The Fuzz - I'm So Glad - Double Fade ?

[Dave Thorley]

Hi All

 

Do all copies of the 45 'I'm so glad' have a double fade out at the end. Looking on Youtube most have a 2.27 run, just one fade out, But a couple have it at 2. 41 runwith a double fade out. So are they all the same and some just recorded it up to the end of the first fade or are there different pressings

 

 2.27 run

 

 

2. 41 run

Edited June 21, 2014 by Dave Thorley

[45cellar]

All of these have Double Fade Out

 

 

FRANCE :

 

[45cellar]

PYE DISCO DEMAND Has single fade out

 

[Mick Holdsworth]

Dave,

 

Do you mean there are printed labels with the time as 2:27 ?, (the two youtube clips both showed different labels, but are both reading 2:41)

 

If you mean the length of the Youtube clip itself, I suppose not many people whilst recording the song would wait for a fade out to resume, especially as it is quite a long period of silence before it starts again, and, lets face it, a pointless extension. (Pye must have thought this on their UK DDS release, and just ended after the first fade).

 

I've often wondered why the record was produced this way in the US. I can only assume it was an accident that wasn't picked up until it was too late.

 

Cheers

Mick

Edited June 17, 2014 by Mick Holdsworth

[Dave Pinch]

maybe the pye disco demand label just faded out early..and the top youtube clip is a mock up one using pye dd recording..or am i barking up the wrong tree............................ or just barking lol

[Guest Gogs]

All of these have Double Fade Out

 

 

 

 

FRANCE :

 

Notice the french one says 2'46, is it longer?

[Guest]

I always thought they did the double fade out as a gimmick, just for something different!

[Stateside]

It could have been a ploy by the record company to fool the radio dj so that while he was on to announcing the next record, their record came back in again. Just a thought, I'm sure no one cares anyway. 

[Rich B]

Was it thought 'fashionable' at the time? I wonder if there are any more tunes out there with similar fades?

[Jim G]

The track was from their album, it has the double fade out on the album version also so I guess that is why it was released that way. Pye would have ditched the fade out on the Disco Demand as they wouldn't have thought it was needed in UK I guess. 

 

I used to own the album and bought it in Edinburgh in 1974, it was on UK Mojo

 

The USA one has the same cover here:

 

https://www.popsike.com/Soul-LP-The-Fuzz-on-Calla/120640194182.html

Edited June 17, 2014 by jim g

[Sunnysoul]

Dave,

 

Do you mean there are printed labels with the time as 2:27 ?, (the two youtube clips both showed different labels, but are both reading 2:41)

 

If you mean the length of the Youtube clip itself, I suppose not many people whilst recording the song would wait for a fade out to resume, especially as it is quite a long period of silence before it starts again, and, lets face it, a pointless extension. (Pye must have thought this on their UK DDS release, and just ended after the first fade).

 

I've often wondered why the record was produced this way in the US. I can only assume it was an accident that wasn't picked up until it was too late.

 

Cheers

Mick

 

 

The fade outs on I'm So Glad were  definitely intended by the producer. One listen to the whole LP and it is obvious that the LP was conceived as a soul "operetta" of sorts with brief musical and spoken interludes between the main tracks. Quite groundbreaking  for the time  although neither the LP nor the group  have been given anywhere near the recognition they deserve. They really were a talented group of girls and the LP is listenable throughout.

Edited June 17, 2014 by sunnysoul

[Mick Boyle]

When it returns after the fade it sounds like a different recording, as if it were done in a different room. Was this added after the event or are my speakers knackered 

[Mick Holdsworth]

OK, thanks for that, so the double fade was intentional, just cut for the reissue on DDS.

 

I also presume the "2:27 run" and "2:41 run" refered to in the original post were references to the length of the YouTube clips, and not different printed Calla labels.

 

Cheers

Mick

[dthedrug]

 HI ALL.... Did I'm so glad come from CALLA & released on MOJO, with the extra track before the I'm so glad?

or have I got it wrong??  DAVE K

[Mick Holdsworth]

Yes Dave, forgot about the Mojo releases

[Wiganer1]

ps was this a biggie in its day?

[Davetay]

ps was this a biggie in its day?

Yes Mark, a biggie from 73.

[Davetay]

The track was from their album, it has the double fade out on the album version also so I guess that is why it was released that way. Pye would have ditched the fade out on the Disco Demand as they wouldn't have thought it was needed in UK I guess. 

 

I used to own the album and bought it in Edinburgh in 1974, it was on UK Mojo

 

The USA one has the same cover here:

 

https://www.popsike.com/Soul-LP-The-Fuzz-on-Calla/120640194182.html

Love the spoken intros on the LP.

[Guest Gogs]

OK, thanks for that, so the double fade was intentional, just cut for the reissue on DDS.

 

I also presume the "2:27 run" and "2:41 run" referred to in the original post were referred  to the length of the YouTube clips, and not different printed Calla labels.

 

Cheers

Mick

I don't mind repeating myself if i eventually get an answer.. Why does the French issue shown say 2min 46 seconds? is this an even more extended version?

[45cellar]

I don't mind repeating myself if i eventually get an answer.. Why does the French issue shown say 2min 46 seconds? is this an even more extended version?

Not sure. When I get chance I will play them to find out.

[Rich B]

When it returns after the fade it sounds like a different recording, as if it were done in a different room. Was this added after the event or are my speakers knackered 

 

I reckon you need new speakers Mick - even though the distortion at the end of the Fuzz sounds deliberate!

 

p.s. The Fuzz sounds much better than I remembered it so thanks for bringing it back to my attention Dave..

[Guest Gogs]

Not sure. When I get chance I will play them to find out.

cheers pal

[Dave Thorley]

I reckon you need new speakers Mick - even though the distortion at the end of the Fuzz sounds deliberate!

 

p.s. The Fuzz sounds much better than I remembered it so thanks for bringing it back to my attention Dave..

 

 

Yep funny enough this stemmed from me going past it a few times in a box in the last month or so, as you do. Eventually I pulled it out and gave it a spin and thought to myself, bugger me this is good. Even played it in last weeks radio show, at which point messages and the show page on Facebook lite up, so clearly a few of that opinion. New to some and fondly remembered by others.

Edited June 20, 2014 by Dave Thorley

[John Benson]

I'd have to have a listen to be certain, but the timing on my New Zealand copy makes it the 'long' version.

 

[Ian Dewhirst]

Yep funny enough this stemmed from me going past it a few times in a box in the last month or so, as you do. Eventually I pulled it out and gave it a spin and thought to myself, bugger me this is good. Even played it in last weeks radio show, at which point messages and the show page on Facebook lite up, so clearly a few of that opinion. New to some and fondly remembered by others.

 

There's quite a few from this era that I never hear out these days. "Do It To It" - the Funky Sisters, Ila Vann's "Can't Help Lovin' That Man", Casanova Two's "We Got To Keep On" and the Mylestones' "Sexy Lady" are a few other examples to name a handful.....

 

Ian D 

[KevH]

There's quite a few from this era that I never hear out these days. "Do It To It" - the Funky Sisters, Ila Vann's "Can't Help Lovin' That Man", Casanova Two's "We Got To Keep On" and the Mylestones' "Sexy Lady" are a few other examples to name a handful.....

 

Ian D 

 

Love Casanova Two.Fuzz,what you'd calla proper oldie. 

[45cellar]

I don't mind repeating myself if i eventually get an answer.. Why does the French issue shown say 2min 46 seconds? is this an even more extended version?

I have just played both and they appear to be exactly the same time, around 2.41.

 

I was hoping to couple my deck to my computer to check each on Audacity but my computer and deck are in totally differrent places at the moment.

[Guest Gogs]

Thanks for checking, i'm glad there's not another version.

 

I have just played both and they appear to be exactly the same time, around 2.41.

 

I was hoping to couple my deck to my computer to check each on Audacity but my computer and deck are in totally differrent places at the moment.