Simon M Posted May 23, 2014 Posted May 23, 2014 https://www.ebay.com/itm/BOOGIE-FUNK-45-Jeff-Floyd-Best-Of-Friends-Dont-Leave-Me-RARE-PRIVATE-GRAIL-84-/261481321174?ssPageName=STRK%3AMESINDXX%3AIT&_trksid=p2047675.l2557&nma=true&si=CetPLdyQzkD3BRjgFWsN5lx4iQg%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc Must be a joke ? Simon
boba Posted May 23, 2014 Posted May 23, 2014 plus the girl at the bottom is flat chested and has a butter face 1
Jason S Posted May 23, 2014 Posted May 23, 2014 plus the girl at the bottom is flat chested and has a butter face Girl? Thought was that Bruce in a bikini. 1
Swifty Posted May 23, 2014 Posted May 23, 2014 plus the girl at the bottom is flat chested and has a butter face what's a 'butter face' Bob ?
Jordirip Posted May 23, 2014 Posted May 23, 2014 plus the girl at the bottom is flat chested and has a butter face I'm sure it's Rick James in a bikini. 3
Maxwell Posted May 23, 2014 Posted May 23, 2014 38 bids with different bidders,they cant all be wrong,
Mick Holdsworth Posted May 23, 2014 Posted May 23, 2014 It is quite rare on US though, as opposed to the European release (Gemany ?? / RCA ?? - something like that but probably neither) which turns up regularly at about £20 / £30.) Don't think I have ever seen a US copy. As to the price, as I have never seen it, I couldn't comment. Cheers Mick
Popular Post Sebastian Posted May 23, 2014 Popular Post Posted May 23, 2014 (edited) It is quite rare on US though, as opposed to the European release (Gemany ?? / RCA ?? - something like that but probably neither) which turns up regularly at about £20 / £30.) Don't think I have ever seen a US copy. As to the price, as I have never seen it, I couldn't comment. You're probably thinking of some other 45, this one didn't get a non-US release. It's a very rare 45 that seldom turns up. This was definitely an extremely high price for the Jeff Floyd 45, but it has been massively in-demand over the past couple of years and few copies are hitting the market. There hasn't been a copy on eBay in 3 years apart from the one yesterday. And it's been five years since a copy complete with its picture sleeve was listed. A copy sold on SoulSource for £500 about three years ago. It has never sold on Discogs, but has got 132 "wants" for it. "Don't Leave Me" is fabulous. Yes, the guitar solo as well. Edited May 23, 2014 by Sebastian 4
Garethx Posted May 23, 2014 Posted May 23, 2014 A Soul Bowl front page record, which for some reason I never bought. Was slightly more expensive than the regular releases of the time, but not priced as 'rare'. The standard stock new releases were £3.50 in 1984, with the rarer ones like Ron Henderson, Fabulous Playmates and Chuck Roberson at £15. I've binned all my lists but think Jeff Floyd was a fiver. I wonder how many they had. I'm guessing a couple of hundred copies. 2
Sebastian Posted May 23, 2014 Posted May 23, 2014 A Soul Bowl front page record, which for some reason I never bought. Was slightly more expensive than the regular releases of the time, but not priced as 'rare'. The standard stock new releases were £3.50 in 1984, with the rarer ones like Ron Henderson, Fabulous Playmates and Chuck Roberson at £15. I've binned all my lists but think Jeff Floyd was a fiver. I wonder how many they had. I'm guessing a couple of hundred copies. That might be the case, but those hundreds of copies sure don't come up for sale much these days.
Garethx Posted May 23, 2014 Posted May 23, 2014 Indeed. A couple of hundred copies won't meet thirty years of global demand.
Guest Posted May 23, 2014 Posted May 23, 2014 what's a 'butter face' Bob ? Everything looks good "Butter Face"
solidhit Posted May 23, 2014 Posted May 23, 2014 what's a 'butter face' Bob ? It's when everything about a girl looks good, "but her face" 1
Guest Posted May 23, 2014 Posted May 23, 2014 In It's when everything about a girl looks good, "but her face" In stereo
Mick Holdsworth Posted May 23, 2014 Posted May 23, 2014 You're probably thinking of some other 45, this one didn't get a non-US release. It's a very rare 45 that seldom turns up. This was definitely an extremely high price for the Jeff Floyd 45, but it has been massively in-demand over the past couple of years and few copies are hitting the market. There hasn't been a copy on eBay in 3 years apart from the one yesterday. And it's been five years since a copy complete with its picture sleeve was listed. A copy sold on SoulSource for £500 about three years ago. It has never sold on Discogs, but has got 132 "wants" for it. "Don't Leave Me" is fabulous. Yes, the guitar solo as well. Yes, I think you're right. I've just checked my old want lists expecting to see this and it wasn't there, so I must be thinking about something else. Cheers Mick
Guest Ivor Jones Posted May 23, 2014 Posted May 23, 2014 (edited) A Soul Bowl front page record, which for some reason I never bought. Was slightly more expensive than the regular releases of the time, but not priced as 'rare'. The standard stock new releases were £3.50 in 1984, with the rarer ones like Ron Henderson, Fabulous Playmates and Chuck Roberson at £15. I've binned all my lists but think Jeff Floyd was a fiver. I wonder how many they had. I'm guessing a couple of hundred copies. Hello Gareth, hope all is well for you…... Initial copies of Chuck Roberson and Ron Henderson were sold at around those prices Gareth,[normally with the label contact details removed/scratched out],however the Ron Henderson did appear at the normal [ for new releases] £3.50 afterwards. The Fabulous Playmates was £5 as a new release I think Gareth. It was only listed one week as a New release on the front page, sold out by the following week from memory. That came out towards the tail end of the glut of really good "Indie Soul" [as they had become known by then] stuff appearing in the early to mid 80s. I have to be honest but I don't remember Jeff Floyd at all from then. Listening to the Jeff Floyd again,its a decent" for the time "production I think but i can't be the only one who thinks so much of the 80s stuff[though not all of course] just sounds awkward these days ? Weird how 60s 70s releases sound so much more fresh but I guess its just down to real instruments for me……. Oh for a time machine ! Edited May 23, 2014 by Ivor Jones
Lfcjunkie Posted May 23, 2014 Posted May 23, 2014 (edited) You're probably thinking of some other 45, this one didn't get a non-US release. It's a very rare 45 that seldom turns up. This was definitely an extremely high price for the Jeff Floyd 45, but it has been massively in-demand over the past couple of years and few copies are hitting the market. There hasn't been a copy on eBay in 3 years apart from the one yesterday. And it's been five years since a copy complete with its picture sleeve was listed. A copy sold on SoulSource for £500 about three years ago. It has never sold on Discogs, but has got 132 "wants" for it. "Don't Leave Me" is fabulous. Yes, the guitar solo as well. [/quote totally agree and that's not because I got it cheap many many years ago! I'm pretty sure the bidders will have heard guitar solo etc and fully know the whole tune before they got to spending that kind of money (but it don't half grown on you) 132 discogs wants and 38 different ebay bidders says a lot! Dave L must admit though the pic sleeve isn't very desirable and probably held sales back!! Pity they didn't have the air brush technology back then Edited May 23, 2014 by lfcjunkie
Guest Posted May 23, 2014 Posted May 23, 2014 Yes, I think you're right. I've just checked my old want lists expecting to see this and it wasn't there, so I must be thinking about something else. Cheers Mick You have a list for old wants?
Glynthornhill Posted May 23, 2014 Posted May 23, 2014 Doubt Soul Bowl had that many - that's where I purchased. Just because they made the front page / new release section did not mean J A had vast qty on these - would have thought around 50 ??? Gareth is correct on the source - not aware any other dealers had this at that time.....was never around even in the local area it came from . and no not for sale - as with most owners it's a keeper. 1
Garethx Posted May 23, 2014 Posted May 23, 2014 (edited) The figure was pure speculation on my part Glyn but it seemed to be listed for quite a long time, whereas other stuff–as Ivor mentions above–seemed to go pretty quickly, even at the higher prices. Ivor's point about the record's sound is valid. In London at the time it seemed the really modern sounding stuff was going out of favour and the Crossover thing was the flavour of the month. Chicken and Egg I suppose. Many of us were looking towards older sounding stuff as the quality of the newer Indies seemed to bedropping off a cliff face. A year earlier there were records coming in seemingly every week which still sound timeless today: Richard C, Johnny Dean, David Sea, Joseph Cotton, Willie Johnson, Tommy Tate, Veda, Daryl Pediford and on and on. By the time Sho-Nuff, Jeff Floyd, The Prize, etc. came along I got a feeling that this was the last stand for Classic Soul on 45 from tiny labels. By the following year I recall it being difficult to really regularly buy new soul singles from Soul Bowl, Record Corner etc. which were really any good, aside from those by already established artists. Everyone's experience will be different though. Edited May 24, 2014 by garethx 2
Simon M Posted May 24, 2014 Author Posted May 24, 2014 (edited) You did need to bulk out your new buys with 70's early 80's at the time . ( 1985 onwards ) but the more interesting DJ's would program the better 80's that turned up I dont remember ,undanceable, Xover coming into vogue until Thorne ?. Plus Early 80's recordings were still turning up in 1988 "Hardest part" Halo etc etc This part of the scene does need documenting really ? ps. Good 80's finds are even turning up today Edited May 24, 2014 by Simon M 1
Ncfc Posted May 24, 2014 Posted May 24, 2014 You did need to bulk out your new buys with 70's early 80's at the time . ( 1985 onwards ) but the more interesting DJ's would program the better 80's that turned up I dont remember ,undanceable, Xover coming into vogue until Thorne ?. Plus Early 80's recordings were still turning up in 1988 "Hardest part" Halo etc etc This part of the scene does need documenting really ? ps. Good 80's finds are even turning up today When Gary Welsh ran Thorne that sort of stuff was played and it was never rammed.When Rod took over your right the undanceable x over came into vogue and the place was packed. I once djed for Rod at Thorne and cleared the floor with RB Hudmon-"searching for your love" which would prob fetch stupid money now. 1
Simon M Posted May 24, 2014 Author Posted May 24, 2014 Head nodding , pint swilling Xover took over , I went to Ibiza 1
Simon M Posted May 25, 2014 Author Posted May 25, 2014 (edited) Records were cheap in the 80's , even Northern Edited May 25, 2014 by Simon M
Ncfc Posted May 25, 2014 Posted May 25, 2014 Records were cheap in the 80's , even Northern So were WIGS. Not seen Max in years.
Neiljon31 Posted May 26, 2014 Posted May 26, 2014 This part of the scene does need documenting really ? I agree.
Steve G Posted May 26, 2014 Posted May 26, 2014 Doubt Soul Bowl had that many - that's where I purchased. Just because they made the front page / new release section did not mean J A had vast qty on these - would have thought around 50 ??? Gareth is correct on the source - not aware any other dealers had this at that time.....was never around even in the local area it came from . and no not for sale - as with most owners it's a keeper. i agree with this. As a regular visitor to the West Winch barn in the early - mid 80s, the £3.50 stuff was usually 100-300 quantity. The more expensive front page stuff more likely 15-50 quantity…I didn't get it then, my copy came from Rod for £15 in the mid 90s…..time to give it a spin again….
Steve G Posted May 26, 2014 Posted May 26, 2014 This part of the scene does need documenting really ? I agree. Yes, we should document early days of the modern scene through to the end of the 80s……the sounds, the faces etc. I don't mind doing a part of it…..just lack of time at the moment…..
Ncfc Posted May 26, 2014 Posted May 26, 2014 Most of the 80s stuff i see for sale as unknowns were played back then.Not many of us into that sort of stuff back then,Rock City for example was always fairly quiet. First time i heard Ronnie Barnes it was like WOW! Perhaps dealers should list them as known/unknowns. 1
Arthur Fenn Posted May 26, 2014 Posted May 26, 2014 Yes Jeff Floyd was a Rock city spin circa 85, was just a regular £5-£10 buy at the bowl, it's nice & quirky but that's all I can say about it 8-)
Simon M Posted May 26, 2014 Author Posted May 26, 2014 (edited) Maybe we had too many sounds back then . Its odd that this and Henderson and Jones , plus Crystal "Music" are now fetching $$$ when they only got the odd spin back then. Must be rare ? Edited May 26, 2014 by Simon M
Steve G Posted May 26, 2014 Posted May 26, 2014 (edited) I dunno John did shift a lot of those new releases he was picking them up from all over the place…..lots of people were just buying them. I was buying twenty plus every month...….we were spoilt for choice looking back. Edited May 26, 2014 by Steve G 2
Glynthornhill Posted May 26, 2014 Posted May 26, 2014 Agree with Steve G re documentation - was a project I had in the pipeline but the severe lack of interest when i asked for flyers assistance etc - and a lack of time meant it's on the shelf for a rainy day . Have the outline draft of chapters and ideas but that is as far as I progressed . Also not sure it would sell ??
Simon M Posted May 26, 2014 Author Posted May 26, 2014 (edited) John did keep saying " These are the rareuns of the future " maybe it was sales talk , I just wanted to be upfront which was easy back then We were spoilt Steve ! and Sam who had only copies of things like Melvin Moore at the time , hardly played em for wanting to play the new buys ! Edited May 26, 2014 by Simon M
Neiljon31 Posted May 26, 2014 Posted May 26, 2014 Well I just nipped up the loft - not sure Jeff Floyd is on any I have but here you go : who mentioned a time machine ? marks are from the time ; mid / late 80's
Simon M Posted May 26, 2014 Author Posted May 26, 2014 (edited) I think D22 was Tony troutman , that had sold out due to London interest lol Edited May 26, 2014 by Simon M
Simon M Posted May 26, 2014 Author Posted May 26, 2014 (edited) Sam had Halo at the Bedford gig , no one really noticed Edited May 26, 2014 by Simon M
Ncfc Posted May 26, 2014 Posted May 26, 2014 (edited) And you had Luther Vandross Simon:-) Remember sitting outside the dom polski club with Andy Etheridge when some random guy walked past with a dustbin which he put through a bus shelter window!He then dissappeared into the night Edited May 26, 2014 by NCFC 1
Simon M Posted May 26, 2014 Author Posted May 26, 2014 (edited) Doh , everyone noticed Vandross lol Edited May 26, 2014 by Simon M
Steve G Posted May 26, 2014 Posted May 26, 2014 Well I just nipped up the loft - not sure Jeff Floyd is on any I have but here you go : who mentioned a time machine ? marks are from the time ; mid / late 80's Just look how some of those titles are now so in demand…..others not so……if only we had a crystal ball! 1
Steve G Posted May 26, 2014 Posted May 26, 2014 Agree with Steve G re documentation - was a project I had in the pipeline but the severe lack of interest when i asked for flyers assistance etc - and a lack of time meant it's on the shelf for a rainy day . Have the outline draft of chapters and ideas but that is as far as I progressed . Also not sure it would sell ?? I am up for doing this, but need to get my Scepter books out first, then I have one other project just starting, so it's number three on the list……right now. 1
Simon M Posted May 26, 2014 Author Posted May 26, 2014 Stuart Cosgrove's articles at the time gave an insite into a few of the artists , was it not Richard C on a whole page in Echoes some time in 1984 ? 1
Steve G Posted May 26, 2014 Posted May 26, 2014 Stuart Cosgrove's articles at the time gave an insite into a few of the artists , was it not Richard C on a whole page in Echoes some time in 1984 ? Yes and do you remember Mike Ward telling American hopefuls it was his article? One of them funny things…..
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