Theothertosspot Posted September 9, 2014 Posted September 9, 2014 Listening Lou Johnson version on Gold Soul. Never heard it before, sounds ok but lacks Roy Hamilltons big voice. Any thoughts
Benji Posted September 9, 2014 Posted September 9, 2014 Lou Johnson version is obviously a demo (IMO). So it's not really comparable to a fully orchestrated song like Roy Hamilton. I think RH's voice fits such a big city beat ballad much better than LJ. 2
El Corol Posted September 9, 2014 Posted September 9, 2014 Love Lou Johnson, to use a cliche he could sing the phone book. Yes for me Roy edges it on this but would be very happy with an acetate of Lou's version, very happy
Prophonics 2029 Posted September 9, 2014 Posted September 9, 2014 (edited) I thought it was Jerry Butler who could sing the phone book. Backwards. Edited September 9, 2014 by Prophonics 2029
Frankie Crocker Posted September 9, 2014 Posted September 9, 2014 what bout this version...haha Needs unscrambling... 1
Pete S Posted September 10, 2014 Posted September 10, 2014 Love Lou Johnson, to use a cliche he could sing the phone book. Yes for me Roy edges it on this but would be very happy with an acetate of Lou's version, very happy It's on a Kent cd.
Pete S Posted September 10, 2014 Posted September 10, 2014 I really need a UK demo of Roy Hamilton - one of the few British I've never had
Andyd68 Posted September 10, 2014 Posted September 10, 2014 Well sorry to say this Pete but I got one, found it in a ice cream tub in a record fair in Surrey for 80p in the 8ts. When I got home I pushed the middle out so it would look like a US Disc........... (a regret, one of many in the early record buying day at a time of I'll come back for that later attitude which after looking at JM site now, I still struggle to sleep) Andy 1
Pete S Posted September 10, 2014 Posted September 10, 2014 Well sorry to say this Pete but I got one, found it in a ice cream tub in a record fair in Surrey for 80p in the 8ts. When I got home I pushed the middle out so it would look like a US Disc........... (a regret, one of many in the early record buying day at a time of I'll come back for that later attitude which after looking at JM site now, I still struggle to sleep) Andy Oh no! But that's the thing about collecting British, it's just crazy that People - including me- would rather not have the record without a centre than have one with the centre missing - just shows it's nothing to do with the music really and it's more of an obsession. 1
Denbo Posted September 10, 2014 Posted September 10, 2014 (edited) Oh no! But that's the thing about collecting British, it's just crazy that People - including me- would rather not have the record without a centre than have one with the centre missing - just shows it's nothing to do with the music really and it's more of an obsession. Whereas, I'd rather have the record without a centre on British (if found cheap enough), whilst continuing to look for a replacement with a centre, than not have it at all. And yet, I don't want it at all on American, if I know it came out on British. Not including recent releases aimed specifically towards our scene. Edited September 10, 2014 by denbo 1
Prophonics 2029 Posted September 10, 2014 Posted September 10, 2014 I always think it's a sure sign that someone had had the the record once but didn't care about it....unless it was on a jukebox then it also could have been been played to death as well.
Benji Posted September 10, 2014 Posted September 10, 2014 I really need a UK demo of Roy Hamilton - one of the few British I've never had What label would that be? I never knew it came out on british....
Guest Posted September 10, 2014 Posted September 10, 2014 Love Lou Johnson, to use a cliche he could sing the phone book. Yes for me Roy edges it on this but would be very happy with an acetate of Lou's version, very happy It's on a Kent cd. There's also a bootleg 7" with a fake Big Top label...has "Unsatisfied" on the flip, though can't recall if its the extended version or not.
Guest Posted September 10, 2014 Posted September 10, 2014 What label would that be? I never knew it came out on british.... MGM...I found a mint stocker once...along with a Shane Martin stocker as well 1
Ady Croasdell Posted September 10, 2014 Posted September 10, 2014 Lou Johnson version is obviously a demo (IMO). So it's not really comparable to a fully orchestrated song like Roy Hamilton. I think RH's voice fits such a big city beat ballad much better than LJ. I've never thought of it as a demo Benji. It has brass, vibes, big girl group backing vocals and Lou certainly sings it like he would have on record. Maybe it would have had strings added before issue but everything else is perfect. I'll ask his wife what he recalls about it. Biased I know, but I was never a fan of Roy H's vocals and when I found this my prayers were answered.
Guest Posted September 10, 2014 Posted September 10, 2014 Biased I know, but I was never a fan of Roy H's vocals and when I found this my prayers were answered. Always a close race between Lou and Roy, but Roy wins out on this one for me...vocally and production-wise. 1
El Corol Posted September 10, 2014 Posted September 10, 2014 It's on a Kent cd. There's also a bootleg 7" with a fake Big Top label...has "Unsatisfied" on the flip, though can't recall if its the extended version or not. Thanks I know about the Kent release but didn't know about the boot. I maybe should have mentioned I was talking about an original unrealesed acetate (if one exists?) as opposed to a carver. I'm assuming Kent got it from tape but wonder if it ever got to an acetate or just stayed in the can?
Pete S Posted September 10, 2014 Posted September 10, 2014 Thanks I know about the Kent release but didn't know about the boot. I maybe should have mentioned I was talking about an original unrealesed acetate (if one exists?) as opposed to a carver. I'm assuming Kent got it from tape but wonder if it ever got to an acetate or just stayed in the can? I thought Ady had the acetate years before Kent got the Lou Johnson tapes - I'm talking 1991-ish here
El Corol Posted September 10, 2014 Posted September 10, 2014 I thought Ady had the acetate years before Kent got the Lou Johnson tapes - I'm talking 1991-ish here Interesting Pete, hopefully Ady can shed some light on that?
Pete S Posted September 10, 2014 Posted September 10, 2014 Interesting Pete, hopefully Ady can shed some light on that? He'll definitely confirm cos I had it on tape at the same time
dthedrug Posted September 10, 2014 Posted September 10, 2014 HI ALL A nice white MGM UK DEMO of Roy H or a carver of LOU? what would I want, what is the best, what have I got, yep! there is no competition, the Lou Johnson would only appeal to a DJ who wanted to play something different, DAVE K
Pk 22dj Posted September 10, 2014 Posted September 10, 2014 And what about the flip side, awesome in my book.
Andyd68 Posted September 10, 2014 Posted September 10, 2014 And what about the flip side, awesome in my book. "There she is" which is the A side on the British copy and also done by Baby Washington I am sure. 1
The Yank Posted September 10, 2014 Posted September 10, 2014 "There He Is" was released first as the B side to "That's How Heartaches Are Made" (Sue #783) and then again on Sue # 137 with "No Time For Pity". 1
Mattbolton Posted September 12, 2014 Posted September 12, 2014 (edited) I know a Ady owns both the 'Lou Johnson' acetate and now more recently the Unsatisfied extended cut. Interesting that they've been booted on the same 45 cos I know he wouldn't have done this. I have the RH 45 which I adore but I really love the Unreleased cut for the mind blowing backing vocals. Sounds like angels innit. Edited September 12, 2014 by mattbolton
Chalky Posted September 13, 2014 Posted September 13, 2014 Roy Hamilton has one of the great voices and will take some beating especially big city beat ballad material. Another taken so young.
mid tempo Posted September 13, 2014 Posted September 13, 2014 Roy h... love it. A record i would never want to sell on.. gaz.
Dave Pinch Posted September 13, 2014 Posted September 13, 2014 Roy h... love it. A record i would never want to sell on.. gaz. I love it gaz... But I've been daft enough to sell it 3 times up to now.. Only USA MGM issues mind
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