jocko Posted October 14, 2014 Posted October 14, 2014 (edited) I suppose its too much to hope that you are on a train heading east from Moscow to Siberia whereyour mobile wont work for a week or so.Well since I am almost home to my beloved Edinburgh after a very short visit to my beloved London it pleases me immensely not to grant you your wish.Although mobile doesn't work particularly well either at my workplace or my house may be enough to get you slightly excited,always dangerous at your age, however here in the real world we have things called tablets and computers when phone doesn't work.To be honest, based on Milliband thread I could go away for a month and nothing new would have been said, although Mr Clangers recent impersonation of William Burroughs has been interesting. Edited October 14, 2014 by jocko
Pete S Posted October 15, 2014 Posted October 15, 2014 Rob I counted and I have 98 original Motown backing tracks, you must have hundreds because only about 5 or 6 of yours appear in the lot I've got (from the deleted US Motown karaoke set), and no doubt even those are alternative versions. I can't remember the last time I enjoyed a Soul Source topic so much. Seriously, thanks for sharing these gems. 2
Rob Moss Posted October 15, 2014 Posted October 15, 2014 could someone post up the track listing for this please ? Track listing; Headline news Hole in the wall Don't say maybe baby Unknown Unknown When you came into my life Everybody's got some soul I have faith in you Holding hands
Guest Posted October 15, 2014 Posted October 15, 2014 Does anyone know the story behind this track, "Let's Do The Duck"...it appeared on the "Sound Of The Grapevine" LP many years ago...is there an acetate or was it off a tape?
Guest trickbag Posted October 15, 2014 Posted October 15, 2014 mark freemans northern soul youtube page maybe mark could answer your question Flynny. ricky.
Ian Dewhirst Posted October 15, 2014 Posted October 15, 2014 Talk about coincidences. I've been going through masters all-day for a forthcoming huge box set. The collection kicks off with Darrell Banks "Open The Door To Your Heart" and I got sent the master and blow me if it's not the instrumental! I've never heard this before but I presume it's popped up sometime....? Ian D 2
Guest Rubber Soul Posted October 15, 2014 Posted October 15, 2014 Rob Moss, thanks for posting these amazing instrumentals! They make you really appreciate the superb musicianship of the players on these Detroit masterpieces. Those guys played with attitude!!!
Pete S Posted October 15, 2014 Posted October 15, 2014 Talk about coincidences. I've been going through masters all-day for a forthcoming huge box set. The collection kicks off with Darrell Banks "Open The Door To Your Heart" and I got sent the master and blow me if it's not the instrumental! I've never heard this before but I presume it's popped up sometime....? Ian D I don't think it has. The only Darrell Banks backing track I've heard is Somebody Somewhere Needs You.
Guest Rubber Soul Posted October 15, 2014 Posted October 15, 2014 This is just awesome. I am struggling to come to terms with the fact that so many of these exist and have been kept so quiet. Surely stuff of this quality deserves a commercial release? I totally agree with you - deserves a release - or several!! When it comes to proper releases of the Funk Brothers´ work on CD, I can think of only two, both released in 2004 (bloody hell, that´s ten years ago!) - the Deluxe Edition (2 CD) of the soundtrack to "Standing In The Shadows Of Motown" (Hip-O) and "The Best Of The Funk Brothers 20th Century Masters The Millennium Collection" (Motown). But, as can clearly be seen above, there´s plenty more where that came from... It would truly be fantastic if the creative minds at Ace/Kent would release a CD, or maybe a whole series... Keith Hughes, Mick Patrick, Tony Rounce and company are true heroes for their work with the Ace Motown releases, surely this would be a mouth-watering project. And, to top it all off, maybe even some unreleased stuff on 45, like Kent does with their Pied Piper project. Sorry, now I get carried away... But still, one is allowed to dream.........
Pete S Posted October 15, 2014 Posted October 15, 2014 I totally agree with you - deserves a release - or several!! When it comes to proper releases of the Funk Brothers´ work on CD, I can think of only two, both released in 2004 (bloody hell, that´s ten years ago!) - the Deluxe Edition (2 CD) of the soundtrack to "Standing In The Shadows Of Motown" (Hip-O) and "The Best Of The Funk Brothers 20th Century Masters The Millennium Collection" (Motown). But, as can clearly be seen above, there´s plenty more where that came from... It would truly be fantastic if the creative minds at Ace/Kent would release a CD, or maybe a whole series... Keith Hughes, Mick Patrick, Tony Rounce and company are true heroes for their work with the Ace Motown releases, surely this would be a mouth-watering project. And, to top it all off, maybe even some unreleased stuff on 45, like Kent does with their Pied Piper project. Sorry, now I get carried away... But still, one is allowed to dream......... Mr. Soul - over 100 Funk Bros tracks were released in the 90's, they came out as Karaoke discs sold via Walmart. They use the original backing tracks of everything from Shop Around onwards. Not only that, but a second set just featured the a capella vocals to all of them as well. Story goes that they were withdrawn from sale after a short while. I think I still have all of these if you or anyone else wants them. Have a listen to this - OH MY GOD https://www.dailymotion.com/video/xiet6v_four-tops-ask-the-lonely-acapella_music 2
Soulfinger Posted October 15, 2014 Posted October 15, 2014 Mr. Soul - over 100 Funk Bros tracks were released in the 90's, they came out as Karaoke discs sold via Walmart. They use the original backing tracks of everything from Shop Around onwards. Not only that, but a second set just featured the a capella vocals to all of them as well. Story goes that they were withdrawn from sale after a short while. I think I still have all of these if you or anyone else wants them. Have a listen to this - OH MY GOD I agree Pete - those were fantastic. I bought some of the CDs from the states.....and then got the rest from you. The Isley's Take me in Your Arms Inst was the killer version for me. The thing about the ones Rob has is that they are of much less well known tracks.
Pete S Posted October 15, 2014 Posted October 15, 2014 Yeah I know mate, absolutely, thats why I've enjoyed them so much, he's posted stuff I never knew existed before yesterday. But was just saying, if you need to hear the Funk Bros at their best, those karaoke cd's are a great place to start 1
Ian Dewhirst Posted October 15, 2014 Posted October 15, 2014 I don't think it has. The only Darrell Banks backing track I've heard is Somebody Somewhere Needs You. Blimey, you're right. I just did a search and nothing came up. I've just discovered the never-before-heard instrumental of "Open The Door To Your Heart" goddammit! Not bad for a rainy Wednesday evening ay? Ian D 3
Guest Rubber Soul Posted October 15, 2014 Posted October 15, 2014 Mr. Soul - over 100 Funk Bros tracks were released in the 90's, they came out as Karaoke discs sold via Walmart. They use the original backing tracks of everything from Shop Around onwards. Not only that, but a second set just featured the a capella vocals to all of them as well. Story goes that they were withdrawn from sale after a short while. I think I still have all of these if you or anyone else wants them. Have a listen to this - OH MY GOD https://www.dailymotion.com/video/xiet6v_four-tops-ask-the-lonely-acapella_music Thanks!!! Amazing stuff you posted! Never knew about those karaoke discs... Must check out! But still, would be great if these tracks were given the Ace treatment - superb mastering, liner notes resembling a book, beautiful label scans and proper payment to all surviving people involved... Plus the usual amount of unreleased tracks...
Guest Rubber Soul Posted October 15, 2014 Posted October 15, 2014 I mean "unreleased" as in "never before released - with or without vocals" - like some of the tracks on the Kent Billy Butler Okeh CD...
Pete S Posted October 15, 2014 Posted October 15, 2014 Blimey, you're right. I just did a search and nothing came up. I've just discovered the never-before-heard instrumental of "Open The Door To Your Heart" goddammit! Not bad for a rainy Wednesday evening ay? Ian D All you need now is to find the instrumental of Our Love Is In The Pocket and that could be one of the bests insts ever 1
Guest Rubber Soul Posted October 15, 2014 Posted October 15, 2014 All you need now is to find the instrumental of Our Love Is In The Pocket and that could be one of the bests insts ever I´ve got a UK Kool Kat 45 released in 1987 with that track on the B-side - Detroit Strings - In The Pocket, along with Willie Jones´ version of "My Baby Ain´t No Plaything". On the A-side is Eric & The Vikings - Hurting (same backing track as Jimmy "Soul" Clark - Sweet Darlin´).
Pete S Posted October 15, 2014 Posted October 15, 2014 I´ve got a UK Kool Kat 45 released in 1987 with that track on the B-side - Detroit Strings - In The Pocket, along with Willie Jones´ version of "My Baby Ain´t No Plaything". On the A-side is Eric & The Vikings - Hurting (same backing track as Jimmy "Soul" Clark - Sweet Darlin´). Yes that is a very mysterious track, it sounds a lot like Our Love but isn't, it's just got elements of it in there...Hitsville Chalky on here made a great vocal to that by Pat Lewis
kevinsoulman Posted October 15, 2014 Posted October 15, 2014 Mr. Soul - over 100 Funk Bros tracks were released in the 90's, they came out as Karaoke discs sold via Walmart. They use the original backing tracks of everything from Shop Around onwards. Not only that, but a second set just featured the a capella vocals to all of them as well. Story goes that they were withdrawn from sale after a short while. I think I still have all of these if you or anyone else wants them. Have a listen to this - OH MY GOD https://www.dailymotion.com/video/xiet6v_four-tops-ask-the-lonely-acapella_music THIS IS JUST THE MOST AWSOME MOTOWN TRACK EVER. KEV 1
Guest Rubber Soul Posted October 15, 2014 Posted October 15, 2014 Yes that is a very mysterious track, it sounds a lot like Our Love but isn't, it's just got elements of it in there...Hitsville Chalky on here made a great vocal to that by Pat Lewis OK. Once again, never knew. Must check the Pat Lewis´ version, should be on Youtube?? But still, to my ears, that´s a great Detroit instrumental - totally storming!!! Btw, Levi Stubbs´ singing on "Just Ask The Lonely" is just beyond words (when you hear the a cappella, it just blows you away)... That man could outsing most people on this planet! Also great a cappellas on the DVD:s released some years ago by Reelin´ In The Years (Universal) - Four Tops, Marvin Gaye, Temptations, Smokey Robinson & The Miracles, Supremes... But then again - loads more on the karaoke discs you previously mentioned... Still think the Funk Brothers are worthy of proper, kosher, legit, respectable releases of the best quality (best possible sound, liner notes, 100% unissued tracks, pictures, royalties paid etc)!
Ian Dewhirst Posted October 15, 2014 Posted October 15, 2014 All you need now is to find the instrumental of Our Love Is In The Pocket and that could be one of the bests insts ever Well the fact that the current repertoire owners sent a previously unheard instrumental of such a legendary classic indicates that they must have the original master tapes. I'll drop 'em a line tomorrow and see what other surprises they could be holding and I'll bet a pound to a penny they have an instrumental of "Our Love Is In The Pocket". Any other Revilot contenders I can pitch at 'em? There is a You Tube clip of the Lebaron Strings "Hit And Run" but it doesn't seen to want to play...... Ian D 2
Pete S Posted October 16, 2014 Posted October 16, 2014 Well the fact that the current repertoire owners sent a previously unheard instrumental of such a legendary classic indicates that they must have the original master tapes. I'll drop 'em a line tomorrow and see what other surprises they could be holding and I'll bet a pound to a penny they have an instrumental of "Our Love Is In The Pocket". Any other Revilot contenders I can pitch at 'em? There is a You Tube clip of the Lebaron Strings "Hit And Run" but it doesn't seen to want to play...... Ian D Hit And Run instrumental came out on Goldmine Ian, so strike that one off
Guest Posted October 16, 2014 Posted October 16, 2014 Hit And Run instrumental came out on Goldmine Ian, so strike that one off I have that one here. TOTALLY SOLID HITBOUND is the CD. Also on there is Topper Productions - Happiness is here, Lebaron Orch - Hit & Run, Revilot Orch - Somebody Somewhere.
Wiganer1 Posted October 16, 2014 Posted October 16, 2014 gary rushbrooke used to play the instrumental to carletta lies ..never seen that
Bigsoulman Posted October 16, 2014 Posted October 16, 2014 Mr. Soul - over 100 Funk Bros tracks were released in the 90's, they came out as Karaoke discs sold via Walmart. They use the original backing tracks of everything from Shop Around onwards. Not only that, but a second set just featured the a capella vocals to all of them as well. Story goes that they were withdrawn from sale after a short while. I think I still have all of these if you or anyone else wants them. Have a listen to this - OH MY GOD https://www.dailymotion.com/video/xiet6v_four-tops-ask-the-lonely-acapella_music Breathtaking and tears in the eyes inducing. 1
Guest Posted October 16, 2014 Posted October 16, 2014 Blimey, you're right. I just did a search and nothing came up. I've just discovered the never-before-heard instrumental of "Open The Door To Your Heart" goddammit! Not bad for a rainy Wednesday evening ay? Ian D If you want I can email you the track Ian!
Hitsville Chalky Posted October 16, 2014 Posted October 16, 2014 Yes that is a very mysterious track, it sounds a lot like Our Love but isn't, it's just got elements of it in there...Hitsville Chalky on here made a great vocal to that by Pat Lewis Also done another with Nolan Porter with one of the tracks in the you tube video
Hitsville Chalky Posted October 16, 2014 Posted October 16, 2014 Breathtaking and tears in the eyes inducing. Fantastic Video
Ady Croasdell Posted October 16, 2014 Posted October 16, 2014 I must admit to being a bit blasé about backing tracks of great vocals. We have a lot of Pied Piper instrumentals, I put a couple on the first CD but did not do more as I felt it was short changing customers. Also when I've played them out I get a reasonable response but nowt as keen as you lot on here. However if there is interest and demand, I could put them out on other comps or even use as flips of Pied Piper 45s. 'I'm Coming Home' is impressive as is 'I Can't Hold On', 'Hold On To My Baby' and the Dynamics 'I Need Your Love' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3bl6I78s8U 3
Chalky Posted October 16, 2014 Posted October 16, 2014 Yes it was Back Street instrumental, but it's a completely different mix to the one on the single It is on one of Guy's podcasts in the Stafford Story, link in my signature below.
Podge Posted October 16, 2014 Posted October 16, 2014 What an absolutely blinding thread, where can I get hold of one of those Walmart cd's guys? anyone got one for sale?
Podge Posted October 16, 2014 Posted October 16, 2014 Track listing; Headline news Hole in the wall Don't say maybe baby Unknown Unknown When you came into my life Everybody's got some soul I have faith in you Holding hands Thanks Rob, thought I was going to find out the two ''unknowns'' but know why now I do not know them !!!!!
Guest nickw Posted October 16, 2014 Posted October 16, 2014 Blimey, you're right. I just did a search and nothing came up. I've just discovered the never-before-heard instrumental of "Open The Door To Your Heart" goddammit! Not bad for a rainy Wednesday evening ay? Ian D
Soulfinger Posted October 16, 2014 Posted October 16, 2014 I must admit to being a bit blasé about backing tracks of great vocals. We have a lot of Pied Piper instrumentals, I put a couple on the first CD but did not do more as I felt it was short changing customers. Also when I've played them out I get a reasonable response but nowt as keen as you lot on here. However if there is interest and demand, I could put them out on other comps or even use as flips of Pied Piper 45s. 'I'm Coming Home' is impressive as is 'I Can't Hold On', 'Hold On To My Baby' and the Dynamics 'I Need Your Love' Then you should jolly well stop being blasé about them Mr Croasdell. If you have them, you really should let us at them.
Ian Dewhirst Posted October 16, 2014 Posted October 16, 2014 If you want I can email you the track Ian! Well, I have a flawless WAV Steve, so I'm OK on that score. But can I take it from the above that you've had this track for a while? I'd be curious as to the source. I mean,this instrumental never came up when Goldmine had access to the Don Davis masters and there's no history on this instrumental even existing prior to now. So where did you get it from out of curiosity? I'm interested 'cos none of the serious Detroit collectors that I know had ever heard of it's existance. This is the original instrumental backing minus Darrell Banks. Are you sure yours is the same one...? Ian D
Ady Croasdell Posted October 17, 2014 Posted October 17, 2014 Then you should jolly well stop being blasé about them Mr Croasdell. If you have them, you really should let us at them. But what do people want? 7s, occasional CD tracks, sprinkled among vocals, or a dedicated instrumental CD? I'M sure there will be some who don't want them on a CD too
Robbk Posted October 17, 2014 Posted October 17, 2014 (edited) "Never Alone" as recorded by The Holidays. But a different take? Edited October 17, 2014 by RobbK
Guest nickw Posted October 17, 2014 Posted October 17, 2014 But what do people want? 7s, occasional CD tracks, sprinkled among vocals, or a dedicated instrumental CD? I'M sure there will be some who don't want them on a CD too For me it will be vinyl, an album or the odd double A side 45 would be good but just getting them drip fed as B sides forever would be fine.
Soulfinger Posted October 17, 2014 Posted October 17, 2014 But what do people want? 7s, occasional CD tracks, sprinkled among vocals, or a dedicated instrumental CD? I'M sure there will be some who don't want them on a CD too Personal preference would be for a dedicated instrumental CD with 7's for the best of the bunch, but I guess it's hard to judge what the demand would be and which would generate the best return. I'm happy to get them in any format you can put them out on! The approach you take with Kent (vinyl and subsequently CD) compilations has always worked for me. I have bought the lot and will always do so. I guess you'll need to work out what people whose anorak hoods are less zipped up will buy.
Ik001 Posted October 17, 2014 Posted October 17, 2014 Dave, didn't he used to play Back Street purely instrumental version? Hi Pete, Yes Guy used to play the Backstreet instrumental. Last time me thinks at Skipton many moons ago, but he told me he had to borrow it back to play it out. I have a tape of this one from the Richard Searling's radio show when it was played. Awesome instrumenal. Best, Ian
Guest Posted October 17, 2014 Posted October 17, 2014 Well, I have a flawless WAV Steve, so I'm OK on that score. But can I take it from the above that you've had this track for a while? I'd be curious as to the source. I mean,this instrumental never came up when Goldmine had access to the Don Davis masters and there's no history on this instrumental even existing prior to now. So where did you get it from out of curiosity? I'm interested 'cos none of the serious Detroit collectors that I know had ever heard of it's existance. This is the original instrumental backing minus Darrell Banks. Are you sure yours is the same one...? Ian D I think we had.. ..or I had my wires crossed somewhere in the thread Ian. I was meaning the Hit & Run backing track.
Guest Posted October 17, 2014 Posted October 17, 2014 (edited) I must admit to being a bit blasé about backing tracks of great vocals. We have a lot of Pied Piper instrumentals, I put a couple on the first CD but did not do more as I felt it was short changing customers. Also when I've played them out I get a reasonable response but nowt as keen as you lot on here. However if there is interest and demand, I could put them out on other comps or even use as flips of Pied Piper 45s. 'I'm Coming Home' is impressive as is 'I Can't Hold On', 'Hold On To My Baby' and the Dynamics 'I Need Your Love' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3bl6I78s8U I`m Coming Home backing track?.........marvelous! Edited October 17, 2014 by Guest
Pete S Posted October 17, 2014 Posted October 17, 2014 When The Hesitations album came out on CD (Goldmine?) they put instrumental versions of all the best tracks on as bonus cuts.
Chalky Posted October 17, 2014 Posted October 17, 2014 The podcast below of Guy's Stafford spins features Backstreet amongst it as well as Phrenetics Band and Detroit Rhythm Section (Ollie McLaughlin Band) Saving My Love For My Baby https://www.soulunderground.co.uk/StaffordTOTW/files/88762bb7ac7ad5ae827c0e5f50e9ddd8-26.html The next one has other Detroit instrumentals, Shake Me Break Me, Don't Say Maybe Baby, Watch Your Step and In The Pocket. https://www.soulunderground.co.uk/StaffordTOTW/files/12187c9540bf7d83810d483b3b8749bb-27.html
Guest Rubber Soul Posted October 18, 2014 Posted October 18, 2014 But what do people want? 7s, occasional CD tracks, sprinkled among vocals, or a dedicated instrumental CD? I'M sure there will be some who don't want them on a CD too I really enjoyed the superb instrumentals on the first CD! Would be very happy for more on volume 2... Sprinkled among vocals is just fine - in the same style as on volume 1... Would not mind 45s either!!! By the way, do you know when volume 2 is planned to drop??
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