing probably took a life of it's own, but I've always assumed thats where the acrobatic breaks came from but I don't know for sure.

[ZootSuit]

Wasnt that Pete Tilsey who landed in a back drop breaking his wrist but got up and started dancing?

Mr.Tilsey?, aint that the geezer from Coronation street

Edited October 27, 2014 by ZootSuit

[Guest manusf3a]

Mr.Tilsey?, aint that the geezer from Coronation street

Bet you would of known him Paul he was with the manchester firm that used to go harboro nighter  and hang around with the Corby lads.

[Alan Bonthrone1]

Edit.

Edited October 28, 2014 by Alan Bonthrone1

[ZootSuit]

Can't wait to see John & ask him where is black driving glove is

Cheers

Martyn

 

They were tatty in 1967

[ZootSuit]

Bet you would of known him Paul he was with the manchester firm that used to go harboro nighter  and hang around with the Corby lads.

 

Could have known him, hazy days, but everybody gave the Corby lads a lot of space  , they hogged the front of the stage and us lesser mortals who were still learning and practicing our steps hung around at back watching the dancers to pick up moves, about the only  faces I remember are peeps like Blosh, Swish, Matchy  and Mick and Pete Burgess.

[Tony dam]

Some dancers use Martial art moves in their dancing and it shows, but these must have been incorperated in the style after the influence of Movies like "Enter the dragon" (1973 ). I guess  alot of kids took up Martial arts and found the NS scene shortly after that.

I should imagine the earlier NS scene was inspired by alot of other styles , especially Jazz.(as mentioned earlier )

I've seen some early footage (on TV ) from the States of  young  Black kids dancing on street corners, busking for money (1950 's). Those moves seem more relevent than alot of other dance styles. 

The various NS dance styles out there are a mixture of many types of dance moves , I guess we adopt the style that best suits our own physical capabilities.

 

Mines down to a shuffle now !  

That is the case for me and my mates we where in to Bruce Lee and attended shotakan Karate lessons   { i still do} i was also doing Jujitsu ,Judo Aikido kickboxing and  Kickjutsu at the first mixed martial arts club. Kodakan

at that time  and we definitely put the kicks and splits in to our dance routines Northern Soul and martial arts definitely went together for us  .and to this day my mate does Judo and i do Taekwondo and Karate as well as Boxing training at 54 yrs old with both hips resurfaced i feel better than ever ..  

[Frankie Crocker]

In twenty years time, the Northern Soul film actors will be crediting Kung Fu Panda as a major influence. At one point in the film, someone says 'he dances like a teapot' or words to that effect, a line if I'm not mistaken appeared right here on Soul Source, but can't remember the wag responsible, maybe Nev, Byrney, Chalkie dunno, one of the regulars... Good to see that topical debate of dance styles on Soul Source has helped the scriptwriters of the greatest ever Northern Soul film to date keep up with the cutting-edge dance moves of the modern era...

[Soulcarp]

My sources tell me it was Pete Tilsley from Stockport and he broke his arm. Sounds about right

Yes it was pete who broke is arm

[Soulcarp]

They were tatty in 1967

They smelt of brutt aftershave 

[Steve S 60]

Will future historians look back and ponder whether the ancient Chinese martial art of Kung Fu influenced the Northern Soul dance moves?  Alternatively, will they consider the Brazilian martial art of Capoeira, with its origins amongst the Black African slaves who disguised it as dancing, as any form of fight training was banned by their masters?  Did the young Soul Boys hone their fighting skills on the dance floor, preparing themselves for the inevitable encounters with the local divvies and grebos?  Who could land a punch on a constantly spinning, back dropping, swallow diving target, before the high kick to the opponents chin was delivered, followed by a deafening hand clap?

[ZootSuit]

Winnie

Some of the shit I've talked/heard at nighters it might as well have been in Chinese the sense it made

Cheers

Martyn

Just revisited this thread, this and other posts have got me wetting me sen, were at last Life Lines and yeah some of the verbal...........

Edited May 29, 2015 by ZootSuit

[maslar]

They smelt of brutt aftershave 

 

Does anyone still wear Brut? I haven't since i was about 17/18 but it still seems popular on the shop shelves at least. Who's buying it?

[ZootSuit]

Does anyone still wear Brut? I haven't since i was about 17/18 but it still seems popular on the shop shelves at least. Who's buying it?

Brutes........probably

[Wiggyflat]

In twenty years time, the Northern Soul film actors will be crediting Kung Fu Panda as a major influence. At one point in the film, someone says 'he dances like a teapot' or words to that effect, a line if I'm not mistaken appeared right here on Soul Source, but can't remember the wag responsible, maybe Nev, Byrney, Chalkie dunno, one of the regulars... Good to see that topical debate of dance styles on Soul Source has helped the scriptwriters of the greatest ever Northern Soul film to date keep up with the cutting-edge dance moves of the modern era...

The top teapot dancer was Johnny Timlin...this is from the eighties/nineties though although I wouldn't be suprised if that was the inspiration as the other character who dies in the car crash was a a complete rip off of Sean Adams...complete with van.