Guest Baz Posted July 14, 2006 Posted July 14, 2006 Been looking at the Big Top lable for some time now getting bits and peices now want to go deeper.... what a fantastic label. Any CD comps out? recomendations on the label? So far in the collection Lou Johnson - If i never get to love you Parakeets - Love you like i do Jamie Coe - Cleopatra Dynamics - I wanna know/natural fact (brill double sider) Dynamics - Misery/ Im the man Gerri Granger - Castles
Simsy Posted July 14, 2006 Posted July 14, 2006 Been looking at the Big Top lable for some time now getting bits and peices now want to go deeper.... what a fantastic label. recomendations on the label? Don & Juan - What I really meant to say
Chalky Posted July 14, 2006 Posted July 14, 2006 Another Lou Johnson, great double sider Wouldn't that be something/You better let him go and Bobbi Smith & Dreamgirls - Now He's Gone.
Soul Shrews Posted July 14, 2006 Posted July 14, 2006 Been looking at the Big Top lable for some time now getting bits and peices now want to go deeper.... what a fantastic label. Any CD comps out? recomendations on the label? Goldmine put out "Big Top Soul Cellar" CD in 1999
Guest Bearsoul Posted July 14, 2006 Posted July 14, 2006 Goldmine put out "Big Top Soul Cellar" CD in 1999 HAS IT GOT 'SEND IN THE CLOWNS ' ON PACO...WHAT ABOUT THAT LOU JOHNSON YOU HAD OFF ME ..'WALK ON BY ???
Soul Shrews Posted July 14, 2006 Posted July 14, 2006 (edited) HAS IT GOT 'SEND IN THE CLOWNS ' ON PACO...WHAT ABOUT THAT LOU JOHNSON YOU HAD OFF ME ..'WALK ON BY ??? Stop trying to be (Billy) Smart Chris!!!!! Love that Lou Johnson version Great B side too "Little girl" Cheers Paco Edited July 14, 2006 by soul shrews
P5OULH Posted July 14, 2006 Posted July 14, 2006 Been looking at the Big Top lable for some time now getting bits and peices now want to go deeper.... what a fantastic label. Any CD comps out? recomendations on the label? So far in the collection Lou Johnson - If i never get to love you Parakeets - Love you like i do Jamie Coe - Cleopatra Dynamics - I wanna know/natural fact (brill double sider) Dynamics - Misery/ Im the man Gerri Granger - Castles Hi try spencer stirling - jilted - big top 3104 sarah cooke - please don't go - big top 519 kenny martin - heart storm - big top 3053 manship has soundbytes good luck
Dave Rimmer Posted July 14, 2006 Posted July 14, 2006 Been looking at the Big Top lable for some time now getting bits and peices now want to go deeper.... what a fantastic label. Hi Baz, If you go here: Big Top There's a rather incomplete label listing. Can you fill in any of the gaps ?
Guest TONY ROUNCE Posted July 17, 2006 Posted July 17, 2006 (edited) Hi Baz, If you go here: Big Top There's a rather incomplete label listing. Can you fill in any of the gaps ? Dave - I can fill in the following gaps - 3010 - THE COTTONTAILS - Mother Hen And Her Easter Bunnies/Funny Bunny Bonnets 3011 - probably not issued 3018 - probably not issued 3020 - probably not issued 3021 - probably not issued 3022 - probably not issued 3023 - probably not issued 3027 - THE CHAVIS BROTHERS - Hey Good Lookin'/Love Me Baby 3028 - DEAN EVANS - A Goodnight Kiss/Hold Me Close 3047 - probably not issued 3102 - THE PREMIERS - Are You All Right parts 1 & 2 3126 - THE PREMIERS - Dogsey Moo/Locomotive 3160 - probably not issued ...not a lot there to bother your average "Sourcer", I'd warrant.... TONE Edited July 17, 2006 by TONY ROUNCE
Guest Posted July 17, 2006 Posted July 17, 2006 How much would a white demo,of "reach out for me"/magic posion be worth,M- Am i right in saying these are alot rarer?.
John Al Posted July 17, 2006 Posted July 17, 2006 Been looking at the Big Top lable for some time now getting bits and peices now want to go deeper.... what a fantastic label. Any CD comps out? recomendations on the label? So far in the collection Lou Johnson - If i never get to love you Parakeets - Love you like i do Jamie Coe - Cleopatra Dynamics - I wanna know/natural fact (brill double sider) Dynamics - Misery/ Im the man Gerri Granger - Castles Gerri Grainger - Breakdown/Stick Close Great double sider. J.
Platters 81 Posted July 17, 2006 Posted July 17, 2006 got a Minto spare of this for £25 (incl p+p).. ...pm me if interested...1961 R+B instr....Maximilian was Max Crook....(who was with Del Shannon in the Midnight Ramblers)....they were a Detroit group.....(promoted by Ollie Mclaughlin during his Ann Arbor DJing days..)... got a release on UK London too...big Mod revival sound wasnt it Mace?
Guest the dukester Posted July 17, 2006 Posted July 17, 2006 (edited) Been looking at the Big Top lable for some time now getting bits and peices now want to go deeper.... what a fantastic label. Any CD comps out? recomendations on the label? So far in the collection Lou Johnson - If i never get to love you Parakeets - Love you like i do Jamie Coe - Cleopatra Dynamics - I wanna know/natural fact (brill double sider) Dynamics - Misery/ Im the man Gerri Granger - Castles BIG TOP SOUL CELLAR - THERE ALL ON THERE Edited July 17, 2006 by the dukester
Guest the dukester Posted July 17, 2006 Posted July 17, 2006 BIG TOP SOUL CELLAR - THERE ALL ON THERE AMERICAN ARTS SUB LABEL- VOLUMES- I JUST CANT HELP MYSELF/ONE WAY LOVER QUALITY DBL SIDER ALSO
Guest TONY ROUNCE Posted July 17, 2006 Posted July 17, 2006 AMERICAN ARTS SUB LABEL- VOLUMES- I JUST CANT HELP MYSELF/ONE WAY LOVER QUALITY DBL SIDER ALSO American Arts was not a subsidiary of Big Top or Bil Hill. They were both owned by music publishers Jean and Julan Aberbach, and run out of New York. Despite the handful of Detroit-recorded 45s on it, AA was a Pittsburgh-based label and had nothing whatsoever to do with the Aberbach family. Think Harry Balk might have had a piece of it, before Impact. TONE
Guest TONY ROUNCE Posted July 17, 2006 Posted July 17, 2006 got a Minto spare of this for £25 (incl p+p).. ...pm me if interested...1961 R+B instr....Maximilian was Max Crook....(who was with Del Shannon in the Midnight Ramblers)....they were a Detroit group.....(promoted by Ollie Mclaughlin during his Ann Arbor DJing days..)... got a release on UK London too...big Mod revival sound wasnt it Mace? Actually, "The Snake" was issued twice on London - once accidentally, as the flip of early pressings of Del Shannon's "Runaway". What should have been on the B-side of that, and what WAS on the B-side of later pressings, was a tune called "Jody". I must have played hundreds of copies of "Jody" down the years, and I've only ever found two that have played "The Snake"... TONE
Gene-r Posted July 17, 2006 Posted July 17, 2006 (edited) got a Minto spare of this for £25 (incl p+p).. ...pm me if interested...1961 R+B instr....Maximilian was Max Crook....(who was with Del Shannon in the Midnight Ramblers)....they were a Detroit group.....(promoted by Ollie Mclaughlin during his Ann Arbor DJing days..)... got a release on UK London too...big Mod revival sound wasnt it Mace? It's also been said that both Del Shannon's wife, Shirley Westover, and Max Crook's wife, Joann, (plus one other literally dragged off the street for the session) provide the background claps in "The Snake". The four tracks (Runaway/Jody by Del Shannon, and The Snake/Wanderer by Maximilian) were recorded at the same session in January 1961, at Bell Sound Studios. Take a look at this: https://go.zibycom.com/members/002222119/Site4/maxcrook.html - Max Crook's personal website! Edited July 17, 2006 by Gene-R
Guest the dukester Posted July 17, 2006 Posted July 17, 2006 American Arts was not a subsidiary of Big Top or Bil Hill. They were both owned by music publishers Jean and Julan Aberbach, and run out of New York. Despite the handful of Detroit-recorded 45s on it, AA was a Pittsburgh-based label and had nothing whatsoever to do with the Aberbach family. Think Harry Balk might have had a piece of it, before Impact. TONE BigTop was run by their nephew, Johnny Bienstock (President) with Fred Beinstock named as Executive. your the man!!!!
Guest TONY ROUNCE Posted July 17, 2006 Posted July 17, 2006 BigTop was run by their nephew, Johnny Bienstock (President) with Fred Beinstock named as Executive. your the man!!!! One of the reasons why it's totally impossible to legally license most of Big Top's catalogue (with the exception of Del Shannon's catalogue, which is administered through his publisher, and Johnny & the Hurricanes' masters, which Johnny Paris got back), is that the two halves of the Aberbach family do not speak to each other anymore, and thus a licensing agreement can't be reached. Sundazed put out a few Lou Johnson cuts a couple of years back, licensed from Arista, on the fairly flimsy pretext that Big Hill had been distributed by Bell (briefly) in the 1960s, but I think they might have been chancing their arm a bit - it's kind of like if EMI stuck out "Nothing Can Stop Me" now, on the pretext that they distributed Constellation 40 years ago... Big Top reissues, with the catalogue owners' full permission and taken from masatertapes, look like remaining a holy grail for collectors I'm afraid... TONE
Guest rachel Posted July 18, 2006 Posted July 18, 2006 Just been reminded of one by Mace's sales list - Azie Mortimer - Lips.. not quite sure what you'd describe this as but I rather like it
Mace Posted July 18, 2006 Posted July 18, 2006 (edited) got a Minto spare of this for £25 (incl p+p).. ...pm me if interested...1961 R+B instr....Maximilian was Max Crook....(who was with Del Shannon in the Midnight Ramblers)....they were a Detroit group.....(promoted by Ollie Mclaughlin during his Ann Arbor DJing days..)... got a release on UK London too...big Mod revival sound wasnt it Mace? I've also got one for sale but sure some-one reserved tho can't remember who?? It was a massive tune on the mod scene mid to late 80s. The dancefloor used to split in half with lads on one side and girlies on t'other doing a 3 handclap to top right then 3 hand clap to bottom left in rhythm to the beat...then a quick dance in the break before lining back up......sounds mega naff now but it seemed great fun at the time. Got also misspressed as flipside 'Jody'?? on some copies of Del Shannons 'Runaway' U.K. London and also came out on a London L.P. called Memories are made of hits (Vol 3 I think???) Played it at a party full of nutjob scooterboys/skins once in the late 80s and they went mental for it and made me play it 5 times in a row ...oh happy days... Edited July 18, 2006 by Mace
Mace Posted July 18, 2006 Posted July 18, 2006 Just been reminded of one by Mace's sales list - Azie Mortimer - Lips.. not quite sure what you'd describe this as but I rather like it I'd describe it as brilliant and worth every penny....
Mace Posted July 18, 2006 Posted July 18, 2006 Actually, "The Snake" was issued twice on London - once accidentally, as the flip of early pressings of Del Shannon's "Runaway". What should have been on the B-side of that, and what WAS on the B-side of later pressings, was a tune called "Jody". I must have played hundreds of copies of "Jody" down the years, and I've only ever found two that have played "The Snake"... TONE Sorry Tone - only just read this...must read whole thread before posting repetitive replies...
Mace Posted July 18, 2006 Posted July 18, 2006 (edited) Another Lou Johnson, great double sider Wouldn't that be something/You better let him go and Bobbi Smith & Dreamgirls - Now He's Gone. Best release on the label IMO....awesome tune U.K. release of 'Wouldn't that be something' (also great tune) had different flip. Edited July 18, 2006 by Mace
Guest rachel Posted July 18, 2006 Posted July 18, 2006 I'd describe it as brilliant and worth every penny.... Of course you would Does it get plays anywhere? Strikes me as maybe a Popcorn scene record (not that I know much about that)...?
Mace Posted July 18, 2006 Posted July 18, 2006 Of course you would Does it get plays anywhere? Strikes me as maybe a Popcorn scene record (not that I know much about that)...? T'is a popcorn tune - Roger Banks used to spin it. Also came out on U.K. London...a mate of mine has a nice U.K. orange demo....
Mace Posted July 18, 2006 Posted July 18, 2006 I once had a male version of "It'll never be over for me" and I'm sure it was on Bigtop. Can't remember artist but it wasn't a great version by any stretch of the imagination. I sold it to Nige Shaw about 4 years ago, as he was collecting different versions of the track at the time.
Guest Damien Posted July 20, 2006 Posted July 20, 2006 My fave is another Gerri Granger called "Ain't it funny" - Doesn't often turn up sadly
Soul-slider Posted July 22, 2006 Posted July 22, 2006 Been looking at the Big Top lable for some time now getting bits and peices now want to go deeper.... what a fantastic label. Lou Johnson - If i never get to love you Just got this myself, fabulous!
Guest TONY ROUNCE Posted July 25, 2006 Posted July 25, 2006 Just got this myself, fabulous! Can also recommend Gene Pitney's version, on one of his early Musicor albums - I'm pretty sure that it has excatly the same backing track as Lou's.... TONE
Cheapsiderecords Posted July 25, 2006 Posted July 25, 2006 3085 - Bobbie Smith and The Dream Girls - Wanted / Mr. Fine - 1961 Picked this up at the weekend, Wanted is a superb tune, any idea of current value?
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