Theft Of Records - Early Warning

[Markw]

Hi All

 

Was with Gary Samways at the Llandudno weekender. He has posted this evening on Facebook that he has got back home to Swindon and he has been burgled. His entire collection (about 3,000 records) built up over 35+ on the scene is the only thing that has been pinched; as such, he surmises that it must be someone who knows him, knows about his collection and has some idea what to do with it.

 

He is still getting his head around all this. The Police have been there and apparently been as helpful as they can be.

 

Needless to say, our thoughts are with the guy.

 

Any ideas, info, etc gratefully received. Feel free to message me at this stage if you have any info about a collection being offered, sudden items coming up from someone who perhaps you would not expect (some rare items in there - Gary has never sold a thing in his 35+ years of collecting), or any whispers you might have heard. I will pass on to Gary. Or, if you know Gary (I am sure many on here do), feel free to contact him direct on here or via FB. Please keep it to hard facts and info rather than general tips and advice.

 

Thanks.

 

Edited September 29, 2014 by markw

[Rich B]

Very sorry to hear that - thoroughly nice chap!

[billb]

makes me feel sick, so sorry for him!

[Rhino]

scum of the earth cannot believe someone would take some ones life long collection,pride and joy and spoil all the joy of collecting my thought go out to him and hope he manages to get it back. would let all major sellers know a list of things to look for and on ebay. hope the soul police catch the bastards 

[Gary Samways]

thanks guys, gutted, will post up tomorrow what I think is missing, luckily they didn't get everything but 3 thousand singles is devastating, hope you are well Richie and thanks mark for starting this thread

[Steve S 60]

Very sad news.  I hope something turns up to help track down the culprits.

[Soulhawk1960]

Gutted for the lad.

 

What a nasty thing to do to someone.

[Spacehopper]

saw it on facebook..gutted for you gary ...and Karen! it seems shes had a lot of it lately,hope you get it sorted and get em back

 

atb

 

dean

[Stevegods]

Not great at all .... but have to say that Social Media is one of the tools thieves now use to target prospects ... 

The fact that it may have been posted that the occupants of the property may have been away for the weekend ..leaves it very vulnerable and its another resource "low life's" can use to get an easier touch .

I just hope it's no one that knows him or a friend of a friend ... these things can have a habit of turning out to be an acquaintance of some kind

 

Its a very sad state of affairs .... but I had a mate get burgled last month while he was away on his honeymoon ( second marriage )   ... it was plastered all over his facebook page of where he was and for how long and every day to day step he was making ..

Hate the bloody thing ... but I know it has its uses .. 

 

Very sorry to hear of his loss ..just hope he had them covered under his house contents insurance ... ( and i know that can never replace the years of collecting ) 

 

And no reference to any Scousers nicking stuff please  

Edited September 30, 2014 by stevegods

[Davenpete]

Very sorry to hear that, it really stinks, my best wishes Gary.

Dave Carne

[Frankie M]

Very sorry , hope they are returned , devastating

[stokesoulboy]

Terrible news , the worst thing is it's a journey collecting , I for one know who or where you buy things - I traded this 45 at the casino or I bought this off pete s etc, it builds a picture that can never be replaced I hope you get some news on the missing records soon

[Mrtag]

GOOD LUCK WITH CATCHING WHOEVER!! HOPE YOU GET THEM BACK!! I CAN'T IMAGINE ANYTHING WORSE!! ATB JOHN.

[Jordirip]

Not great at all .... but have to say that Social Media is one of the tools thieves now use to target prospects ... 

The fact that it may have been posted that the occupants of the property may have been away for the weekend ..leaves it very vulnerable and its another resource "low life's" can use to get an easier touch .

 

That is really good advice Steve, and something we all ought to be much more aware of.

[Jnixon]

Not great at all .... but have to say that Social Media is one of the tools thieves now use to target prospects ... 

The fact that it may have been posted that the occupants of the property may have been away for the weekend ..leaves it very vulnerable and its another resource "low life's" can use to get an easier touch .

I just hope it's no one that knows him or a friend of a friend ... these things can have a habit of turning out to be an acquaintance of some kind

 

Its a very sad state of affairs .... but I had a mate get burgled last month while he was away on his honeymoon ( second marriage )   ... it was plastered all over his facebook page of where he was and for how long and every day to day step he was making ..

Hate the bloody thing ... but I know it has its uses .. 

 

Very sorry to hear of his loss ..just hope he had them covered under his house contents insurance ... ( and i know that can never replace the years of collecting ) 

 

And no reference to any Scousers nicking stuff please  

 

facebook is best left alone for many reasons but this just adds to them.  

 

dont know if anyone does this but on dog rare stuff you could etch your initials or postcode with an engravers tool in the run out.

 

only 20 quid for the tool. 

[Jordirip]

facebook is best left alone for many reasons but this just adds to them.  

 

dont know if anyone does this but on dog rare stuff you could etch your initials or postcode with an engravers tool in the run out.

 

only 20 quid for the tool. 

 

Or heat up an old school compass point over the gas flame.

[Steve S 60]

facebook is best left alone for many reasons but this just adds to them.  

 

dont know if anyone does this but on dog rare stuff you could etch your initials or postcode with an engravers tool in the run out.

 

only 20 quid for the tool. 

 

Wouldn't a permanent UV marker pen be a safer option, and less likely to devalue the vinyl?

[Jnixon]

Wouldn't a permanent UV marker pen be a safer option, and less likely to devalue the vinyl?

 

you can go that way instead. up to you. do do something though. 

 

theres too much of this going on these days. we should be all thinking about more seriously about security. 

[Steve S 60]

you can go that way instead. up to you. do do something though. 

 

theres too much of this going on these days. we should be all thinking about more seriously about security. 

 

Taking scans of everything would be a good move as well, with your name on the scan.

[Guest shell]

 its disgusting and whom ever has done this needs sorting has  to violate some ones home is the lowest of the low,  englishmans home is his castle and all that and home is were the heart is , no soul in this persons heart

[Quinvy]

Give us a few titles of the rarer stuff mate, they're the ones that stand out like a sore thumb when offered for sale. 

[Jnixon]

Give us a few titles of the rarer stuff mate, they're the ones that stand out like a sore thumb when offered for sale. 

 

do that covertly dont do it in the open!!

[Quinvy]

do that covertly dont do it in the open!!

Why? surely the more people that are looking out for them the better? They've been stolen already.

[Jnixon]

Why? surely the more people that are looking out for them the better? They've been stolen already.

 

because if someone is selling them and they get wind of it you will lose the advantage that the rarity gives you.

[Simsy]

Appalling, I always feel safe with our people when at a do or similar. Though as already stated, someone in the know must have been involved in this terrible act of theft.

 

I really must press on with indexing the collection and get them insured!

 

10-25k worth - £125 policy (50 excess)

25-50k    "      - £195     "             "

50-75k    "      - £250     "             "

75-100k  "      - £300     "             "

 

I spoke to a guy called Paul and he said it was OK to put the number up 01892 506 884

or go to the website www.newmooninsurance.com

Edited October 2, 2014 by Simsy

[Peter99]

Sorry to hear this. Having your house broken into is extremely unpleasant and goes way beyond the loss of anything that is stolen. I've been broken into twice and it leaves a nasty scar I can tell you.

 

I hope you get your records back Gary.

 

All the best.

 

Peter

 

[Louis]

I feel for anyone who has had their lifetime vinyl collection stolen.  Gaz Kellet (quite a few on here will know him) is a good mate and when he had his collection stolen it really did have an adverse effect on his life (still does as he doesn't attend venues as much as he did as when he hears a record he had, he wonders if that was his copy).

 

There is also the fear and loathing that goes along with this as you start to suspect who could have done it, someone who obviously knows me and may have been back to the house at some time.

 

It is a "horrible" crime that has a lifelong effect.

 

I would love to set up a vigilante squad that would deal with these lowlifes when they are found to be 100 per cent guilty!

 

Louis

[Gary Samways]

Very sorry to hear that, it really stinks, my best wishes Gary.

Dave Carne

thanks dave

[Flanny]

sorry to hear about this awful news, low life scum anyone who could do such a thing I really hope you find out who it is Gary my heart goes out to you

[Mark Bicknell]

Gary, feel for you mate it's terrible, guess you have contacted all the major dealers in case they get offered a collection suddenly, bastards need stringing by the balls and hit with big sticks.

Edited September 30, 2014 by Mark Bicknell

[Gary Samways]

sorry to hear about this awful news, low life scum anyone who could do such a thing I really hope you find out who it is Gary my heart goes out to you

cheers flanny

[Gary Samways]

Gary, feel for you mate it's terrible, guess you have contacted all the major dealers in case they get offered a collection suddenly, bastards need stringing by the balls and hit with big sticks.

thanks mark, have posted some on hear and fb, told all the big guns

[Dave Rimmer]

because if someone is selling them and they get wind of it you will lose the advantage that the rarity gives you.

 

But if people don't know what has been stolen how will they know what to look out for ?

[Jnixon]

But if people don't know what has been stolen how will they know what to look out for ?

 

send pms to people

[Guest]

Gary -Post some titles up of what's gone from the collection anything tasty will be offered to someone - good luck with the return & convictionof those involved

[Gary Samways]

Gary -Post some titles up of what's gone from the collection anything tasty will be offered to someone - good luck with the return & convictionof those involved

already started a new thread with that on mate

[Guest soulcamper]

Apologies if this has already been posted, but I'm doing this for a mate - who has many friends on the Soul Scene - Gary Samways.

 

He has had the majority of this collection of 3,000 soul singles stolen from his house.

 

Here's a list of some of the records stolen there are too many to list but if any of these surface then we have a lead.
a complete set of mirwood lable, most of them white demo's
a complete set of grapevine singles, 1st series and grapevine 2000
a complete set of soul junction singles
tavasco - love is trying to get a hold on me - rampart (near mint)...
Charles johnson - never had a love so good- alston
lew kirton- heaven in the afternoon- alston (this came fro john buck in the 80's and has RSG stamped on it)
bobby taylor -there are roses somewhere in the world -sunflower (issue)
tamiko jones - cross my heart -metromedia demo
rick sheppard - can we share it - cbs demo
exportations - I want you
daddy maxfield - I've always been in love with you - ua demo
Alfie Davidson - love is serious business - mercury
vel vets - i'm gonna find me somebody - 20th century - issue
patti Austin - I've given all my love- coral - demo
patti Austin - too much a part of me - coral - demo
patti Austin - someones gonna cry - coral - demo
ortheia barnes - I never loved nobody -coral -demo
star treks - gonna need magic - veep - demo
Barbara banks - river of tears - veep - demo
darrow fletcher - what good am I - Jacklyn
darrow fletcher - infatuation - Jacklyn
bobby sheen - something new to do - wb -issue
bobby sheen - if I ever thought i'd hurt you -wb demo
we the people - making my daydream real - lion - demo (this has a pink cross on this side)
art and honey - lets make love now - motown - demo
betty wright - man of mine - alston
Barbara lewis - I remember the feeling - uk red atlantic
deon Jackson - ooh baby - uk red atlantic
Loretta Williams - baby cakes - uk red atlantic
drifters - baby what I mean - uk red atlantic
jay and the americans - got hung up along the way - uk ua
paul newman and the excallibers - aint you got a heart - uk mercury
Jackie Wilson - it's all over - Brunswick - demo
barret strong - man up in the sky - capitol
barret strong - is it true - capitol

 

Please contact Gary via Facebook if you know the anything about this monstrous act or if you see any of these offered for sale. Cheers.

Edited September 30, 2014 by soulcamper

[Stevegods]

Gary ... don't know you mate ... as ive been off the scene for a while and only a newbie on this site ...but my heart goes out to you mate .. it really does .

Just seen the list ... and that's a life time of memories ..never mind the value ... and irreplaceable really.

I really hope that someone ..somewhere feels someone's collar on this one and turns up a lead .. 

 

It's a violation of many things when someone burgles you ..and you always feel they could return at any time ... its very distressing I know .

I would advise anyone who has a collection of any sort to both insure it and also think of the measures you can take to help prevent it from being stolen ...

House Alarm .

Movement censor cameras ..very cheap and easy to install ..only need one in the room that the collection is in ...

Big Dog ..

Get someone to house sit

 

and don't let many people know you are going away ..especially not on any Social Media sites ..

 

Hope something turns up for you mate ... cant think what it must be like to just have CD's to play . 

If I have any of your lost items twice ... which is possible..... their yours mate !! 

 

Steve 

Edited September 30, 2014 by stevegods

[Billywhizz]

sorry to hear this Gary ,look like inside job, you got to go out enjoy life ,leaving house, best of luck, f,,king w,,kers cheers billy

[Dave Moore]

Threads merged.

 

Regards,

 

Dave

(Site Mod Team)

[Orotava]

Just wanted to add my disgust with whoever stole this collection - they probably have no idea of the heartache caused, or couldn`t care less which makes me so angry.

[Kev Cane]

Just wanted to add my disgust with whoever stole this collection - they probably have no idea of the heartache caused, or couldn`t care less which makes me so angry.

The most annoying thing is when you look at it and the circumstances, it was planned and they knew exactly what they were doing and the effect it would have on Gary, that to me makes it 10 times worse

 

Kev

[Gary Samways]

thanks everyone for your support, just hope we may be in with a chance of retrieving them

[Guest soulcamper]

Cheers Dave Moore for keeping this all together

[Godzilla]

thanks everyone for your support, just hope we may be in with a chance of retrieving them

Fingers crossed for you mate

[Frankie Crocker]

thanks everyone for your support, just hope we may be in with a chance of retrieving them

Awful to hear about this Gary. The scumbags would have needed a van to shift the volume of records stolen - have you spoken to the neighbours or checked on local CCTV? Suspect is probably local, North Wales coast, knows you and/or people who know you collect. Let us Soul Sourcers know what to look out for so we can nail the b------. Hang on in there son and hope something turns up.

[Big Red]

I HOPE YOU GET YOUR COLLECTION BACK SOON AND THE LOWLIFE SCUM WHO TOOK THEM ARE CAUGHT.

[Mike Lofthouse]

The worrying thing Gary is that somebody who knows you has either done it or has passed on the details to others. Yes, you might have mentioned you were away on Facebook - but no way has a stranger come across that fact,  decided you must have a collection worth stealing then found out where you live , gone to your house and just stolen the records!

[Pete S]

The worrying thing Gary is that somebody who knows you has either done it or has passed on the details to others. Yes, you might have mentioned you were away on Facebook - but no way has a stranger come across that fact,  decided you must have a collection worth stealing then found out where you live , gone to your house and just stolen the records!

 

If you have a look on Karen's facebook page you'll see that they appear to know who took them...

[Mike Lofthouse]

If you have a look on Karen's facebook page you'll see that they appear to know who took them...

I don't Karen Pete  - so can't see her page on Facebook or any discussion threads - so I hadn't realised that the culprits were known - makes my post somewhat superfluous!!