Soulsmith Posted August 4, 2006 Posted August 4, 2006 Robert Elms is a DJ on Radio London who really gets on my pip. He is very fond of his own voice, but comes across as one of the lads. Bit of a geezer. Also puts him self about as a bit of a an expert on sub cultures of days gone by. To re-inforce his credibility he plays a bit of soul/funk. Today he played Lord Large featuring Dean Parrish - 'Left Right & Centre' A record he descibed as 'mighty.' Sorry having trbl posting link from Radio London site. But its the worst crock of shite you ever heard. Worse than anything in Ken's collection. Col.
Guest Posted August 4, 2006 Posted August 4, 2006 Robert Elms is a DJ on Radio London who really gets on my pip. He is very fond of his own voice, but comes across as one of the lads. Bit of a geezer. Also puts him self about as a bit of a an expert on sub cultures of days gone by. To re-inforce his credibility he plays a bit of soul/funk. Today he played Lord Large featuring Dean Parrish - 'Left Right & Centre' A record he descibed as 'mighty.' Sorry having trbl posting link from Radio London site. But its the worst crock of shite you ever heard. Worse than anything in Ken's collection. Col. Hi Col But what do you really think of it? I thought you hired Ken's records to DJ with? Derek
Soulsmith Posted August 5, 2006 Author Posted August 5, 2006 Hi Col But what do you really think of it? I thought you hired Ken's records to DJ with? Derek Alright there Derek! Well, here it is. What you think? Hasn't Weller got something to do with this? I wouldn't be surprised. I'm not a fan.SF227604_01_01_01.mp3
Pete S Posted August 5, 2006 Posted August 5, 2006 (edited) Dean Parrish and this Lord Large guy are on Mark Lamarr's show on radio 2 this morning, not been on yet (at 10.15) so if you tune in now you'll hear em Edited August 5, 2006 by Pete-S
Soulsmith Posted August 5, 2006 Author Posted August 5, 2006 Dean Parrish and this Lord Large guy are on Mark Lamarr's show on radio 2 this morning, not been on yet (at 10.15) so if you tune in now you'll hear em Thanks for the warning!
Pete S Posted August 5, 2006 Posted August 5, 2006 Thanks for the warning! Well I'm looking forward to Dean Parrish at least getting some recognition for something! Must be nice for him at last.
Guest Posted August 5, 2006 Posted August 5, 2006 Alright there Derek! Well, here it is. What you think? Not for me. However as Pete S says if it gives Dean P a bit of exposure/ recognition it's not all bad. Derek btw Col u up at the 100 club next week?
Guest TONY ROUNCE Posted August 5, 2006 Posted August 5, 2006 Robert Elms is a DJ on Radio London who really gets on my pip. He is very fond of his own voice, but comes across as one of the lads. Bit of a geezer. Also puts him self about as a bit of a an expert on sub cultures of days gone by. Col, I'm surprised you didn't know that 'Dutch' Elms actually invented Dean Parrish - along with New Romantics, QPR, mods, Che Guevara, Matt Monro, architecture and Sade. Possibly even Northern Soul, too... TONE PS: Yes, the record IS crap, by the way. As my mate Tel said in the pub the other night, "It sounds like your uncle trying to be trendy".
Guest Posted August 5, 2006 Posted August 5, 2006 Thanks for the warning! Robert Elms is a esteemed writer and broadcaster who first gained noteriety in the 1980s magazine " The Face " . Due to the ' clout ' The Face had at the time , and his standing within that said publication , meant that his literary appraisals of certain performers / acts / clubs / scenes / youth movements / cultures , were the making or breaking of the same . I have tuned into Radio 2 to see what he is doing with Dean Parrish : I await the broadcast with interest . Malc Burton
Soulsmith Posted August 5, 2006 Author Posted August 5, 2006 (edited) Col, I'm surprised you didn't know that 'Dutch' Elms actually invented Dean Parrish - along with New Romantics, QPR, mods, Che Guevara, Matt Monro, architecture and Sade. Possibly even Northern Soul, too... TONE PS: Yes, the record IS crap, by the way. As my mate Tel said in the pub the other night, "It sounds like your uncle trying to be trendy". Robert Elms went on a public speaking training session. The crux of which was "tell 'em what you're gonna tell 'em, tell 'em it & then tell 'em what you've already told 'em" Repeat ad nauseam. Edited August 5, 2006 by Soulsmith
Soulsmith Posted August 5, 2006 Author Posted August 5, 2006 (edited) Robert Elms is a esteemed writer and broadcaster who first gained noteriety in the 1980s magazine " The Face " . Due to the ' clout ' The Face had at the time , and his standing within that said publication , meant that his literary appraisals of certain performers / acts / clubs / scenes / youth movements / cultures , were the making or breaking of the same . Malc Burton I didn't know he did The Face and am somewhat surprised. Yes he must have had some clout then. These days he rattles on like a little old lady. I still have the Northern Soul article from The Face......1982 ish? Derek, yes good for 100 Club. Looking fwd to it. Am booking Monday off work Edited August 5, 2006 by Soulsmith
jonbuck Posted August 5, 2006 Posted August 5, 2006 I didn't know he did The Face and am somewhat surprised. Yes he must have had some clout then.These days he rattles on like a little old lady. still have the Northern Soul article from The Face......1982 ish?Derek, yes good for 100 Club. Looking fwd to it. Am booking Monday off work And Robert Elms does a very good Spanish Language program on BBC2 in the early hours of the morning !!!! JB
Guest TONY ROUNCE Posted August 5, 2006 Posted August 5, 2006 I didn't know he did The Face and am somewhat surprised. Yes he must have had some clout then. Nah, not really Col, he was just a slightly smaller prat back then than he is now. He's not so much a bloke who's ever "had clout", more one who's always deserved a clout... TONE
Billy Freemantle Posted August 5, 2006 Posted August 5, 2006 Let's hope that Dean Parrish makes a few dollars out of this record. But how I wish he could have got the recognition for another record. On this he sounds like one of thousands of club singers. From an artistic point of view this is not good news for Dean.
Guest Posted August 5, 2006 Posted August 5, 2006 I didn't know he did The Face and am somewhat surprised. Yes he must have had some clout then. These days he rattles on like a little old lady. I still have the Northern Soul article from The Face......1982 ish? Derek, yes good for 100 Club. Looking fwd to it. Am booking Monday off work Is the NS article you have from The Face " Out On The Floor " by Neil Rushton , published in September 1982 ? Malc
Soulsmith Posted August 5, 2006 Author Posted August 5, 2006 Let's hope that Dean Parrish makes a few dollars out of this record. But how I wish he could have got the recognition for another record. On this he sounds like one of thousands of club singers. From an artistic point of view this is not good news for Dean. I think the Acid Jazz label are behind this collabration. Which is weird as the guy who runs it IS a soul fan.
Soulsmith Posted August 5, 2006 Author Posted August 5, 2006 It gets worse....... Ive just found the 12" Casino re-mix. No kidding.SF227604_01_02_02.mp3
Codfromderby Posted August 5, 2006 Posted August 5, 2006 Casino Classics.......? petrol station classics more like, pissin awfull
Guest Andy BB Posted August 7, 2006 Posted August 7, 2006 Went to see Lord Large last week and they had Dean Parrish appearing with them to do a version of this. It sounded brilliant live. As does their recent single Stuck In A Wind Up which has gone down pretty well every time I've heard it played out. If you get a chance to see them I'd recommend you take it. As for Robert Elms - He's either a bandwagon-jumping fashion whore or just a complete liar. How can you be a Mod one week, a Punk the next, then a New Romantic, a Goth, A soulboy... Naah
Guest Simon Posted August 7, 2006 Posted August 7, 2006 Went to see Lord As for Robert Elms - He's either a bandwagon-jumping fashion whore or just a complete liar. How can you be a Mod one week, a Punk the next, then a New Romantic, a Goth, A soulboy... Naah Funny you should say that cause i've been all 5 at some stage! Mod 79-82 (Punk for a couple of weeks inbetween ) Style Council/Blow Monkeys Soul boy 82-84 New Romantic 84-85 (I know i was late!) Goth 85 -86 Rockabilly 86-89 Mod/Soul boy 89-Present Simon (The mixed up kid!!)
soulfulsaint Posted August 7, 2006 Posted August 7, 2006 To be fair to Robert Elms he has been a black music fan for many years although not in the obsessive way that soem of us on Soul Source are. I worked with him at the Face and frequently met him at Le Beat Route in London at the time it was a mix of street funk, northern and new club music. Some gerat music and some dire. I once danced to Wham Rap but I was on the way to the bogs at the time.
Soulsmith Posted August 7, 2006 Author Posted August 7, 2006 I once danced to Wham Rap but I was on the way to the bogs at the time. If you'd danced in the bogs with Wham.....that would have been a great story!
Soulsmith Posted August 7, 2006 Author Posted August 7, 2006 Style Council/Blow Monkeys Soul boy 82-84 Eh? Sounds like a contradiction in terms. Did Style Council/Blow Monkeys Soul boys exist?
soulfulsaint Posted August 7, 2006 Posted August 7, 2006 (edited) If you'd danced in the bogs with Wham.....that would have been a great story! I was eating a chocolate bar at the time - A Careless Wispa. Edited August 7, 2006 by soulfulsaint
Guest Simon Posted August 7, 2006 Posted August 7, 2006 Eh? Sounds like a contradiction in terms. Did Style Council/Blow Monkeys Soul boys exist? Dunno, i had a Paul Weller/Dr Robert wedge at the time, wore loafers, chinos, liked a bit of Tamla, James Brown, drunk Capuccinos...I thought i was a bit of a Soul boy at the time! Simon
tone5446 Posted August 7, 2006 Posted August 7, 2006 Dutch Elms is a bandwagon jumpin' berk, who has an opinion on everything, note how often he turns up on those crap I remember the 50s, 60s, 70s........shows (although not as often as Stuart Maconie). The other night he was waffling on about Blacks in Britain on the telly, his connection with early immigration issues was that his mum was a bus conductoress (clippie) who thought that they were taking our jobs. He is a lazy researchers dream, give him a call and he'll tell you what it was like in the general strike of 1926, or the mod's riot at Margate, or the first/last of Wigan, the Roxy, the London Palladium etc. I also remember him when he wrote for the free magazine Ms London - he had a pony-tail, need I say more?
Soulsmith Posted August 7, 2006 Author Posted August 7, 2006 Dunno, i had a Paul Weller/Dr Robert wedge at the time, wore loafers, chinos, liked a bit of Tamla, James Brown, drunk Capuccinos...I thought i was a bit of a Soul boy at the time! Simon Full marks for the chinos, loafers, TM & JB Assume there was the odd Lacoste polo shirt in there too. Bit confused about the Capuccinos...real soul boys would not stop shop of a double espresso Col I also remember him when he wrote for the free magazine Ms London - he had a pony-tail, need I say more? Nope. Nuff said.
Ady Croasdell Posted August 8, 2006 Posted August 8, 2006 He was married or went out with the wonderful Hattie who IS a true Northern fan and knows her stuff, 100 Club, Stafford etc in the 80s (when the 100 was full of wedges). He interviewed me about the 100 Club once and spent the whole time talking about himself, though he's not the only journo to do this at all, including several in NS mags.
Guest Posted August 8, 2006 Posted August 8, 2006 I'm so glad I'm reading this stuff on the really tedious Robert Elms ... fake laddy talking head bandwagon jumping London pseudo 'bloke' beloved by the media wankers...it's his accent and 'know all' tone that really gets up my nose. He only gets to do stuff cos all the really interesting people from his era are too drug fucked to speak. Is he working class or not ? If so I wish he'd make his mind up what accent he's going to use, his middle class one with cock er nee vowels or just his middle class one. At least Dean Parrish and Acid Jazz is getting something out of it tho.
Guest 71TRSC Posted August 8, 2006 Posted August 8, 2006 I have just read his book "the way we wore", which is an interesting read. I would quote from it what he says about Northern but I have lent it to someone and havent got it back yet. The book is a biography of him through the fashions of the time and in it he goes on about being a schoolboy skinhead in the early seventies and his brothers being mods. It is quite funny and self deprecating in places but he still comes across as self obsessed and vain. Worth getting it out of the library.
Ady Croasdell Posted August 8, 2006 Posted August 8, 2006 I have just read his book "the way we wore", which is an interesting read. I would quote from it what he says about Northern but I have lent it to someone and havent got it back yet. The book is a biography of him through the fashions of the time and in it he goes on about being a schoolboy skinhead in the early seventies and his brothers being mods. It is quite funny and self deprecating in places but he still comes across as self obsessed and vain. Worth getting it out of the library. Decca Aitkenhead (weird name!) slated it in the Guardian in roughly the same way as we have been having a dig on here! She worked it out just by reading the book!
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