Guest Bogue Posted August 9, 2006 Posted August 9, 2006 I admire your loyalty to KR but I'm afraid it's very misplaced! KR knew exactly what was going on, he came upstairs before the police arrived. He saw what was happening and disappeared, he was later seen hiding behind some soulies downstairs! That is fact, I was there! So how long must we wait for the outcome??? Haven't got any loyalty to KR, don't even know the bloke & have never been to one of his productions. Just thought it might heal things a bit & perhaps encourage him to offer an appology to those who were (alledgedly) wronged maybe .
asboannie Posted August 9, 2006 Posted August 9, 2006 Haven't got any loyalty to KR, don't even know the bloke & have never been to one of his productions. Just thought it might heal things a bit & perhaps encourage him to offer an appology to those who were (alledgedly) wronged maybe . Unfortunately that will never happen ........as it would be like getting blood out of a stone I'm afraid to say .....plus KR is no longer on SS.....
Guest espo Posted August 9, 2006 Posted August 9, 2006 Haven't got any loyalty to KR, don't even know the bloke & have never been to one of his productions. Just thought it might heal things a bit & perhaps encourage him to offer an appology to those who were (alledgedly) wronged maybe . More chance of getting struck by lightening !!!!!!!!!!
Guest Posted August 9, 2006 Posted August 9, 2006 For what it's worth, the following is a verbatim quote from KR's editorial page in the most recent N-Soul magazine: (make of that what you will) Going back to the beginning when all this kicked off, I informed KR that the wristbands used in New York were the same colour as Whitby and that another full box was seen waiting to be used. His reply to me on that - "It's none of your business." I thought at the time - what a strange comment!!! This is one of the reasons why he has tried to shut me up, he's now threatened me twice with legal action. (for what - telling the truth?) He's now admitting that there appears to have been more than 1500 wristbands. At the end of the day, we're all adults with our own set of principles and we're all entitled to our opinion. But I for one, will NOT be supporting ANYTHING to do with him again - once bitten, twice shy! Some of us stand up for ourselves as a matter of principle, others, it appears, are happy to be taken for a ride time and time again or perhaps, are just blinded to their rights!! (but that's their choice). Personally, I have found out first hand what this man is capable of and with all the posts relating to Whitby, hopefully many others will now realise as-well.
chrissie Posted August 9, 2006 Posted August 9, 2006 See nobody has bid on the tickets for the weekender on ebay QoFxx The ultimate NORTHERN WEEKENDER Tickets WHITBY
Joto Posted August 9, 2006 Posted August 9, 2006 [not us !! soulixins.co.uk bringing the 1st ever Newquay soul weekender will even give her a free ticket !! ( thats why we don't make any money )
Dendog Posted August 11, 2006 Posted August 11, 2006 (edited) ONE DJ CAME TO OUR VENUE LAST MONTH WITH FLYERS FOR MATLOCK HE WAS TOLD TO TAKE THEM AND SHOVE IT UP KR REAR END OR LEAVE "HE STAYED" I DO HOPE WE CAN ALL STICK TOGETHER WITH THIS ONE DENDOG Edited August 11, 2006 by Dendog
sister dawn Posted August 12, 2006 Posted August 12, 2006 ONE DJ CAME TO OUR VENUE LAST MONTH WITH FLYERS FOR MATLOCK HE WAS TOLD TO TAKE THEM AND SHOVE IT UP KR REAR END OR LEAVE "HE STAYED" I DO HOPE WE CAN ALL STICK TOGETHER WITH THIS ONE DENDOG Excellant Stuff Den, I hope we all stick together too.
Guest Posted August 12, 2006 Posted August 12, 2006 This has turned into a witch hunt now and I'm surprised the modorators have let it go on as long as it has.
sister dawn Posted August 12, 2006 Posted August 12, 2006 This has turned into a witch hunt now and I'm surprised the modorators have let it go on as long as it has. I don't think that is the case here Simon, its about various people sticking together when mates have been subject to abuse both legally and illegally, from someone whom thinks they have the god given right to stop individuals from commenting on an issue that directly involved them, if indeed a witch hunt was started it was by him, trying to get other promotors to "Ban" the individuals who dared to complain.
Guest Posted August 12, 2006 Posted August 12, 2006 Given what does get banned from Soul Source Dawn I'm afraid I think this now has gone on too long. The points have all been made legitimate or not and this all started to look like hysteria a while ago. I don't think that is the case here Simon, its about various people sticking together when mates have been subject to abuse both legally and illegally, from someone whom thinks they have the god given right to stop individuals from commenting on an issue that directly involved them, if indeed a witch hunt was started it was by him, trying to get other promotors to "Ban" the individuals who dared to complain.
sister dawn Posted August 12, 2006 Posted August 12, 2006 Given what does get banned from Soul Source Dawn I'm afraid I think this now has gone on too long. The points have all been made legitimate or not and this all started to look like hysteria a while ago. I disagree on this one, I believe that it should remain open as there are issues that have still to be addressed, and others perhaps feeling that they would like to make comments on this. Also to close it, and forget about it, is what the one who caused all the upset in the first place would prefer.
Guest Posted August 12, 2006 Posted August 12, 2006 Sorry, but that's the witch hunt mentality. Everyone on this forum knows about this now, thread has had over 12,000 views it CLEARLY won't be forgotton, whatever the truth is. What this is really about is the perceived commercialisation of the scared underground mustn't be seen to make a profit, socialist state Northern Soul scene...strange when another thread is running about Northern Soul on BBC Radio 2.
Jumpinjoan Posted August 12, 2006 Posted August 12, 2006 I think this thread is far from a witch hunt..... people just want answers to their questions. Their questions aren't unreasonable.... nor are they unjustified. To completely ignore them is more than a little disrespectful... it proves how little Kev Roberts thinks of the people who's hard earned money he's been taking for years... and sticks two fingers up at them for supporting his events. Saying that as he is no longer a member on here and therefore isn't aware of this thread doesn't wash either..... he was logged on less than 2 days ago.
Guest Baz Posted August 12, 2006 Posted August 12, 2006 What this is really about is the perceived commercialisation of the scared underground mustn't be seen to make a profit, socialist state Northern Soul scene...strange when another thread is running about Northern Soul on BBC Radio 2. Strange you must be reading a completely differnt thread! Thought this thread was about a low life promoter using THIS forum to give people abuse and threaten them with such 'legal' action and banning any one with a veiw on his events.
Guest Posted August 12, 2006 Posted August 12, 2006 Go back to the origins of the thread...it was originally about what happened at Whitby. The thread then turned into a witchunt. The fact that the 'questions' haven't been answered should perhaps be taken as an answer in itself. The point was made long long ago in this thread that people are unhappy with what happened at Whitby (whatever it was..theres still a lot of conjecture and always will be because there are always two sides to every story) and what subsequetly happened on this thread. It's all flogging a dead horse. What 'answers' can really be expected now? What ever is said will be wrong because mind were made up a long time ago. If people feel that strongly they can vote with their feet or their wallets or it starts to look like a witch hunt.
sister dawn Posted August 12, 2006 Posted August 12, 2006 Sorry, but that's the witch hunt mentality. Everyone on this forum knows about this now, thread has had over 12,000 views it CLEARLY won't be forgotton, whatever the truth is. What this is really about is the perceived commercialisation of the scared underground mustn't be seen to make a profit, socialist state Northern Soul scene...strange when another thread is running about Northern Soul on BBC Radio 2. What this is really about in my opinion, is the dispicable treatment that some members of soul source have been subjected too, that have made people angry, its also about the attitude of the said promotor who evidently doesn't give a damn, just so long as a buck is being made regardless of anyone being injured or "locked out" of one of his venues. Its about bully boy tactics that is no longer acceptable in todays society, no matter what you've done for "the past 30 years". No one in the first instance questioned the music, or its policy used within the promotors framework, and I fail to see what connection regarding the listening of "radio 2" has to do in this subject. I also think that despite current members being aware of the thread, it should remain to give those "new or returning" to the scene an informed choice.
Guest Posted August 12, 2006 Posted August 12, 2006 (edited) Or 'witch hunt' as its commonly known. (oh, and just noticed my post reads 'scared' when it should read 'sacred'. Damn my elegant and precious piano players fingers and this clunky old computer keyboard traaaa lllla llla laa) Edited August 12, 2006 by Simon White
Guest Posted August 12, 2006 Posted August 12, 2006 Or 'witch hunt' as its commonly known. (oh, and just noticed my post reads 'scared' when it should read 'sacred'. Damn my elegant and precious piano players fingers and this clunky old computer keyboard traaaa lllla llla laa) Yes,got the dukcing stool ready......................
sister dawn Posted August 12, 2006 Posted August 12, 2006 Yes,got the dukcing stool ready...................... comfortable sort of seat me thinks.
Dendog Posted August 12, 2006 Posted August 12, 2006 (edited) Or 'witch hunt' as its commonly known. (oh, and just noticed my post reads 'scared' when it should read 'sacred'. Damn my elegant and precious piano players fingers and this clunky old computer keyboard traaaa lllla llla laa) Simon my reply to your Q WITCH HUNT A good friend of mine C said that he went to his so called do in the states and was told that he would have some kind of refund as a welcome pack because of the f" up no pack in the states or when he got back witch hunt no way shows the man what he is I run a venue on the same night as Mr God and because of that fact you are possibly reading that Im after his blood your totally wrong I get a good group of Northern Soulies some from over 200 miles and his spies have noticed the crowd is getting bigger and reported to his Royal so I think thats why I got the treatment he gave me earlier this year witch hut just telling as it is Some got a "US" refund pack & consisted of (2 free tickets to - Ilkeston co-op (2 free tickets to - Morecambe (2 free ticket to - Stoke all-nighter can only use one ticket per night (& 2 free ticket to his Birthday day bash Good business man promoting his own venues at what cost to others???? or just telling as it is Whitbygate A Good business man will always say can we squeez any more, but its not about Whitby is it ? dendog Edited August 12, 2006 by Dendog
pikeys dog Posted August 12, 2006 Posted August 12, 2006 Some got a "US" refund pack & consisted of (2 free tickets to - Ilkeston co-op (2 free tickets to - Morecambe (2 free ticket to - Stoke all-nighter can only use one ticket per night ( 2 free ticket to his Birthday day bash dendog Avast 8 Free pieces of bog paper? More than anyone will get from the Whiby Fiasco.... Yarr.
Dendog Posted August 12, 2006 Posted August 12, 2006 Avast 8 Free pieces of bog paper? More than anyone will get from the Whiby Fiasco.... Yarr. NICE ONE
Davemac3 Posted August 16, 2006 Posted August 16, 2006 Just got back from holiday and read this thread with interest. I gave up supporting anything to do with Kev Roberts severals ago when I "won" a competition on his radio show but the prizes changed after I had won!!! My brother also heard a recording of the show on a different Radio station and confirmed what I thought I'd won. When I mentioned this to KR we were both banned from entering future competitions ????? I told him to keep the prizes and have kept away ever since.
Bazza Posted August 17, 2006 Posted August 17, 2006 (edited) To completely ignore them is more than a little disrespectful... it proves how little Kev Roberts thinks of the people who's hard earned money he's been taking for years... and sticks two fingers up at them for supporting his events. Saying that as he is no longer a member on here and therefore isn't aware of this thread doesn't wash either..... he was logged on less than 2 days ago. You dont have to be a member to read the threads ,he could be lurking on here every day, I very much hope he is Bazza Edited August 17, 2006 by bazza
Dendog Posted August 17, 2006 Posted August 17, 2006 To completely ignore them is more than a little disrespectful... it proves how little Kev Roberts thinks of the people who's hard earned money he's been taking for years... and sticks two fingers up at them for supporting his events. Saying that as he is no longer a member on here and therefore isn't aware of this thread doesn't wash either..... he was logged on less than 2 days ago. You dont have to be a member to read the threads ,he could be lurking on here every day, I very much hope he is Bazza Yes KR doesn't miss a trick but its over and out with me we must be sad old dogs, its like being back at school tit for tat all because of free speech not being allowed COMPLIMENTARY PASSES??? BUT AFTER WHAT WENT OFF WHO WANTS ONE? KEV IF YOU ARE READING THIS GIVE MINE TO ONE OF YOUR SPY'S My last word on this is We love you Mag's KEEP YOUR CHIN UP GIRL xxxxxx dendog
Little-stevie Posted August 17, 2006 Posted August 17, 2006 (edited) At least this topic gives people a chance to really see what KRL is about..At the end of the day the man got NO RESPECT for people and sees them as another ticket only...I have no problem with promoters making a living/profit out of the soul scene,its hard work putting events together and takes a lot of time and energy.. This post is a look at the man who not only wants to swamp the scene with large scale revival nights in many towns with established soul nights and show little regard to the local promoters...This is the large supermarket coming to your town and the corner shop going out of business....The man in the corner shop as not got a chance on is own and thats why this topic and this forum are here....Soul source is collection of corner shops and the people who shop there,if we all come together then we can tell mr Tesco that we are staying open and offer something extra to our customers...When was the last time you could have a chat with the boss at the supermarket and share a joke or two....I know that Kev will be lurking and looking at this topic,will he come back with any answers about Whitby Gate,No.......He will be looking at other ways of bringing in the cash to keep the king of the castle happy...If the circus comes to your town then tell the ringmaster,no thanks we know that you treat your customers, just like the animals... My freinds paid good money for a weekend in Whitby and got spat at for asking a few questions...The only reply was an email to say you are banned from all my shows in the future...He thought these women would stop asking questions but they stood up and said no way Mr Roberts,you have gone tooooooooooooo far... Like the song says."shop around" and see whats on offer,don't just go towards the bright lights of the supermarket..You will put a pound in the trolley and then find it dont work..You then ask the manager for another pound and he says "go away and your are banned from this store and all my other stores".... Love and peace...Rev...Kenny Lynch.. Edited August 17, 2006 by little-stevie
Pete S Posted August 17, 2006 Posted August 17, 2006 At least this topic gives people a chance to really see what KRL is about..At the end of the day the man got NO RESPECT for people and sees them as another ticket only...I have no problem with promoters making a living/profit out of the soul scene,its hard work putting events together and takes a lot of time and energy.. This post is a look at the man who not only wants to swamp the scene with large scale revival nights in many towns with established soul nights and show little regard to the local promoters...This is the large supermarket coming to your town and the corner shop going out of business....The man in the corner shop as not got a chance on is own and thats why this topic and this forum are here....Soul source is collection of corner shops and the people who shop there,if we all come together then we can tell mr Tesco that we are staying open and offer something extra to our customers...When was the last time you could have a chat with the boss at the supermarket and share a joke or two....I know that Kev will be lurking and looking at this topic,will he come back with any answers about Whitby Gate,No.......He will be looking at other ways of bringing in the cash to keep the king of the castle happy...If the circus comes to your town then tell the ringmaster,no thanks we know that you treat your customers, just like the animals... My freinds paid good money for a weekend in Whitby and got spat at for asking a few questions...The only reply was an email to say you are banned from all my shows in the future...He thought these women would stop asking questions but they stood up and said no way Mr Roberts,you have gone tooooooooooooo far... Like the song says."shop around" and see whats on offer,don't just go towards the bright lights of the supermarket..You will put a pound in the trolley and then find it dont work..You then ask the manager for another pound and he says "go away and your are banned from this store and all my other stores".... Love and peace...Rev...Kenny Lynch.. That was a great post rev Kenny and a really good analogy
Guest Posted August 17, 2006 Posted August 17, 2006 I think the points have been made....legitimate or not you choose.....and the thread has served it's purpose, the job has been done. 'Vote with your feet' but.......... the thread keeps going over and over and over.the same ground...thats why I'm saying its looking like a witch hunt. Maybe it's human nature, if so I'm glad I'm an alien. Whats that James Carr song...'Pouring Water On A Drowning Man'
Jumpinjoan Posted August 17, 2006 Posted August 17, 2006 At least this topic gives people a chance to really see what KRL is about..At the end of the day the man got NO RESPECT for people and sees them as another ticket only...I have no problem with promoters making a living/profit out of the soul scene,its hard work putting events together and takes a lot of time and energy.. This post is a look at the man who not only wants to swamp the scene with large scale revival nights in many towns with established soul nights and show little regard to the local promoters...This is the large supermarket coming to your town and the corner shop going out of business....The man in the corner shop as not got a chance on is own and thats why this topic and this forum are here....Soul source is collection of corner shops and the people who shop there,if we all come together then we can tell mr Tesco that we are staying open and offer something extra to our customers...When was the last time you could have a chat with the boss at the supermarket and share a joke or two....I know that Kev will be lurking and looking at this topic,will he come back with any answers about Whitby Gate,No.......He will be looking at other ways of bringing in the cash to keep the king of the castle happy...If the circus comes to your town then tell the ringmaster,no thanks we know that you treat your customers, just like the animals... My freinds paid good money for a weekend in Whitby and got spat at for asking a few questions...The only reply was an email to say you are banned from all my shows in the future...He thought these women would stop asking questions but they stood up and said no way Mr Roberts,you have gone tooooooooooooo far... Like the song says."shop around" and see whats on offer,don't just go towards the bright lights of the supermarket..You will put a pound in the trolley and then find it dont work..You then ask the manager for another pound and he says "go away and your are banned from this store and all my other stores".... Love and peace...Rev...Kenny Lynch.. Nice one Boss
Jumpinjoan Posted August 17, 2006 Posted August 17, 2006 You dont have to be a member to read the threads ,he could be lurking on here every day, I very much hope he is Bazza Yes i am quite aware of that fact thankyou Bazza.... but he had logged in using his own account.... hasn't done since though... funny that...
Bazza Posted August 17, 2006 Posted August 17, 2006 Yes i am quite aware of that fact thankyou Bazza.... but he had logged in using his own account.... hasn't done since though... funny that... He must be itching to say his piece,but he has probably realised that every time he opens his mouth ,he puts his foot deeper in it Bazza
Mike Posted August 17, 2006 Author Posted August 17, 2006 post deleted ask that all avoid out and out abuse ta mike
Rich Buckley Posted August 17, 2006 Posted August 17, 2006 I think the points have been made....legitimate or not you choose.....and the thread has served it's purpose, the job has been done. 'Vote with your feet' but.......... the thread keeps going over and over and over.the same ground...thats why I'm saying its looking like a witch hunt. Maybe it's human nature, if so I'm glad I'm an alien. Whats that James Carr song...'Pouring Water On A Drowning Man' Simon, how can it be a witch hunt when KR has been asked very nicely several times over from people who were at Whitby (and some locked out) to answer legitimate questions posed by his paying customers? It's not good enough saying he's chosen to resign his account from Soul Source. I know Mags & Kirsty personally as do many others on the soul scene and they are genuine, nice people and not trouble makers in any way, shape or form. Both were subjected to bullying emails and in Mags' case a bullying letter from KR, threatening legal action against her purely for the post her friend put up on the Whitby thread. Read her post yourself. As for threatening PMs to Kirsty, do you condone that or think it's right? She's a paying punter remember and cannot in any way be part of the anti-KR or anti-making money brigade. Read Kirsty's posts which asked legitimate questions relating to her friends being locked out(Kirsty was inside). KR's PMs were threatening and bullying. This could all have ended ages ago had KR come on here and explained and answered the legitimate questions posed, so claimimg it is a "witch hunt" is frankly bollocks and I wish you'd stop whining on about it. It can't be a witch hunt when he's offered the chance to put his side of the story but refuses and in so doing shows total disrespect for his paying customers. To my mind, the following need answering: 1. How many wristbands were there and how many tickets were sold by KR? 2. Once the situation had started, why did nobody take down the names and addresses of the punters outside? This would have at least placated some people. As it is, there are numerous people who had paid for tickets who were locked out and whose names and addresses were never taken. Please explain why this wasn't done (as Kirsty legitimately and politely asked in her first post). If people bought a ticket legitimately and were locked out, names not taken and not been offered a refund then that is clearly a breach of contract. If the situation was too volatile on the night for KR to go outside and take down the names personally, what has been done since by the promoters to try and trace these innocent punters? It's clear from the thread that lots of people at the event loved it and enjoyed it, albeit they were not involved in being locked out. Mark 65 posted "However the situation on Saturday night spoilt it for me and I along with my 5 friends decided to leave when Kev asked for volunteers, and on getting up on Sunday morning headed straight home as the enjoyment had gone. On speaking with Kev on Saturday night before I left he gave us his 'cast iron guarantee' that we would receive a full refund, yet no comment is made of this in the news article I have just read." - I'd be interested to know, has Mark 65 been given a full refund?? Mark 65 are you reading this? Are there people on here that were locked out and have not been offered a refund? 3. Clearly anyone selling forged tickets is a scumbag (as are the soulies who purchased them) and should be banned from everywhere. Is it true the court case is now over? If so, what was the result (a name and the court where it was heard would be great so we can verify) and has it been established exactly how many he sold? Is it true as has been suggested he had all his money (found on him) returned to him? As KR himself said in the thread "We cannot answer the question until the Police and Security have delivered us a full report". Well now the case is allegedly over, let's have the answers then. 4. Even if the whole fiasco was entirely down to the forger, surely surely surely, KR & Snowy should have said the simple words "I'm Sorry" to their legitimate paying punters (even though it was mostly out of their control (if it was)). Not once has this been said. Once it was public knowledge what KR had PM'd to Kirsty, he relented slightly and said she wasn't banned for life, but did not once mutter the simple words "I'm sorry". Bullying paying punters and then not saying sorry is in my opinion pretty awful. At the very least, this has been handled pretty badly in my opinion in terms of innocent paying punters being locked out and names and addresses not taken. As Pete S said ages ago, this could be sorted very quickly if KR came back on here and answered the specific questions and points raised. I have no axe to grind with KR, but anyone reading these threads can see that points need answering (that were initially presented in a legitimate and polite manner). Carte blanche refusing to comment does nobody any good and just leaves people frustrated and angry and aggrieved if they were one of the victims. I'd urge KR and Snowy to simply come on here and answer the points raised and then maybe we can all move forward constructively and get some recompense for the innocent victims and stop speculating as to what really happened. Over to you KR and Snowy.... Rich
Trev Thomas Posted August 17, 2006 Posted August 17, 2006 post deleted ask that all avoid out and out abuse ta mike sorry
Ged Parker Posted August 17, 2006 Posted August 17, 2006 sorry See Kev it isn't that difficult. You could just cut and paste the above.
Guest Posted August 17, 2006 Posted August 17, 2006 Simon, how can it be a witch hunt when KR has been asked very nicely several times over from people who were at Whitby (and some locked out) to answer legitimate questions posed by his paying customers? It's not good enough saying he's chosen to resign his account from Soul Source. I know Mags & Kirsty personally as do many others on the soul scene and they are genuine, nice people and not trouble makers in any way, shape or form. Both were subjected to bullying emails and in Mags' case a bullying letter from KR, threatening legal action against her purely for the post her friend put up on the Whitby thread. Read her post yourself. As for threatening PMs to Kirsty, do you condone that or think it's right? She's a paying punter remember and cannot in any way be part of the anti-KR or anti-making money brigade. Read Kirsty's posts which asked legitimate questions relating to her friends being locked out(Kirsty was inside). KR's PMs were threatening and bullying. This could all have ended ages ago had KR come on here and explained and answered the legitimate questions posed, so claimimg it is a "witch hunt" is frankly bollocks and I wish you'd stop whining on about it. It can't be a witch hunt when he's offered the chance to put his side of the story but refuses and in so doing shows total disrespect for his paying customers. To my mind, the following need answering: 1. How many wristbands were there and how many tickets were sold by KR? 2. Once the situation had started, why did nobody take down the names and addresses of the punters outside? This would have at least placated some people. As it is, there are numerous people who had paid for tickets who were locked out and whose names and addresses were never taken. Please explain why this wasn't done (as Kirsty legitimately and politely asked in her first post). If people bought a ticket legitimately and were locked out, names not taken and not been offered a refund then that is clearly a breach of contract. If the situation was too volatile on the night for KR to go outside and take down the names personally, what has been done since by the promoters to try and trace these innocent punters? It's clear from the thread that lots of people at the event loved it and enjoyed it, albeit they were not involved in being locked out. Mark 65 posted "However the situation on Saturday night spoilt it for me and I along with my 5 friends decided to leave when Kev asked for volunteers, and on getting up on Sunday morning headed straight home as the enjoyment had gone. On speaking with Kev on Saturday night before I left he gave us his 'cast iron guarantee' that we would receive a full refund, yet no comment is made of this in the news article I have just read." - I'd be interested to know, has Mark 65 been given a full refund?? Mark 65 are you reading this? Are there people on here that were locked out and have not been offered a refund? 3. Clearly anyone selling forged tickets is a scumbag (as are the soulies who purchased them) and should be banned from everywhere. Is it true the court case is now over? If so, what was the result (a name and the court where it was heard would be great so we can verify) and has it been established exactly how many he sold? Is it true as has been suggested he had all his money (found on him) returned to him? As KR himself said in the thread "We cannot answer the question until the Police and Security have delivered us a full report". Well now the case is allegedly over, let's have the answers then. 4. Even if the whole fiasco was entirely down to the forger, surely surely surely, KR & Snowy should have said the simple words "I'm Sorry" to their legitimate paying punters (even though it was mostly out of their control (if it was)). Not once has this been said. Once it was public knowledge what KR had PM'd to Kirsty, he relented slightly and said she wasn't banned for life, but did not once mutter the simple words "I'm sorry". Bullying paying punters and then not saying sorry is in my opinion pretty awful. At the very least, this has been handled pretty badly in my opinion in terms of innocent paying punters being locked out and names and addresses not taken. As Pete S said ages ago, this could be sorted very quickly if KR came back on here and answered the specific questions and points raised. I have no axe to grind with KR, but anyone reading these threads can see that points need answering (that were initially presented in a legitimate and polite manner). Carte blanche refusing to comment does nobody any good and just leaves people frustrated and angry and aggrieved if they were one of the victims. I'd urge KR and Snowy to simply come on here and answer the points raised and then maybe we can all move forward constructively and get some recompense for the innocent victims and stop speculating as to what really happened. Over to you KR and Snowy.... Rich Rich These are my thoughts exactly, absolutely in a nutshell. As far as I can see there are one of 2 people that can put an end to this, KR or Snowy. Once these have been answered the matter is finished as far as I am concerned. Kirstyx
sister dawn Posted August 17, 2006 Posted August 17, 2006 My sentiments too Kirsty, although i think it more apt to let KR do it rather than Snowy.
Guest Posted August 17, 2006 Posted August 17, 2006 Yes KR doesn't miss a trick but its over and out with me we must be sad old dogs, its like being back at school tit for tat all because of free speech not being allowed COMPLIMENTARY PASSES??? BUT AFTER WHAT WENT OFF WHO WANTS ONE? KEV IF YOU ARE READING THIS GIVE MINE TO ONE OF YOUR SPY'S My last word on this is We love you Mag's KEEP YOUR CHIN UP GIRL xxxxxx dendog Thanks for that, that's really sweet and thanks to all the "sane" people out there, because of them my chin is well and truly up. Just out of curiosity - I wonder how many of those people who KR promised refunds etc to, have actually got anything yet! I will await all your replies (but won't hold my breathe).
Ray Copley Posted August 21, 2006 Posted August 21, 2006 Hi Mags Just a note to let everyone know that we got a registered envelope from Goldsoul and in it was two vouchers for next years Whitby value £30 each ! The vouchers state that you have to collect your tickets at the venue and to bring with you proof of address and photo id. We obviously got the vouchers because when KR would'nt come to the door to explain what was happening, eventually Snowy came to try and calm things down, at that time loads of us put our names and addresses on the back of flyers as Snowy said he would try to sort us a refund out. Inside the registered envelope were two vouchers and three flyers ! The most important thing that should have been in the envelope was'nt ! "An Apology"
chrissie Posted August 21, 2006 Posted August 21, 2006 Hi Mags Just a note to let everyone know that we got a registered envelope from Goldsoul and in it was two vouchers for next years Whitby value £30 each ! The vouchers state that you have to collect your tickets at the venue and to bring with you proof of address and photo id. We obviously got the vouchers because when KR would'nt come to the door to explain what was happening, eventually Snowy came to try and calm things down, at that time loads of us put our names and addresses on the back of flyers as Snowy said he would try to sort us a refund out. Inside the registered envelope were two vouchers and three flyers ! The most important thing that should have been in the envelope was'nt ! "An Apology" Out of interest, after all that has hapened and the lack of appology, will you still go? QoFxx
Ray Copley Posted August 21, 2006 Posted August 21, 2006 Out of interest, after all that has hapened and the lack of appology, will you still go? QoFxx Hi Not a Cat in Hells Chance !! Would be letting myself , my wife and alot of good pals down !! No Way !!
SteveM Posted August 21, 2006 Posted August 21, 2006 Hi Mags Just a note to let everyone know that we got a registered envelope from Goldsoul and in it was two vouchers for next years Whitby value £30 each ! The vouchers state that you have to collect your tickets at the venue and to bring with you proof of address and photo id. We obviously got the vouchers because when KR would'nt come to the door to explain what was happening, eventually Snowy came to try and calm things down, at that time loads of us put our names and addresses on the back of flyers as Snowy said he would try to sort us a refund out. Inside the registered envelope were two vouchers and three flyers ! The most important thing that should have been in the envelope was'nt ! "An Apology" You're banned anyway He just doesn't know your name Smiffy
Ray Copley Posted August 21, 2006 Posted August 21, 2006 You're banned anyway He just doesn't know your name Smiffy Now Now Steve your only jealous We de da's must stick together !
Guest Posted August 21, 2006 Posted August 21, 2006 I've stayed out of this as I didn't go to Whitby, however 1- someone PLEASE laod up KR's email addy and those that want compensation go for him, some folk are getting a tad bored with the same ole same ole. 2- Those who have been advocating a boycott of KR;s events, fair play to ya however he does have a following and those that wish to keep on supporting him, 'keep on keeping on' 3- I like Kev Roberts though the way he and others connected with him has been poor, I hope he learns from his mistakes. Lets ALL move on and look forward to this weekends offerings whereever you may live. Cya PD
Ray Copley Posted August 21, 2006 Posted August 21, 2006 I've stayed out of this as I didn't go to Whitby, however 1- someone PLEASE laod up KR's email addy and those that want compensation go for him, some folk are getting a tad bored with the same ole same ole. 2- Those who have been advocating a boycott of KR;s events, fair play to ya however he does have a following and those that wish to keep on supporting him, 'keep on keeping on' 3- I like Kev Roberts though the way he and others connected with him has been poor, I hope he learns from his mistakes. Lets ALL move on and look forward to this weekends offerings whereever you may live. Cya PD I agree with you ! I was one of the first to post at the begining of the Whitby threads putting a post on for a friend ! Since then I've read all posts and would think KR now wishes he could turn the clock back ! Your 100% right we should all now put this one to bed ! Everybody as there own views and they've all been aired so people should now go with there own discissions. This will be my last post on any Whitby topic and I hope all will follow ! Regards to all !
Guest biggray1 Posted August 21, 2006 Posted August 21, 2006 I think the points have been made....legitimate or not you choose.....and the thread has served it's purpose, the job has been done. 'Vote with your feet' but.......... the thread keeps going over and over and over.the same ground...thats why I'm saying its looking like a witch hunt. Maybe it's human nature, if so I'm glad I'm an alien. Whats that James Carr song...'Pouring Water On A Drowning Man' Simon please feel free to go and read another thread..Your comments are true but this thread is ongoing for one reason..ie we wont lie down and let Krl kick us to death..its our scene and he aint takin it from us...You all keep this thread alive..he is lurkin about
Guest Posted August 21, 2006 Posted August 21, 2006 I agree with you ! I was one of the first to post at the begining of the Whitby threads putting a post on for a friend ! Since then I've read all posts and would think KR now wishes he could turn the clock back ! Your 100% right we should all now put this one to bed ! Everybody as there own views and they've all been aired so people should now go with there own discissions. This will be my last post on any Whitby topic and I hope all will follow ! Regards to all ! - someone PLEASE laod up KR's email addy and those that want compensation go for him, some folk are getting a tad bored with the same ole same ole. 2- Those who have been advocating a boycott of KR;s events, fair play to ya however he does have a following and those that wish to keep on supporting him, 'keep on keeping on' 3- I like Kev Roberts though the way he and others connected with him has been poor, I hope he learns from his mistakes. Lets ALL move on and look forward to this weekends offerings whereever you may live. Cya PD Never thought i would ever say this.................whatever!!
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