Gwen Owens - (Just Say) You're Wanted And Needed

[Guest]

Can anybody confirm if this 45 was booted at all? I had a copy on Velgo, and whilst I'm no vinyl expert, it seemed to have the look and feel of a genuine 45.

I was aware that it was highly prized, a collector's item and rare. I have just bought the Sidra CD, which refers to it's rare status....£3,000!!

My copy seemed to be a poor recording in terms of sound, which the CD notes refer to. (bad pressing being the reason the 45 was withdrawn). It was fairly worn, Green label which had blue writing on it. (a circle I think)

I came across it in a bulk set of 45s, and no doubt, swapped it for something similar.

thanks

 

[Pete S]

Booted in 1976 on Velgo, styrene press, original is on vinyl...most of the originals jump

[Guest]

Thanks

I've got to assume I had a boot .....didn't jump from memory, but seemed 'off centre' regarding sound

[Guest]

BTW, 

there was a guy on Soulful Detroit who was the bass player on a number of Detroit rarities. I recall he played on the Strides 45s, and Gwen Owens' discs.

He grew up with artists and producers such as Smokey, Ivy Hunter, Norman Whitfield etc. His band played on these Detroit tracks.

I sent him a tape of things like the Strides and Gwen Owens....he'd not heard them in years...probably weeks after they were recorded.

His board name was STUBASS.

I thought about him, as this Sidra CD claims that the Funk Bros were playing on Sidra, Sound Inc recordings etc. Maybe the odd player made some sessions, but I rather doubt that the majority of tracks on this CD feature the funks in any great number or regularity. 

[Prophonics 2029]

Is he still propping up his bed with all those boxes of spare JSYWAN..?

[Prophonics 2029]

I don't understand the blue writing on your copy snakepit? is it the print or just random blue pen marks.

Edited July 21, 2014 by Prophonics 2029

[Robbk]

I know Stu Bass.  He was a regular Detroit session player during the '60s and into the '70s.  There were many session players who played on non-Motown Detroit Soul sessions, together with Motown musicians, including some or all of "The Funk Brothers".  The Funk Brothers made up only a small portion of all the Motown musicians.  Almost ALL the Soul music session players in Detroit played on Motown recordings at one time or another.  Many of them did it quite regularly.  Dennis Coffey, Ray Monette, Bob Babbitt, Melvin Davis, Don Davis, Dave Hamilton, Bob Hamilton, McKinley Jackson, George McGregor and many people thought as "non=Motown" producers and arrangers played on Motown recording sessions.  VERY FEW Detroit Soul recording sessions used exclusively "non-Motown" recording session musicians.

[Robbk]

BTW, 

there was a guy on Soulful Detroit who was the bass player on a number of Detroit rarities. I recall he played on the Strides 45s, and Gwen Owens' discs.

He grew up with artists and producers such as Smokey, Ivy Hunter, Norman Whitfield etc. His band played on these Detroit tracks.

I sent him a tape of things like the Strides and Gwen Owens....he'd not heard them in years...probably weeks after they were recorded.

His board name was STUBASS.

I thought about him, as this Sidra CD claims that the Funk Bros were playing on Sidra, Sound Inc recordings etc. Maybe the odd player made some sessions, but I rather doubt that the majority of tracks on this CD feature the funks in any great number or regularity. 

 

I would guess that ALL the Sidra Soul recordings had at least a few Motown session players playing on them.  Some probably had a majority of them being Motown musicians.  Probably a few of The Funk Brothers played on most of them, and a few of those recordings had none of them.

[Guest]

I don't understand the blue writing on your copy snakepit? is it the print or just random blue pen marks.

It was pen scrawled on label...but I recall a blue circle 'stamp' effect. The disc must have had a hard life....