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Well with the prices some patches / badges have gone through on eBay in the last month or so ... i think they are just trying their luck .... you don't see the 1st Anniversary patch too often ... or maybe its on an original Levies 501 denim jacket worn and signed by Russ W ... :)  

Posted

I know this maybe quite rare ... and the prices of badges on eBay have been going up and up ..but ...... 

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/northern-soul-first-allnighter-badge-1973-/201181113971?pt=UK_Music_Music_Memorabilia_LE&hash=item2ed7542e73

 

 

:D

I reckon it might get a bid crazy as that seems have a look at this 

 

https://www.popsike.com/php/quicksearch.php?pagenum=1&searchtext=wigan+patch+&incldescr=&sortord=dprice&thumbs=&currsel=

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I kept several from my Casino days, for years   . I remember loads of repros doin the rounds  in the 90s, and you couldnt tell the difference from the originals  ,They were perfect copies. Theyre just an embroidered patch at the end of the day.  I gave all mine away .

I bet half the "original"  ones on ebay are those repros   . :D  

Guest Matt Male
Posted

Lost a few of those badges when I had a bag nicked at the Casino.  Still got a mint Oldies Farewell Nighter badge.  Can't believe someone paid £112 for one three weeks ago.

 

Crap, I threw mine away about twenty years ago. :(

Guest Matt Male
Posted

I kept several from my Casino days, for years   . I remember loads of repros doin the rounds  in the 90s, and you couldnt tell the difference from the originals  ,They were perfect copies. Theyre just an embroidered patch at the end of the day.  I gave all mine away .

I bet half the "original"  ones on ebay are those repros   . :D  

 

Check the run-out stitching. :thumbsup:


Posted (edited)

There were no badges/patches on sale at the first Wigan all nighter, thats 

got to be a fake, for  a start Kev didn't do the first one as far as I can remember.

Why would anybody produce patches for the first night ?, not knowing

whether anybody would turn up or not.

Edited by Kegsy
Guest Matt Male
Posted

That edging is machine-stitched on a 1980s Bernina Bernette 334D overlocker. No way it was produced in 1973. :g:

Posted

Where did that Tommy hunt patch come from

I went the casino from 75 thru till it closed in 81 and I have never seen that Tommy hunt Wigan patch in my life.

Steve

 

i bought one at the casino .....

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Posted

There were no badges/patches on sale at the first Wigan all nighter, thats 

got to be a fake, for  a start Kev didn't do the first one as far as I can remember.

Why would anybody produce patches for the first night ?, not knowing

whether anybody would turn up or not.

 

 

here's the story..on the first night anyone who attended was asked if they wanted a souvenir patch..and those who did filled out their name and address.Kev Roberts apparently attended the second week. Russ told me they ordered 500 patches and he designed it (by now KR was DJing on a regular basis) several weeks later the patches were ready and each member was called up on stage to rcv them...ive seen a few over the years and the one on ebay is almost certainly not an original...

Guest Dave Ward
Posted (edited)

It's got to be easy to fake these 'trinkets' , a decent sewing machinist, a bit of a scrub with a scouring pad, a few needle marks around the edge ? Or maybe I'm jealous because I chucked mine away whenever the shirts wore out ? How do you check for originality or providence ?

Edited by Dave Ward
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Looked Okeh to me before being removed from sale. Earlier thread on the subject dating from 30/9/09 shows a scan that looks very similar and puts the value at £300. Methinks this is a real 'un but it ain't worth £450. Should have been floated at a lower starting price but with a sensible reserve.

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here's the story..on the first night anyone who attended was asked if they wanted a souvenir patch..and those who did filled out their name and address.Kev Roberts apparently attended the second week. Russ told me they ordered 500 patches and he designed it (by now KR was DJing on a regular basis) several weeks later the patches were ready and each member was called up on stage to rcv them...ive seen a few over the years and the one on ebay is almost certainly not an original...

 

I have to say I dont remember any of that and I was

there that night. Totally off my face but there nonetheless.

Posted

There were no badges/patches on sale at the first Wigan all nighter, thats 

got to be a fake, for  a start Kev didn't do the first one as far as I can remember.

Why would anybody produce patches for the first night ?, not knowing

whether anybody would turn up or not.

 

That is a very very early badge though Kegsy, not the one in the picture which I'm not sure about but the proper Russ & Kev one, as I said, I had one in the 70's, I was given it in 1975 by my Auntie's husband who went to Wigan for the first 6 months or so, so it was sold at the Casino.  

Guest Matt Male
Posted

I have to say I dont remember any of that and I was

there that night. Totally off my face but there nonetheless.

 

 

What was that first night like Kegsy? Was it rammed? Was there any feeling about what it might become?

Posted (edited)

What was that first night like Kegsy? Was it rammed? Was there any feeling about what it might become?

 

Yeah the first night.

There was quite a queue outside but we were quite near the front.

I remember a right scrum when they opened the doors, everybody 

pushing and shoving.

When we got upstairs it was virtually empty and looked massive.

Dont think it was anywhere near rammed that night,probably half or less

of capacity.

There were fewer people on the scene then, as opposed to 3/4 years later.

You have to remember that the Torch preceded it and that was rammed with 600/700 

people in there.

As for the future, never gave it a thought, but it was by

far the biggest venue, to hold regular all nighters, by a mile up to that point.

Edited by Kegsy
Posted

I have to say I dont remember any of that and I was

there that night. Totally off my face but there nonetheless.

 

I have to say I dont remember any of that and I was

there that night. Totally off my face but there nonetheless.

 

 

when i was designing the costumes for the movie 'Soulboy'...a guy had contacted the production and said he had some original memorabilia..he was from the Wolverhampton area and had come up to Stoke to see if he could be a part of the film. He was introduced to me as Clive Horden, a very friendly guy with enthusiasm to match. He had many original patches inc the 'first allnighter'..i said i'd always wanted one but i didnt start going to the Casino until early '74, i'd seen quite a few on clothing and bags during the first year or so..we got talking and i asked how they came about. He recalled that he'd been persuaded to go the Casino on the first night after attending the Catacombs i think he said.They all piled on a train and arrived , went in to a near empty venue. He told me the story as i repeated earlier..the badges were free..and he didnt think anymore about it after giving his name until a few weeks later (when KR had been DJing for a few weeks) when they were given out...Russ recalled to me it was imply a case of promotion..that people would return to claim their patch..i remember reading mainly thru B&S that things moved rather quickly with the Casino's popularity helped no doubt by the void left by the Torch!..a classic case of right place right time..

Guest Dave Ward
Posted (edited)

I read that Russ reckons there were 652 people in, on the first nighter, but they made £400 on the door at 75 pence admission, I make that £489, but he paid £55 for a B&S advert.

Edited by Dave Ward

Posted (edited)

I know this maybe quite rare ... and the prices of badges on eBay have been going up and up ..but ...... 

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/northern-soul-first-allnighter-badge-1973-/201181113971?pt=UK_Music_Music_Memorabilia_LE&hash=item2ed7542e73

 

 

:DSomeone forgot to put the decimal point after the 4 - Should read £ 4.50 

 

      For those out there with the 60s/70s Northern Soul related  "Brand new badges on your Jackets & Bags etc - 

 

                                                                           STOP IT !

 

     If you where there youll know - If you werent ,youll wish you had been.

 

    Ninja :boxing:

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