Guest Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 I'm still young so next time you get them type of affordable tunes you just mentioned make sure you send them to me as money is tight and I'm desperate to dj Will do when you tell me what you are after ;) Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 Support the young ones how? By letting them dj? If it's not an ego think, why do they all want to dj? f*ck that. Support whoever's doing it well at the time, who cares if they're 18 or 80? I remember having callum on when he was pretty young, but not as some patronising favour to him, as a favour to me, he was one of the best djs i'd heard. Unfortunately, the nature of djing this stuff now, the fact that it requires the purchase of expensive antique records, makes it very hard to make an impact. There's great cheap records of course, but playing the best of these, are you ever going to compete with someone who's playing the latest hot in demand biggie? e Share your experience and connections! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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Guest Bearsy Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 Will do when you tell me what you are after ;) Salt & Pepper, WIllie Tee, pervis Lee as long as they are cheap enough for a young lad like me to buy Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tony A Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 Oy Kev, how did you get that pic of me, thought I'd burned that one. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Bearsy Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 Your first set at Burnley Kev I remember the suit Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 Will do... But theres a queue for pervis lee at mo.... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Bearsy Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 Will do... But theres a queue for pervis lee at mo.... Personally I'm not a fan of the pervis lee but I know its in vogue at the moment but as long as its cheap I can sell it on for big money and buy something I like like salt and pepper or the volumes - I've never been so in love on Garu Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
NEV Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 Support the young ones how? By letting them dj? If it's not an ego think, why do they all want to dj? f*ck that. Support whoever's doing it well at the time, who cares if they're 18 or 80? I remember having callum on when he was pretty young, but not as some patronising favour to him, as a favour to me, he was one of the best djs i'd heard. Unfortunately, the nature of djing this stuff now, the fact that it requires the purchase of expensive antique records, makes it very hard to make an impact. There's great cheap records of course, but playing the best of these, are you ever going to compete with someone who's playing the latest hot in demand biggie? e Why does wanting to DJ have to be about ego ? Unlike the older generation,a lot of young people are very fmilair with set of decks and many either already own a set or use their mates ,albeit because they have grown up in a generation of mixing and scratching or house music etc . Is it not possible that they do it to get a buzz from putting a great set together ? Thats how it works for me or if it was about ego ,id have been running my own venue long since ! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 (edited) Personally I'm not a fan of the pervis lee but I know its in vogue at the moment but as long as its cheap I can sell it on for big money and buy something I like like salt and pepper or the volumes - I've never been so in love on Garu As some say young ones dont have taste the volumes is always inthe box ;) Edited April 16, 2014 by Guest Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
NEV Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 Personally I'm not a fan of the pervis lee but I know its in vogue at the moment but as long as its cheap I can sell it on for big money and buy something I like like salt and pepper or the volumes - I've never been so in love on Garu There you go again ,typical old guy ,no imagination ,just wanting another big rare trophy 45 to drool over instead of discovering your own records like Henning ;) Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
pow wow mik Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 Why does wanting to DJ have to be about ego ? Unlike the older generation,a lot of young people are very fmilair with set of decks and many either already own a set or use their mates ,albeit because they have grown up in a generation of mixing and scratching or house music etc . Is it not possible that they do it to get a buzz from putting a great set together ? Thats how it works for me or if it was about ego ,id have been running my own venue long since ! I dont think djing is necesarily about ego. It was a response to henning who said 'let the young guys on, its not about ego'...surely implying that old folks are motivated by ego but young folks not?. Cover -ups, stopping young people from djing.... all the world's mis deeds are done by ego driven old djs it seems, how very British. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Juniorsoul Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 Salt & Pepper, WIllie Tee, pervis Lee as long as they are cheap enough for a young lad like me to buy What a fabulous spin. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Popular Post KevH Posted April 16, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted April 16, 2014 On a serious note for once,i think we have a society problem.One that gives the younger generation the feeling that everything is instantly available.From Big brother to Pop Idol,to 5 minute "celebrity" status.Everything at the touch of a button.Us older types growing up, were used to "apprenticeships",biding your time,although we didn't like it. Not saying this totally applies to the young guys who aspire to dj - or does it, subliminally.? A question for the younger dj's on here.Are you influenced by older dj's.? Is your record collection influenced by the older dj's..If so who.? The top dj's are there for a reason.They have the records and knowledge. Lastly,if you are a young dj just starting out,buy originals,put a set together that's different,buy only stuff you like whether that's NS,xover or rnb. By buying originals.you'll look back on your collection with more pride, the older you get. 8 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 On a serious note for once,i think we have a society problem.One that gives the younger generation the feeling that everything is instantly available.From Big brother to Pop Idol,to 5 minute "celebrity" status.Everything at the touch of a button.Us older types growing up, were used to "apprenticeships",biding your time,although we didn't like it. Not saying this totally applies to the young guys who aspire to dj - or does it, subliminally.? A question for the younger dj's on here.Are you influenced by older dj's.? Is your record collection influenced by the older dj's..If so who.? The top dj's are there for a reason.They have the records and knowledge. Lastly,if you are a young dj just starting out,buy originals,put a set together that's different,buy only stuff you like whether that's NS,xover or rnb. By buying originals.you'll look back on your collection with more pride, the older you get. For me its easy to tell. I'm not a big friend of ebay. I mostly like buying records in a hand to hand deal. If possible i try to get over to the states as much as i can (about every two years) and listen to all records that look interesting. if not in the states i have no dj that i stalk directly. I'm open and listen to as much podcasts from various djs as i can, young, old, male, female..... For example kieran lockyear "10 from the playbox" on mixcloud - perfect!! in the uk lot of people are after records butch and other big djs play, that might be good if you see him spinning a record for the first time, but if he spins it a few times you should know that many people are after it. I'm happy not to see him often, so i'm more influenced by other various people.... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
pow wow mik Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 (edited) But dave, as a guy who lives in spain you should know how many great young dj's are out there, especially in spain, that have great taste and dont play overplayed tunes. Like albert, dani, edu, josep and so on...... Edu? are you meaning eduardo? I knew him since the 90s, and I was young then but I'm not now, he'd have had to be about 10 then if he's still young now! in case you havent realised yet henning, the situation in the uk is completely different to europe - only a handful of serious young djs come through in the last 10 years here. As far as i know anyway, happy to be told otherwise... Edited April 16, 2014 by pow wow mik 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
KevH Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 For me its easy to tell. I'm not a big friend of ebay. I mostly like buying records in a hand to hand deal. If possible i try to get over to the states as much as i can (about every two years) and listen to all records that look interesting. if not in the states i have no dj that i stalk directly. I'm open and listen to as much podcasts from various djs as i can, young, old, male, female..... For example kieran lockyear "10 from the playbox" on mixcloud - perfect!! in the uk lot of people are after records butch and other big djs play, that might be good if you see him spinning a record for the first time, but if he spins it a few times you should know that many people are after it. I'm happy not to see him often, so i'm more influenced by other various people.... That's another thing.As we all get older,less people may be going out.Technology will become more prevalent and Mixcloud etc will be used more and more to showcase sets. Probably replacing the need to go out. Young dj's putting sets out on Mixcloud to a capitive bunch of miserable gits. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Emel Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 I admire Soul Sam because he showed me how to apply to people with your music: By staying open-minded and showing this attitude in your sets. I hope he'll get well soon.. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Popular Post Chalky Posted April 16, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted April 16, 2014 For one they have to support the venue, they cannot be expected to be handed a set simply because they are young but don't even attend the venue. They must also have something to offer. There is a lot of experience and knowledge put there and that is hard to be replace and shouldn't be pushed to one side just because they might be getting on a bit and someone says we have to support youngsters come what may. You have to have something to bring to the table that isn't already there. Lifeline is looking for younger DJ's for the upcoming nighters, the next two are sorted btw but some of the younger gangs mentioned I'm not sure I've seen them at Lifeline? 6 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Bearsy Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 There you go again ,typical old guy ,no imagination ,just wanting another big rare trophy 45 to drool over instead of discovering your own records like Henning ;) Wow I didn't even realise that Henning discovered it thanks Henning a great find I love it Nev I want to be just like you when I grow up Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Byrney Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 yawwwwwwwwwnnnnnnnnnIs the sound of someone coming out of a 30 year hibernation... Followed by "play summet we know" Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Bearsy Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 Is the sound of someone coming out of a 30 year hibernation... Followed by "play summet we know" At 51 he is probably tired being so old I know I've seen lots of people his age yawning a lot lately Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
pow wow mik Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 (edited) Not sure if anyone has mentioned the bleedingly obvious but... why would a young soul DJ WANT to be accepted into the northern soul scene? Most young people want to go out, get hammered, have a dance and, hopefully, get a lumber. If I was a youngster starting out DJing, I'd start my own night at the students union or whatever without getting bogged down in the whole OVO "under-played newie" "re-activated oldie" "trying to impress a bunch of 50+ year old balding grumpy old men" b*llocks. If they want to do a whole set off a memory stick, then so be it, if they enjoy the music. I really DON'T want this to end up descending into yet ANOTHER o.v.o. thread, but to teenagers or youngsters, I'm sure the whole obsession with "ownership" must be very strange - I don't think they get it at all, or understand what's better about spending £1000 on a bit of plastic, if there's another similar bit of plastic available for a fiver. Or free.. If young DJs want to "play by the rules" and can do the business, then I'm sure they'd be welcomed into the soul scene with open arms. If they want to run their own nights, they can do whatever the hell they want... agree with you to an extent, it's what I did at 18 after all, but just one point without wanting to bogged down in ovo : if they dont look for original vinyl, what do they play? Just stuff off re-issues? In which case, they're not really doing anything new are they? Just a cheapo version of the old baldy nights without the new records? And if they're just doing accross the board party nights, or dub step nights then fair enough, but thats got nothing to with what were talking about. Edited February 7, 2015 by pikeys dog swearing - workplace filters Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 agree with you to an extent, it's what I did at 18 after all, but just one point without wanting to bogged down in ovo : if they dont look for original vinyl, what do they play? Just stuff off re-issues? In which case, they're not really doing anything new are they? Just a cheapo version of the old baldy nights without the new records? And if they're just doing accross the board party nights, or dub step nights then fair enough, but thats got nothing to with what were talking about. ...when you say "they", who are you talking about??! The youngs? I bet there are as much as old people buying reissues as well as young ones. A lot of young people play ovo with great taste. As i said, check out the playlists of the"not too young swiss soul weekender". I would say there is lots of great stuff played and not many overplayed oldies.... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Andreas B Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 Well I would say start with attending an event regularly, get to know the promoter and then ask about a spot if you think you have the records to suit the event - definitely don't go once and ask about a spot. If we you want to try events that you can't reach, go the polite e-mail and maybe list some of the tunes you like to play. Some will help you and some won't for a variety of different reasons. Dave You gave me a chance and that worked out pretty well, didn't it? ;) Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Len Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 Here's a thread I started a while ago that links to this nicely - It has a slightly different take, more focusing on 'nurturing' the Scene carefully (I think some may find of interest) All the best, Len Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mark S Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 (edited) Whats the future then? Personally I dont give a damm see what I did there ? I dont actually care about the future of the scene just enjoy it for what it is , more get ups behind me than in front of me and forty odd years on from embarking on this soulfull journey not going to start worrying now about the future Edited April 16, 2014 by Mark S 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Liamgp Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Never mind who's on the decks and whatever they are playing. Can we please just get some dancers under the age of 30 up on the floor and save everyone from watching fat, wheezing, oldies like me and my peers having heart attacks whilst everyone thinks we're just doing some interesting floor work. 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
pow wow mik Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 ...when you say "they", who are you talking about??! The youngs? I bet there are as much as old people buying reissues as well as young ones. A lot of young people play ovo with great taste. As i said, check out the playlists of the"not too young swiss soul weekender". I would say there is lots of great stuff played and not many overplayed oldies.... the 'they' was the hypothetical young folk in cover-up's scenario. Just making the point that they might not care for the rules and customs of old baldy scenes, and it might just be 'all about the music', but if in the end they're having to have their records, their choice of tunes, spoon fed to them via re-issues, then it's just a youth club version of the northern scene and musically, they'd be better off at lifeline. Unless, of course, theyre putting their own twist on the sound, as in europe. Still waiting for someone to tell me if they are or not . Along the lines of inner city soul, who really seemed to create their own sound, or at least continue to evolve a style from the likes of ian wright and adam leaver Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Popular Post Dave Rimmer Posted April 17, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted April 17, 2014 My own view is that they earn spots based on merit, the same way all us old buggers did. You start by asking at your local Soul night if you can do the early set, you go anywhere they offer open deck spots, you travel anywhere to do a spot, even if it costs you more than you get paid. You play the best set you can, everytime you DJ. If you are good enough as a DJ, and have interesting enough records to play, you will start to get bookings. It is not an instant thing, you have to earn the respect of others, and the best way to do that is be a good DJ, playing good records. What you have to remember is that promoters pay you to make a success of their night, so they will not pay someone who is useless, or doesn't have good enough records. Back to the original question. Should people get spots just because they are young ? No of course not, you might as well say should people not get spots because they are old and bald ! Age is immaterial, they deciding factor is how good they are, and the records they play. 9 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Davekd Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 (edited) You gave me a chance and that worked out pretty well, didn't it? ;) Yes indeed mate and you didn't let us down (even with a hipster beard lol)! Edited April 17, 2014 by DaveKD Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Liamgp Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 the 'they' was the hypothetical young folk in cover-up's scenario. Just making the point that they might not care for the rules and customs of old baldy scenes, and it might just be 'all about the music', but if in the end they're having to have their records, their choice of tunes, spoon fed to them via re-issues, then it's just a youth club version of the northern scene and musically, they'd be better off at lifeline. Unless, of course, theyre putting their own twist on the sound, as in europe. Still waiting for someone to tell me if they are or not . Along the lines of inner city soul, who really seemed to create their own sound, or at least continue to evolve a style from the likes of ian wright and adam leaver I would sincerely hope that 'they' don't care for existing rules and customs too much. Youngsters should be making their own scenes and looking to entertain themselves - not us old baldies. If it be RnB, Crossover or Northern soul-based, good luck to them. 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Put herald Posted April 17, 2014 Author Share Posted April 17, 2014 At 51 he is probably tired being so old I know I've seen lots of people his age yawning a lot lately Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Bazza Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Age experience having a great collection ,does not always mean a great set ,I have seen as I dare say a lot of you have seen the same ,Sam, Vincent and many others can be brilliant but some times I've been left scratching my head thinking WTF is he doing Bazza 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Put herald Posted April 17, 2014 Author Share Posted April 17, 2014 no not just come out of hibernation mate just bored.heres the thing,i would never ridicule anybody about there taste in soul.after the casino and st ives i became a pub manager so time away from work was scarce.went to ns nights when i could , ranthem in my pubs if they were big enough.quit the pubs and had more time on my hands.admittedly i lost touch a little.went to new rare soul nights, wasnt for me.nothing that was played made the hair on my neck stand up like the first time i heard sam dees lonly for you baby or dee dee sharps majestic voice on what kind of lady so i slipped back into my comfort zone.i do sometimes go to caliente in peterborough to listen to what they play but again in doesnt do it for me but again i would never ridicule them .so your childish post from you and your mate only proves a freind of mine rightly sed dont go on soulsources forom its full of pretentius bitter sad obnoxiois know all (know fuck alls) you could ever wish to meet.last post on here from me ever no great loss you might say and i agree! happy souling whatever your format Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2531281/Britains-oldest-DJ-played-Massive-Attack-Dizzee-Rascal-set-finally-hang-headphones-72-one-New-Years-Eve-turntables.html You need this chap on but I'm afraid he hung up his headphones last year. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Bearsy Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 no not just come out of hibernation mate just bored.heres the thing,i would never ridicule anybody about there taste in soul.after the casino and st ives i became a pub manager so time away from work was scarce.went to ns nights when i could , ranthem in my pubs if they were big enough.quit the pubs and had more time on my hands.admittedly i lost touch a little.went to new rare soul nights, wasnt for me.nothing that was played made the hair on my neck stand up like the first time i heard sam dees lonly for you baby or dee dee sharps majestic voice on what kind of lady so i slipped back into my comfort zone.i do sometimes go to caliente in peterborough to listen to what they play but again in doesnt do it for me but again i would never ridicule them .so your childish post from you and your mate only proves a freind of mine rightly sed dont go on soulsources forom its full of pretentius bitter sad obnoxiois know all (know f*ck alls) you could ever wish to meet.last post on here from me ever no great loss you might say and i agree! happy souling whatever your format My dad used to tell me off whenever I spat my dummy out and called people names when I couldn't get my own way but then I found Soul Source and it was full off people that don't always see things how I want them to and so I just had to accept that they are always wrong. If you can get used to that then Soul Source really ain't that bad and SOME yes SOME even have a sense of humour but you really have to look hard for them ones as they really are a rare breed and probably not originals Hang on in there and check out refosoul and all the music threads some brilliant tunes in there Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Bearsy Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2531281/Britains-oldest-DJ-played-Massive-Attack-Dizzee-Rascal-set-finally-hang-headphones-72-one-New-Years-Eve-turntables.html You need this chap on but I'm afraid he hung up his headphones last year. He would be a youngster on our scene would Derek Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Steve S 60 Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Try Children In Need. 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chris L Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 If they start their own events there won't be any problem. That might very well happen, if you see how many young people are now attending NS events, maybe they'll tire of old, balding farts telling them "back in the day lad"...... 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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KevH Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 no not just come out of hibernation mate just bored.heres the thing,i would never ridicule anybody about there taste in soul.after the casino and st ives i became a pub manager so time away from work was scarce.went to ns nights when i could , ranthem in my pubs if they were big enough.quit the pubs and had more time on my hands.admittedly i lost touch a little.went to new rare soul nights, wasnt for me.nothing that was played made the hair on my neck stand up like the first time i heard sam dees lonly for you baby or dee dee sharps majestic voice on what kind of lady so i slipped back into my comfort zone.i do sometimes go to caliente in peterborough to listen to what they play but again in doesnt do it for me but again i would never ridicule them .so your childish post from you and your mate only proves a freind of mine rightly sed dont go on soulsources forom its full of pretentius bitter sad obnoxiois know all (know f*ck alls) you could ever wish to meet.last post on here from me ever no great loss you might say and i agree! happy souling whatever your format It was all going so well until the last paragraph or so.It seems nowhere is doing it for you,no music is either.Not enough young dj's,too many old ones. You've started a thread,folks have replied to it.To finish you wish us all Happy souling.? 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Popular Post Pete S Posted April 17, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted April 17, 2014 no not just come out of hibernation mate just bored.heres the thing,i would never ridicule anybody about there taste in soul.after the casino and st ives i became a pub manager so time away from work was scarce.went to ns nights when i could , ranthem in my pubs if they were big enough.quit the pubs and had more time on my hands.admittedly i lost touch a little.went to new rare soul nights, wasnt for me.nothing that was played made the hair on my neck stand up like the first time i heard sam dees lonly for you baby or dee dee sharps majestic voice on what kind of lady so i slipped back into my comfort zone.i do sometimes go to caliente in peterborough to listen to what they play but again in doesnt do it for me but again i would never ridicule them .so your childish post from you and your mate only proves a freind of mine rightly sed dont go on soulsources forom its full of pretentius bitter sad obnoxiois know all (know f*ck alls) you could ever wish to meet.last post on here from me ever no great loss you might say and i agree! happy souling whatever your format At least we know how to use capital letters 4 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Winsford Soul Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 My dad used to tell me off whenever I spat my dummy out and called people names when I couldn't get my own way but then I found Soul Source and it was full off people that don't always see things how I want them to and so I just had to accept that they are always wrong. If you can get used to that then Soul Source really ain't that bad and SOME yes SOME even have a sense of humour but you really have to look hard for them ones as they really are a rare breed and probably not originals Hang on in there and check out refosoul and all the music threads some brilliant tunes in there Bearsy. How very dare you come on here and say some people have a sense of humour, they're all miserable Steve 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Bazza Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 (edited) My dad used to tell me off whenever I spat my dummy out and called people names when I couldn't get my own way but then I found Soul Source and it was full off people that don't always see things how I want them to and so I just had to accept that they are always wrong. If you can get used to that then Soul Source really ain't that bad and SOME yes SOME even have a sense of humour but you really have to look hard for them ones as they really are a rare breed and probably not originals Hang on in there and check out refosoul and all the music threads some brilliant tunes in there I don't have a sense of humour I'm aware of Bearsy lol Bazza Edited April 17, 2014 by Bazza Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Winsford Soul Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 bring it on...top 1.jpgtop 2.jpgtop 3.jpg That's it. I'm starting Winsford up again , nightly with just these three DJ,s. Steve 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Bazza Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 I don't give a toss if he's 16 or 86 ,if he or she plays the tunes I like ,then he or she is a good DJ ,they play stuff I don't like then then they are crap quoting Mr Orlov "simples" Bazza Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Popular Post Corbett80 Posted April 17, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted April 17, 2014 (edited) If I was 20 could I come!? henning, no one is saying that there's no good young djs, or that it isnt possible. The guy said that he'd booked a fair few, and most of them were underwhelming, so he's speaking from experience and evidently, the experience of someone who really wanted to give young djs an opportunity. some sort of positive discrimination isnt going to make anything any better is it? And getting a young dj on playing boots at the expense of a older dj with more interesting records is just a bizarre scenario. it may be different in europe but over here youre playing to knowledgable people. I started collecting at 16, djing at 18, but I didnt get behind the decks at a specialist soul/r&b club until my late 20s, and then only cos I was playing things no one else was. That should be the standard surely? Not some equal opportunities shit. I'm not involved these days as much as I'd like to be, but I cant see any way you could put an exciting soul or r&b set together these days without a lot of money. I couldnt do it if I had to start now, even with 20 years knowledge. . Bang on. But the thing about the money is so true - it's a ridiculous hurdle. It's back breaking even for those who can (sort of) afford it. What 20 year old is going to be able to spend £300 - £400 regularly on records, and the daft £1-2k prices for popular stuff? The record price thing shuts them out of the ovo scene which in turn shuts them out of being 'taken seriously'. Essentially it's a catch 22. The big oldies are millionaires prices, the new stuff is automatically expensive because everyone is so desp to have it first, be it funk, r&b whatever. And the old argument 'there's tons of great records for £20' doesn't wash because, yes there are - but no one wants to book you on the back of them or hear them in a club setting seemingly, at least on the current UK soul / northern / r&b scene. The young guys that are able to have these collections can only be doing it in one of two ways - they are rich (be it genuinely or on the back of credit card spendage) or they have expert digging skills, shit loads of time on their hands and a fair bit of luck. That will always be a minority, not enough to keep a scene going. It's very easy to point out where the kids are going wrong when you're holding all the zillion quid 45s at home. Best thing for the guys to do (as mentioned) is start afresh with their own version of it all and not worry about us lot. And genuinely good luck to them all. Edited April 17, 2014 by corbett80 6 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Bearsy Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Bearsy. How very dare you come on here and say some people have a sense of humour, they're all miserable Steve Sorry Steve I must of got mistaken with seeing someone smile at a do recently but just been reliably informed it was just wind the rest of the group was just Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tlscapital Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 (edited) How strange; how words we use can create emulation and beat the bush out of all it's content in the end. I originally (mis)read the topic title as "young"="new" BLOOD. But then others read it as "young" as opposed to "old". This IMHO is sterile. We were all young once and are bound to be old one day. I always knew about young idiots and old bastards. Not forgetting those middle age stupid people. Now why are they not being target at here ? They are the "baby boom" generation ! Once a young and absolute beginner, I did listen to and look up to my elder relatives to live and learn with humility and critic. And so I always understood that the mix of peopleS made the sceneS livable and entertaining rather than suffocating and boring. Wether by age, gender, shape and color. Even if it's more about the fashion, for others about the sport (dance) and for quiet some it's to do with the music. And still for too many (even if few) it's just an ego trip. So here we go; there will always be room to supply haemoglobin to those who would not be ego-satisfied by enjoying and criticizing constructively the world around them. Those who can only exist by dissing others are that kind; perverted and/or frustrated narcissists. In the small world of the scene called northern soul they can either be collectors, dancers, deejays, contenders, or punters. Now on the subject of "new" blood behind the desks, I agree that there should be room for them at any events actually. If they are capable to "fit-in" at the same time. They don't have to please the hardliner collector who only want to hear new sounds (to them that is) or the dancers that will only dance at white powder speed or the hipsters who will only dig the new euro-IN sounds commending big tickets. No one can please everybody at once. But playing OVO is the only way yo can be creative with what you have at home and about. Do we need those pre-fab à la "Carnaby street" northern soul outfit, record collections and artifacts ? I can go to an R'n'B club and dig those 5T's & early 6T's sounds. But I don't want to hear those so called "new breed" or pop-corn sound at a proper northern soul nite. Nor hear northern at a modern do. Even if I can go anywhere. We are pleased to be surprized while we need to know what we are getting into at the same time. If I go to a venue that says 'ska, soul, groove, R'n'B & pop-corn' I will attend knowingly and won't complain about the mix of the genres. If you go to your Fish & Chips stall and expect caviar, you might find that your frustration is only yours rather than anyone's bother. Get your own caviar stall then. We all did stuffs like that when we were young I thought ? I read often down here about local clubs and youth clubs. They maybe are not as glowing to a teenager eye but they can be a good place to practice... Edited April 17, 2014 by tlscapital 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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