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Tracklisting looks about right to me for the time & a nice touch to have a personal choice of tunes to give a feeling of the people involved in the making of the film.

Spoke to Elaine at Cleethorpes & asked her when the film would be out & she said around September?

(Not read all the posts so sorry if this is old news)

Cheers

Martyn

I'm hoping for September as I'll be back in the UK for a week and I for one will be queuing up, don't care whether the head butt scene is there, it was a violent time and things did happen that wouldn't so much now. If we are to survive as a serious music scene we have to stop behaving like dinosaurs and encourage those that are eager to join the ranks of the beloved, soul is the music of the gods.
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Got to agree Dave, when you went to a nighter or soul do in another town or city in the 70's, you went half expecting to get hit. That hour between the pubs empting out at 11pm and a nighter starting at 12 was a real "keep ya nut daarn" hour. And your first reaction after shaking the hand of half those on the scene at that time was to check you still had a watch.  Proberbly just me though, I seem to've had a face folk couldn't resist belting :thumbsup:

I actually went to Wigan in Doc Martens with my head shaved, so you can imagine the hassle. I've always been good at hiding in dark corners though.
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I'm hoping for September as I'll be back in the UK for a week and I for one will be queuing up, don't care whether the head butt scene is there, it was a violent time and things did happen that wouldn't so much now. If we are to survive as a serious music scene we have to stop behaving like dinosaurs and encourage those that are eager to join the ranks of the beloved, soul is the music of the gods.

Dave

Think she said it'll be out the week you go back  :wicked:  :D 

Cheers

Martyn

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Got to agree Dave, when you went to a nighter or soul do in another town or city in the 70's, you went half expecting to get hit. That hour between the pubs empting out at 11pm and a nighter starting at 12 was a real "keep ya nut daarn" hour. And your first reaction after shaking the hand of half those on the scene at that time was to check you still had a watch. Proberbly just me though, I seem to've had a face folk couldn't resist belting :thumbsup:

It could be very intimidating in most Northern towns walking around as a soulie in the early to mid 70s and you had to have your wits about you. Sometimes just getting a train back with records in your hand or bag could be enough to create a punch-up. Plus Wigan and Va-Va's had some very naughty characters hanging around that were constantly looking for easy targets. I was lucky, that apart from a well-publicised pint glass in my face @ the Mecca and a plot to nick my records @ Cleethorpes (which never took place) I managed to avoid most hassles. Even though I was tall and soft-looking I got through 'cos I knew my records, thank god!

Ian D :)

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Having read the book I thought it did over do the drugs bit a little but as it's a group of personal stories from people from each period pulled together to tell the story of the scene it just goes to show how important the drug side was to most of us at that time.So those who have airbrushed that side of the scene out of there memories are deluded to a certain extent.What the book reminded me was that I had forgotten those frightening bastards that were about (fortunately some of em were my mates or I knew some the other big lads) but in retrospect that was one the draws of the scene.........been a bit iffy,knowing dodgy guys,breaking all the rules.

I remember when the locals at Wigan used to come out the pubs after last orders & think it was fun to go "soulie" bashing,we used to pile off the Hull coach & throw ourselves into giving them a good kicking if we could.......it was the perfect night,a nighter,plenty of gear & a fight..........what more could you ask for,saved us scrapping with each other :lol: 

Happy days.

Cheers

Martyn     

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Dave

Think she said it'll be out the week you go back  :wicked:  :D 

Cheers

Martyn

That's great, thanks Martyn, hopefully I'll see it in London before returning to the quiet of South Lincolnshire
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I liked the book and don't think the drug side was overplayed. Gear was an integral part of the experience for many folk. I remember nights at Peterborough when it was scarce or just bad shite, 80% of the punters would be seriously glum as a result. Agree with everyone else's views on the scene being dragged down years ago, even The Goodies had a pop, ffs. I don't personally know Elaine but you can tell she's committed. Love her enthusiam and eloquence. Looking forward to seeing it!

I remember nights at the Wirrina, sitting under a table all night with paranoia. Happy days
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A few nice unexpected surprises: John Harris, Rudy Love, Patrinell Staten, Royal Esquires etc.

Otherwise as expected for a soundtrack of a film set in the Wigan era.

Some one somewhere with a few John Harris's has said, 'stick that on there for me will ya' to drive up demand for a very rare record, that's my cynical view - great tune though :)

Guest Andy Kempster
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I cringe as much as anyone else over the perception of northern soul in the public eye, particularly over the last few weeks and months with the One Show, the world dancing championships and the flashmobs (whatever the fuck they are) but having just spent the weekend in the garden and reading the accompanying book (which I have had since it was first released and couldnt be bothered to read) this has surely got to be one of the best representations so far, I didnt go to Wigan or any of the other hallowed clubs and quite frankly and sick of hearing about a lot of it but with this book I would be happy to lend it to someone to read who doesnt have a huge understanding of the 'scene' and would hope that other than some of the drug horror stories in the middle of the book they would find it an interesting read and worth looking further into

 

I am looking forward to the film (and have been for what seems like a few years now) and hope it to be as enjoyable as the book

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I'm too young to get away with being able to claim "yeah, i went to Wigan Casino" like the 2 million other people in the world who 'went', so of the folk who actually went and actively post on here, i'm hoping you can answer my question.

 

Did all the records listed on the soundtrack actually get played at Wigan? Or am i missing something? (if it's not restricted to just Wigan tracks then cool, this isn't me having a dig, just wanting to get it straight in my grey matter).

 

Azza

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Did all the records listed on the soundtrack actually get played at Wigan? Or am i missing something? (if it's not restricted to just Wigan tracks then cool, this isn't me having a dig, just wanting to get it straight in my grey matter).

 

Azza

 

Hi Jimmy,

 

Most of 'em did (not sure about Marvin Gaye) including Mr Ms I guess:-

 

CD1: Northern Soul: The Soundtrack

 

  1. Right Track - Billy Butler                                          
  2. Back Street - Edwin Starr                                        
  3. Soul Time - Shirley Ellis                                         
  4. I Gotta Find Me Somebody - The Velvets                                       
  5. If This Is Love - The Precisions                                  
  6. Seven Day Lover - James Fountain                                               
  7. You Don’t Mean It - Towanda Barnes                             
  8. The Night - Frankie Valli                                       
  9. I’m Com’un Home In The Morn’un - Lou Pride                                            
  10. (Just Say) You’re Wanted And Needed - Gwen Owens                                   
  11. They’ll Never Know Why - Freddy Chavez                                 
  12. Tear Stained Face - Don Varner                                        
  13. Crying Over You - Duke Browner                                  
  14. Exus Trek - Luther Ingram                                  
  15. Too Late - Larry Williams & Johnny Watson
  16. Your Autumn Of Tomorrow - The Crow                                            
  17. I’m Gone - Eddie Parker                                     
  18. I Really Love You - The Tomangoes                                               
  19. This Love Starved Heart Of Mine (It’s Killing Me) - Marvin Gaye                                  
  20. Stick By Me Baby - The Salvadores                                
  21. Time - Edwin Starr                                        
  22. Come On Train - Don Thomas                                      
  23. Lonely For You Baby - Sam Dees                                           
  24. Gone With The Wind Is My Love - Rita & The Tiaras                              
  25. Suspicion - The Originals                                     
  26. Turning My Heartbeat Up - The MVP’s
  27. Time Will Pass You By - Tobi Legend       

CD2: Northern Soul: Further Inspiration from Elaine Constantine

  1. She’ll Come Running Back - Mel Britt
  2. Little Love Affair - Patrinell Staten
  3. You Don’t Love Me - Epitome Of Sound
  4. I Just Can’t Live My Life (Without You Babe) - Linda Jones
  5. What Good Am I Without You - Darrow Fletcher
  6. I Surrender - Eddie Holman
  7. I Don’t Like To Lose - The Group feat Cecil Washington
  8. In Love - Tony Galla
  9. I Was Born To Love You - Herbert Hunter
  10. I Really Love You - Jimmy Burns
  11. Blowing My Mind To Pieces - Bob Relf
  12. Please Stay - The Ivories
  13. The Chase Is On - Johnny Howard
  14. You Left Me - The Admirations
  15. Ain’t Gonna Run No More - The Royal Esquires
  16. Love Slave - The Antellects
  17. As Long As You Love Me (I’ll Stay) - Ronnie & Robyn
  18. My Lonely Feeling - Milton James
  19. Can You Win - Charlene & The Soul Serenaders
  20. This Won’t Change - Lester Tipton
  21. Love Factory - Eloise Laws
  22. Under Your Powerful Love - Joe Tex
  23. It Really Hurts Me Girl - The Carstairs
  24. Hung Up On Your Love - The Montclairs
  25. Baby Don’t You Weep - Edward Hamilton & The Arabians
  26. The Magic Touch - Melba Moore
  27. If You Ever Walked Out Of My Life - Dena Barnes

Cheers,

 

Ian D  :D 

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Guest Andy Kempster
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i was under the impression that the 1st cd was Wigan based soundtrack and the 2nd CD was more towards influential and important tracks since Wigan.

 

I could be wrong though

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a load of stuff on the 2nd cd didnt get played at wigan, seems most of the first did. as ian said, Marvin Gaye? and was Sam

Dees played at the cassino?

 

Or Suspicion.  Maybe Minshull played Sam Dees?

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i was under the impression that the 1st cd was Wigan based soundtrack and the 2nd CD was more towards influential and important tracks since Wigan.

 

I could be wrong though

 

No, you're correct Andy. I stopped going to the Casino in '76, so I missed a lot of stuff that was played between then and when it closed. Did someone have an acetate of Marvin Gaye back then I wonder....?

 

Ian D  :D 

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Just to bring everyone bang up to date, here is the confirmed track listing, details and expanded pack-shot:-

 

HURTXCD125NorthernSoul-TheFilm-ExpandedP

 

HURTXCD125 Northern Soul: The Film: Soundtrack Plus - 2 CD/1 DVD Box Set                      15/09/2014

 

In one of the most anticipated releases of the year, Harmless are proud to announce that we will be issuing the soundtrack to the forthcoming film, “Northern Soul” directed by Elaine Constantine. Early viewings confirm that “Northern Soul” will be the most accurate portrayal yet of this legendary musical movement which started in the north of England in the late 1960s and has now spread around the world and become a huge international scene. The film is due to launch in the UK in October 2014 and there will be considerable mainstream media coverage following the recent TV coverage via The One Show on BBC1 and the Culture Show on BBC2.

 

The soundtrack package for “Northern Soul” consists of CD1: the soundtrack itself containing all the key Northern Soul tracks from the film, CD2: an additional CD of specially chosen Northern Soul tracks compiled by “Northern Soul” director Elaine Constantine and an exclusive DVD with Elaine Constantine being interviewed about the making of the film by actor James Lance who plays top Northern Soul DJ Ray Henderson in the film. Plus there will also be some nice extras on the DVD including an early Richard Searling interview with Elaine Constantine and some other extras!

 

This beautifully packaged 2CD/DVD package will also come with a 24 page booklet specially written by Gareth Sweeney — co-author of the bestselling accompanying book “Northern Soul”.

 

This will be Harmless’ key release throughout 2014 and early demand and interest are already indicating that this will be a ‘must-have’ purchase for anyone who is interested in British musical culture, U.S. soul music and no doubt everyone who will see the film.    

 

CD1: Northern Soul: The Soundtrack

  1. Right Track - Billy Butler                                          
  2. Back Street - Edwin Starr                                        
  3. Soul Time - Shirley Ellis                                         
  4. I Gotta Find Me Somebody - The Velvets                                       
  5. If This Is Love (I'd Rather Be Lonely) - The Precisions                                  
  6. Seven Day Lover - James Fountain                                               
  7. You Don’t Mean It - Towanda Barnes                             
  8. The Night - Frankie Valli                                       
  9. I’m Com’un Home In The Morn’un - Lou Pride                                            
  10. (Just Say) You’re Wanted And Needed - Gwen Owens                                   
  11. They’ll Never Know Why - Freddy Chavez                                 
  12. Tear Stained Face - Don Varner                                        
  13. Crying Over You - Duke Browner                                  
  14. Exus Trek - Luther Ingram                                  
  15. Too Late - Larry Williams & Johnny Watson
  16. Your Autumn Of Tomorrow - The Crow                                            
  17. I’m Gone - Eddie Parker                                     
  18. I Really Love You - The Tomangoes                                               
  19. This Love Starved Heart Of Mine (It’s Killing Me) - Marvin Gaye                                  
  20. Stick By Me Baby - The Salvadores                                
  21. Time - Edwin Starr                                        
  22. Come On Train - Don Thomas                                      
  23. Lonely For You Baby - Sam Dees                                           
  24. Gone With The Wind Is My Love - Rita & The Tiaras                              
  25. Suspicion - The Originals                                     
  26. Turning My Heartbeat Up - The MVP’s                                         
  27. Time Will Pass You By - Tobi Legend                                                      

 

CD2: Northern Soul: Further Inspiration from Elaine Constantine

 

  1. She’ll Come Running Back - Mel Britt
  2. Little Love Affair - Patrinell Staten
  3. You Don’t Love Me - Epitome Of Sound
  4. I Just Can’t Live My Life (Without You Babe) - Linda Jones
  5. What Good Am I Without You - Darrow Fletcher
  6. I Surrender - Eddie Holman
  7. I Don’t Like To Lose - The Group feat Cecil Washington
  8. In Love - Tony Galla
  9. I Was Born To Love You - Herbert Hunter
  10. I Really Love You - Jimmy Burns
  11. Blowing My Mind To Pieces -  Bob Relf
  12. Please Stay - The Ivories
  13. The Chase Is On - Johnny Howard
  14. You Left Me - The Admirations
  15. Ain’t Gonna Run No More - The Royal Esquires
  16. Love Slave - The Antellects
  17. As Long As You Love Me (I’ll Stay) - Ronnie & Robyn
  18. My Lonely Feeling - Milton James
  19. Can You Win - Charlene & The Soul Serenaders
  20. This Won’t Change - Lester Tipton
  21. Love Factory - Eloise Laws
  22. Under Your Powerful Love - Joe Tex
  23. It Really Hurts Me Girl - The Carstairs
  24. Hung Up On Your Love - The Montclairs
  25. Baby Don’t You Weep - Edward Hamilton & The Arabians
  26. The Magic Touch - Melba Moore
  27. If You Ever Walked Out Of My Life - Dena Barnes

Compiled and Sequenced With Love by Elaine Constantine

 

DVD: Actor James Lance interviews Elaine Constantine — director of ‘Northern Soul’ + an early Richard Searling interview with Elaine Constantine + Audio Extras 

 

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Northern-Soul-Soundtrack-Various-Artists/dp/B00JYDGFXA/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1405507512&sr=1-1&keywords=northern+soul+the+film

 

Ian D  :D

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Really looking forward to the film & Elaine will do it justice for sure.  The soundtrack comes with the territory & I hope it sells well.

 

What I cant & never can understand, is why people try to deny that the scene was fuelled by amphetamines, 99.9% of those that attended Allnighters were kept up all night dancing because of the use of speed.  Nobody is trying to glorify it, it just was & for very, very many people it was all part & parcel, for some it still is to this day, I find it totally ridiculous that you can just sweep it under the carpet, almost laughable really.....I also find the suggestion insulting, that just because you dropped a few caps  you had no appreciation of the music, without naming names, some of the most respected & knowlegeable people on the scene had a mis spent youth shall we say & some of the best record collections were allegedly financed through it....I have the greatest respect for everybodies opinion, but some of the holier tha thou drivel really gets my gander !!!.

 

I was serving in the Armed Forces, so even if I had wanted to partake, I couldnt have, but seriously, I cant think of one of my civillian friends who didnt, not one....If the film doesnt deal with the subject realistically, then it wont be the real deal, it happen(s)ed....get over it & stop trying to white wash us, I feel sorry for those that didnt go, but have a passing interest in what it was like, when folk pretend certain things didnt happen....

 

The film will be brilliant, I know Elaine & she will have made sure that it is as true to life as possible, now lest wait & see.

 

Best Russ

 

Glad you like it Russ. This film has been a very very delicate balance of being true to the essence of the scene without compromising any quality, whilst hoping to also appeal to a wider international audience. A tall order for a very British film. However, if ever a U.K. film captured the whole essence and experience of an incredible cultural scene, then I can think of no one better to have directed it then Elaine Constantine. She has my undying respect for managing to capture a piece of historical magic that happened in the North of England in the late 60s and early 70s which I think will be the template that future generations will look fondly upon and wished they'd been there. Like us.  :thumbsup:

 

Can't wait to see it.

 

Ian D  :D

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Is this film ever coming out?

Don't want be rude but am getting bored reading about it and the feature on the One Show was ages ago. I hope it is great and goes to be a success, but please release the damn thing!

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Is this film ever coming out?

Don't want be rude but am getting bored reading about it and the feature on the One Show was ages ago. I hope it is great and goes to be a success, but please release the damn thing!

 

I know what you mean Jim. It's been painful. The kind of machinery you need to launch even a 'little' UK film like this against the Hollywood blockbusters is pretty formidable. We have a date of 15/09/14 for the soundtrack and 20/10/14 for the film. The plus side is that it may have been a long frustrating lead-up, but the sheer buzz from everyone involved in the film is that this is something very, very special. Looks like it's gonna be a key U.K. film for 2014. The overall vibe from everyone involved across all areas is just incredible - everybody is taking this film very seriously. Quite right too. It'll be worth the wait don't worry!

 

Ian D :)

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Glad you like it Russ. This film has been a very very delicate balance of being true to the essence of the scene without compromising any quality, whilst hoping to also appeal to a wider international audience. A tall order for a very British film. However, if ever a U.K. film captured the whole essence and experience of an incredible cultural scene, then I can think of no one better to have directed it then Elaine Constantine. She has my undying respect for managing to capture a piece of historical magic that happened in the North of England in the late 60s and early 70s which I think will be the template that future generations will look fondly upon and wished they'd been there. Like us.  :thumbsup:

 

Can't wait to see it.

 

Ian D  :D

Absolutely bang on Ian.

 

Best Russ

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A release date of 20th October, my birthday :) looking forward to seeing it.

oh wow, same here, so thats my Birthday sorted out... hope you enjoy it Chalky...

 

Mal

Guest Byrney
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A release date of 20th October, my birthday :) looking forward to seeing it.

I reckon we all meet up then mate on the night watch the film and then celebrate. Really made up for Elaine as she's put years of her life and all on the line for this.

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B*ll*cks, I was hoping I'd be in England for the release, I'll just have to wait for the DVD release and listen to everyone banging on about it until then,  still I have my memories, foggy as they are.

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There was a big stack of the books in Fopp in Manchester for £3.99 at the weekend.

 

Grab 'em while you can. The book will be re-promoted when the film comes out, so I doubt you'll see 'em that price again once those copies have gone.....

 

Ian D :)

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I reckon we all meet up then mate on the night watch the film and then celebrate. Really made up for Elaine as she's put years of her life and all on the line for this.

Sounds like a plan mate. We will sort something nearer time.

Posted (edited)

Will the film release be nation wide?

 

Not sure. Universal were wanting to pair it up with a Yoga dvd, so nation wide - perhaps not. Time will tell - wait and see job.

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Not sure. Universal were wanting to pair it up with a Yoga dvd, so nationwide - perhaps not. Time will tell - wait and see job.

:rolleyes: let he who is without grammatical errors cast the first stone.


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Went  t  Wigan 1974-79 alternate Saturdays and of course the monthly (Fridays if I remember right) oldies night ... In fact I can remember when Rita and the tiaras was a new discovery! :yes:  lol.

Nice 1st Cd`, all Wigan relics except perhaps the  Marvin Gaye track ... I never heard that played there ? But Chris King will definately know for sure,so suggest for final clarification ask Him.

 

PS Ian D did you once work on a poker production? If so we know each other well

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I reckon we all meet up then mate on the night watch the film and then celebrate. Really made up for Elaine as she's put years of her life and all on the line for this.

You lot going to get jiggy while the film's on?... I'm looking forward to it too, but that's a line I'm not prepared to cross!  :wink:

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I reckon we all meet up then mate on the night watch the film and then celebrate.

Funnily enough I usually do it the other way round - celebrate, watch film and then mate. To each their own I guess....

Ian D :)

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Guest Byrney
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You lot going to get jiggy while the film's on?... I'm looking forward to it too, but that's a line I'm not prepared to cross!  :wink:

Few drinks, the right light, music.... Who knows what will happen ;)

Guest Byrney
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Funnily enough I usually do it the other way round - celebrate, watch film and then mate. To each their own I guess....

Ian D :)

Surprised you'd get the chance ducks ;)

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Surprised you'd get the chance ducks ;)

OK, how about I substitute 'usually' with 'used to'? :)

You've got a point though. How come I've got so busy that I can only squeeze 3 or 4 shags a week in these days.......?

Ian D :)

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There was a big stack of the books in Fopp in Manchester for £3.99 at the weekend.

Is there a weblink or something to find them please?

cheers

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Went  t  Wigan 1974-79 alternate Saturdays and of course the monthly (Fridays if I remember right) oldies night ... In fact I can remember when Rita and the tiaras was a new discovery! :yes:  lol.

Nice 1st Cd`, all Wigan relics except perhaps the  Marvin Gaye track ... I never heard that played there ? But Chris King will definately know for sure,so suggest for final clarification ask Him.

 

PS Ian D did you once work on a poker production? If so we know each other well

 

Why ask Chris?  He didn't find it, posts above say who found the track and how and where it was played first.

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Guest nickw
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For those of you who prefer the real thing, 14 x 7" box set releases 15/9/14

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