Geeselad Posted May 21, 2014 Posted May 21, 2014 anyone help with current value and id'ing an orig of Delrays Inc- destination unknown? thanks in advance, geese.
grant Posted May 21, 2014 Posted May 21, 2014 Manship guide states £400, so probably subtract a £100 from that
Geeselad Posted May 21, 2014 Author Posted May 21, 2014 Manship guide states £400, so probably subtract a £100 from that been told there's some interest in it at the mo, and its hard to locate Grant.
Chalky Posted May 21, 2014 Posted May 21, 2014 It has fetched 400 odd and Kev Roberts offered 750 for one which is crazy. It wasn't that long ago it was less than 200 but every man and his dog wants it now.......
Sebastian Posted May 21, 2014 Posted May 21, 2014 The orginal issue hardly ever turns up for sale these days (at least not "out in the open"). Why this 45 should only be considered a £300/£400 disc is beyond me. Far rarer and harder to find than that.
Corbett80 Posted May 21, 2014 Posted May 21, 2014 Heard it being spun in both rare and oldies rooms and filling floors.
Geeselad Posted May 21, 2014 Author Posted May 21, 2014 cant believe I've never flipped it! can anyone run down how to identitfy a real one? I bought mine fron tim brown around 15 years ago, so I'm hoping it should be pucka, but not certain
KevH Posted May 21, 2014 Posted May 21, 2014 Heard it being spun in both rare and oldies rooms and filling floors. Its an oldie really isn't it.Rare ,but surely had its day in the sun.? Fills floors though.Can't argue with that.
Goldsoul Posted May 21, 2014 Posted May 21, 2014 It has fetched 400 odd and Kev Roberts offered 750 for one which is crazy. It wasn't that long ago it was less than 200 but every man and his dog wants it now....... Just to clarify......I was offered 750 and turned it down. This is very, very rare. It's only due to a similar re-press that folks assume it's more common than it really is. So as for JM's valuation of 400...on this occasion he's under valued it by several hindered IMHO. 1
Pete S Posted May 21, 2014 Posted May 21, 2014 Sorry I don't agree that it's very rare, before it suddenly became a flavour of the month about 4 years back, you could pick them up for £125, I had 3 just from people in the West Midlands here. Yes it is hard to find now, but in real value, probably £250 2
Corbett80 Posted May 21, 2014 Posted May 21, 2014 I'll buy it for £250 if anyone has an original copy for sale
Kev John Posted May 21, 2014 Posted May 21, 2014 anyone help with current value and id'ing an orig of Delrays Inc- destination unknown? thanks in advance, geese. Hi Geese you have spelt it as Delrays & on JM's record on YT it's spelt Delreys is that a clue to Orig or the re issue ? or is it just a spelling mistake by you m8 atb Kev
Kjw Posted May 21, 2014 Posted May 21, 2014 cant believe I've never flipped it! can anyone run down how to identitfy a real one? I bought mine fron tim brown around 15 years ago, so I'm hoping it should be pucka, but not certain The label on the original is a lighter green and the text is not sharp - looks like it was put on with a rubber stamp. There are also a few specks of black ink dotted around the label. To be honest the counterfeit copy looks more professional than the original. I managed to get an original copy off Ebay UK about 6 or 7 years ago for the princely sum of £17.
Mark B Posted May 21, 2014 Posted May 21, 2014 Delreys inc - heart is not a toy - American records £400.00 Delreys incorporated - destination unknown - Tampete £400.00 for the last couple of years but always been hard on original. mark
Bo Diddley Posted May 21, 2014 Posted May 21, 2014 (edited) I can only see 1 proper copy on popsike - sold for £232 in 2012. The rest look like the "re-issue" to me. I know popsike only captures a sample of sales, but it's a fair indication of the general level of "traffic". Interesting when you check some other oldies. You can get 2 or 3 pages of them selling for £600, £700....£1000. I think this is a fantastic tune. It was a favorite when I first heard it in the 70's and remains so. (If anyone put a copy up for sale at £500, I doubt it would hang about for too long) Edited May 21, 2014 by bo diddley 1
Chalky Posted May 21, 2014 Posted May 21, 2014 Sorry I don't agree that it's very rare, before it suddenly became a flavour of the month about 4 years back, you could pick them up for £125, I had 3 just from people in the West Midlands here. Yes it is hard to find now, but in real value, probably £250 I have to agree with you Pete, few years ago you could get it for £125, I saw it sold for that, Andy Dyson sold it for that at the Wilton. Then couple of years ago it was reactivated by a few, Butch being one and the demand and price shot up. It might be tough to get a copy now but that is simply because people aren't selling, few years ago very few were interested in it. 2
Scal Posted May 21, 2014 Posted May 21, 2014 I can't believe that Kev Roberts was offered £700+ and didn't sell it. What a load of pap!!!
Gibby Gibby Posted May 21, 2014 Posted May 21, 2014 think 300-400 pretty fair nowadays anybody got one wont pay KR price but will pay the book rate if anybody out there has one cant tell if mines a real one or not.... but it was purchased in 1978
Guest Aaron Darcy Posted May 22, 2014 Posted May 22, 2014 It has fetched 400 odd and Kev Roberts offered 750 for one which is crazy. It wasn't that long ago it was less than 200 but every man and his dog wants it now....... Had the original from J Anderson probably around 1975/76 £15 pounds i think and this 45 was easy to obtain .
Guest Aaron Darcy Posted May 22, 2014 Posted May 22, 2014 Sorry I don't agree that it's very rare, before it suddenly became a flavour of the month about 4 years back, you could pick them up for £125, I had 3 just from people in the West Midlands here. Yes it is hard to find now, but in real value, probably £250 Pete your a genius 'spot on £250
Guest Aaron Darcy Posted May 22, 2014 Posted May 22, 2014 I can only see 1 proper copy on popsike - sold for £232 in 2012. The rest look like the "re-issue" to me. I know popsike only captures a sample of sales, but it's a fair indication of the general level of "traffic". Interesting when you check some other oldies. You can get 2 or 3 pages of them selling for £600, £700....£1000. I think this is a fantastic tune. It was a favorite when I first heard it in the 70's and remains so. (If anyone put a copy up for sale at £500, I doubt it would hang about for too long) Highland Room Blackpool Mecca ( mr Levine)
Sebastian Posted May 22, 2014 Posted May 22, 2014 The original has got the following etched in the run-out grooves (note 5444/5544): A-side: TAMPETE-5444-A MZL B-side: TAMPETE-5544-B MZL The bootleg has got the number "5544" etched on both sides in the run-out grooves.
Pete S Posted May 22, 2014 Posted May 22, 2014 An original went through ebay as a pressing a few months back and a friend bought it for about £25 I think. Someone who used to be on here but was banned. Three times.
Mike Posted May 22, 2014 Posted May 22, 2014 (edited) An original went through ebay as a pressing a few months back and a friend bought it for about £25 I think. Someone who used to be on here but was banned. Three times. offtopic post by myself on paul leedon moved to more suitable thread here are apoligies for the interruption cheers mike Edited May 22, 2014 by mike
Pete S Posted May 22, 2014 Posted May 22, 2014 If I had one of these for sale - which I have - what's anyone want to give me for it, bearing in mind I was only joking about £250
Corbett80 Posted May 22, 2014 Posted May 22, 2014 (edited) actually £150. It's not that hard. Edited May 22, 2014 by corbett80
Bo Diddley Posted May 22, 2014 Posted May 22, 2014 If I had one of these for sale - which I have - what's anyone want to give me for it, bearing in mind I was only joking about £250 That didn't hang about too long at £400 !! As I said in post 16, I would have thought it would be snapped even at £500. Dead Cert for a rapid sale at £400.
Pete S Posted May 22, 2014 Posted May 22, 2014 I swear to God, I didn't even see this until about 11am today, chap bought it round and told me what he wanted for it and could I get it - I said maybe, maybe not.. 1
Sebastian Posted May 22, 2014 Posted May 22, 2014 £400 is, as we all now can see, peanuts for this record. Would most likely have sold for $1000+ on eBay if listed properly. Probably much more. Demand far outstrips the pretty much nonexistent supply. 1
Geeselad Posted May 22, 2014 Author Posted May 22, 2014 thanks guys for help on this one, think mine, if I remember correctly has a faint matrix stamp in the run out, not heard this mentioned.
Sebastian Posted May 22, 2014 Posted May 22, 2014 thanks guys for help on this one, think mine, if I remember correctly has a faint matrix stamp in the run out, not heard this mentioned. Just have a look at the numbers in the run-out grooves. It's the original if it has got "5444" on the a-side. It's the bootleg if it has got "5544" on the a-side.
Pete S Posted May 22, 2014 Posted May 22, 2014 thanks guys for help on this one, think mine, if I remember correctly has a faint matrix stamp in the run out, not heard this mentioned. Has a little stamp at 3 0 clock. Label colour is just so different on the boot though 1
Corbett80 Posted May 22, 2014 Posted May 22, 2014 Hang on what about my on the money offer of £250?! I thought that was what this worth these days as it isn't rare?!
Goldsoul Posted May 22, 2014 Posted May 22, 2014 I can't believe that Kev Roberts was offered £700+ and didn't sell it. What a load of pap!!! Were you there when I was offered it? I don't need 700 and for the record would turn down a grand.
Pete S Posted May 22, 2014 Posted May 22, 2014 Hang on what about my on the money offer of £250?! I thought that was what this worth these days as it isn't rare?! Well let's see, should I take your offer of £250 or someone's else's offer of £400, bit of a tricky decision that one...
Corbett80 Posted May 22, 2014 Posted May 22, 2014 (edited) Gazumped! I'm not trusting any more valuations on this site! Edited May 22, 2014 by corbett80
Pomonkey Posted May 22, 2014 Posted May 22, 2014 Go look for their other 45, way rarer and even better, was just in their hometown down in sunny FL last weekend but no luck (of course)
Scal Posted May 22, 2014 Posted May 22, 2014 Nice to see you are doing so well....I don't think anyone will offer you A Bag Of Sand.....but one never knows, does one!?
Moxey25 Posted May 24, 2014 Posted May 24, 2014 original light green and boot dark green took me years to get one got one of here for 400 and every one said i was mad for buying it at that much 1
Mark W Posted May 24, 2014 Posted May 24, 2014 original light green and boot dark green took me years to get one got one of here for 400 and every one said i was mad for buying it at that much You only paid 320 moxey, some you win mate! 1
Soulman Posted May 24, 2014 Posted May 24, 2014 (edited) Had the original from J Anderson probably around 1975/76 £15 pounds i think and this 45 was easy to obtain . Was speaking to John the other day and this came up in conversation. He had boxes of them so they must all be up in attics somewhere. No more than three or four quid back in the day! Steve Edited May 24, 2014 by soulman
Moxey25 Posted May 24, 2014 Posted May 24, 2014 You only paid 320 moxey, some you win mate! did i dont care top top record and i got one would have payed more next one irma routen
Scal Posted May 24, 2014 Posted May 24, 2014 The good thing is that everyone who owns it, likes it....and as Kev Roberts says, he wouldn't sell it/ his/ a hypothetical one for a grand.......everyone is quids in........what a bargain! 1
Dave Pinch Posted May 24, 2014 Posted May 24, 2014 this record used to to crop up in the 80`s and 90`s and was never a lot of money.....its only the same as a lot of tunes in 2014....unavailable & sat in collections 2
Scal Posted May 24, 2014 Posted May 24, 2014 Ffs... it was one of Ian Levine's also rans....a spot filler before Lou Edwards, Ernest Mosley, James Fountain! Most people that didn't go to The Mecca or Sale or wherever Ian and Colin Curtis played would not have known it, and at the time would not have bought a copy if it was available. Let's stop the pretence, it is just another oldie that has been reactivated...a la Johnny Howard, Brothers Sisters and Cousins....that the nouveau collectors, attendees didn't have an inkling about.....the whole Northern Scene IS an oldies trip now. The fraying at the edges has been caused by time and elements that were never there....everyone now wants to make a killing out of a carcass! 2
boba Posted May 24, 2014 Posted May 24, 2014 Go look for their other 45, way rarer and even better, was just in their hometown down in sunny FL last weekend but no luck (of course) they have 4 45s. The most amusing an instrumental on the "Phart" label, catalog number 0069.
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