Guest Posted May 25, 2014 Posted May 25, 2014 Can anybody confirm the artists on this .....is it Johnnie Taylor with an early connection to Don Davis, or legitimately Johnnie Burke? thanks
Chas Posted May 25, 2014 Posted May 25, 2014 Seem to recall multiple copies in Tim Brown's shop,Richard S played it once as Mr Taylor,it so obviously is!..imo.
Guest Posted May 25, 2014 Posted May 25, 2014 Just being played an old Searling tape....he says it's Johnnie Burke ..and then remarks that it sounds like Taylor!!! I seem to recall that an old Groovesville CD from Goldmine .....I'm sure it had Johnnie Taylor photo on sleeve.
Chalky Posted May 25, 2014 Posted May 25, 2014 Old Rob Marriott spin. It is Johnnie Taylor. Joanne is a bootleg. 1
Tobytyke Posted May 25, 2014 Posted May 25, 2014 johnny taylor love on a lease plan was released on sevens with lv johnson got to get rid of you on the other side. 2
Dekka Posted May 26, 2014 Posted May 26, 2014 johnny taylor love on a lease plan was released on sevens with lv johnson got to get rid of you on the other side.That's very true, but,Was it legitimate, did Kev have the copyright?maybe Kev can answer that one
Quinvy Posted May 26, 2014 Posted May 26, 2014 Thought it were another acetate job? I would love a good quality sound file of it, the boot is terrible.
Chalky Posted May 26, 2014 Posted May 26, 2014 I'm not 100% Phil but I think there may have been an original acetate and that being the only source. I know Rob Marriott was the one who made it a biggie, not sure who he got it from.
Dave Moore Posted May 27, 2014 Posted May 27, 2014 Wasn't this part of Martin Koppell's buy out of Don Davis' stuff? Would make sense with Martin being a partner in Goldmine? Great record. Regards, Dave
Chalky Posted May 27, 2014 Posted May 27, 2014 Is the Sevens "release"better quality than the Joanne boot?
Goldsoul Posted May 27, 2014 Posted May 27, 2014 That's very true, but, Was it legitimate, did Kev have the copyright? maybe Kev can answer that one Goldmine/Soul Supply were the exclusive licensee for Groovesville. Love On A Lease Plan was an unreleased demo credited on the tape box to Johnnie Taylor. That's about it.
Dekka Posted May 27, 2014 Posted May 27, 2014 I have a copy of the sevens so I'm pleased it's legit, especially after having been informed over the years (now wrongly) that it wasn't legit. Has anyone any idea's on it's worth these days? The last I heard it out was at Burnley allnighter a couple of years ago, not sure who played it, although, I think it was the acetate that was played.
Quinvy Posted May 27, 2014 Posted May 27, 2014 I have a copy of the sevens so I'm pleased it's legit, especially after having been informed over the years (now wrongly) that it wasn't legit. Has anyone any idea's on it's worth these days? The last I heard it out was at Burnley allnighter a couple of years ago, not sure who played it, although, I think it was the acetate that was played. What's sound quality like Dekka?
Guest phillybuster Posted May 27, 2014 Posted May 27, 2014 I have the Joanne 45 with 'Love On A Lease Plan' A side and 'Me And My Baby' On the B side.
Agentsmith Posted May 27, 2014 Posted May 27, 2014 it's long since deleted, as is most of the early goldmine stuff now, ( i presume ) i bought a copy off tim last year...i was surprised he still had a few copies knocking about...paid £10 i think but maybe its worth a little more?.
Guest phillybuster Posted May 27, 2014 Posted May 27, 2014 (edited) Sorry didn't mean to put on twice. Edited May 27, 2014 by phillybuster
Dekka Posted May 28, 2014 Posted May 28, 2014 What's sound quality like Dekka? Hi Phil Not very good, infact I think the johnnie burke version sounds a little clearer if anything
Quinvy Posted May 28, 2014 Posted May 28, 2014 Hi Phil Not very good, infact I think the johnnie burke version sounds a little clearer if anything Thanks for that mate. Maybe the acetate wasn't of a very high quality?
Chalky Posted May 28, 2014 Posted May 28, 2014 (edited) Thanks for that mate. Maybe the acetate wasn't of a very high quality? It wasn't but Kev says they had the tapes? The acetate was around long before the sevens, Rob Marriott was playing it very late 80's early 90's, dunno where he got it from. Edited May 28, 2014 by chalky
Gouch Posted May 28, 2014 Posted May 28, 2014 Chalky; Rod Dearlove was involved in this arriving on seven, it was around the time of Thorne and Voices From The Shadows, it got a full review in the mag and was a huge Thorne spin for him, Defo legit as Rod wouldnt touch anything iffy. Give him a call, he'll have all the details. Gouch 1
Chalky Posted May 28, 2014 Posted May 28, 2014 (edited) Chalky; Rod Dearlove was involved in this arriving on seven, it was around the time of Thorne and Voices From The Shadows, it got a full review in the mag and was a huge Thorne spin for him, Defo legit as Rod wouldnt touch anything iffy. Give him a call, he'll have all the details. Gouch Ey up Bri... I will drop him a message when I get chance. Thorne spin for Rod would make it around 91? Might be where Rob got it from? Edited May 28, 2014 by chalky
Dysonsoul Posted May 28, 2014 Posted May 28, 2014 Chalky; Rod Dearlove was involved in this arriving on seven, it was around the time of Thorne and Voices From The Shadows, it got a full review in the mag and was a huge Thorne spin for him, Defo legit as Rod wouldnt touch anything iffy. Give him a call, he'll have all the details. Gouch That's right Brian ,i think there was 300 pressed legal and above board via Rod , it is definately not a bootleg - I think i was working at Brownys at the time and played it a bit at the time and i feel sure i would have sold Rob one who in turn will have cut it onto a dub to play out (very few if any on the northern scene picked up on it at the time ) and it would have appeared more exclusive looking with one of Robs labels on when he dj'd infact a similar story with the Spencer Wiggins - let's talk it over around the same time... deffo J.Taylor i think unissued stax era ? from memory anyways - two blinding sides either way ! 3
John Moffatt Posted May 29, 2014 Posted May 29, 2014 I have a copy of the sevens so I'm pleased it's legit, especially after having been informed over the years (now wrongly) that it wasn't legit. Has anyone any idea's on it's worth these days? The last I heard it out was at Burnley allnighter a couple of years ago, not sure who played it, although, I think it was the acetate that was played. This is very interesting. I've had this on a Goldmine demo for many years, but never played it out as I was assured that ALL Goldmine releases were bootlegs. If this is legit, then it meets OVO requirements, yes? Any info much appreciated. John
Goldsoul Posted May 29, 2014 Posted May 29, 2014 This is very interesting. I've had this on a Goldmine demo for many years, but never played it out as I was assured that ALL Goldmine releases were bootlegs. If this is legit, then it meets OVO requirements, yes? Any info much appreciated. John You assume wrong.
Goldsoul Posted May 29, 2014 Posted May 29, 2014 Wasn't this part of Martin Koppell's buy out of Don Davis' stuff? Would make sense with Martin being a partner in Goldmine? Great record. Regards, Dave Totally correct Dave
John Moffatt Posted May 29, 2014 Posted May 29, 2014 (edited) You assume wrong. Clearly, though I never assumed, I have been assured, many times. So any idea which ones were legit? Edited May 29, 2014 by John Moffatt
Dave Moore Posted May 29, 2014 Posted May 29, 2014 Totally correct Dave Thanks for confirmation Kev, All that stuff was great. Got 'em all. Regards, Dave
Goldsoul Posted May 29, 2014 Posted May 29, 2014 Clearly, though I never assumed, I have been assured, many times. So any idea which ones were legit Assured by who? Let's not get off topic. I answered your question as to Love On A Lease Plan-Johnnie Taylor. Any other concerns, try the former MD of Goldmine/Soul Supply Tim Brown. Very nice guy and I'm sure he will love to spend hours answering your questions
John Moffatt Posted May 29, 2014 Posted May 29, 2014 Assured by who? Let's not get off topic. I answered your question as to Love On A Lease Plan-Johnnie Taylor. Any other concerns, try the former MD of Goldmine/Soul Supply Tim Brown. Very nice guy and I'm sure he will love to spend hours answering your questions Haha, ok point made. Thanks for the info on JT. To be honest, when I read your first piece it didn't click who you were. I don't think we've ever communicated before. I've not seen Tim in years, so I think I'll leave well alone. ATB John
Gouch Posted May 30, 2014 Posted May 30, 2014 That's right Brian ,i think there was 300 pressed legal and above board via Rod , it is definately not a bootleg - I think i was working at Brownys at the time and played it a bit at the time and i feel sure i would have sold Rob one who in turn will have cut it onto a dub to play out (very few if any on the northern scene picked up on it at the time ) and it would have appeared more exclusive looking with one of Robs labels on when he dj'd infact a similar story with the Spencer Wiggins - let's talk it over around the same time... deffo J.Taylor i think unissued stax era ? from memory anyways - two blinding sides either way ! Andy: If I knew how to load it up I would post up the original review done by Rod in Voices at the time and yes it is/was unissued Johnnie Taylor and it defo was a legal issue with royallties paid. Gouch
Chalky Posted May 30, 2014 Posted May 30, 2014 Andy: If I knew how to load it up I would post up the original review done by Rod in Voices at the time and yes it is/was unissued Johnnie Taylor and it defo was a legal issue with royallties paid. Gouch Which issue is it Bri? I will see if I have it and upload for you.
Labeat Posted May 30, 2014 Posted May 30, 2014 Johnnie Burke, Johnnie Taylor???.... Could it really be Ray Agee? Sound awfully similar. Tell me "Thats Rubbish"
Ady Croasdell Posted September 14, 2018 Posted September 14, 2018 I've been reliably informed it's a Motown recording by blues singer Jesse Yawn so neither of the releases were legitimate https://www.bradenton.com/entertainment/article90245287.html 1
KevH Posted September 14, 2018 Posted September 14, 2018 On 27/05/2014 at 18:05, dekka said: I have a copy of the sevens so I'm pleased it's legit, especially after having been informed over the years (now wrongly) that it wasn't legit. Has anyone any idea's on it's worth these days? The last I heard it out was at Burnley allnighter a couple of years ago, not sure who played it, although, I think it was the acetate that was played. Would that have been Johnny Beggs?
Chalky Posted September 14, 2018 Posted September 14, 2018 55 minutes ago, ady croasdell said: I've been reliably informed it's a Motown recording by blues singer Jesse Yawn so neither of the releases were legitimate https://www.bradenton.com/entertainment/article90245287.html Talk about chucking a spanner in the spokes very interesting, Motown recirding too.
Dekka Posted September 14, 2018 Posted September 14, 2018 3 hours ago, KevH said: Would that have been Johnny Beggs? Long time ago now mate, can hardly remember yesterday lol
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