Guest turntableterra Posted December 23, 2014 Posted December 23, 2014 it used to be rare, you can hear almost monthly even over here. still a good record though
Mrtag Posted December 23, 2014 Posted December 23, 2014 (edited) Another copy on Evilbay Right Now!! They seem to be coming out of the woodwork now as the price has gone through the roof!! Edited December 23, 2014 by mrtag
Jim G Posted December 23, 2014 Author Posted December 23, 2014 Another copy on Evilbay Right Now!! They seem to be coming out of the woodwork now has the price has gone through the roof!! Have some been found? Same thing with Towanda Barnes, 4 from same seller over three weeks
NEV Posted December 23, 2014 Posted December 23, 2014 There are some very prolific and efficient record diggers out there in the Usa now,so if things are high in price, you can bet your life they are being well and truly hunted down! Amazing to see so many big ticket items turning up that were once thought to be so rare. You pay your money and take your chances or you go find em yourself 3
Dave Pinch Posted December 23, 2014 Posted December 23, 2014 (edited) Another Mint copy on Ebay $1,825 with 6 days to go https://www.ebay.com/itm/70s-Soul-45-Hamilton-Movement-Shes-Gone-Look-Out-NM-mp3/381096830128?_trksid=p2045573.c100034.m2102&_trkparms=aid%3D555012%26algo%3DPW.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20131003150253%26meid%3D83a408821f6b4d72b0553fd6134b15dd%26pid%3D100034%26prg%3D20131003150253%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D8%26mehot%3Dpp%26sd%3D191441870165 looks like he`s got some stock.....be interesting to see how many....he may have one... he may have a few time will tell Edited December 23, 2014 by dave pinch
Jordirip Posted December 23, 2014 Posted December 23, 2014 looks like he`s got some stock.....be interesting to see how many What indicates that he's got some stock Dave?
Dave Pinch Posted December 23, 2014 Posted December 23, 2014 45soulman has just sold 2 auction copies of the towanda barnes A& M demo....then another as a buy it now 2 weeks ago.....see if he has anymore
Dave Pinch Posted December 23, 2014 Posted December 23, 2014 What indicates that he's got some stock Dave? i think its the 3rd one he`s had overall....doesnt exactly mean he`s got stock, he may not have anymore..time will tell...i think they have 4 on the label so theres got to be stock somewhere on this 45...big place the usa tho
NEV Posted December 23, 2014 Posted December 23, 2014 i think its the 3rd one he`s had overall....doesnt exactly mean he`s got stock, he may not have anymore..time will tell...i think they have 4 on the label so theres got to be stock somewhere on this 45...big place the usa tho It's two copies and two only, from the horses mouth... The third copy could be mistaken as the Jason Yoder copy out of Indiana, not to be confused with Jason Perlmutter out of Carolina? 1
Dave Pinch Posted December 24, 2014 Posted December 24, 2014 It's two copies and two only, from the horses mouth... The third copy could be mistaken as the Jason Yoder copy out of Indiana, not to be confused with Jason Perlmutter out of Carolina? i knew i get you biting..took longer than i thought lol....its only coz i want you to sell me your beat up copy cheap..... and to be fair i was hoping he may have a few and the price would come down to my level...good to see you on sunday nev
Dave Pinch Posted December 24, 2014 Posted December 24, 2014 (edited) ooh dont forget theres been manships and karls copies since carolina`s 1st copy..and someone mentioned they`d got one for £800..........christ it is common and maybe £800 its rarity value lol you gonna sell it me yet Edited December 24, 2014 by dave pinch
Guest Posted December 24, 2014 Posted December 24, 2014 There's no stock of that h. Movement in the hands of the temporary ebay seller.
NEV Posted December 24, 2014 Posted December 24, 2014 ooh dont forget theres been manships and karls copies since carolina`s 1st copy..and someone mentioned they`d got one for £800..........christ it is common and maybe £800 its rarity value lol you gonna sell it me yet It's so common,there's only you who hasn't got one 2
Dave Pinch Posted December 24, 2014 Posted December 24, 2014 It's so common,there's only you who hasn't got one doh
Dave Pinch Posted December 24, 2014 Posted December 24, 2014 There's no stock of that h. Movement in the hands of the temporary ebay seller. dont understand that post henning..weather he has some or not he`s got sense and will keep schtum.. no one in the right mind would admit to having copies of an expensive record...a furniture dealer or a bookseller not armed with the knowledge..but an experienced rare soul dealer will tell NO ONE
Prophonics 2029 Posted December 24, 2014 Posted December 24, 2014 Watch "THE HAMILTON MOVEMENT - She's Gone - 1976" on YouTube - THE HAMILTON MOVEMENT - She's Gone - 1976: It's a dancers record...not a middleaged man's record sat at home tapping his foot too the beat type of tune. 3
Prophonics 2029 Posted December 24, 2014 Posted December 24, 2014 Like Harold Melvin Get Out... Grim sad lyrics at home but played in a club, totally different thing.
Mellorful Posted December 24, 2014 Posted December 24, 2014 I know we all branch off with different tastes, but i find it mind boggling that people on a soul forum could call this record crap. I thought it would be one of the undisputables. Forget northern soul and all the sub-genres, forget soul even.... just as a piece of music, a piece of pop music even, it's just a masterpiece isn't it? I dont like the modern sound to the tune as a NS dancer, but I agree its not crap. I would enjoy listening to this when on a long motorway drive cos its relaxing. Just seen a bootleg release of this so will that start to affect the price of an OVO........ Nahhhhh Ten years time when many collectors are mostly retired then the price will fall or hope the Japanese still want to collect.
Mal C Posted December 24, 2014 Posted December 24, 2014 other than the names mentioned above, some of which I'm aware of, I know of 4 other people who have this one.. lets face it they would have done a run of 500 wouldn't they?
Dave Pinch Posted December 25, 2014 Posted December 25, 2014 (edited) other than the names mentioned above, some of which I'm aware of, I know of 4 other people who have this one.. lets face it they would have done a run of 500 wouldn't they? of course they would have mal Edited December 25, 2014 by dave pinch
Dave Pinch Posted December 25, 2014 Posted December 25, 2014 If thats what u think thats fine mate. its not so much what i think....just having experienced dealers/sellers in the uk and usa over the years..carolinasoul may not have anymore..but even if he had he wouldnt tell..he`ll play the game 2
Wiganer1 Posted December 25, 2014 Posted December 25, 2014 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Hamilton-Movement-She-039-s-Gone-Northern-Soul-Vinyl-45-/181623947037?&_trksid=p2056016.l4276 oh dear ..should bring the price down
Guest Posted December 25, 2014 Posted December 25, 2014 its not so much what i think....just having experienced dealers/sellers in the uk and usa over the years..carolinasoul may not have anymore..but even if he had he wouldnt tell..he`ll play the game As i said dave, thats fine for me if you think everybody does it. for myself, i wouldn't play this game. Soul is love and passion.
Wiganer1 Posted December 25, 2014 Posted December 25, 2014 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/The-Hamilton-Movement-Shes-Gone-Northern-Soul-Vinyl-45-Listen-/131387748270?pt=UK_Records&hash=item1e9751efae oh dear have u seen this what next joseph webster???
Dave Pinch Posted December 26, 2014 Posted December 26, 2014 As i said dave, thats fine for me if you think everybody does it. for myself, i wouldn't play this game. Soul is love and passion. me too..i`d be giving copies to friends locally and selling some real cheap elsewhere..i`m not a dealer... i wish they would all follow the likes of dave thorleys lead when he gets multiple copies like he`s done recently... most are not like that tho..
Dave Pinch Posted December 26, 2014 Posted December 26, 2014 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/The-Hamilton-Movement-Shes-Gone-Northern-Soul-Vinyl-45-Listen-/131387748270?pt=UK_Records&hash=item1e9751efae oh dear have u seen this what next joseph webster??? ffs
NEV Posted December 26, 2014 Posted December 26, 2014 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/The-Hamilton-Movement-Shes-Gone-Northern-Soul-Vinyl-45-Listen-/131387748270?pt=UK_Records&hash=item1e9751efae oh dear have u seen this what next joseph webster??? Boots or re-issues of big records are nothing new and going off the eBay sale of the original ,have no effect on the price of originals . .examples ...Eddie Parker ,constellations ,Hopkins Bros ,Sag war fare ! Pretty sure Hamilton movement has been played out in big rooms for yrs on a goldmine 7 ? 1
Cunnie Posted December 26, 2014 Posted December 26, 2014 Boots or re-issues of big records are nothing new and going off the eBay sale of the original ,have no effect on the price of originals . .examples ...Eddie Parker ,constellations ,Hopkins Bros ,Sag war fare ! Pretty sure Hamilton movement has been played out in big rooms for yrs on a goldmine 7 ? Exactly Nev. Manships 2 most expensive auction items ever have both been booted countless times but has this had any effect on the prices of the originals? Not one bit. Can't understand why the person who did these Hamilton Movement bootlegs & several others got the label size wrong as they might have fooled a few from a distance in the local fleapit dark village hall Soul night. Also folks know who plays these faux things & who play the real thing 1
Popular Post pow wow mik Posted December 27, 2014 Popular Post Posted December 27, 2014 If everyone who knows anything knows who's playing boots, then doesn't it defeat the purpose of playing them? Or is the intention to impress the narrow band of audience who have somehow achieved the unenviable state of thinking that old vinyl is cool while not actually knowing what it is? it's got to count as one of the most bizarre things to do. Akin to walking round town in a pilot's uniform to make people who dont care think that you're a pilot. 6
Guest briktf Posted December 28, 2014 Posted December 28, 2014 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Hamilton-Movement-She-039-s-Gone-Northern-Soul-Vinyl-45-/181623947037?&_trksid=p2056016.l4276 oh dear ..should bring the price down How legit we're the other reissues of this on soul beat and soul mafia?
NEV Posted December 28, 2014 Posted December 28, 2014 How legit we're the other reissues of this on soul beat and soul mafia? Probably like most.original soul rarities . Based on bluff and ignorance... But I stand to be proved wrong?
Dave Pinch Posted December 29, 2014 Posted December 29, 2014 at least the price was kinda realistic on this one
Carty Posted December 29, 2014 Posted December 29, 2014 Watch "THE HAMILTON MOVEMENT - She's Gone - 1976" on YouTube - THE HAMILTON MOVEMENT - She's Gone - 1976: It's a dancers record...not a middleaged man's record sat at home tapping his foot too the beat type of tune. On the contrary prophonics , this middle aged man has been sat at home tapping his foot to this tune at least half a dozen times today .Magical feelgood sound . 1
Carty Posted December 29, 2014 Posted December 29, 2014 And i am playing the boot , already had my six quids worth .
NEV Posted December 30, 2014 Posted December 30, 2014 And i am playing the boot , already had my six quids worth . At least you owned up to feeding the man ,who makes a dishonest living out of making illegal ,unlicensed copies of genuine records ,that do have a copyright which states it is illegal to do so . Its a bit like buying the laptop of the druggie ,who stole it ,to pay for his habit,from someone who worked hard to pay full price from a shop ! I remember seeing a newspaper article about someone who went to court for recieving stolen goods. He got a bigger fine than the guy who stole the goods and the judge told him ...as long as there are people like you to sell to ,he will continue to bring misery to honest ,hard working people! One last thing ....pow wow mick touched on the subject ,so what does it feel like when the parcel arrives and you open it to reveal a rather odd looking copy of a record ...do you marvel at it ,does it make you go "wow" and when you put the needle on it ,does it sound amazing because it plays all the way through with only a few clicks ,but it plays and doesnt skip or jump ! 2
Carty Posted December 30, 2014 Posted December 30, 2014 At least you owned up to feeding the man ,who makes a dishonest living out of making illegal ,unlicensed copies of genuine records ,that do have a copyright which states it is illegal to do so . Its a bit like buying the laptop of the druggie ,who stole it ,to pay for his habit,from someone who worked hard to pay full price from a shop ! I remember seeing a newspaper article about someone who went to court for recieving stolen goods. He got a bigger fine than the guy who stole the goods and the judge told him ...as long as there are people like you to sell to ,he will continue to bring misery to honest ,hard working people! One last thing ....pow wow mick touched on the subject ,so what does it feel like when the parcel arrives and you open it to reveal a rather odd looking copy of a record ...do you marvel at it ,does it make you go "wow" and when you put the needle on it ,does it sound amazing because it plays all the way through with only a few clicks ,but it plays and doesnt skip or jump ! Bless
NEV Posted December 30, 2014 Posted December 30, 2014 Bless No ..Bless you ,for thinking that it feels the same as me .. buying a record, getting all excited awaiting it's arrival ..and even more excited when you open the package and then even more excited when you give it a careful wipe before placing it oh so careful on the turntable .... Then finally realising ," ive just spent £6.99 ,but i could have nicked the soundfile from youtube for f**k all and still got the same feeling " Doh ! P.s ,i did ask ,but you decided to try and belittle me with your one word answer ,so i tried to imagine for myself how it feels 2
Ncfc Posted December 30, 2014 Posted December 30, 2014 (edited) Wonder what happened to the copy that sold in the Record Corner in Balham back in the 80s. Edited December 30, 2014 by NCFC
Carty Posted December 30, 2014 Posted December 30, 2014 No ..Bless you ,for thinking that it feels the same as me .. buying a record, getting all excited awaiting it's arrival ..and even more excited when you open the package and then even more excited when you give it a careful wipe before placing it oh so careful on the turntable .... Then finally realising ," ive just spent £6.99 ,but i could have nicked the soundfile from youtube for f**k all and still got the same feeling " Doh ! P.s ,i did ask ,but you decided to try and belittle me with your one word answer ,so i tried to imagine for myself how it feels You got me there Nev .
Carty Posted December 30, 2014 Posted December 30, 2014 Just played it again, sounds even better knowing someone objects to me listening to it ! a kind of illicit thrill! love it .
Pete S Posted December 30, 2014 Posted December 30, 2014 Just played it again, sounds even better knowing someone objects to me listening to it ! a kind of illicit thrill! love it . Nobody would be objecting to you playing it if it was a £10 record. People often don't understand that mere mortals cannot afford to pay three weeks wages for a record that they could buy for a fiver, and don't give me that copyright and robbing the artists stuff, how much money do the Hamilton Movement receive from each £1000+ sale of their record? Er, nothing...same as they don't get anything from the £5 bootleg either. 1
Ncfc Posted December 30, 2014 Posted December 30, 2014 (edited) Just played it again, sounds even better knowing someone objects to me listening to it ! a kind of illicit thrill! love it . Bet deep down though you wish it was an original copy. Edited December 30, 2014 by NCFC
Dave Fleming Posted December 30, 2014 Posted December 30, 2014 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/The-Hamilton-Movement-Shes-Gone-Northern-Soul-Vinyl-45-Listen-/131387748270?pt=UK_Records&hash=item1e9751efae oh dear have u seen this what next joseph webster??? Maybe when he can find a decent scan of JW somewhere to the Internet.... :-)
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