JOE TORQUAY Posted July 23, 2014 Posted July 23, 2014 Chuck Flamingo What's My Chances C/w No One To Call My Own Chuck Flamingo makes his Manship Auction Debut! Today is a treat, playing a record, that not many can boast if owning; this is after all a legendary 45 being quite easily the rarest, most sought 45 on this highly regarded New York label. For as long as I can remember the rarity pedigree has been on proven time and time again, as it is literally decades or more before i see another copy. Always making it fresh to hear and a delight to see Refresh yourself with this exhilarating Northern Soul dancer, with musclebound horn intro lifted by shrill girls answer chorus before Chuck vocal clicks into the addictive rhythm, those girl keep going then one of those value-changing saxophone breaks that lift a great tune onto a higher level. All components holler NORTHERN SOUL - rarity suggest do not pass by - when will another become accessible..,is the question. Vinyl is immaculate - please scrutinize the labels - this copy came to the UK in the mid 60s as a promo to a DJ who “scored” every record label to ensure in didn’t “slip” on radio - inane I know but I’ve had many records that have traveled this journey. It’s discreet and does not detract too much from it’s huge desirability. footnote: the Deep Soul flipside writer credit paints the most vivid picture of a perhaps Rojac Records employee - as the writer names herself as “Mistreated Eadie” Sorry, this item has already been won! The winning bid was £ 876.00 James West Hanging Out C/w Every Knock's A Boost, Child It matters not which side you drop the arm on you are served with down and down -right dirty FUNK The side the label chose as the “A” has rap into chanting over a swirling greasy hammond rhythm, then the “murky” Saxophone joins the party, escalating the atmosphere from a stroll to hard Funk jog. Decidedly different and utterly compelling stuff. But flip it for in my opinion the best side, as arranger George Benson Jazz, Funk and Psyche into an impressively moody but totally defiant slab of New York FUNK! Impressive hammond, guitar and sax and an “out of it” vocal.. . what’s not to love? Sorry, this item has already been won! The winning bid was £ 122.00 Carolyn Crawford I'll Come Running - Alternative Take A Unique Motown acetate capturing 15 year old Carolyn Crawford booming out a alternative take on the MOTOWN 1064 release. On this one-off this take Earl Van Dyke is in thumping form on the organ, as he supports the Ms Crawford ear-piercing vocal. Just love the way “The Earl” drops back into his Jazz roots pulling out all the stops delivery a wild backing to what is a truly exceptional young-girl vocal. The keyboard work not featured on the more-commercially constructed release, is outrageous paino and organ weld together from the off but at no stage drown the lead vocal. The Motown Sound with a sprinkling of Jazzy improvisation. Brilliant and most likely One-Of-A-Kind.. Sorry, this item has already been won! The winning bid was £ 246.00 The Icemen It's Time You Knew The genius of Eddie Singleton - his ability to craft the perfect 60s Soul dance tune, for ground-level artists & labels is quite staggering. This Hudson River crossing flows from speakers in a gush of flawlessly arranged male vocals driven but subtly pitched horns. Relentless, inspiring vocal group Northern Soul rolling at exactly to right pace inviting the lazy Northern Soul glide. A recording to immerse yourself in, soak up all the atmosphere it’s saturated in. A real jewel of a tune that has escaped all forms of vinyl bootlegging.. which in itself is proof of elusiveness. Seldom seen for sale and begging for a long overdue revisit. Having sung it’s Northern Soul qualities, the NS collector can expect competition from the Sweet Harmony collectors as the flipside alters it’s stride and falls into a lavish “Impressions” inspired mid-tempo groove. Two sides to die-for..but what else could you expect if Eddie Singleton, George Kerr, Richard Tee & Richard Poindexter collaborate, with a dash of female know-how coming from Daisy Holland. This copy is super-clean, two labels are spotless, the vinyl is a clean M-. Sorry, this item has already been won! The winning bid was £ 363.00 Martineques If You Want To Call Me Some records drip with soulful-superiority!! A more delicious record I’ve not listed in memory - for me it has everything I adore about a rare Northern Soul Recording. This Andy Dennison cover-up as “The 3 Jades” has remained rare enough long enough to deprive us Sasanacs of this truly formidable tune It screams rarity.. as we hear it oh so little, unless we are being pleasured by the likes of Cliff Steele or Kitch behind the English turntables. Records of this stratospheric quality sadly so infrequently come to market, consequently few NS Jocks own a copy. In short - it is the most beautifully constructed soul-experience to sit on my desk in a very long time! Luxuriously silky vocals fuse then glide over a simplistic Thurman Hollis production adding layer after layer of highly honed harmony soul.. If like me vocal-group harmony Northern soul is your bag - it doesn’t ever, get any better than this. Condition is just perfect!! Sorry, this item has already been won! The winning bid was £ 715.00 R & B Scene Volume 1. No. 6 - April 1965 The R&B Scene - the incredibly hard to find “Birth Of Northern Soul” fanzine conceived by Roger Eagle in 1963. I always turn to those fabulous “Twisted Wheel” forthcoming artists ads on the back cover. Front cover underlines how dedicated Roger was, by digging deep for his articles; Chuck Berry & James Brown may seem obvious choices for the time. But how about writing bios on Lazy Lester, Homesick James, Willie Mabon & Screamin’ Jay Hawkins. But as I leafed through these archibvasl pages I was in for a very pleasant surprise indeed. THE ST. LOUIS UNION who hasd billed themselves as playing the “Northern Soul Sound” in previous R&B Scene adverts had autographed their page. All six member Tony Cassidy, Dave Tomlinson, Keith Millar, John Nichols, Dave Webb, Alex Kirby have all put their moniker on this 49 year old artifact. Signed at he Twisted Wheel - this has gotta be a Northern Soul Hall Of Fame candidate..The first British Group to quote the term “Northern Soul” all signing at The Twisted Wheel in this iconic glossy fanzine, the first mag for the term “Northern Soul Scene” to ever be in print… I’m humbled… Sorry, this item has already been won! The winning bid was £ 39.00 California Playboys Trying To Become A Millionaire W. C. Stone’s long standing San Francisco label put together a Five Man Band using his own long term session men to create one of the world’s most-wanted Soul albums, as it includes not one but fully four killer Northern Soul dance cut that never achieved 45 release. Good friend and legend record dealer Rip Lay acquired the whole of the Loadstone and distributed vinyl in one hit, back in the late 70s. But whilst trawling though multiple boxes of the Loadstone stock, I never saw this very limited release amongst it, even though Rip’s warehouse back then was an essential annual dig… Check out the highly impressive sound file of 4 we chose. Trying To Be A Millionaire - mixing fluid vocals spiced up with a little Latin, driving subtle Funk undertones and lively crisp vocal - this is Brilliant! 2.Double Love - a spectacular reworking of the 1963 Loadstone recording by The Chandeliers, inspiring Lennell Salone guitar licks lift this dancer up and beyond. Just Say A Four Letter Word - Many consider this the best track, it is one to take a few listen then it just grows on you - indelible vocal group Northern Soul. I’ve Got To Find Myself Another Girl - we’ve recorded to show how loosely fitting Sweet Soul ballads really work as the clarity of the vocals is heighten by the lack of overpowering back tracks. Supremely naive and beautifully delivered ans the lad vocal sounds like Roshell Anderson. The other two tracks are every note as good - such a highly talented band of musicians who with the presence of Bay Area studio Prince - W.C. Stone crafted something extraordinarily special that day in 1976. Sorry, this item has already been won! The winning bid was £ 530.00 Big Al Downing Yes I'm Loving You C/w Please Come Home SUE! just one word could do it! Sorry, this item has already been won! The winning bid was £ 100.00 Various Artists Tamla Special #1 MOTOWN COLLECTORS ALERT! The very beginnings of what was to become a worldwide record collectors addiction. THE MOTOWN COMPILATION ALBUM. This is the one that started it all; The first compilation album featuring the 10 tracks of the records that ignited the spectacular success, never before witnessed within the jungle of USA independent Record Labels. Stunning “Pop-Art” front cover. Back cover is decorated with four impressive artist black and white pics. Including the seldom seen Singin’ Sammy Ward & Sherri Taylor pose. Inside the cover the LP retains the EXTREMELY RARE Motown album-adverts inner sleeve including the withdrawn Supremes “Bar Stool” cover image. Original WHITE & BLUE labels. All of it in gorgeous condition, light age-browning to the back is it’s only flaw.. when are you gonna find a finer copy of an history making platter of this calibre. MOTOWN MUST!! Sorry, this item has already been won! The winning bid was £ 154.00 Jackie Avery Understanding C/w I Got Love CONDITION CONDITION CONDITION Unplayed until today - we have spoken many times about “Katrina” and the devastating effect it had on New Orleans. So how pleasing is it to hold a near 50 year old Dover distributed 45 still in its original birth-state. For a change we’ll open with the highly regarded “Deep Soul” side, and leave the snapping, snarling beast of Northern Soul to the last. Funeral paced Louisianan Deep Soul supported by subtle bluesy guitar licks and some wonderfully controlled horns, that blow just loud enough to deepen the sorrow but leaving Jackie Avery’s tonsils to gargle away his despair, capturing every expression of pain in his voice, a perfect example of the genre. Flip it over, Jackie will lift you onto your feet as gentle rattle of the drum rim is a prelude for some serious blasting-horns clearing a path for Jackie to strut his vocal range. His dominant, authoritative delivery of the lyrics is met note for by hard, hard blowing and squealing ladies. As punchy as it get.. too great Soul sides and condition is unbelievable. Sorry, this item has already been won! The winning bid was £ 131.00 Pookie Hudson This Gets To Me This Weeks near perfect timeless Northern Soul classic comes in the form of a simultaneous Cleethorpes Pier & Wigan Casino monster. Single-handedly due to the fact John Anderson of Soul Bowl was feeding the DJ’s of both iconic clubs from his rich vein of unrivaled USA vinyl. With the power of nearly all Casino & Pier DJ’s playing it, “Pookie” was an overnight sensation. I can remember “”the Pier” floor rammed, the hall seemly bouncing to the “Bob Finiz” created vibe littered production. THIS IS NORTHERN SOUL and this copy flawless. Sorry, this item has already been won! The winning bid was £ 384.00 Barry St. John Everything I Touch Turns To Tears I was prompted to list this dazzling 1966 Red & White DEMO today after seeing some yesteryear photos on Face Book of the Northern Soul champion of the British release DJ Nev Wherry who tragically died young. Nev’s passion for the rare British 45, spilled over into his Cleethorpes Winter Garden sets where he would brandish his matchless Record Boxes rammed with UK demo’s on one side, and rare Northern Soul the other. Some records you just associate with certain DJ’s - William Bell’s - Happy - was “Bubs” tune, Barry St. John - Everything I Touch Turns To Tears - we will always associate with Nev Wherry. Two sadly deceased DJ who presence comes flooding back every time a “theme Tune” is played. British ONLY, rare and irresistible as the Red n’ White. Tiny sticker removal “spot” on right hand bottom of label. Vinyl is clean, with some minuscule light surface blemishes in strong light. As you can hear it plays perfect and as you can see it’s beauty just glows from the screen. Sorry, this item has already been won! The winning bid was £ 155.00 Diana Ross & The Supremes Love Child Every Wednesday our aim is to present the Soul collector not only with the opportunity to acquire fine condition rare 45s but also make it an interesting read, a colourful vista and present a few conversation pieces. This 45 fits that criteria perfectly. This listing is aimed directly at the British Tamla Motown completist, the dcedicated TMG enthusiast who has the burning desire to own every last one of these Tamla Motown Black & silvers. Presented today is the insanely RARE 1968 special promo invitation record sent out by EMI as a V.I.P. invite for the after-party at EMI House of fabled 18th. November 1968 ROYAL COMMAND PERFORMANCE show. Fabled, because Diana Ross used some of her stage time to give a poignant tribute to Martin Luther King, who had been assassinated in Memphis only 7 months earlier. Bringing to the British public an unprecedented awareness on the Amercian Black Civil Rights Movement. This “Record Invite” you will notice has a special dotted line for the recipients name to be added in pencil (the lucky man was David Griffiths) Historical on so many levels - it is unclear how many were made, mailed or even survive to go home that night. But we can say it is “Rain-Bird Rare” and the very first copy we have ever auctioned - ever. not quite sure what Eric & Ernie thought about it from the wings awaiting to perform as “Top Of The Bill” @ The London Palladium… Diana Ross stole the pairs thunder, and the girls are the ones remembered from that history making night… Sorry, this item has already been won! The winning bid was £ 164.00 Four Larks Groovin' At He Go-go C/w I Still Love You (from The Bottom Of My Heart) Back in the mid-70s when most-all of us with blinkered haste chased only what the DJ’s were currently playing; one perky Ginger-Chap from York ran against the crowd; brightening up the East Coast Niter by flashing his newly secured Canadian Alice Clark or South African Patti Austin, even a Dutch Paul Sindab. Ronnie Pedley loved his weird and wonderful Northern Soul oddities and was dedicated to them. This trend over the following decades has caught on, now having a huge appreciative culture. Collecting Rare Northern Soul vinyl has no boundaries, the weird, the rare, The previously unknown,even the thought not to exists are found and our adrenaline rush, our craving and record-lust is quenched for a fleeting moment. Before you today is not only a timeless Northern Classic, backed with one of the finest Philly Girl-Group dancers ever forged; the double-sider that lifted the production team of “Harthon” into the Northern Soul collectors vocabulary. This is absolutely it’s RAREST FORM! 1966 Philippines vinyl-press PROMO! Personally I never knew it existed… for the time being my thirst for the seriously rare has been quenched…leaving the question, does Ronnie “The King” of the Foreign release Northern Soul own a copy? Sorry, this item has already been won! The winning bid was £ 221.00 Shades Of Sensation But Then You Left Me C/w Everyday Thing This weeks offering to the Sweet Soul Zealot, is a dreamy falsetto smorgasbord; a hugely appetizing feast of icy-cool vocals soaring aloft on a primitive but highly effective arrangement. The D.I.Y. underdeveloped urban-Soul has a charm all of it’s own, putting extreme rarity aside; this session ripples with after-school dreams of making it big, and these guys had everything, except exposure to do just that. Highly honed vocals knit together into one pool of ascending-cool. Then if you flip it over - what a surprise.. A honking Hammond Boo-Ga-Loo instrumental borrowing some riffs from “Chain Gang” and serving up an obvious and previously “unknown” candidate for club-spins, those DJ’s digging below the surface are looking for. Two great but contrasting sides, on one extremely rare disc… Sorry, this item has already been won! The winning bid was £ 66.00
Pete S Posted July 23, 2014 Posted July 23, 2014 I auctioned one of those Tamla Motown invitation singles on eBay a few years ago, can't remember what it went for exactly but didn't go above £50 I think.
Pete S Posted July 23, 2014 Posted July 23, 2014 £155 for Barry St John...good price Good as in for the seller or buyer? It's not worth anymore than £150...
Lionelonthevinyl Posted July 23, 2014 Posted July 23, 2014 Was chuck flamingo a decent price? I've not seen one sold so have no idea....i think its a great record so interested.....thank you.....Rob
Quinvy Posted July 23, 2014 Posted July 23, 2014 Martineques went for more on eBay. In fact one fetched around £900 recently if I remember rightly. 1
Dazz Posted July 23, 2014 Posted July 23, 2014 James West Hanging Out tune made me laugh, conjured up a memory from the Cheech & Chong film 'Up in Smoke' see what you think https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=898uBibM9O8
Labeat Posted July 23, 2014 Posted July 23, 2014 Good as in for the seller or buyer? It's not worth anymore than £150... So does that mean it's gone for a fiver more than it's worth? Welcome to the fickle world of buying& selling Northern
Dobber Posted July 23, 2014 Posted July 23, 2014 Was chuck flamingo a decent price? I've not seen one sold so have no idea....i think its a great record so interested.....thank you.....Rob i got 700 quid for mine about 18 months ago,certainly a rare tune and a decent tune aswell,so 900 quid seems the right money for it,its also released with green vinyl! 2
Pete S Posted July 23, 2014 Posted July 23, 2014 So does that mean it's gone for a fiver more than it's worth? Welcome to the fickle world of buying& selling Northern Don't know, just that £125 to £150 is a pretty set price for this one.
Premium Stuff Posted July 23, 2014 Posted July 23, 2014 i got 700 quid for mine about 18 months ago,certainly a rare tune and a decent tune aswell,so 900 quid seems the right money for it,its also released with green vinyl! Didn't Pat Brady have a Chuck Flamingo on his auction at the same time? Disappeared now. Anyone got any info please?
NEV Posted July 23, 2014 Posted July 23, 2014 Must make a note to never send records to JM to be auctioned this week of the yr !
Lionelonthevinyl Posted July 24, 2014 Posted July 24, 2014 i got 700 quid for mine about 18 months ago,certainly a rare tune and a decent tune aswell,so 900 quid seems the right money for it,its also released with green vinyl! Thank you lee....top man as always.....Rob
Carlf Posted July 24, 2014 Posted July 24, 2014 Thank you lee....top man as always.....Rob Was chuck flamingo a decent price? I've not seen one sold so have no idea....i think its a great record so interested.....thank you.....Rob £900 is quite a good price considering the label damage. That must have knocked quite a bit off it. Anyway, I would rate it at about 900 without label damage. 1
Popular Post Carlf Posted July 24, 2014 Popular Post Posted July 24, 2014 Icemen was an absolute bargain at only 360. I know there is a bit of a caution at the moment, with the ebay seller from Alabama turning up a few copies. How many, I don't know. But, even if it turns out to be 50 copies, for me, that still makes the record worth 500 to 600 at the end of the day. It's still rarer than some records you see around that price. And for someone in the UK to get one of those on ebay, it will cost an extra £100 in customs charges. 4
Labeat Posted July 24, 2014 Posted July 24, 2014 This all goes to show that guideline prices are pie in the sky... 900 for Chuck Flamingo... 360 for The Icemen!!! Doesn't seem that long back when those two had reversed prices. I ask you, what makes CF so expensive because in my opinion it isn't a quality Soulful tune... is it because they are scarce?
Soulof Posted July 24, 2014 Posted July 24, 2014 Icemen was an absolute bargain at only 360. I know there is a bit of a caution at the moment, with the ebay seller from Alabama turning up a few copies. How many, I don't know. But, even if it turns out to be 50 copies, for me, that still makes the record worth 500 to 600 at the end of the day. It's still rarer than some records you see around that price. And for someone in the UK to get one of those on ebay, it will cost an extra £100 in customs charges. 360 is a very good price for that record indeed. The blue coloured ones seems to be rarer than the black ones now IMO since a handful of the blacks ones recently turned up. Found this old thread about a red version as well.
Chalky Posted July 24, 2014 Posted July 24, 2014 Icemen was an absolute bargain at only 360. I know there is a bit of a caution at the moment, with the ebay seller from Alabama turning up a few copies. How many, I don't know. But, even if it turns out to be 50 copies, for me, that still makes the record worth 500 to 600 at the end of the day. It's still rarer than some records you see around that price. And for someone in the UK to get one of those on ebay, it will cost an extra £100 in customs charges. I remember at one time 50 copies turning up would render the 45 practically worthless, 5/600 for Icemen with 50 copies coming onto the market, maybe more, not IMO, it'd be less than the auction figure IMO. Been plenty of copies around in the past, not common I grant but nevertheless.......
Carlf Posted July 24, 2014 Posted July 24, 2014 This all goes to show that guideline prices are pie in the sky... 900 for Chuck Flamingo... 360 for The Icemen!!! Doesn't seem that long back when those two had reversed prices. I ask you, what makes CF so expensive because in my opinion it isn't a quality Soulful tune... is it because they are scarce? Well, I would say it's quite scarce really. Only 8 copies on popsike in 10 years and you just don't see it out and about. You're right that its not the most soulful record, but its a very explosive and catchy tune. A bit different.
Labeat Posted July 24, 2014 Posted July 24, 2014 When Middleton was in it's prime, the Icemen was fetching 7 to 800.... honestly! This record collecting lark is so up & down.... some you win, some you lose
Chalky Posted July 24, 2014 Posted July 24, 2014 There are 21 copies of the Icemen on popsike from the last 18 months and only two are over 400 quid. The one yesterday seems to be comparable to other auction prices in recent times. If it was blue vinyl then yes I would have expected it to sell for more. As said it isn't as rare as some make out and it wasn't an absolute bargain as suggested but probably the going rate for a black vinyl copy. How many more the guy on ebay has is open to speculation unless someone has inside knowledge.
Chalky Posted July 24, 2014 Posted July 24, 2014 (edited) When Middleton was in it's prime, the Icemen was fetching 7 to 800.... honestly! This record collecting lark is so up & down.... some you win, some you lose I can remember The Icemen fetching 900 quid or so, i can't remember if that was a black or blue copy? I can't remember Chuck Flamingo fetching 300 quid or so though, not on recent times prices, always been tough. Edited July 24, 2014 by chalky 1
Quinvy Posted July 24, 2014 Posted July 24, 2014 Chuck Flamingo, not exactly dance floor friendly. That's what drives the price after all. 1
Chalky Posted July 24, 2014 Posted July 24, 2014 Chuck Flamingo, not exactly dance floor friendly. That's what drives the price after all. What's driving the price of Chuck Flamingo then? Didn't do bad for a record that isn't a good dancer?
Quinvy Posted July 24, 2014 Posted July 24, 2014 What's driving the price of Chuck Flamingo then? Didn't do bad for a record that isn't a good dancer? Rarity.
Frankie Crocker Posted July 24, 2014 Posted July 24, 2014 Martineques went for more on eBay. In fact one fetched around £900 recently if I remember rightly. Yes, I noted this one but can't remember if I bid on it. I wonder if Manny won it? It strikes me that records auctioned for big money appear in John's auctions a few months later. Coincidence? I reckon he still turns a profit on those bought for re-sale but the odd loser gains publicity and more importantly, keeps the shop window full of desirable product. At a time when lots of big hitters in the auction market such as Moerer, Stanley and Tefteller have little up for grabs, Manship continues to keep raising the bar.
Chalky Posted July 25, 2014 Posted July 25, 2014 (edited) Rarity. Make your mind up. Your above comment should be dance floor friendly and rarity then ;) Not everything is judged by the dancefloor, not everyone who buys records are northern soul fans. Edited July 25, 2014 by chalky 1
Labeat Posted July 25, 2014 Posted July 25, 2014 I think it's a quite good dancer. Are you having a laugh, Chuck Flamingo.... a dancer? Well, yes, on a cabaret dancefloor 1
jocko Posted July 25, 2014 Posted July 25, 2014 (edited) Are you having a laugh, Chuck Flamingo.... a dancer? Well, yes, on a cabaret dancefloor It seemed to do all right back in the day, not in my top 1000 but its certainly not a bad record.And as for not dance floor friendly, the alternative view of that is due to the much poorer quaility of punter and promotoer in todays world, what is deemed to be dancefloor friendly records these day seem to need to be very one dimensional to suit the hard of thinking!Its all about perceptions really isn't. Edited July 25, 2014 by jocko 3
Carlf Posted July 25, 2014 Posted July 25, 2014 (edited) No. Am serious. Nice record, good dancer. I always get plenty up to it and dance to it myself when its played, so long as my knees allow it. But, I would say its not your 'regulation' northern soul dancer. Anyone who has had the northern soul dance lessons that are about these days and have been taught set movements at a set speed might struggle dancing to it. Edited July 25, 2014 by CarlF 1
Raresoul45s Posted July 25, 2014 Posted July 25, 2014 (edited) I sold the green vinyl copy recently, now that is rare. Best Darren Edited July 25, 2014 by BROWNIE 1
Labeat Posted July 25, 2014 Posted July 25, 2014 It seemed to do all right back in the day, not in my top 1000 but its certainly not a bad record. And as for not dance floor friendly, the alternative view of that is due to the much poorer quaility of punter and promotoer in todays world, what is deemed to be dancefloor friendly records these day seem to need to be very one dimensional to suit the hard of thinking! Its all about perceptions really isn't. Quite right. It's a nice enough tune but not for todays progressive venues, it had better times in the eighties & nineties
Labeat Posted July 25, 2014 Posted July 25, 2014 No. Am serious. Nice record, good dancer. But Benji.... how do you back-drop and spin to it? you'd be way out of sequence
jocko Posted July 25, 2014 Posted July 25, 2014 Quite right. It's a nice enough tune but not for todays progressive venues, it had better times in the eighties & nineties SO what is the difference between today's "progressive" scene and the 80's?
Popular Post Chalky Posted July 25, 2014 Popular Post Posted July 25, 2014 (edited) Are you having a laugh, Chuck Flamingo.... a dancer? Well, yes, on a cabaret dancefloor There's plenty who do like it, that's the beauty of this scene all have differing tastes. It would be boring if we all liked the same. Too many here seem intent on giving an opinion for everyone and slagging off DJ's and dancers or accusing others of scraping the barrel simply because a record isn't to their taste. Chuck Flamingo, I 've seen many a full friendly dancefoor to it. It certainly isn't as bad as some of todays so called progressive records, some shite funk and gospel masquerading as progressive northern soul. Edited July 25, 2014 by chalky 8
Labeat Posted July 25, 2014 Posted July 25, 2014 SO what is the difference between today's "progressive" scene and the 80's? What do "i" see as a difference.... well i went in the eighties and i go currently, and to me todays tunes are more enjoyable!
Quinvy Posted July 25, 2014 Posted July 25, 2014 It was a throwaway comment to try and explain the price on the auction. The records that appear to fetch the really high prices tend to be dance floor fillers. It wasn't a slur on the tune, though I doubt it's in anyones top 500. I would never buy it because it does nothing for me personally, but the label is gorgeous, and it's rare. 1
Labeat Posted July 25, 2014 Posted July 25, 2014 There's plenty who do like it, that's the beauty of this scene all have differing tastes. It would be boring if we all liked the same. Too many here seem intent on giving an opinion for everyone and slagging off DJ's and dancers or accusing others of scraping the barrel simply because a record isn't to their taste. Chuck Flamingo, I 've seen many a full friendly dancefoor to it. It certainly isn't as bad as some of todays so called progressive records, some shite funk and gospel masquerading as progressive northern soul. O There's plenty who do like it, that's the beauty of this scene all have differing tastes. It would be boring if we all liked the same. Too many here seem intent on giving an opinion for everyone and slagging off DJ's and dancers or accusing others of scraping the barrel simply because a record isn't to their taste. Chuck Flamingo, I 've seen many a full friendly dancefoor to it. It certainly isn't as bad as some of todays so called progressive records, some shite funk and gospel masquerading as progressive northern soul. Opinions are a personal thing and none of us like the same thing, personally i like funk/gospel edged Northern but cannot fathom Latino
jocko Posted July 25, 2014 Posted July 25, 2014 What do "i" see as a difference.... well i went in the eighties and i go currently, and to me todays tunes are more enjoyable! I suppose I was trying to understand if it was just a tempo thing, or indeed a quality thing. I think the quality thing is always easier to evaluate with hindsight, apart from a few howlers at the the time (Marty Thompson anyone) I would have said that the quality then was unbeatable, but as always when you look back you realise there were more than a few, much more than a few, howlers that don't stand the test of time. But the true quality hopefully lasts. I think thats the same for all eras I suspect. And whats in the moment is always, as it should be, the best. I don't think this current era will last as well as others however, except for those who weren't around much previously. But again only time will tell if I am just bitter or a prophet! And we now digress from Mr Manship's worst week ever, but still better than anyone else could achieve. Discuss. 1
Guest gordon russell Posted July 25, 2014 Posted July 25, 2014 SO what is the difference between today's "progressive" scene and the 80's? 20 odd years
Soulof Posted July 25, 2014 Posted July 25, 2014 I can remember The Icemen fetching 900 quid or so, i can't remember if that was a black or blue copy? I can't remember Chuck Flamingo fetching 300 quid or so though, not on recent times prices, always been tough. When I got my blue copy think 2005 was told only a handful black copies existed and that it went for more money so probably black.. Think Chuck Flamingo is a great record myself btw
Labeat Posted July 25, 2014 Posted July 25, 2014 I suppose I was trying to understand if it was just a tempo thing, or indeed a quality thing. I think the quality thing is always easier to evaluate with hindsight, apart from a few howlers at the the time (Marty Thompson anyone) I would have said that the quality then was unbeatable, but as always when you look back you realise there were more than a few, much more than a few, howlers that don't stand the test of time. But the true quality hopefully lasts. I think thats the same for all eras I suspect. And whats in the moment is always, as it should be, the best. I don't think this current era will last as well as others however, except for those who weren't around much previously. But again only time will tell if I am just bitter or a prophet! And we now digress from Mr Manship's worst week ever, but still better than anyone else could achieve. Discuss. Good words, but i have to say the current trend will last, i hope theres hundreds more tunes unearthed. Others have said 10 more years of this scene, i don't like to think that far ahead, let us live 'for now' 3
Quinvy Posted July 26, 2014 Posted July 26, 2014 Yes, I noted this one but can't remember if I bid on it. I wonder if Manny won it? It strikes me that records auctioned for big money appear in John's auctions a few months later. Coincidence? I reckon he still turns a profit on those bought for re-sale but the odd loser gains publicity and more importantly, keeps the shop window full of desirable product. At a time when lots of big hitters in the auction market such as Moerer, Stanley and Tefteller have little up for grabs, Manship continues to keep raising the bar. This is a phenomenon that I have noticed as well. I think it must be a coincidence though? Just noticed there's a Combinations on Kimtone gone up. I recently got outbid on one on eBay. 1
Pete S Posted July 26, 2014 Posted July 26, 2014 Yes, I noted this one but can't remember if I bid on it. I wonder if Manny won it? It strikes me that records auctioned for big money appear in John's auctions a few months later. Coincidence? I reckon he still turns a profit on those bought for re-sale but the odd loser gains publicity and more importantly, keeps the shop window full of desirable product. At a time when lots of big hitters in the auction market such as Moerer, Stanley and Tefteller have little up for grabs, Manship continues to keep raising the bar. So would you and I if everyone kept feeding you their best records every week...
pow wow mik Posted July 29, 2014 Posted July 29, 2014 I suppose I was trying to understand if it was just a tempo thing, or indeed a quality thing. I think the quality thing is always easier to evaluate with hindsight, apart from a few howlers at the the time (Marty Thompson anyone) . Yeah, me, I love it. (Sorry bit late, just to emphasize the different taste point). I dont get the chuck flamingo dancing thing...I dont love the tune but it's great dance tempo, bit of swing fuck you all up or something? 1
jocko Posted July 29, 2014 Posted July 29, 2014 20 odd years It's only that latter bit that's been odd is it not.......
Ady Potts Posted July 31, 2014 Posted July 31, 2014 There are two presses of Chuck Flamingo (with black vinyl). I know this because I owned both at the same time. One press plays a lot clearer (and a bit louder)than the other. I only have the loud/clear playing copy now, but from memory I seem to remember you could do a visual check & be able to see a difference. I think the dead wax on the "No one to call my own" side was a lot narrower on the low volume (muffled) press. You didn't notice the sound difference so much at home, but when we played them out on a big system, it really stood out. Any one else noticed this ?
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