Dave Thorley Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 (edited) Hi All Do all copies of the 45 'I'm so glad' have a double fade out at the end. Looking on Youtube most have a 2.27 run, just one fade out, But a couple have it at 2. 41 runwith a double fade out. So are they all the same and some just recorded it up to the end of the first fade or are there different pressings 2.27 run 2. 41 run Edited June 21, 2014 by Dave Thorley Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
45cellar Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 All of these have Double Fade Out FRANCE : 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
45cellar Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 PYE DISCO DEMAND Has single fade out Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mick Holdsworth Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 (edited) Dave, Do you mean there are printed labels with the time as 2:27 ?, (the two youtube clips both showed different labels, but are both reading 2:41) If you mean the length of the Youtube clip itself, I suppose not many people whilst recording the song would wait for a fade out to resume, especially as it is quite a long period of silence before it starts again, and, lets face it, a pointless extension. (Pye must have thought this on their UK DDS release, and just ended after the first fade). I've often wondered why the record was produced this way in the US. I can only assume it was an accident that wasn't picked up until it was too late. Cheers Mick Edited June 17, 2014 by Mick Holdsworth Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dave Pinch Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 maybe the pye disco demand label just faded out early..and the top youtube clip is a mock up one using pye dd recording..or am i barking up the wrong tree............................ or just barking lol Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Gogs Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 All of these have Double Fade Out FRANCE : Notice the french one says 2'46, is it longer? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 I always thought they did the double fade out as a gimmick, just for something different! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Stateside Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 It could have been a ploy by the record company to fool the radio dj so that while he was on to announcing the next record, their record came back in again. Just a thought, I'm sure no one cares anyway. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Rich B Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 Was it thought 'fashionable' at the time? I wonder if there are any more tunes out there with similar fades? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Jim G Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 (edited) The track was from their album, it has the double fade out on the album version also so I guess that is why it was released that way. Pye would have ditched the fade out on the Disco Demand as they wouldn't have thought it was needed in UK I guess. I used to own the album and bought it in Edinburgh in 1974, it was on UK Mojo The USA one has the same cover here: https://www.popsike.com/Soul-LP-The-Fuzz-on-Calla/120640194182.html Edited June 17, 2014 by jim g Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Sunnysoul Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 (edited) Dave, Do you mean there are printed labels with the time as 2:27 ?, (the two youtube clips both showed different labels, but are both reading 2:41) If you mean the length of the Youtube clip itself, I suppose not many people whilst recording the song would wait for a fade out to resume, especially as it is quite a long period of silence before it starts again, and, lets face it, a pointless extension. (Pye must have thought this on their UK DDS release, and just ended after the first fade). I've often wondered why the record was produced this way in the US. I can only assume it was an accident that wasn't picked up until it was too late. Cheers Mick The fade outs on I'm So Glad were definitely intended by the producer. One listen to the whole LP and it is obvious that the LP was conceived as a soul "operetta" of sorts with brief musical and spoken interludes between the main tracks. Quite groundbreaking for the time although neither the LP nor the group have been given anywhere near the recognition they deserve. They really were a talented group of girls and the LP is listenable throughout. Edited June 17, 2014 by sunnysoul 3 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mick Boyle Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 When it returns after the fade it sounds like a different recording, as if it were done in a different room. Was this added after the event or are my speakers knackered Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mick Holdsworth Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 OK, thanks for that, so the double fade was intentional, just cut for the reissue on DDS. I also presume the "2:27 run" and "2:41 run" refered to in the original post were references to the length of the YouTube clips, and not different printed Calla labels. Cheers Mick Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
dthedrug Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 HI ALL.... Did I'm so glad come from CALLA & released on MOJO, with the extra track before the I'm so glad? or have I got it wrong?? DAVE K Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mick Holdsworth Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 Yes Dave, forgot about the Mojo releases Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Wiganer1 Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 ps was this a biggie in its day? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Davetay Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 ps was this a biggie in its day? Yes Mark, a biggie from 73. 2 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Davetay Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 The track was from their album, it has the double fade out on the album version also so I guess that is why it was released that way. Pye would have ditched the fade out on the Disco Demand as they wouldn't have thought it was needed in UK I guess. I used to own the album and bought it in Edinburgh in 1974, it was on UK Mojo The USA one has the same cover here: https://www.popsike.com/Soul-LP-The-Fuzz-on-Calla/120640194182.html Love the spoken intros on the LP. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Gogs Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 OK, thanks for that, so the double fade was intentional, just cut for the reissue on DDS. I also presume the "2:27 run" and "2:41 run" referred to in the original post were referred to the length of the YouTube clips, and not different printed Calla labels. Cheers Mick I don't mind repeating myself if i eventually get an answer.. Why does the French issue shown say 2min 46 seconds? is this an even more extended version? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
45cellar Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 I don't mind repeating myself if i eventually get an answer.. Why does the French issue shown say 2min 46 seconds? is this an even more extended version? Not sure. When I get chance I will play them to find out. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Rich B Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 When it returns after the fade it sounds like a different recording, as if it were done in a different room. Was this added after the event or are my speakers knackered I reckon you need new speakers Mick - even though the distortion at the end of the Fuzz sounds deliberate! p.s. The Fuzz sounds much better than I remembered it so thanks for bringing it back to my attention Dave.. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Gogs Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 Not sure. When I get chance I will play them to find out. cheers pal Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dave Thorley Posted June 20, 2014 Author Share Posted June 20, 2014 (edited) I reckon you need new speakers Mick - even though the distortion at the end of the Fuzz sounds deliberate! p.s. The Fuzz sounds much better than I remembered it so thanks for bringing it back to my attention Dave.. Yep funny enough this stemmed from me going past it a few times in a box in the last month or so, as you do. Eventually I pulled it out and gave it a spin and thought to myself, bugger me this is good. Even played it in last weeks radio show, at which point messages and the show page on Facebook lite up, so clearly a few of that opinion. New to some and fondly remembered by others. Edited June 20, 2014 by Dave Thorley 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
John Benson Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 I'd have to have a listen to be certain, but the timing on my New Zealand copy makes it the 'long' version. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ian Dewhirst Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 Yep funny enough this stemmed from me going past it a few times in a box in the last month or so, as you do. Eventually I pulled it out and gave it a spin and thought to myself, bugger me this is good. Even played it in last weeks radio show, at which point messages and the show page on Facebook lite up, so clearly a few of that opinion. New to some and fondly remembered by others. There's quite a few from this era that I never hear out these days. "Do It To It" - the Funky Sisters, Ila Vann's "Can't Help Lovin' That Man", Casanova Two's "We Got To Keep On" and the Mylestones' "Sexy Lady" are a few other examples to name a handful..... Ian D 2 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
KevH Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 There's quite a few from this era that I never hear out these days. "Do It To It" - the Funky Sisters, Ila Vann's "Can't Help Lovin' That Man", Casanova Two's "We Got To Keep On" and the Mylestones' "Sexy Lady" are a few other examples to name a handful..... Ian D Love Casanova Two.Fuzz,what you'd calla proper oldie. 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
45cellar Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 I don't mind repeating myself if i eventually get an answer.. Why does the French issue shown say 2min 46 seconds? is this an even more extended version? I have just played both and they appear to be exactly the same time, around 2.41. I was hoping to couple my deck to my computer to check each on Audacity but my computer and deck are in totally differrent places at the moment. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Gogs Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 Thanks for checking, i'm glad there's not another version. I have just played both and they appear to be exactly the same time, around 2.41. I was hoping to couple my deck to my computer to check each on Audacity but my computer and deck are in totally differrent places at the moment. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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